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Shinnen	Posted - 2006.03.12 14:47:00 - [1] Edited by: Shinnen on 12/03/2006 14:47:05 From The missile Guide: I quote (sic) Quote: rockets: very short range, 4,500m without boni Is that really the plural of bonus?! http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=bonuses http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=boni I dont believe so, nevertheless, it's funny! --- A Selfdestruct Proposal My sig is good now?-Shinnen
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.12 14:52:00 - [2] Edited by: Nyphur on 12/03/2006 14:54:21 Yeah, it's a common mistake. The plural of bonus is bonuses. Typically, in latin, plurals that have the ending changed to 'i' are those that end in "ius", not "us". Hence the plural of octopus is octopuses, not octopi as it commonly used. In common english, either is generally acceptable and nobody gives half a **** what you use. I'm very much in favour of personal spellings, though. If I use a word that sounds right, conveys the meaning it should to the target reader but isn't in the dictionary, it's a word and it's the right word to use. Language is about communication, not exactism. There we go, "exactism" isn't a word but you get the meaning from it, right? Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Nullitat Augur	Posted - 2006.03.12 14:52:00 - [3] Edited by: Nullitat Augur on 12/03/2006 14:52:55 the devs like latin (it means another thing I know but meh)
Shinnen	Posted - 2006.03.12 14:54:00 - [4] i just thought it was a lol word... tee hee, boni --- A Selfdestruct Proposal My sig is good now?-Shinnen
Taketa De	Posted - 2006.03.12 16:18:00 - [5] Don't know if it's relevant as I don't know the nationality of the guy who made the guide but in german it would be correct with bonus/boni. --- The Advanced Drone Control Panel.
F'nog	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 12/03/2006 14:54:21 Yeah, it's a common mistake. The plural of bonus is bonuses. Typically, in latin, plurals that have the ending changed to 'i' are those that end in "ius", not "us". Hence the plural of octopus is octopuses, not octopi as it commonly used. In common english, either is generally acceptable and nobody gives half a ** what you use. You need to read up on Latin, methinks. The nominative plural for all second declension -us words is -i, whether they end in -us or -ius. Originally by:** Bl4zer But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
Cetshwayo	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:45:00 - [7] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 12/03/2006 14:54:21 Yeah, it's a common mistake. The plural of bonus is bonuses. Typically, in latin, plurals that have the ending changed to 'i' are those that end in "ius", not "us". Hence the plural of octopus is octopuses, not octopi as it commonly used. In common english, either is generally acceptable and nobody gives half a **** what you use. I'm very much in favour of personal spellings, though. If I use a word that sounds right, conveys the meaning it should to the target reader but isn't in the dictionary, it's a word and it's the right word to use. Language is about communication, not exactism. There we go, "exactism" isn't a word but you get the meaning from it, right? Tell me the plural of 'Fungus' please.
Demitri Klashnikov	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:58:00 - [8] Mushrooms -----------------------------------------------
Asane	Posted - 2006.03.12 19:59:00 - [9] Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. Kinda like calling a house a brick
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.03.12 20:41:00 - [10] Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. Kinda like calling a house a brick I've heard of people refer to a house as "bricks", much like referring to clothing as "threads". -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!

