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Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:01:00 -
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A tool that looks through a characters killboard history and pulls up any incident where they were involved in killing another member of their own corp. Sure, I can see a few ways an AWOXer could defeat this tool. But it still seems like it would be helpful.
Does it exist ? |
rswfire
Firesworn
Firesworn Nation
132
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:03:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:A tool that looks through a characters killboard history and pulls up any incident where they were involved in killing another member of their own corp. Sure, I can see a few ways an AWOXer could defeat this tool. But it still seems like it would be helpful.
Does it exist ?
You could just look at their KB. But keep in mind that some corps/alliances have sparring matches and tournaments so you might want to mail their CEO for "false flags" before completely writing them off. (I don't know if a tool has been made specifically but wanted to mention that.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYAz0aWEzpw
http://www.firesworn.com/index.php?/topic/69-about-firesworn-nation/
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Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
210
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:11:00 -
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rswfire wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:A tool that looks through a characters killboard history and pulls up any incident where they were involved in killing another member of their own corp. Sure, I can see a few ways an AWOXer could defeat this tool. But it still seems like it would be helpful.
Does it exist ? You could just look at their KB. But keep in mind that some corps/alliances have sparring matches and tournaments so you might want to mail their CEO for "false flags" before completely writing them off. (I don't know if a tool has been made specifically but wanted to mention that.)
Manually looking over the killboards will be a problem if they have a lot of PvP kills vs another corp. Which is why I'd prefer to have it automated.
As for false positives, I'm aware of them being a risk. Talking to the player about flagged kills should reduce that risk. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1333
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:38:00 -
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It would be hilarious if such a tool existed, and someone who was attacked by an AWOXer but defeated them ended up being accused of AWOXing as a result.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Paranoid Loyd
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
97
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Posted - 2013.12.17 22:52:00 -
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This ^
Also, what is wrong with the tried and true intel tool that is C&P?  |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
371
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Posted - 2013.12.17 23:11:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It would be hilarious if such a tool existed, and someone who was attacked by an AWOXer but defeated them ended up being accused of AWOXing as a result.
The API checker i use already does this.
Funnily enough between the corp tournys and the occaisional killing of fleet member for lols i wouldn't pass my own checks....
here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1335
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:31:00 -
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There's always a way to talk your way out of one or two AWOX kills anyway.
'Yeah I joined this mining corp, went on an op with them, and they started spouting all sorts of anti-Semitic pro-****** (edit: that got censored, but it's the name of an RL tyrant) filth in Vent, so I reshipped into a combat ship and blew up the two worst ones.'
I've never had anyone disbelieve that. The fact that most clueless CEOs believe EVE is full of sociopaths can be used to make them believe the worst of people when that is exactly what you want.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
212
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:42:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It would be hilarious if such a tool existed, and someone who was attacked by an AWOXer but defeated them ended up being accused of AWOXing as a result.
The API checker i use already does this. Funnily enough between the corp tournys and the occaisional killing of fleet member for lols i wouldn't pass my own checks....
If the corp you're trying to join won't believe you on those kills, are you sure they won't be too paranoid for your liking ?
Besides, the date of you or the person you killed leaving the corp is also useful in telling an AWOX from something else. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1341
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Posted - 2013.12.18 02:58:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:Silvetica Dian wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It would be hilarious if such a tool existed, and someone who was attacked by an AWOXer but defeated them ended up being accused of AWOXing as a result.
The API checker i use already does this. Funnily enough between the corp tournys and the occaisional killing of fleet member for lols i wouldn't pass my own checks.... If the corp you're trying to join won't believe you on those kills, are you sure they won't be too paranoid for your liking ? Besides, the date of you or the person you killed leaving the corp is also useful in telling an AWOX from something else.
Yeah there are a fair number of operational security measures that will screen out 99% of AWOXers with very few false positives. I'm actually tempted to offer a service teaching corp recruiters opsec for ISK.
