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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5525
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Posted - 2013.12.20 21:47:00 -
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Oh. Oh.
Maker, but I'm not sure what's more terrible.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5525
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Posted - 2013.12.20 22:43:00 -
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Another interesting development in these affairs.
I'm starting to think that the nations of New Eden believe that international law as a much more serious affair than we do.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2458
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Posted - 2013.12.20 23:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
Now let's see if there's another 'Tragic Yachting Accident'. |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5525
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Posted - 2013.12.20 23:25:00 -
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Oh, no, no. These were senators supporting Blaque's efforts. I'm certain they'll find themselves in a cushy job somewhere, lobbying the Federation Senate for more stringent 'counter-terrorism' laws to stamp down on dangerous thinking.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2458
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Posted - 2013.12.20 23:28:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Oh, no, no. These were senators supporting Blaque's efforts. I'm certain they'll find themselves in a cushy job somewhere, lobbying the Federation Senate for more stringent 'counter-terrorism' laws to stamp down on dangerous thinking.
Perhaps. Then again, you know what happens to loose ends. |
Agiri Falken
State War Academy
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:02:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Oh, no, no. These were senators supporting Blaque's efforts. I'm certain they'll find themselves in a cushy job somewhere, lobbying the Federation Senate for more stringent 'counter-terrorism' laws to stamp down on dangerous thinking. Perhaps. Then again, you know what happens to loose ends.
Loose ends have a habit of getting tied off (read; dissappeared). |
Constantin Baracca
326
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:15:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Oh, no, no. These were senators supporting Blaque's efforts. I'm certain they'll find themselves in a cushy job somewhere, lobbying the Federation Senate for more stringent 'counter-terrorism' laws to stamp down on dangerous thinking.
The article did say he was returning to the Senate Security Council.
Perhaps this is less of a resignation and more of a department transfer?
"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5525
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Posted - 2013.12.21 00:39:00 -
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Point. On rereading, it appears I missed. This is what happens when one skims the news while working on financial reports. I think what this means isn't that Meis resigned as a senator, but stepped down as head of the Senate. Alternatively, he may be moving to an appointed staff position in support of the Senate Security Council, as opposed to his currently elected position.
It's curious that his assistant Jovingeur was dismissed for her involvement in the scandal. While I would expect an assistant to go with her boss, that she was explicitly noted as being dismissed for involvement...
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs |
Nauplius
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.12.21 01:02:00 -
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O Gallente! Why do you slither in darkness, sneaking across other peoples' borders like a criminal in the night? Do you not know that we are to walk in God's holy light, for as the Scriptures say:
"The word of the Lord is pure,
It is a shield for the faithful,
Brought unto men by the Angels,
As a guiding light in the darkness "
- The Scriptures, Prophet Anoyia 8:15
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative
68
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Posted - 2013.12.21 01:06:00 -
[70] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:O Gallente! Why do you slither in darkness, sneaking across other peoples' borders like a criminal in the night? Do you not know that we are to walk in God's holy light, for as the Scriptures say:
"The word of the Lord is pure,
It is a shield for the faithful,
Brought unto men by the Angels,
As a guiding light in the darkness "
- The Scriptures, Prophet Anoyia 8:15
I'm pretty sure that even the Empire has something resembling a covert operations cadre. Nothing here is surprising, though the appointment of Meis to the Security Council is of interest. |
Constantin Baracca
327
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Posted - 2013.12.21 03:15:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Point. On rereading, it appears I missed. This is what happens when one skims the news while working on financial reports. I think what this means isn't that Meis resigned as a senator, but stepped down as head of the Senate. Alternatively, he may be moving to an appointed staff position in support of the Senate Security Council, as opposed to his currently elected position.
It's curious that his assistant Jovingeur was dismissed for her involvement in the scandal. While I would expect an assistant to go with her boss, that she was explicitly noted as being dismissed for involvement...
What was it that was said once, that in a political scandal everyone gets mad and then someone kicks the dog?
"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
18
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Posted - 2013.12.21 14:56:00 -
[72] - Quote
Agiri Falken wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Oh, no, no. These were senators supporting Blaque's efforts. I'm certain they'll find themselves in a cushy job somewhere, lobbying the Federation Senate for more stringent 'counter-terrorism' laws to stamp down on dangerous thinking. Perhaps. Then again, you know what happens to loose ends. Loose ends have a habit of getting tied off (read; dissappeared).
