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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:04:00 -
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Dear CCP,
When you change missions from scambling more then +1 warp scram and make us loose 500 mill in battleships you need to tell people....more then just hey were changing missions so be warned....
worlds collide level 4 - 521 LP - we have never been warp scrammed by npc's more then +1 until now...thanks alot...
this un-informative stuff is old....
i read your patch notes....faithfully...
what do i have to do now???...load wcs in every low slot we have before leaveing for a mission..
thanks for the complete wipe out...
see ya in vegas...
Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th |
George Petsch
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:08:00 -
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Maybe fitting to take out any scramblers that spawn would help...
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Copine Callmeknau
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:11:00 -
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What else do you want CCP to do? Give you a detailed run through of every rat in a mission and exactly how to beat them?
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With five million sheep in this army I seem to be the only one fit to command
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TuRtLe HeAd
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:11:00 -
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or do it with others or kill the scrammers first ?
Wish I Was going to Vegas !
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: George Petsch Maybe fitting to take out any scramblers that spawn would help...
i was seriously fitted to take out scrammers...but it doesnt help when you have a dozen cruisers and about 6 frigs and 3 bs's on you at 20km at warp in...
we went right after them once we realized we were scremmed [ast +1 with a stab on...
this isnt our first rodeo
Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th |
Heikki
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:15:00 -
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If there was general warning of changed missions, perhaps treat them like new unknown ones; scouting and exploring first, with cheap ships?
Or if feeling lazy, read mission forums and wait till others have explored the changes.
Don't missions get rather boring if they are always the same old stuff, repeative without any challengive changes ever?
-Lasse
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:15:00 -
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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau What else do you want CCP to do? Give you a detailed run through of every rat in a mission and exactly how to beat them?
LOL...no but if npc's are going to start scramming at +2 (or more) then kiss two low slots OR MORE good bye....
Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th |
BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 08/03/2006 09:16:23
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd or do it with others or kill the scrammers first ?
Wish I Was going to Vegas !
this level 4 missons gives two BS's about 30 seconds to kill all webers and scrammer upon warp in or your dead with BS"s tanked HARD with tech II kits...
Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:17:00 -
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missions aren't meant to be a simple playground like that. close orbitting NPC tacklers have always had 2+ scramming as far as i knew, but i've never really tested, because i don't fit stabs. this has also made my setup much more efficient, meaning i don't need the stabs (and i bring friends on missions which will be hard)
you aren't meant to bring a full load of WCS, you're meant to scan and scout. if there are 6 rats who might scramble, you have to know that there is every chance all of them will scram. it happens. live with it
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau What else do you want CCP to do? Give you a detailed run through of every rat in a mission and exactly how to beat them?
LOL...no but if npc's are going to start scramming at +2 (or more) then kiss two low slots OR MORE good bye....
no, just setup to fight, not to run
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd or do it with others or kill the scrammers first ?
Wish I Was going to Vegas !
this level 4 missons gives two BS's about 30 seconds to kill all webers and scrammer upon warp in or your dead with BS"s tanked HARD with tech II kits...
ah, my love of support modules
besdies, you didn't say it was uber 30second ganking. you said a dozen cruisers, 3 BSs and 6frigs. my raven could tank that for much more than 30seconds alone - and take out the frigs and most of the cruisers in the time.
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:21:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki If there was general warning of changed missions, perhaps treat them like new unknown ones; scouting and exploring first, with cheap ships?
Or if feeling lazy, read mission forums and wait till others have explored the changes.
Don't missions get rather boring if they are always the same old stuff, repeative without any challengive changes ever?
-Lasse
oh yeah im so un-bored i lost 400+ mill tonight...
after months of level 4 missions and it was NOT boring...
im sure you all kit up TWO or THREE WCS to go ratting...
Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th |
BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau What else do you want CCP to do? Give you a detailed run through of every rat in a mission and exactly how to beat them?
