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Quendishir
Your Loss Dead Terrorists
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:22:44 -
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ISK IRON BANK wrote:Quendishir wrote:0430 EST: Five Jackpots playing Planetarium, all on the center line. Game immediately rerolled before I could screenshot it. If you want your accusations to hold any weight... please video this and upload to youtube for us all to see. Also please ensure that you are playing the live site and not in offline mode.
Video it? Why would I waste gigs of harddrive space just to video a third-party site, especially when I am normally streaming at the same time? More to the point, any video I did take would need to be edited, and your response would simply be, "It's edited, I can't trust it."
Don't give me this bullshit. I lost out on 22-bil in payouts over a two day period; 22-bil in payouts that I could have enjoyed with my main's alliance, and added a bit of fun to Burn Amarr, Burn Jita, or something similar. Instead I am simply going to spread the word the site is rigged specifically to avoid large payouts when it can.
People play with the auto-spin function active, which means that most of the time, when this happens it is going to be uncatchable. This is especially true when the auto-spin is not set to a set time frame before the next spin occurs: some happen almost immediately (in the cases of "no wins") and some take a bit of time (in the case of a "confirmed win"). In each case, the game registered "no win".
As I said, this wasn't just me mentioning this in the chat, and in fact at least four other people at the time were mentioning it. I know I am telling the truth; I have no reason (yes, there's a monetary aspect, I respect that) to lie. I gave you a specific time frame from one of the cases, the way the slot was set up (9-line), and line that should have gotten me a win. I missed out on (5) payments of $600,000,000 each (3,000,000,000 total) as well as one jackpot worth ~9,000,000,000, and one worth ~10,000,000,000. The frequency of the failures suggest either improper coding for multiple jackpot wins in a given day, or a strict amount the site will pay out with-in a certain timeframe.
That was 22,000,000,000 ISK I could have used to find some alliance ops, or some of my accounts for a bit.
The fact you told me to record it from now on tells me that you have absolutely no way to validate the claim yourself; undoubtedly, you'll probably come back and say, "So I looked over your account at this time and you didn't win anything of substance", or some ****.
Finally, your own site says that you aren't responsible for missed payouts.
TL;DR version: the site apparently has no self-diagnostics going, and appears to have faulty programming affecting it. It's either that or a really decent scam, I don't know which, but I don't think it's valid to play anymore if there's no way for the site to confirm or deny stuff. |
ISK IRON BANK
I Want ISK Corp
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Posted - 2015.06.25 05:10:59 -
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I think you misunderstand.
We have checked and we found no issue's.
I don't have any mails from you with these issues, except here. I have no images / video footage of this and unable to replicate this issue.
Again I am not sure what you want me to do.
My request was not exactly unreasonable for you to validate your claim. |
ISK IRON BANK
I Want ISK Corp
30
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Posted - 2015.06.25 16:30:44 -
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Quendishir wrote:So, a great indication of this being either faulty, or rigged.
Multiple people over the past few hours have been saying in the chat that the game is not paying out larger sums. For instance, running 9-line Ice Miners, the following happened at least three times over the past four hours (the following example happened at around midnight EST 19 June):
J O O O W
O J O J O
O O J O O
J = Jackpot O = Random W = Wild
Mutliple people have said the Wild counts for jackpots. Even if it doesn't, the four Jackpot symbols in a proper line should have netted me $600,000,000 ISK each. I have missed a total of five payouts of $600,000,000 each in the past four hours, and I can guarabntee that is a pure bare minimum as I'm sure that I have missed far more payouts.
This is also happening with increasing frequency, I've noticed, with minigames, where the game doesn't register a proper minigame "win".
It seems to happen in diagonals specifically. Not sure if autospin is a factor.
I actually just read back what you wrote... The above is not a winning line anyway as the wilds do not appear in the last 2 columns. Never have and never will.