We do not live in a Provist State, even if you would love to believe otherwise. |
Alain Colcer
Reclamation Technologies
87
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Posted - 2013.12.21 18:04:00 -
[73] - Quote
Sometimes i'm not sure if i should choose to feel proud the Senate and the Military have cooperated to ensure the Federation and the culture of its inhabitants is protected from outside threat, or just be worried on how they choose to do it all by breaking inter-stellar law. |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2519
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Posted - 2013.12.21 18:09:00 -
[74] - Quote
Marnian Veroe wrote:Agiri Falken wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Oh, no, no. These were senators supporting Blaque's efforts. I'm certain they'll find themselves in a cushy job somewhere, lobbying the Federation Senate for more stringent 'counter-terrorism' laws to stamp down on dangerous thinking. Perhaps. Then again, you know what happens to loose ends. Loose ends have a habit of getting tied off (read; dissappeared). We do not live in a Provist State, even if you would love to believe otherwise.
Neither do we.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
James Syagrius
Syndicated Ice
628
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:25:00 -
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The plot is an old one and its conclusion... apparent.
The ending to this tale is already written.
GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
-á
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Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
2462
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Posted - 2013.12.21 22:33:00 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote:Agiri Falken wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Oh, no, no. These were senators supporting Blaque's efforts. I'm certain they'll find themselves in a cushy job somewhere, lobbying the Federation Senate for more stringent 'counter-terrorism' laws to stamp down on dangerous thinking. Perhaps. Then again, you know what happens to loose ends. Loose ends have a habit of getting tied off (read; dissappeared). We do not live in a Provist State, even if you would love to believe otherwise.
You have the Black Eagles. The only difference between the two organisations that I can see is that one is of the past and the other very much active, still. |
Agiri Falken
State War Academy
Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:05:00 -
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Marnian Veroe wrote:Agiri Falken wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Oh, no, no. These were senators supporting Blaque's efforts. I'm certain they'll find themselves in a cushy job somewhere, lobbying the Federation Senate for more stringent 'counter-terrorism' laws to stamp down on dangerous thinking. Perhaps. Then again, you know what happens to loose ends. Loose ends have a habit of getting tied off (read; dissappeared). We do not live in a Provist State, even if you would love to believe otherwise.
Heh, you're cute. Never said anything about Provists hon, that's all you. And trust me... Everybody plays the black bag game, even if you'd love to believe otherwise. To their credit, the Fed is usually pretty good at it. This whole thing may very well be arranged. |
Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative
68
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Posted - 2013.12.22 00:12:00 -
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Alain Colcer wrote:Sometimes i'm not sure if i should choose to feel proud the Senate and the Military have cooperated to ensure the Federation and the culture of its inhabitants is protected from outside threat, or just be worried on how they choose to do it all by breaking inter-stellar law.
Maybe a bit of both? It's not something we're unfamiliar with. But, at the least, you can theoretically vote your head of state out of office if enough people are unhappy with him... Right? |
Synthetic Cultist
Church of The Crimson Saviour
265
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Posted - 2013.12.22 10:52:00 -
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The News said the Gallente Federation Government has Collapsed as a Result of these Revelations.
What does this Mean for the Militia Wars ?
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Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
121
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Posted - 2013.12.23 12:25:00 -
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Synthetic Cultist wrote:The News said the Gallente Federation Government has Collapsed as a Result of these Revelations.
What does this Mean for the Militia Wars ?
I believe the term used was 'disarray' and even that is best characterised as journalistic hyperbole. There is always some element of chaos and confusion when the head of an organisation is removed or steps down. There'll be a new head of Senate named in due course, just as there was when Meis took the reigns from Blaque back in YC112.
What is more interesting is that the list of potential suspects for the leak of the report seems to have narrowed quite a bit with Meis' resignation.
There were two other candidates for Senate Head in YC112, both of whom were ideologically opposed to Meis and both of whom have more than just that motive to see him humiliated in public and removed from the position.
Vance Opheron may still be eyeing the top Senate position and if he obtains it one doesn't have to make a huge leap of faith to presume that either Blaque, Roden or both would be quite happy to see him there. Opheron in charge of the Senate, Blaque heading up the special security branch of FIO and Roden running the entire show is perhaps the worst possible scenario for anyone hoping for a cooling of hostilities in Black Rise and Placid and a return to the negotiation table.
Meis was accustomed to making hard decisions from years spent as a diplomat in Amarr and service in the Senate's Foreign Relations Committee, but she was never a great friend of either the current president or his attack dog and was often criticised for being overly willing to negotiate.