But the single best way to weed us out is to demand new recruits spend two weeks in a holding corp first. Share chat channels, share out-of-client voice communications, but don't give them the right to shoot you until they prove themselves to either be trustworthy or at least to have the patience of a saint.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
IbanezLaney
the church of awesome
Caldari State Capturing
708
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Posted - 2013.12.18 05:11:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It would be hilarious if such a tool existed, and someone who was attacked by an AWOXer but defeated them ended up being accused of AWOXing as a result.
^^ 100%
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me.
Now don't judge or question.
You are broken now, but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.
(Opiate - Tool) |
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
81
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Posted - 2013.12.18 19:04:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:Silvetica Dian wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It would be hilarious if such a tool existed, and someone who was attacked by an AWOXer but defeated them ended up being accused of AWOXing as a result.
The API checker i use already does this. Funnily enough between the corp tournys and the occaisional killing of fleet member for lols i wouldn't pass my own checks.... If the corp you're trying to join won't believe you on those kills, are you sure they won't be too paranoid for your liking ? Besides, the date of you or the person you killed leaving the corp is also useful in telling an AWOX from something else. Yeah there are a fair number of operational security measures that will screen out 99% of AWOXers with very few false positives. I'm actually tempted to offer a service teaching corp recruiters opsec for ISK. But the single best way to weed us out is to demand new recruits spend two weeks in a holding corp first. Share chat channels, share out-of-client voice communications, but don't give them the right to shoot you until they prove themselves to either be trustworthy or at least to have the patience of a saint.
The one time one of my friends went on safari, the ceo gave him a "probationary" period. If this had been out of corp, that would have been great, but they accepted him into the corp right away. Too bad rl got in the way of actually seeing some whales.
I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining".
-á-á-á-á -- Solstice Project's Alt |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3887
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Posted - 2013.12.18 19:13:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:rswfire wrote:Hesod Adee wrote:A tool that looks through a characters killboard history and pulls up any incident where they were involved in killing another member of their own corp. Sure, I can see a few ways an AWOXer could defeat this tool. But it still seems like it would be helpful.
Does it exist ? You could just look at their KB. But keep in mind that some corps/alliances have sparring matches and tournaments so you might want to mail their CEO for "false flags" before completely writing them off. (I don't know if a tool has been made specifically but wanted to mention that.) Manually looking over the killboards will be a problem if they have a lot of PvP kills vs another corp. Which is why I'd prefer to have it automated. As for false positives, I'm aware of them being a risk. Talking to the player about flagged kills should reduce that risk.
Get out, filthy botter.
RIP Scamming; CCP has finally acknowledged that the average gamer is too stupid to avoid being scammed & has decided to protect them from themselves with TOS changes that effectively ban the practice. |
Kristopher Rocancourt
Auto Erotic Decapitation
237
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Posted - 2013.12.18 19:19:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:It would be hilarious if such a tool existed, and someone who was attacked by an AWOXer but defeated them ended up being accused of AWOXing as a result.
My case in point, hence i now admit i am an 'Awoxer' to the retards like Holeysheet1 just to shut them up.
https://zkillboard.com/character/91143676/
https://killalliance.co.uk/tears/tears-holeysheet/ |
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
248
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Posted - 2013.12.18 19:19:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:There's always a way to talk your way out of one or two AWOX kills anyway.
'Yeah I joined this mining corp, went on an op with them, and they started spouting all sorts of anti-Semitic pro-****** (edit: that got censored, but it's the name of an RL tyrant) filth in Vent, so I reshipped into a combat ship and blew up the two worst ones.'
I've never had anyone disbelieve that. The fact that most clueless CEOs believe EVE is full of sociopaths can be used to make them believe the worst of people when that is exactly what you want.
What if it's a corp full of white supremacists or david duke worshipers?
Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity. |
Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
Cannibal Empire
2867
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Posted - 2013.12.18 19:23:00 -
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Vicky Somers wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:There's always a way to talk your way out of one or two AWOX kills anyway.