The only fault we have currently is sometimes on very rare occasions will the slots re-spin the same action over and over. This will record in your wallet transactions, however the isk is refunded after each spin. This was tested and even 24 hours of re spinning the same "win", the player did not lose nor gain a single isk. We have multiple fail safes to protect IWISK and the player in the event of an issue.
So without any video proof of you claim. I am going to have to say until proven... You are full of BS and only here because you feel wronged that you lost...
I have a single Unicorn Tear here for you to help with your recovery GÖÑ
PS> You wont be the last person to make a claim without any actual proof. PPS> I will eat a flip flop on Twitch live if you can prove me wrong... I am this confident |
RAPHSPID
NRDS Anonyme Echoes of Nowhere
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Posted - 2015.06.26 16:52:39 -
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how is it that every time I play on this web site billion I lose all?
10 b isk yet lost this week !!!!! |
Jackson Fonulique
Extreme Overkill Inc. Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:36:31 -
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So in the most recent Stellar Pool i had over 1200 entries. I took an average of the tickets bought vs the players taking part of the pool. the average was just below 300 tickets per person. That puts me at 900 tickets over the average and yet I didnt even make it into the lowest tier to win anything. I can understand that it is chance but how can you be that high above the average and not win anything at all. Its not the first time its happened either. |
SFR SaFeRa
Alliance of Free Stars
10
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:38:50 -
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Jackson Fonulique wrote:So in the most recent Stellar Pool i had over 1200 entries. I took an average of the tickets bought vs the players taking part of the pool. the average was just below 300 tickets per person. That puts me at 900 tickets over the average and yet I didnt even make it into the lowest tier to win anything. I can understand that it is chance but how can you be that high above the average and not win anything at all. Its not the first time its happened either. Because there are over 400k tickets bro. You said it yourself, probability. |
Jackson Fonulique
Extreme Overkill Inc. Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:41:08 -
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SFR SaFeRa wrote:Jackson Fonulique wrote:So in the most recent Stellar Pool i had over 1200 entries. I took an average of the tickets bought vs the players taking part of the pool. the average was just below 300 tickets per person. That puts me at 900 tickets over the average and yet I didnt even make it into the lowest tier to win anything. I can understand that it is chance but how can you be that high above the average and not win anything at all. Its not the first time its happened either. Because there are over 400k tickets bro. You said it yourself, probability.
Yes but the average of all 400k tickets vs the amount of people in the actual pool was under 300 tickets per person, and no one won in any tier twice from what i see. |
Kast Agnet
The Nexus 7's
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Posted - 2015.07.01 00:54:44 -
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Jackson Fonulique wrote:SFR SaFeRa wrote:Jackson Fonulique wrote:So in the most recent Stellar Pool i had over 1200 entries. I took an average of the tickets bought vs the players taking part of the pool. the average was just below 300 tickets per person. That puts me at 900 tickets over the average and yet I didnt even make it into the lowest tier to win anything. I can understand that it is chance but how can you be that high above the average and not win anything at all. Its not the first time its happened either. Because there are over 400k tickets bro. You said it yourself, probability. Yes but the average of all 400k tickets vs the amount of people in the actual pool was under 300 tickets per person, and no one won in any tier twice from what i see.
Look at leaderboards for the month. You see my name on that Stellar? Think my level doesn't put my chances higher than yours? It's a single ticket that won. 1 in however many thousands. Simple as that. Unlike you I hope the majority of the people who won were of low isk ingame and that they pull it out and it makes a huge difference to their game. Stop being so selfish. Stellar is a bonus graciously provided by your host. He doesn't have to but he chooses to. If you're going to hang your hopes on it play something else. Eve for example. |
Jackson Fonulique
Extreme Overkill Inc. Mordus Angels
0
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Posted - 2015.07.01 12:45:57 -
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Kast Agnet wrote:Jackson Fonulique wrote:SFR SaFeRa wrote:Jackson Fonulique wrote:So in the most recent Stellar Pool i had over 1200 entries. I took an average of the tickets bought vs the players taking part of the pool. the average was just below 300 tickets per person. That puts me at 900 tickets over the average and yet I didnt even make it into the lowest tier to win anything. I can understand that it is chance but how can you be that high above the average and not win anything at all. Its not the first time its happened either. Because there are over 400k tickets bro. You said it yourself, probability. Yes but the average of all 400k tickets vs the amount of people in the actual pool was under 300 tickets per person, and no one won in any tier twice from what i see. Look at leaderboards for the month. You see my name on that Stellar? Think my level doesn't put my chances higher than yours? It's a single ticket that won. 1 in however many thousands. Simple as that. Unlike you I hope the majority of the people who won were of low isk ingame and that they pull it out and it makes a huge difference to their game. Stop being so selfish. Stellar is a bonus graciously provided by your host. He doesn't have to but he chooses to. If you're going to hang your hopes on it play something else. Eve for example.