The other candidate in YC112 was Suvio Bellaron, an arch-conservative but also one of Mentas Blaque's harshest critics. He co-supported and was rumoured to be a major driving force behind the legislation that eventually saw Blaque unable to hold the dual roles of leader of the Senate and director of SDII / FIO. As a senior and influential member of the Senate it seems probable that Bellaron would have had direct or indirect access to the Highlander report. Any leak that paints the FIO, SDII or Federal military leadership as acting illegally in the name of state security would serve to undermine Blaque and this would certainly work to Bellaron's advantage.
And of course, neither Blaque nor Roden - acting either together or at odds with each other - can be excluded from the list of suspects.
O. Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated. |
Marnian Veroe
National Republican Party
43
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:24:00 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
You have the Black Eagles. The only difference between the two organisations that I can see is that one is of the past and the other very much active, still.
Right. The Black Eagles obviously control the senate as well as the executive, and enforce their military might where they see fit.
Agiri Falken wrote:
Heh, you're cute. Never said anything about Provists hon, that's all you. And trust me... Everybody plays the black bag game, even if you'd love to believe otherwise. To their credit, the Fed is usually pretty good at it. This whole thing may very well be arranged.
As much as the kind of things you refer to happens everywhere, I do not see the point in discussing conspiracy theories anymore than pointing that your fairy tale only tromps the gullible and amateurs for everything sensational. I am not much into tinfoil hats myself, fortunately.
But if you really insist, please show us the proofs behind your story. |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3994
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Posted - 2013.12.23 15:29:00 -
[82] - Quote
Secret police with political agendas don't exist! We live in a free democracy, it isn't allowed! They're just reminding people how awesome freedom and democracy is and that we shouldn't take it for granted...because bad things happen when you do.
Right?
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
275
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Posted - 2013.12.23 22:12:00 -
[83] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
You have the Black Eagles. The only difference between the two organisations that I can see is that one is of the past and the other very much active, still.
Oh really? I expected you to be a better observer.
Blaque and his Black Eagles have never come anywhere close to the level of influence and control over the Federation that Tibus Heth exerted through the CPD. Furthermore, the Black Eagles don't enjoy the slavish public support capsuleers like yourself heaped on the Provists for so long. |
Pieter Tuulinen
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
3010
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Posted - 2013.12.23 22:57:00 -
[84] - Quote
That jibe might hit home harder if I hadn't been one of the first capsuleers to take a public stand against the Provists and the CPD over the New Caldari Prime incident with the civilian freighters.
Again. We overthrew Heth, disbanded the CPD and put all the Provists out of public office.
Since the Eagles are Mentas Blaque's personal black bag and party van squad, and since Blaque is the number two man in the Federation, it's a little naive to say that they don't have far reaching influence in the Federation. If you observe carefully for awhile, you might find that the difference is simply in who they pretend to be subservient to, and by how much. |
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
1313
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Posted - 2013.12.24 00:30:00 -
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In response to Mademoiselle Vero:
Firstly, you should be commended for your stalwart defense against what is no doubt perceived as the pernicious assaults against your lawfully elected government and its chosen Executive representative, President Jacus Roden. I will admit to having been initially disingenuous, for my thoughts were not my own but rather taken almost ad verbatim from what I would describe as the typical diatribe from the Federal liberal media -- indeed, enemies abound in the Federation these days and the flawed bias of the liberalists, the leftists, and the secret socialists form nothing more than unpatriotic thought inimical with the defense of freedom and democracy.
You are correct, the errant thinking of the liberal-left in the Federation is often prone to wild speculation with no basis in factual evidence and often when all else fails in their assaults (some might even call it perilously close to sedition) upon the Federation's Manifest Destiny, its Freedoms, and its Democracy, they can and will resort even to slander, propaganda and wild conspiracy theories. Their lies even cross borders: Even I have been the victim of their erroneous speculation and conspiracy theories constructed out of nothing more than coincidence.
As if the fact that your organization, the Villore Accords, before it was an alliance was an initiative initially proposed by an avowed Social Democrat and Blaqueist before I acquired the stocks in his company; stocks previously held by Ishukone and then Roden Shipyards; that prior to his appointment as CEO of the company he was associated with a mercenary organization known as Privateers along with Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United who would later prove instrumental in the capture of all Federal systems in the initial stages of the war; that such occupation of Federal territory were contributing factors to the resignation of Suoro Foiritain and the election of Jacus Roden; that they all form the basis for one conspiracy or another in the minds of liberals in the Federation, but always failing to recognize the fact that I am nothing more than a humble soldier of the State and Kaalakiota.