LOL...no but if npc's are going to start scramming at +2 (or more) then kiss two low slots OR MORE good bye....
no, just setup to fight, not to run
set to fight?? ...uh we were ....raven apoc combo ...we had no intentions of not fighting...and this was NOT our first few level 4 missions...
Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th |
HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 08/03/2006 09:26:45
Originally by: BlackHole Bob LOL...no but if npc's are going to start scramming at +2 (or more) then kiss two low slots OR MORE good bye....
Originally by: HippoKing no, just setup to fight, not to run
set to fight?? ...uh we were ....raven apoc combo ...we had no intentions of not fighting...and this was NOT our first few level 4 missions...
you described that mission as having 3BSs, a dozen cruisers and 6 frigs. thats not too hard tbh. if you had 2 guys without any WCS at all, you really should have won, particularly if you went for raven tanking with apoc cap transferring
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd or do it with others or kill the scrammers first ?
Wish I Was going to Vegas !
this level 4 missons gives two BS's about 30 seconds to kill all webers and scrammer upon warp in or your dead with BS"s tanked HARD with tech II kits...
ah, my love of support modules
besdies, you didn't say it was uber 30second ganking. you said a dozen cruisers, 3 BSs and 6frigs. my raven could tank that for much more than 30seconds alone - and take out the frigs and most of the cruisers in the time.
your raven wouldnt tank this bro...we were out with tech II kits full...your out of your league here...
go warp into Worlds collide level 4 and see if you get out with anything BS and BELOW without two or three wcs...
tell me if your uber raven there survives ok...
Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th |
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Oveur
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob Dear CCP,
When you change missions from scambling more then +1 warp scram and make us loose 500 mill in battleships you need to tell people....more then just hey were changing missions so be warned....
worlds collide level 4 - 521 LP - we have never been warp scrammed by npc's more then +1 until now...thanks alot...
this un-informative stuff is old....
i read your patch notes....faithfully...
what do i have to do now???...load wcs in every low slot we have before leaveing for a mission..
thanks for the complete wipe out...
see ya in vegas...
Well, since we should "eat you", I guess you mean we should cancel that trip of ours?
Senior Producer EVE Online
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jason hill
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:40:00 -
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OWND !!!!!!
"THE HUMAN SHIELD" |
Kipkruide
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:52:00 -
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Don't run agent missions, They're dangerous i tell ya, Dangerouss..... Graaaaaaar
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Der Ewige
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Posted - 2006.03.08 09:55:00 -
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You fit WCS, when you do missions?
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:04:00 -
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In the OP's defence, once I had 4 scrambling frigs on me (could see the graphics), and I could still warp away with just 1 WCS fitted. Now to the OP, that "feature" was prolly a bug. Having 6 frigs, where 2 of them prolly are scramnling, then you got 2 str scrambling on you. Then you do need more WCS. On the other hand, if you fitted more cap relay's and/or extra armor repper, then you might have survived long enough to kill the frigs. Btw, were you counting drones and/or big guns to kill the frigs? I usually fit med size guns for missions, helps kill frigs faster, with a webber.
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mrg29
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:06:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd or do it with others or kill the scrammers first ?
Wish I Was going to Vegas !
this level 4 missons gives two BS's about 30 seconds to kill all webers and scrammer upon warp in or your dead with BS"s tanked HARD with tech II kits...
ah, my love of support modules
besdies, you didn't say it was uber 30second ganking. you said a dozen cruisers, 3 BSs and 6frigs. my raven could tank that for much more than 30seconds alone - and take out the frigs and most of the cruisers in the time.
your raven wouldnt tank this bro...we were out with tech II kits full...your out of your league here...
go warp into Worlds collide level 4 and see if you get out with anything BS and BELOW without two or three wcs...
tell me if your uber raven there survives ok...
i've done the mission solo in a machariel, no wcs , no need to warp out.
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:17:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob Edited by: BlackHole Bob on 08/03/2006 09:16:23
Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd or do it with others or kill the scrammers first ?