I'm not being selfish by no means, but if i put a bunch of isk into something it makes relative sense that my chance of winning should be higher than those who put less in. If that's not the case then why put a cap on the amount of entries i can make, and if its based on 1 ticket why have so many entries per level to being with? Asking simple questions here that do deserve legit answers instead of being told to shove off. |
LocO MondO
BusteD ChainS
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Posted - 2015.07.08 05:12:58 -
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Kast Agnet wrote:
Look at leaderboards for the month. You see my name on that Stellar?
http://imgur.com/8Di2rvJ |
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Carl Philipp Clausewitz
Space Knights Templar Jita Holding Inc.
16
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Posted - 2015.07.08 05:18:49 -
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Guys where are the latest infinite Results?!
Or you want to tell me that Mu Err won a Infinite directly after the Stellar and Hit both times T1 ?!
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Carl Philipp Clausewitz
Space Knights Templar Jita Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.08 06:20:47 -
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Guys the Pool winings of Mu Err are statisically impossible.... To win a Stellar and directly after it a Infinite Pool (with around 4,5 Million Ticktes in the pool) is impossible. Thats just LoL.
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Kast Agnet
The Nexus 7's
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Posted - 2015.07.08 07:05:23 -
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That was an infinite dear child and wasn't the Stellar we are talking about. Do try and keep up. |
Kast Agnet
The Nexus 7's
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Posted - 2015.07.08 07:07:26 -
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Carl Philipp Clausewitz wrote:Guys where are the latest infinite Results?!
Or you want to tell me that Mu Err won a Infinite directly after the Stellar and Hit both times T1 ?!
I hate to say it but it does look bad. Mcnuggets wins two limiteds out of 3 which puts the odds in the 100's of thousands against and then this one to follow is really making it look suspect. |
Carl Philipp Clausewitz
Space Knights Templar Jita Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.08 07:16:18 -
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Yes that is very suspect :)
But however :)
Iam sure the Hordes of Banker alts will Join the discussion soon and tell us Everything is Legit and thats gambling and so on.
I played IWI for fun but i dont Support acts that are destroying the game i love.
For me this winnigs look very clear to be RMT.
A few weeks ago a Banker was banned for selling isk about the IWI site.
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Rebel Nibiru
Galifreyen TimeLords
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Posted - 2015.07.08 20:00:48 -
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IWI is a scam site, Rigged, Stay away is all i can suggest to eve players becasue the games are not using a true RNG.
it a real shame CCP lets this happen. They only care if it is RMT. But who cares about players huh.
More times than enouth I see people buy more raffle tickets than the prize is worth just to win it everytime, yeah that makes sense.
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Carl Philipp Clausewitz
Space Knights Templar Jita Holding Inc.
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Posted - 2015.07.09 08:08:14 -
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Rebel Nibiru wrote:IWI is a scam site, Rigged, Stay away is all i can suggest to eve players becasue the games are not using a true RNG.
it a real shame CCP lets this happen. They only care if it is RMT. But who cares about players huh.
More times than enouth I see people buy more raffle tickets than the prize is worth just to win it everytime, yeah that makes sense.
It's seems you lost some isk. Scam or not isnt the question! This GÇ£winningsGÇ¥ look like RMT. Team Security is already on it.
