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Nathan Kill	Posted - 2006.03.10 15:45:00 - [1] Now seems to be more difficult to tank a belt ( npcs target the bs while miners do their job). Npcs after a small period change the target (so miners have to run). Did it happen to you ?
Friedrick Psitalon	Posted - 2006.03.10 16:36:00 - [2] Yep, definitely run into this once or twice. Being first through the gate on a deadspace mission no longer insures your role. _______________________________________________ Never fear going out on a limb; it is there that you will find the fruit. - Friedrick, resident noob poster
Karl Mattar	Posted - 2006.03.10 16:46:00 - [3] In a belt, don't tank them, kill them. Let them hang around long enough and they get smart. In missions, it's a lot harder. Just prepare to warp out on the really nasty ones in case you get targetted. The tanks can stay and will get the attention again. Easy enough, if you prepare properly. --- Karl Mattar LT-CMDR, CAIN
Slaveabuser	Posted - 2006.03.10 16:55:00 - [4] Edited by: Slaveabuser on 10/03/2006 16:56:05 Originally by: Nathan Kill Are you flying ibis? whats stoping you from killing the npc's and then killing the new spawn as soon as it respawns? My favourite smilie^^ Edit : or you could come to your senses and stop mining. Yeah that seams to be the solution to your problem. Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD
Paul Castrin	Posted - 2006.03.10 16:58:00 - [5] Originally by: Karl Mattar In a belt, don't tank them, kill them. You have never been .0 mining have you. If you kill a spawn when doing a mining op in .0 the respawn might just jump your miners. A BC/BB rat spawn can poof a barge in very short order and will run a mining Apoc into armor pretty fast too. That is why you tank the spawn and keep it interested. It frees up your miners to do their work. Usually you want to tank CA/BC spawns but now you could tank a solo rat BB spawn just as easy. If they are changing targets now, this is a problem for .0 mining ops which rely on rats to stay focused on the tanking ship.
Slaveabuser	Posted - 2006.03.10 17:00:00 - [6] Originally by: Paul Castrin Originally by: Karl Mattar In a belt, don't tank them, kill them. You have never been .0 mining have you. Is there ANYONE in this game who has not tried 0.0 mining ? Dont whine, adapt. Killing the Minmatars since 22480 AD
Alerce	Posted - 2006.03.10 17:01:00 - [7] Especially since i dont believe we have an AGGRO system in this mmorpg, as we have in some other mmorpgs, where the tank can taunt or or by doing some damage, make enemies switch to them.
Rebell	Posted - 2006.03.10 17:03:00 - [8] I think it makes sense, if a target tanks you for 3 hours, get the hint already, and shoot a target that can't tank.
Paul Castrin	Posted - 2006.03.10 18:07:00 - [9] Originally by: Slaveabuser Originally by: Paul Castrin Originally by: Karl Mattar In a belt, don't tank them, kill them. You have never been .0 mining have you. Is there ANYONE in this game who has not tried 0.0 mining ? Dont whine, adapt. I would hasten to say there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, in EVE that have never mined in zero space. Care to show me facts to prove to me that EVERYONE has? My post was not a whine, please re-read. It was an explanation of why target switching would be a new wrinkle and a problem for those that rely on NPCs to focus on one target. Nowhere did I say "OMGWTFCCPFIXASAPTNX" or say it worried me in the least. Actually I think it's perfectly logical for NPCs to switch targets and will certainly make both mining and ratting much more interesting if, IF, its true and not just a random occurrence vs one player (the OP). Before you flame engage your brain.
Minsc	Posted - 2006.03.10 18:12:00 - [10] erm....or you could just kill everything but a lone frigate and just WTFJAM the thing nonstop. Eventually it will just fly out of range and then you just rejam it when it tries to come back.
Locke DieDrake	Posted - 2006.03.10 18:21:00 - [11] My question is for the OP. Were you shooting at the rats at all, or were you just sitting there chatting while you hold the tank? If you don't shoot at them, or mine, then they eventually ignore you and switch targets. It's been like that since before RMR. Bring a single mining laser and point it at some veldspar if you have to. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2006.03.10 18:21:00 - [12] Good, NPC's are far too stupid when it comes to targeting, if all NPC's started switching targets more often you wouldnÆt have the same people chaining complexes over and over.... - Office Linebacker -
Shittake	Posted - 2006.03.10 18:26:00 - [13] Originally by: Slaveabuser Edited by: Slaveabuser on 10/03/2006 16:56:05 Originally by: Nathan Kill Are you flying ibis? whats stoping you from killing the npc's and then killing the new spawn as soon as it respawns? My favourite smilie^^ Edit : or you could come to your senses and stop mining. Yeah that seams to be the solution to your problem. Nothing stops us from killing whatever comes along BUT if you have ever mined for any period of time in deep 0.0 you know it's easier to have the NPCs agro on a battleship who tanks so that you can bring in the barges and they can mine with relative safety. As recent as 1 week ago I had no problem with the NPCs keeping focussed on my tanker. Once in a rare while you would be at the edge of a grid in a belt or the spawn would move and retarget, but almost never. Unless something has changed with the recent bug fix patch perhaps you just got a crazy spawn, it happens.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.03.10 19:23:00 - [14] ohnoes, they are thinking i must say, the idea that the NPCs shoot the tank forever, never once thinking "ooh look, an easy-to-kill barge" was a bit dumb. you can adapt maybe its to make the t2 barges (with extra tankyness) more useful i think a hulk with gistii boosters would an awesome tank sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
Professor McFly	Posted - 2006.03.10 19:31:00 - [15] If this is true, high-end prices may yet rise even further __________________ Inappropriate link description. --Jorauk

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