What the liberals of the Federation will continue to fail to understand, as they no doubt engage in political fiction devoid of any true fair and balanced opinion, is that Jacus Roden is a man to be admired. I certainly can admire a man, who in his own way, defended the true libertarian ideal just as the Caldari people and the Megacorporations once defended it, and continue to defend it to this day. President Roden's defense of private property rights and free enterprise against the attempts at nationalization by a liberal and socialist in Foiritain. Indeed, if history had taken a different turn and the Caldari had remained in the Federation, I would be more than willing to support the Roden campaign through a Political Action Committee for in Jacus Roden would have been a President willing to defend the Free Markets against the intercessions of Big Government liberals, uphold private property rights, and stimulate economic growth by lowering corporate taxes and reducing the overheads of government regulation in the markets to ensure the natural creation of jobs by businesses no longer stifled by undue red tape.
Indeed, if there had been more true libertarians such as Jacus Roden two hundred years ago instead of liberals and socialists seeking to use the Federal Government to oppress that greatest of freedoms: to participate in a free market without restrictions upon equality and through ones own talents and merits be rewarded with prosperity for ones labours, then there would have been little need to even consider the Caldari secession. The coming weeks and years ahead may very well be what future generations will see as the beginning of a New Order between the State and Federation where the mistakes of the past are rectified and the vagaries of both liberalism and socialism are effectively ameliorated to provide the foundations for true accord and understanding.
To that end, I would suggest you and yours in the FDU continue to fight for the same reasons that President Roden pinned his medal to your chests: Pride. Recognition. Respect. Or perhaps tell yourselves it truly is a just cause for freedom and democracy against an evil foe -- really, whatever you need to achieve that required state of blissful cognitive dissonance.
Personally, I have no further need to perpetuate the particularly predictable and asinine little blame games and partisan propaganda for why should I? I have already accomplished the goals I had set for myself years ago, that now I can simply enjoy watching events unfold as they should and as they must be with calm grace and satisfaction at least for awhile. As for peace, I think it will come in time, just not in the form some might think it should take. |
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
707
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Posted - 2013.12.24 01:13:00 -
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I think it might not be so easy, Veikitamo, as one of those things you come to terms with in the Federation is the wild fluctuation in policy. While today Roden reigns, he could be voted out of office in a breath and a liberal government may be swept in. While that isn't so often the case on the federal level, planet- and system-side governments will sometimes take radical swings in either direction for some demonizing video or a phrase said the wrong way. It's simply the way their space is, and it's what they value more than anything else in the world.
I think it took me some time to realize that the Gallente people, in a way, aren't fighting for a government they support but for the government that the Gallente people elected. That's why plenty of people in those more liberal blocs are still often fighting in space in defense of Roden, even if they hate his guts. I've always assumed people did that simply because they had to; I certainly haven't always agreed with every decision a superior above my head has made. It's simply my task to do as I must. The Gallente, on the other hand, are perfectly happy to hope Roden is ripped in half by a warp shell breach and would still die defending his administration.
So while Roden may more suit your political tastes, he is always just a bad publicity photo with the wrong people away from being exiled from office and replaced by a socialist. Perhaps Gallente government isn't precisely consistent, but it tends to average out in the long term. It is wildly unpredictable, and no sooner have you found some level of federal interference you're comfortable with than it's replaced by something else.
As such, I simply see Roden's administration continuing until the economy contracts, at which point his war expenditures will be compared to the income generated by it. Once that swings into negative numbers, public pressure will either force him to consolidate a peace process or may see him removed from office in favor of someone who will.
Unfortunately for him, war economies cannot survive in perpetuity; the CEWPA warzone isn't magically gaining more resources to fight over and it will eventually cost more to fight there than you'll receive from the systems to pay for it. At that point, Gallente populism being what it is and Caldari economic politics being so applicable, you'll probably see a peace process develop from that.
In the end, I think the fact that Roden is so much like the Caldari (which you very eloquently summarized) is actually going to carry the war farther rather than reduce tensions sooner. Roden and the CEP presently have no reason to stop fighting until there is a practical reason why they should stop. It may be a long way away that they have one, as well. In fact, one of Roden's great political boons is that the CEWPA conflict is limited. Only those few systems which are under contention suffer from the effects of the war. Those outside it don't often have a reason why they should stop fighting if they could possibly one day own just a little bit more Caldari space (at which point, of course they would support a peace process).