Scam is ok ;) but not RMT!
RMT destroys CCPS income and in the end EVE online.
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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.07.09 09:03:59 -
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I have removed a couple of posts. If you believe RMT is occurring, please create a Support Ticket with the details. We do not allow discussion of RMT on the EVE forums, however.
Quote:22. Posting regarding RMT (Real Money Trading) is prohibited.
Posts discussing, linking to, or advertising RMT, including but not limited to the sale of in game items, assets, currency, characters or game accounts for real life money are strictly prohibited.
32. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. These kinds of threads and posts are detrimental to the wellbeing and spirit of the EVE Online Community, and can create undue panic among forum users, as well as adding to the workload of our moderators.
ISD Decoy
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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I Want ISK
I Want ISK Corp
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Posted - 2015.07.15 09:37:23 -
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Kast Agnet wrote:Carl Philipp Clausewitz wrote:Guys where are the latest infinite Results?!
Or you want to tell me that Mu Err won a Infinite directly after the Stellar and Hit both times T1 ?!
I hate to say it but it does look bad. McChicken Deluxe wins two limiteds out of 3 which puts the odds in the 100's of thousands against and then this one to follow is really making it look suspect.
Neither the infiniite nor stellar pool awe ever rigged in any way. In random there are unpredictable patterns. Mix those unpredictable patterns with patterns like that of users playing more than other users makes for unpredictable patterns but lots of the same winners. Seems like it is a tough to get odd but it does happen. ;)
EVE's only gambling engine IwantISK.com
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Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.15 13:04:37 -
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I Want ISK wrote:Kast Agnet wrote:Carl Philipp Clausewitz wrote:Guys where are the latest infinite Results?!
Or you want to tell me that Mu Err won a Infinite directly after the Stellar and Hit both times T1 ?!
I hate to say it but it does look bad. McChicken Deluxe wins two limiteds out of 3 which puts the odds in the 100's of thousands against and then this one to follow is really making it look suspect. Neither the infiniite nor stellar pool awe ever rigged in any way. In random there are unpredictable patterns. Mix those unpredictable patterns with patterns like that of users playing more than other users makes for unpredictable patterns but lots of the same winners. Seems like it is a tough to get odd but it does happen. ;)
Yep. Let's call it "patterns". |
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Na'Monk
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
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Posted - 2015.07.15 14:54:09 -
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You may want to rethink your interface. I am winning my prizes a full 3 minutes prior to finding out via the interface that I won. But overall a good experience, but the updates are slow. I am sitting on a 50Mb/s pipe so I should not be slow. |
I Want ISK
I Want ISK Corp
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Posted - 2015.07.15 19:23:03 -
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Kast Agnet wrote:Carl Philipp Clausewitz wrote:Guys where are the latest infinite Results?!
Or you want to tell me that Mu Err won a Infinite directly after the Stellar and Hit both times T1 ?!
I hate to say it but it does look bad. McChicken Deluxe wins two limiteds out of 3 which puts the odds in the 100's of thousands against and then this one to follow is really making it look suspect.
Neither the infiniite nor stellar pool awe ever rigged in any way. In random there are unpredictable patterns. Mix those unpredictable patterns with patterns like that of users playing more than other users (Cause they have more ISK) amd you have consistency within a pattern. Seems like it is a tough to get odd but it does happen. ;) Winning the Rat Race Jackpot is 1 in a million which is harder than some of the odds you mention on the stellar.
BTW congrats Crice on the recent 660b Rat Race Jackpot!
EVE's only gambling engine IwantISK.com
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I Want ISK
I Want ISK Corp
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Posted - 2015.07.15 19:35:07 -
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Na'Monk wrote:You may want to rethink your interface. I am winning my prizes a full 3 minutes prior to finding out via the interface that I won. But overall a good experience, but the updates are slow. I am sitting on a 50Mb/s pipe so I should not be slow.
Duplicates that you find within raffles are awarded instantly. We will actually be changing it to award at the end of a raffle instead very soon! Thanks for the feedback!