Avon	Posted - 2006.03.12 20:56:00 - [11] Edited by: Avon on 12/03/2006 20:56:38 If you are going to get really pendantic, you would question the generic use of the word 'bonus' anyway. It would assume that you are refering to a masculine article. Anyway, boni is correct, bonuses it more common (because we generally find 'modern' pluralisation more comfortable than the correct latin versions). The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:00:00 - [12] Are we talking classical or medieval latin? They differ in some fundamental respects. ----- Caldari battle chef I was a geek before it was cool
Olenir Theadorvin	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:01:00 - [13] hehe. It's nice to hear of an incorrect plural when someone has tried to hard, as opposed to just being lazy with the english language. The most commonly cunfused plural is of course of the word 'mouse'. The plural 'mice' actually only refers to the living creature. Not a lot of people remember that the correct plural when describing the computer mouse, is, in fact 'mouses' -- Olenir Theadorvin, Director, Cygnus United. Views expressed within the forum do not necessarily represent those of the corporation. They certainly do not represent the views of a sane man
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:03:00 - [14] Originally by: Avon If you are going to get really pendantic, you would question the generic use of the word 'bonus' anyway. It would assume that you are refering to a masculine article. Good point, ships are all feminine... Originally by: Olenir Theadorvin the correct plural when describing the computer mouse, is, in fact 'mouses' I don't think that's true at all. Back that up! -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Slink Grinsdikild	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:03:00 - [15] Originally by: Demitri Klashnikov Mushrooms I wholeheartedly disagree
Nee'kita Frist	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Shinnen tee hee, boni isn't that something that happens at an orgy?
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.12 21:12:00 - [17] Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. Kinda like calling a house a brick Best point of the thread. Bonus in latin is exclusively an adjective. In modern english usage it is often a noun. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
El Berto	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:26:00 - [18] Edited by: El Berto on 12/03/2006 22:28:34 Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 12/03/2006 14:54:21 ... Hence the plural of octopus is octopuses, not octopi as it commonly used. In common english... I take your octopuses and raise you an octopodes; its a derivation of the greek oktpous. (Mark Kermode > Chuck Noris ;) ) Being dyslexic I'ld like to agree about personal spellings, only as long as it actually comunicates the idea but some of my fellow dyslexics can turn words into unreadable convolutions of themselves in a few sentences. If you have more than one bonus then you have bonuses. However, who cares?
dazedandconfused	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. Kinda like calling a house a brick Best point of the thread. Bonus in latin is exclusively an adjective. In modern english usage it is often a noun. pwned
Shinnen	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:35:00 - [20] Originally by: dazedandconfused Originally by: Avon Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. Kinda like calling a house a brick Best point of the thread. Bonus in latin is exclusively an adjective. In modern english usage it is often a noun. pwned Win. Now move this to OOPE. thx --- A Selfdestruct Proposal My sig is good now?-Shinnen

Zac Paris	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:36:00 - [21] Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. What language is that then? English has no ground in Latin. It's like virus, the plural is viruses, not viri. I've never seen "boni" before.
Asane	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Zac Paris Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. What language is that then? English has no ground in Latin. I know I know it's Germanic and from the Indo-European family, however, mind you, we're still using a Latin alphabet so I'd assume Latin has had a fair share of bricks in the house of English..
Zac Paris	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Asane Originally by: Zac Paris Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. What language is that then? English has no ground in Latin. I know I know it's Germanic and from the Indo-European family, however, mind you, we're still using a Latin alphabet so I'd assume Latin has had a fair share of bricks in the house of English.. Of course. English has pretty much stolen words from just about everyone. But it's still Germanic at heart.
Asane	Posted - 2006.03.12 22:52:00 - [24] Originally by: Zac Paris Of course. English has pretty much stolen words from just about everyone. But it's still Germanic at heart. That's what I said.. Anyways, correct pluralform for "bonus" is "bonuses" according to every single dictionary I could find, at home, in school and on the net so...
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.12 23:00:00 - [25] Originally by: Cetshwayo Tell me the plural of 'Fungus' please. Batman! Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Abominog	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:39:00 - [26] the rest of you folks are kidding right? the op was pointing out a funny word,the rest of you are turning it in to a debate of languages.Get the f*** out of the house you spend way to much time in your little dungeon. ahahahahaahahahaahahahaah
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.03.13 00:56:00 - [27] Edited by: Nikolai Nuvolari on 13/03/2006 00:56:10 Originally by: Nyphur Originally by: Cetshwayo Tell me the plural of 'Fungus' please. Batman! No no, it's Batman!, you know that! -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Avon	Posted - 2006.03.13 02:12:00 - [28] Originally by: Abominog the rest of you folks are kidding right? the op was pointing out a funny word,the rest of you are turning it in to a debate of languages.Get the f*** out of the house you spend way to much time in your little dungeon. ahahahahaahahahaahahahaah No, the OP was clearly trying to indicate that CCP were in error (thus the dictionary links). Your post is not only incorrect, it is also offensive. *PS. If you wish to visit my dungeon, please bring extra kittens. I am running out. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Sonorra Baki	Posted - 2006.03.13 12:54:00 - [29] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Good point, ships are all feminine... Not Russian ships. This may not be work safe -Capsicum
Sharcy	Posted - 2006.03.13 13:45:00 - [30] Originally by: Zac Paris Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. What language is that then? English has no ground in Latin. It's like virus, the plural is viruses, not viri. I've never seen "boni" before. That's because English is the most simplistic of languages, hence its popularity as the world's de facto (look! Latin! <--) international language. Just because words like virus have been adopted in English and given an english plural form, doesn't mean that that's what it always was. By the way, here's a nice narative on what the correct plural form of virus might be Granted, bonus doesn't have a plural form in Latin, but I suspect that the term was used tongue-in-cheek by the Devs -- Sonnema is recruiting!