'Yeah I joined this mining corp, went on an op with them, and they started spouting all sorts of anti-Semitic pro-****** (edit: that got censored, but it's the name of an RL tyrant) filth in Vent, so I reshipped into a combat ship and blew up the two worst ones.'
I've never had anyone disbelieve that. The fact that most clueless CEOs believe EVE is full of sociopaths can be used to make them believe the worst of people when that is exactly what you want. What if it's a corp full of white supremacists or david duke worshipers?
Then killing them is mandatory...
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
248
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Posted - 2013.12.18 19:37:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Vicky Somers wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:There's always a way to talk your way out of one or two AWOX kills anyway.
'Yeah I joined this mining corp, went on an op with them, and they started spouting all sorts of anti-Semitic pro-****** (edit: that got censored, but it's the name of an RL tyrant) filth in Vent, so I reshipped into a combat ship and blew up the two worst ones.'
I've never had anyone disbelieve that. The fact that most clueless CEOs believe EVE is full of sociopaths can be used to make them believe the worst of people when that is exactly what you want. What if it's a corp full of white supremacists or david duke worshipers? Then killing them is mandatory...
I wonder if Brother Nathanael plays EVE...
Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
1346
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Posted - 2013.12.19 09:39:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:
Then killing them is mandatory...
Exactly.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
An enemy is just a friend that you stab in the front. |
Xuixien
Attitude Adjustment Incorporated
708
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Posted - 2013.12.20 14:52:00 -
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It's called an API key dumby.
AUT5M - Active WH Corporation seeking new recruits. Frequent fleets, perfect boosts, material buyback, and more. Battleship/Logi/T3 pilots needed. Inquire within. Full API required. |
Madri
Evequifax
0
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Posted - 2013.12.20 15:07:00 -
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Hesod, while we are not in a position to offer such information right now (having just started) Evequifax corp is providing a service where such things can be reported so that other capsuleers will be able to make informed decisions.
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Jack Lennox
Killing With a Smile
20
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Posted - 2013.12.20 16:38:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote: Which is why I'd prefer to have it automated.
Sounds like bot aspirant behavior. I hope your corp is in full compliance with the CODE.
Do all of your miners have mining permits? If not, I would be more than happy to sell them to you. 10mil/person, and they last for a whole year, pretty good deal I'd say
KWAS is now recruiting!-á Incursion Running, L4 Missions, Orca boosts for mining, and small gang WH PvE/PvP |
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Hesod Adee
Kiwis In Space
214
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Posted - 2013.12.20 17:56:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:It's called an API key dumby.
An API key is pretty useless without tools to read it. Tools that automate the process of converting the data CCP sends into useful information.
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Niclas Solo
Caldari High Prime
The Marmite Collective
22
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Posted - 2013.12.20 19:50:00 -
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Google their name? |
Big Girl Panties
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.12.21 04:29:00 -
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Living in low/null gets rid of awoxers. They are looking for easy kills, so they target mission and mining corps. They don't target lowsec corps for awoxing, because they'd be forced to fight a PvP fit ship. We get spies and hot drops instead, which are more costly, not per incident, but per month. |
Xolve
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
2201
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Posted - 2013.12.21 23:09:00 -
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Hesod Adee wrote:Xuixien wrote:It's called an API key dumby. An API key is pretty useless without tools to read it. Tools that automate the process of converting the data CCP sends into useful information.
I don't think this whole corp recruitment thing is your slice of pie, pumpkin. |
Subject 4927
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2013.12.28 11:04:00 -
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Big Girl Panties wrote:Living in low/null gets rid of awoxers. They are looking for easy kills, so they target mission and mining corps. They don't target lowsec corps for awoxing, because they'd be forced to fight a PvP fit ship.
Which is why it's so easy to join a null corp and provide my services. Null corps/alliances are extremely juicy.
Also, What is Awoxing? I don't know this term.
This thread made me giggle. |
Kajaastas
Death By Design
4
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Posted - 2013.12.29 18:49:00 -
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Yeah there's this thing called eyes. You use them to look at billboards. |
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