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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 03:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 03:59:48 If this is truly an exploit, as I suspect that it is, then I hope CCP fixes it soon.
I too have noticed that you usually always jump into a system at the same point. I can see how this could be easily abused.
I don't think it would be fair to anyone if their ship was destroyed even before the client had finished loading.
I'm not going to participate in the blame game, but I will say that this definitely appears to be a problem and needs to be fixed immediately.
Unfortunatley I cannot file a petition unless this directly happens to me, but when it does you can be sure that I will file an exploit petition.
This is a sad day indeed in the Eve universe.
I hope that one day we will be able to enjoy playing Eve without worrying about exploits being blantantly used by other players.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 05:59:00 -
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I have posted a link here related to this subject that some might find useful in determining whether or not this is an exploit.
What's an Exploit?...and Camping/Lagging "Jump-In" Points
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 06:20:58 Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 06:19:56 Jash I believe you need to get a grip and read these comments posted on this topic a more carefully.
Jash, you should especially read my post "What's An Exploit...and Camping/Lagging "Jump-In Points" where I posted links taken directly from the Eve Support page where it specifically states:
Quote: An exploit is when someone deliberately bypasses the normal game mechanics, by utilizing a bug, a weakness in the system or any other possible loophole in order to personally gain from it, and/or by intentionally use said means to take advantage of other players.
How is what the original poster is describing not an Exploit by CCP's very own definition!?
Jash I believe you have totally missed the point here.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 06:45:00 -
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Jash once again I go back to my original rebuttal which I believe has a very good point that you fail to see.
By CCP's very own definition this situation could be classified as an exploit. That is my point.
Your point is obvious. You do not believe this is an exploit because you say that it's not the players fault if the game mechanics don't work correctly.
To some extent it wouldn't be the player fault if the game mechanics do not work correctly.
If that same player knowningly takes an unfair advantage of a weakness in the current games mechanics then that is an exploit.
Split hairs on the definition of an exploit if you must.
Until CCP clarifys this and determines that this is indeed an exploit no one will know for sure.
I'm just stating my opinion to the best of my ability and backing it up with facts that support my argument. Unlike some unsupported arguements I have seen thus far.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 07:03:00 -
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Edited by: Jake Solnich on 08/09/2003 07:06:42
Quote: Your opinion does not matter and your interpretation of CCP's rules do not matter. Your interpretation is to find them guilty of exploiting. You wrote this thread, and the other you're attempting to dodge with, intentionally slanted to persuade people that read the threads to find them guilty of exploiting.
Jash I have nothing else to say to you except this.
You obviously don't know what your talking about and you obviously didn't even read the original post on this thread.
You say I wrote this thread and if you had read the original post you would see that I did not! Get your facts straight otherwise you only make yourself look like a fool.
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Jake Solnich
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Posted - 2003.09.08 07:25:00 -
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No one said that using drones was an exploit.
There are alot of variables involved in this possible exploit and some of you are looking at this with too narrow a view.
In order to understand this situation you need to look at the whole story and not just pick bits and pieces out of it.
If you just chose to look only at one part of the situation you will never get the whole story.
Perhaps some of the posters here are doing that on purpose knowing that they are wrong and they have nothing else to fall back on.
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