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MysticNZ	Posted - 2006.03.12 01:37:00 - [1] Edited by: MysticNZ on 12/03/2006 01:37:23 Help me out. He plays WOW and Guild wars. He does not like eve because of its skill system and the no grinding to get to some certian level. He thinks this game sucks and wont be around in a years time. Now I've explained to the best of my ablility, but I need some of the comunity to shed some light on EVE and why it is so good and why it will keep him entertained for many months. He invests alot of time into these other MMOs and quits after 6 months or so because it offers nothing more after the certian level etc. I tried explaining the whole alliace/00 thing... but he doesn't get it. he doesn't get that skills don't mean everything. He played for about 2 days and quit as he said it was boring. Any writeups or what not would be cool. PS: I do understand he just might not like the game, but I don't think he has given it a fair chance. - You got pwnd by us too :P - Wrangler lol - Imaran
Abbadon	Posted - 2006.03.12 01:40:00 - [2] Edited by: Abbadon on 12/03/2006 01:40:28 Try reverse psychology on him Tell him he would never be able to survive because he's not good enough. Or that the game is far too complex for him and takes real intellect and skill to be a major player:P . Dancers plz. o/ --Jorauk boogies-eris booty bounces - Cortes
Amataras	Posted - 2006.03.12 01:46:00 - [3] You can't force people to like eve. They either do or they don't. ------- The Eve Diplomacy Table
Double TaP	Posted - 2006.03.12 01:46:00 - [4] Originally by: Abbadon Edited by: Abbadon on 12/03/2006 01:40:28 Try reverse psychology on him Tell him he would never be able to survive because he's not good enough. Or that the game is far too complex for him and takes real intellect and skill to be a major player:P lol QFT
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.12 01:47:00 - [5] Show him an awesome video. Like EVE Never Fades. Or Vanguard. Or any of Ugluuk's kickass PvP vids. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Hellspawn666	Posted - 2006.03.12 01:52:00 - [6] Some people just arnt right for eve but saying that my elder brother got me into this game, the first week i thought it was awful and was gonna cancel my subscription mainly because i was fed of doing awful missioning which seemed the only way to make isk 2 years ago as a newbie with no friends, BUT soon as you get into a good corp things start geting so much more fun especially when you skill mwds(eve suddenly seems to much more accessable after mwd's), i would suggest giving him a little leg up but from then on making him work for it. Its bad to give people everything, the most fun i had in eve was the learning a new thing about it everyday nowadays the only kick i really get is the pvp but to be fair i have been playing it out for 2 years and a bit. To get him into it i would suggest if he likes grinding showing him how to npc since thats the same as killing trolls :). Also if he wants to see the pvp get him to download some of the videos in the eve videos section on the forums. GL always more fun playing with siblings :)
Oventoasted	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:02:00 - [7] I also tried to get my brother to quit WoW and play Eve but, it didnt work. i showed him videos of sweet mass aliance battls and vanguard. i showed him PvP and mining with my character. also showed him missions and the rewards from that. thing is he in very invovled in getting his epics with WoW and he likes his friends he made in that game. so im not going to rip him outta his world. but all i want him to do is try the dang trail! he hasnt even played it and he says it dumb and thats what makes me mad. o well little brother what are you going to do..
Sadayiel	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:04:00 - [8] stop triying to convince your brother and understand him. He plays WoW and Guilds wars right. Okay the few ppl that actually likes WoW are short range players an average player will need 1/2 months to be high lvl get a decent gear and found the omg i need to raid the same instance (add random number) to at least get a 5% chance to get a drop that can fit me so if your brother not do intensive play he can stay and enjoy the game, as mine does no harm at all that game moves as fast as their need Guild Wars is like the fantasy version of CS, may sound weird but if you plan to do big things in GW you need to end the game with a combination of all profesions, to be the ubber OMGWTFBBQPLAYER in pvp, then after u get the best it's try to kick an enemy team that most likely got the similar classes and skills than you. A hint go play tekken, DoA or any other fight game, it's not much difference. Or just speak with him and tell him the only truth, in those games, he can't be the thing he wish, because the gm will change him to fit the role they feel, to not be overpowered and to stop other players whine, while in EVE u can do any thing u like and if u find someone "over" you fully know u can be as good as him with the right skills, then only your own ability can change an equal fight into a good fight -------------------Sig----------------------- S.S.E. currently recruiting new players. Convo me or leave an eve-mail. Suicide it's man way to tell God. You can't fire me so I quit.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:04:00 - [9] Originally by: Oventoasted I also tried to get my brother to quit WoW and play Eve but, it didnt work. i showed him videos of sweet mass aliance battls and vanguard. i showed him PvP and mining with my character. also showed him missions and the rewards from that. thing is he in very invovled in getting his epics with WoW and he likes his friends he made in that game. so im not going to rip him outta his world. but all i want him to do is try the dang trail! he hasnt even played it and he says it dumb and thats what makes me mad. o well little brother what are you going to do.. If it dumb, ask him to explain its phenomenally high rating on MMORPG.com. Or just use the old "I play it, so if you call it dumb, you're calling me dumb", and smack him over the head. Or uninstall WoW [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
Survivor X	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:09:00 - [10] Originally by: Dark Shikari Show him an awesome video. Like EVE Never Fades. Or Vanguard. Or any of Ugluuk's kickass PvP vids. Or one of Jamesw's vids. ---------------------------------------

Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:19:00 - [11] Get in a war and make him watch you PvP a little, with the sound turned WAY up. -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Bhuknar Hhallas	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:23:00 - [12] Originally by: MysticNZ Edited by: MysticNZ on 12/03/2006 01:37:23 Help me out. He plays WOW and Guild wars. He does not like eve because of its skill system and the no grinding to get to some certian level. He thinks this game sucks and wont be around in a years time. Now I've explained to the best of my ablility, but I need some of the comunity to shed some light on EVE and why it is so good and why it will keep him entertained for many months. He invests alot of time into these other MMOs and quits after 6 months or so because it offers nothing more after the certian level etc. I tried explaining the whole alliace/00 thing... but he doesn't get it. he doesn't get that skills don't mean everything. He played for about 2 days and quit as he said it was boring. Any writeups or what not would be cool. PS: I do understand he just might not like the game, but I don't think he has given it a fair chance. Everyone is not going to like EVE. I know it may be hard for to accept but it is true.
Masta Killa	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:33:00 - [13] The best eve recruiters are rl friends who can't keep their mouth shut for 2 seconds without mentioning Eve That's how I discovered the game and how the person who got me to play discovered it. --------------------------------------
Benglada	Posted - 2006.03.12 02:59:00 - [14] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Oventoasted I also tried to get my brother to quit WoW and play Eve but, it didnt work. i showed him videos of sweet mass aliance battls and vanguard. i showed him PvP and mining with my character. also showed him missions and the rewards from that. thing is he in very invovled in getting his epics with WoW and he likes his friends he made in that game. so im not going to rip him outta his world. but all i want him to do is try the dang trail! he hasnt even played it and he says it dumb and thats what makes me mad. o well little brother what are you going to do.. If it dumb, ask him to explain its phenomenally high rating on MMORPG.com. Or just use the old "I play it, so if you call it dumb, you're calling me dumb", and smack him over the head. Or uninstall WoW Dark shikari you need to make a "how to make a bllion in two hours" vid. pls :) --------------------------- Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
Raem Civrie	Posted - 2006.03.12 03:34:00 - [15] Have him read this. --- Chairman of the Ice Mining Guild
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.03.12 03:37:00 - [16] Originally by: Raem Civrie Have him read this. QFT. [23] Member: Official Forum Warrior What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
MysticNZ	Posted - 2006.03.12 05:04:00 - [17] His arguments are that it is dumb and slow and requires no skill... I don't think I need to say anymore. - You got pwnd by us too :P - Wrangler lol - Imaran
Halunoto Vankaalen	Posted - 2006.03.12 05:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Amataras You can't force people to like eve. They either do or they don't. qft ----- All for the Good of Many Caldari Navy
MysticNZ	Posted - 2006.03.12 05:40:00 - [19] I'm not trying to force him. I'm trying to make him play it for a month. He won't because of the above, skills, no skill etc which is bs. I think he would like it. A game where you are actually SOMEONE, not some grinding lvl60. - You got pwnd by us too :P - Wrangler lol - Imaran
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.03.12 05:44:00 - [20] I'm lucky, my brother and I got into Eve together during beta and neither of us really needed much persuading. Unfortunately, if yours isn't interested or doesn't like it there's not much you can do to change his mind. As someone who does play Eve with his brother though I can tell you that its a damn good laugh Eve Blacklight Style

Big Muthatrucker	Posted - 2006.03.12 06:17:00 - [21] Just tell your brother if he doesnt stop being a sissy night elf fairy you will go buy yourself a new brother
Cummilla	Posted - 2006.03.12 06:23:00 - [22] Here's what I've found: IF they have an ounce of preference towards sci fi as a genre, then Eve will be something you can sell them on and they will thank you. If they don't have a sci fi bone in their body, you have no chance to convert them.
Tony Fats	Posted - 2006.03.12 08:13:00 - [23] What are you nagging him for, if he dont wanna play then let him play what he wants.
MysticNZ	Posted - 2006.03.12 08:49:00 - [24] Originally by: Tony Fats What are you nagging him for, if he dont wanna play then let him play what he wants. He keeps pestering me to play WoW or something similar. I have played these games and don't like them, so i'm trying to get him to try eve. - You got pwnd by us too :P - Wrangler lol - Imaran
Boonaki	Posted - 2006.03.12 09:03:00 - [25] Brain washing or hook up an explosive device to his hard drive, if wow or guildwars is started, the device goes off. Fear the Ibis of doom.
Merrin Farthing	Posted - 2006.03.12 09:08:00 - [26] If its really important to you get a power of 2 account have him make a char and skill it up for him for a month then have him try it Merrin
Katrana Lifebane	Posted - 2006.03.12 09:47:00 - [27] Edited by: Katrana Lifebane on 12/03/2006 09:48:47 Edited by: Katrana Lifebane on 12/03/2006 09:48:11 Originally by: MysticNZ Originally by: Tony Fats What are you nagging him for, if he dont wanna play then let him play what he wants. He keeps pestering me to play WoW or something similar. I have played these games and don't like them, so i'm trying to get him to try eve. And why don't you play WoW? On a more serious note, it sounds like you guys both have the same story.
JamesTalon	Posted - 2006.03.12 10:52:00 - [28] Here's what I'd do. Take his head, and your choice of blunt object, and start tapping him with it. Keep it up until he agrees to give Eve a chance, and if he doesn't after an hour, just whack him a few times nice and hard until he falls unconcious. I suppose there is also the bomb one, but thats a waste of a perfectly good hard drive. Uninstalling WoW is easier, cheaper, and better for the drives sanity (PS: 6am post FTW) http://caldarisurplus.2myip.net
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.03.12 10:57:00 - [29] Just tell him that all adults play EvE. If he wants to be an adult or a man that drives girls wild and crazy, then he should learn to be a man and play EvE. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Vincent Gaines	Posted - 2006.03.12 11:26:00 - [30] Originally by: Raem Civrie Have him read this. That is the story that got me and our corp into the game.



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