Wish I Was going to Vegas !
this level 4 missons gives two BS's about 30 seconds to kill all webers and scrammer upon warp in or your dead with BS"s tanked HARD with tech II kits...
Pfft!
Many of us solo these missions.
Just plan ahead, expect the unexpected.
Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD |
BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: BlackHole Bob Dear CCP,
When you change missions from scambling more then +1 warp scram and make us loose 500 mill in battleships you need to tell people....more then just hey were changing missions so be warned....
worlds collide level 4 - 521 LP - we have never been warp scrammed by npc's more then +1 until now...thanks alot...
this un-informative stuff is old....
i read your patch notes....faithfully...
what do i have to do now???...load wcs in every low slot we have before leaveing for a mission..
thanks for the complete wipe out...
see ya in vegas...
Well, since we should "eat you", I guess you mean we should cancel that trip of ours?
I said I would see you in vegas
no matter what we did or did not do correctly does not matter...
subject closed....
why would you say that....???
I will change the topic to suit this better as to not aggrivate the situation.
Blackhole Bob www.evegathering.com Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006 March 15th and 16th |
Numeram
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:25:00 -
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Try remote repair/shield transfer drones in your apoc's hold. Try oen or two large energy transfers on the apoc, and see how much your raven can suddenly tank.
Then ignore the frigs till last, kill cruisers first since they die fast yet do quite some damage.
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Max Cryers
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:33:00 -
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There are a few setups for this mission that others have listed in the Missions Channel - might be of help to you as from the looks of things some people are doing this mission solo quite successfully.
Have done the Caldari version solo several times in a CNR as have a couple of corpies in their CNR and Raven respectively.
Good luck!
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Oveur
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHole Bob
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: BlackHole Bob Dear CCP,
When you change missions from scambling more then +1 warp scram and make us loose 500 mill in battleships you need to tell people....more then just hey were changing missions so be warned....
worlds collide level 4 - 521 LP - we have never been warp scrammed by npc's more then +1 until now...thanks alot...
this un-informative stuff is old....
i read your patch notes....faithfully...
what do i have to do now???...load wcs in every low slot we have before leaveing for a mission..
thanks for the complete wipe out...
see ya in vegas...
Well, since we should "eat you", I guess you mean we should cancel that trip of ours?
I said I would see you in vegas
no matter what we did or did not do correctly does not matter...
subject closed....
why would you say that....???
I will change the topic to suit this better as to not aggrivate the situation.
I'm flattered you took it seriously, but I was just kidding
Senior Producer EVE Online
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Sherkaner
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur I'm flattered you took it seriously, but I was just kidding
You're such a scary person.
Especially when you show pictures of yourself.
Scary scary
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keepiru
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:41:00 -
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Nobody wants to face oveur before his morning tea's kicked in - empires tremble! :o --------------------
Official ISD cake & bree reserve thief. Barricades a speciality! Last stands on request. |
Wrayeth
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: keepiru Nobody wants to face oveur before his morning tea's kicked in - empires tremble! :o
-Wrayeth
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Kuiper
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Posted - 2006.03.08 10:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kuiper on 08/03/2006 10:52:12
Quote: your raven wouldnt tank this bro...we were out with tech II kits full...your out of your league here...
When you decide to come off your High Horse Give me a Ring and I will show you how to do this mission in a tech one Raven solo did it twice today and here is a screenshot of it if you would like to see it and I have the whole movie of me doing the mission on fraps if you would like it to do some research on how to fly a ship and not die I did the mission solo then I got it back to back and asked a friend if he wanted to come along and see the mission cause I thought the battle stations where cool thats the HAC pilot you see with me in gang. Then someone in local asked if we could help him and my friend left and me and the guy did it again so my bad.. thats three times in one day with no ship loss. If you notice on this mission the Serpentis orbit under 5k and dont last long against large smartbombs :)
My uber tech one Raven Second Time Around With A friend and His HAC
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