[quote=stierkobb]

Also my posts will continue long after i leave hk and am living in some wh retirement home. Like susu.

Pretty good vid I must say, also...who ever said im nutmegs alt. I'm not FYI

Observation. People have been saying 'whs are dying' for far longer than this subforum existed (its exactly the same with any other area of the game btw):
Farmers were supposed to kill whs - they clearly didnt.
Logoff ganking was supposed to kill whs - it clearly didnt.
Dropping activity was supposed to kill whs - go check killboards.
Dropping population was supposed to kill whs - population increased instead (except C6 space).
Massive multi-hole alliances were supposed to kill whs - disintegrated.
Giant coalitions of permanent blues were supposed to kill whs - gone too.
Concentration in massive corporations was supposed to kill whs - instead we have bunch of new groups showing their muscles as some of the old ones ran out of steam.

All we see are just short term ebbs, flows and fads. But people keep screaming about end of the(ir) world over and over again. So instead of impossibly trying to prove the negative, I'd like to see something that actually demonstrates that whs are in fact dying.

These perpetual fears and predictions are simply contradicted by facts.

Concentration in massive corporations - out of steam because too big

Wormhole space has less people who are more centralized

Source?

I never claimed I was using facts, you monkey.

SO im pretty tired, very drunk, and probably will only post this post because of opsec reasons. But I have noticed recently that W-space (as in wormhole nation, not the alliance) starts invasions for some of the silliest of reasons.

Also, Winthorp and his boyband are going on tour. Support the cause and buy tickets.

Put me down for 2 tickets please

It's all very simple, really.

Wormholes don't have locals and therefore people living there aren't battle-hardened by the local trolls. In return it means that wormhole people are very sensitive to trolling and easily upset by words.

So you basically admit that your own assertion is baseless. Nice... but you should have mentioned earlier that you're just pulling crap out of your arse, less time would be wasted.

It's all very simple, really.

Wormholes don't have locals and therefore people living there aren't battle-hardened by the local trolls. In return it means that wormhole people are very sensitive to trolling and easily upset by words.

You must be new around here...

He's obviously never seen local during an invasion...

They tell me to stop all the time, but they can't contain me.

My corp instituted fines for trolling... i owe them 7 billion...

They took my Redcoat, my monocle is next they say...

Makes baseless claims.
Ridicules other baseless claims.

others used words

Unfortunately for you, the burden of proof rests with the one making assertions, not the one disputing them. You are claiming that population is declining and more centralized, so you need to deliver something that demonstrates that. As it stands now, you made a claim and you demand from others to disprove it. As you perhaps know, its not possible to prove a negative on its own.

As far as my observations go, I dare say I am in reasonably good position to assess both centralization and overall population of wspace. As a diplomat for major wh corp, I am in contact with all other large and many small wh groups and follow their developments (like standings changes, alliances reforming, etc) and it gives me good handle on the former, while being wh realtor and watching how both supply and demand for various classes of holes and statics changes gives me at least as good insight into the latter. So I would say my observations arent exactly baseless and are the very reason why I call BS on yours and demand evidence for them.

So "wormhole" space as I know it is dying. New Blood is raising up and thats a good thing sad but good. But this is also leading towards a "stalemate".

We need changes for both sides of the COIN! Otherwise we will be stuck in the same old same old.....Old people need the excitement back and newcomers need the oppertunity....

I have met plenty of w-space diplos, and 90% of them suck. It's unbelievable how careless we are with diplomacy, just because everyone's so pompously superior and afraid of becoming nullsec. As far as I can tell, being a diplo in w-space is claiming trashtalk rights in local for the vast majority of players. And of course your observations aren't baseless, they're based on what you observed. So you claim that, because you're a diplo, your claims are assumed to be true, and my claims are bs and you need evidence for them to even be considered? I'm a diplo too, you know, what does that do for your principles? I'm normally active daily on wormholesales.com. OMG I make billions trading, that has something to do with demand and supply, right? Hell yeah, I'm an expert on random irrelevant things too. So tell me, mister diplo, what is the population of wormhole space? I skipped that lecture at diplo school.

I lol'd.