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Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:19:00 -
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I don't agree with this idea.
It is more realistic to let people stay logged on as long as they want to. My character might be kicking back in his cloaked ship, drinking a beer, monitoring the news, taking a shower, or playing a video game while I'm doing the same thing.
Edit: As long as active modules keep the player status as "active"... Or is considered active while in station... I suppose I wouldn't be unhappy about the change. Daniel Zehn Keeper of Evil Frosty
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:48:00 -
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commander aze wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:1. Posting in a stealth nerf AFK cloaking thread. 2. A simple macro to keep your character "active" is simple enough to do. 1 This is about server stability not AFK cloaking although would cover people logging in and walking away for the day... 2 Macros I believe are against the EULA Quote: CONDUCT A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.
You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Macro's only violate the EULA if they let you gain an advantage. If I use a macro so my trading alt so I'm not logged off (i.e. clicks on the client screen) I gain nothing, and therefore is not a violation. Using the list you quoted above,
Does a macro clicking on the client screen to keep you logged in get you:
More isk? No More SP? No. More in game items? No. More status? No. More rank? No. Character attributes? No.
Conclusion, no EULA violation. Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
commander aze
Sub--Zero Catastrophic Uprising
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:51:00 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:commander aze wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:1. Posting in a stealth nerf AFK cloaking thread. 2. A simple macro to keep your character "active" is simple enough to do. 1 This is about server stability not AFK cloaking although would cover people logging in and walking away for the day... 2 Macros I believe are against the EULA Quote: CONDUCT A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.
You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Macro's only violate the EULA if they let you gain an advantage. If I use a macro so my trading alt so I'm not logged off (i.e. clicks on the client screen) I gain nothing, and therefore is not a violation. Using the list you quoted above, Does a macro clicking on the client screen to keep you logged in get you: More isk? No More SP? No. More in game items? No. More status? No. More rank? No. Character attributes? No. Conclusion, no EULA violation. status it does change then as it would hold an online status by using the macro... just saying... |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
2011
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Posted - 2013.12.17 17:57:00 -
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commander aze wrote: status it does change then as it would hold an online status by using the macro... just saying...
Drinking bird thingy on a macro key that opens and closes the scanner page. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2013.12.17 18:19:00 -
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commander aze wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:commander aze wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:1. Posting in a stealth nerf AFK cloaking thread. 2. A simple macro to keep your character "active" is simple enough to do. 1 This is about server stability not AFK cloaking although would cover people logging in and walking away for the day... 2 Macros I believe are against the EULA Quote: CONDUCT A. Specifically Restricted Conduct
Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game.
You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System. You may not use your own or third-party software to modify any content appearing within the Game environment or change how the Game is played. You may not use your own or any third-party software, macros or other stored rapid keystrokes or other patterns of play that facilitate acquisition of items, currency, objects, character attributes, rank or status at an accelerated rate when compared with ordinary Game play. You may not rewrite or modify the user interface or otherwise manipulate data in any way to acquire items, currency, objects, character attributes or beneficial actions not actually acquired or achieved in the Game.
Macro's only violate the EULA if they let you gain an advantage. If I use a macro so my trading alt so I'm not logged off (i.e. clicks on the client screen) I gain nothing, and therefore is not a violation. Using the list you quoted above, Does a macro clicking on the client screen to keep you logged in get you: More isk? No More SP? No. More in game items? No. More status? No. More rank? No. Character attributes? No. Conclusion, no EULA violation. status it does change then as it would hold an online status by using the macro... just saying...
Depends doesn't it. I'm going AFK for 3 hours, no violation.
Reason: Left as an exercise for the OP.
Upgrading Local to Eliminate All AFK Influence So Local Chat vanished, now what? |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
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Posted - 2013.12.17 19:44:00 -
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so if someone is afk in null sec and in a "safe spot"... we should log them out within 2 hours to take away some other players chance to find them and kill them? -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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commander aze
Sub--Zero Catastrophic Uprising
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Posted - 2013.12.17 21:52:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:so if someone is afk in null sec and in a "safe spot"... we should log them out within 2 hours to take away some other players chance to find them and kill them? This process happens when you disconnect anyways. You might have a timer for recent activity but then you disappear
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Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
461
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:17:00 -
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If orbiting offlined PoS or POCO in WH in an Oracle for several hours will be considered AFK activity and gets you disconnected - i'm against OP's idea.
Also random double clicks in space with random timers is really hard to identify as macro. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks. |
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