EVE's only gambling engine IwantISK.com
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Kast Agnet
The Nexus 7's
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Posted - 2015.07.16 06:29:59 -
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I Want ISK wrote: I hate to say it but it does look bad. McChicken Deluxe wins two limiteds out of 3 which puts the odds in the 100's of thousands against and then this one to follow is really making it look suspect.
Neither the infiniite nor stellar pool are ever rigged in any way. In random there are unpredictable patterns. Mix those unpredictable patterns with patterns like that of users playing more than other users (Cause they have more ISK) amd you have consistency within a pattern. Seems like it is a tough to get odd but it does happen. ;) Winning the Rat Race Jackpot is 1 in a million which is harder than some of the odds you mention on the stellar.
BTW congrats Crice on the recent 660b Rat Race Jackpot!
With all due respect Eeps either that's a really crappy way of saying "I don't care and I'm certainly not looking into it!" or you are suffering from acute Apophenia. I'm not a whinger, I'm one of the few who generally roll with freak wins and put it down to gambling so when I look at stats and see two people win 4/6 Stellars with both of them having approximately the same amount of odds as everyone else then maybe it's time to look at the code or worse look at the coder. If you keep looking into patterns in randomness you'll never disappoint yourself because there are too many vague arguments. As for congratulating Crice at the end there, congrats on congratsing one of your highest winners. Again not sure why you would do that other than to incite your smaller players and just because you CAN do something crappy doesn't mean you necessarily SHOULD do something crappy. |
RAPHSPID
NRDS Anonyme Echoes of Nowhere
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Posted - 2015.07.16 10:36:16 -
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crice know normal is a generous donor !!!!
http://iwantisk.com/donations.php
is not the first jackpot crice he already has them more !!! I made her + - 1 year that I play here and never jackpot !!!!! I done my $ no me !!
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Le Chourineur
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.07.17 18:26:11 -
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Same for me.. playing since 1,5 year with 3 characters, won 1% of what I spent, no jackpots, hundreds plex purchased (ccp one of best customers!). I love your site but it looks like I am not the luckiest guy in this world. No complain, no rage, no allegations...all is my fault but i wanted to give my testimony here. Best experience is time. |
Rebel Nibiru
Galifreyen TimeLords
1
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Posted - 2015.07.18 02:16:13 -
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Bunch of scammers, And shame on ccp for letting these crooks do what they do. |
Ahshalon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2015.07.18 05:53:24 -
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i think this pretty much sums it up. https://soundcloud.com/lordjelloiii/gambling |
Svenja Fellskern
HildCo Interplanetar Villore Accords
0
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Posted - 2015.07.21 10:42:51 -
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Kast Agnet wrote:
....when I look at stats and see two people win 4/6 Stellars with both of them having approximately the same amount of odds as everyone else then maybe it's time to look at the code or worse look at the coder.
That is plausible deniability :D Since you believe that what you know is the truth you can swear every oath that to your best knowledge everything is fine, not rigged, not fake and whatnot :)
But on a more serious note, yes, there are different approaches on "randomness" in a computer - and truth be told - its a lie. While I wholeheartedly am happy about every person who wins a stellar, raffle etc. I am most pleased to see people win who don't buy 75% of tickets, but instead hero a raffle.
I very much enjoyed the changes of twitch lately who forbid the raffling of in Game Items, with some people having higher odds than others. So no more "i save up 10000 tickets and bet it on a jump freighter raffle" but everyone gets 1 ticket. I wished there was something in iwantisk, too.
People gambling 50bil everyday sure get more tickets then others playing 5 mil a day, but having that reduced to everyone plaing once a day gets a ticket and only one wold be a cool move ;)
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Ice Virpio
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.07.22 00:18:29 -
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after seeying todays stellar and seeying how 1 person wins 12! tickets , i think it's really time to review that code,
i've played iwantisk, and spend a lot of isk, wonsome here and there, but lost a lot too, that's the game :) , but that stellar is just wrong !
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