The only non-economic reason to stop would be a conscientious humanitarian campaign, one that says fighting is wrong and we could all share. The very thing a liberal bloc would bring to the table if they could possibly manage it. That said, one thing liberal parties often have a problem doing is telling people why they should care about what is happening to people a million AUs away. One of the reasons Roden and your favored parties are so effective is because it's very easy to understand a practical breakdown of costs versus benefits.
For now, that calculation favors war. I'm not sure that a confluence of political ideas will bring peace. We Amarrians have been trying that for countless millenia, and even we haven't gotten it to work completely. You may be right that such things occur concurrently, but it may be that peace tends to force people to confront each others' views and come to some kind of rational arbitrary decision, hence the confluence of ideas. What tends to stop wars is when one side simply runs out of bullets before they run out of targets.
"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
275
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:00:00 -
[87] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:That jibe might hit home harder if I hadn't been one of the first capsuleers to take a public stand against the Provists and the CPD over the New Caldari Prime incident with the civilian freighters.
Again. We overthrew Heth, disbanded the CPD and put all the Provists out of public office.
Since the Eagles are Mentas Blaque's personal black bag and party van squad, and since Blaque is the number two man in the Federation, it's a little naive to say that they don't have far reaching influence in the Federation. If you observe carefully for awhile, you might find that the difference is simply in who they pretend to be subservient to, and by how much.
Yes, eventually after he had done all the damage he possibly could to both the Federation and your own State... Heth was finally overthrown. And that last part I genuinely do admire. However, I balk at letting your claim of being "among the first" pass without comment. Heth's policies had critics within the State from his first assumption of power. Some of it was of the cautiously guarded criticism and biding of time variety Ishukone's loyalists were prone to. Other critics were being placed under arrest, disappeared, or even bombarded from orbit by the Provists while you and others quibbled on the IGS about Corporate Citizenship.
Be cautious in forgetting how long you let that madman abuse his power. It wasn't as if your friends in the Federation or Ishukone didn't tell you where he was leading.
Now, I don't mean to derail this topic from the subject of my own government's debatable misdeeds. There are those in the Federation who would goose-step their way happily to exactly the same destination Heth led the Caldari State. I only hope that my countrymen are less eager to follow than yours were. |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
275
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Posted - 2013.12.24 03:19:00 -
[88] - Quote
Ms Geskaarin and Mr Baracca; both of you provide interesting analysis and perspective. As it relates to shady corporate dealings or higher social and economic predictions, I'll cede those subjects as outside my area of expertise.
I will say that I find nothing wrong with attacking the policies or motivations of Gallente leaders. It is the very nature of our Democracy to be strengthened by open exchange of ideas and honest debate, not weakened by it. Unfortunately many of my countrymen follow the example amusingly put forward by Anslo earlier. A true Gallente patriot knows that questioning one's government, even defying it at times, is crucial to defending a free society. |
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
707
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:28:00 -
[89] - Quote
Rinai Vero wrote:Ms Geskaarin and Mr Baracca; both of you provide interesting analysis and perspective. As it relates to shady corporate dealings or higher social and economic predictions, I'll cede those subjects as outside my area of expertise.
I will say that I find nothing wrong with attacking the policies or motivations of Gallente leaders. It is the very nature of our Democracy to be strengthened by open exchange of ideas and honest debate, not weakened by it. Unfortunately many of my countrymen follow the example amusingly put forward by Anslo earlier. A true Gallente patriot knows that questioning one's government, even defying it at times, is crucial to defending a free society.
Even we know that. We have a blacker spot than any other empire could dream of having in our history of leadership. A cautionary tale about trusting too implicitly in the Emperor's power.
No man's law should ever be allowed to subvert the Scriptures, even the most trusted position in our Empire.
"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"
-Matthew 16:26 |
Ollie Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
122
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Posted - 2013.12.24 06:07:00 -
[90] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:... and since Blaque is the number two man in the Federation, it's a little naive to say that they don't have far reaching influence in the Federation.
Blaque has no official position in either the legislative, executive or judicial branches of the Federation. He's certainly powerful in other ways, but I'm interested to know where the evidence to support your assertion that he is the 'number two man' in the Federation can be found?
O. Rundle
The Synenose Accord
Not indicative of corporate policy unless otherwise stated. |
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