Asane	Posted - 2006.03.13 14:36:00 - [31] Originally by: Abominog the rest of you folks are kidding right? the op was pointing out a funny word,the rest of you are turning it in to a debate of languages.Get the f*** out of the house you spend way to much time in your little dungeon. ahahahahaahahahaahahahaah Seeing the fact that you first of all can't use a correct punctation. And second, have taken a name from Uriah Heep, I wonder if you should spend MORE time in the dungeon instead to balance out the fact that you can't handle a discussion on a level far above "OMGWTFPWNBBQ!!".
spurious signal	Posted - 2006.03.13 14:53:00 - [32] Originally by: Zac Paris Originally by: Asane Am I the only one who didn't miss the fact that we're not speaking latin and that latin is just a ground for our current language.. What language is that then? English has no ground in Latin. It's like virus, the plural is viruses, not viri. I've never seen "boni" before. Language is fluid and changeable. It becomes what is used, not what should be used. In biology the word virii (yes, with 2 i's) is commonly used but in IT the plural viruses is more commonly used. Neither is wrong, neither is exclusive, both are used. However, back to the original point, the word boni is not one I have ever seen or heard used anywhere else. I have always heard/read the plural to be bonuses which would mean that using boni is much less likely to lead to you being understood than if bonuses had been used. Which is the point of language, yes? Understanding

Redundancy	Posted - 2006.03.13 15:00:00 - [33] I blame Hammerhead ;) I don't think there's a need to take everything seriously.

Sharcy	Posted - 2006.03.13 15:45:00 - [34] Originally by: Redundancy I blame Hammerhead ;) Who, of course, will blame boobies Originally by: Redundancy I don't think there's a need to take everything seriously. There, see? Toldya -- Sonnema is recruiting!
Griefer Troll	Posted - 2006.03.13 15:56:00 - [35] Edited by: Griefer Troll on 13/03/2006 15:57:14 Originally by: Abominog the rest of you folks are kidding right? the op was pointing out a funny word,the rest of you are turning it in to a debate of languages.Get the f*** out of the house you spend way to much time in your little dungeon. ahahahahaahahahaahahahaah New best post in thread! The man has a point despite his apparent illiteracy.
Lo3d3R	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:06:00 - [36] boner. Carebear Destruction - Rank (13) - Level 5 -
Lo3d3R	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:08:00 - [37] rockets: very short range, 4,500m without... boner. Carebear Destruction - Rank (13) - Level 5 -
Nafri	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:11:00 - [38] in german you say boni, which sounds cooler anyway
Aminatar	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:21:00 - [39] there were a group of concrete roman senators which called themselves boni(the good men) iirc
Xs 142	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:29:00 - [40] What did that have to do with anything?

Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:42:00 - [41] Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Redundancy I blame Hammerhead ;) Who, of course, will blame boobies Surely you mean Boobi? Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda Rovers Chronicles
Asane	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:46:00 - [42] Originally by: Rover Vitesse Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Redundancy I blame Hammerhead ;) Who, of course, will blame boobies Surely you mean Boobi? Or is it Boobises?
Resetgun	Posted - 2006.03.13 16:49:00 - [43] English is most illogical choice to world language. Even native speakers seem to have problems with spelling and syllabication. However, I must confess that it is beautiful to listen and watch. It is like very illogical and chaotic sexy blonde who is leading world class super enterprise (that is going to bankruptcy any moment).
DeadRow	Posted - 2006.03.13 17:06:00 - [44] Originally by: Shinnen i just thought it was a lol word... tee hee, boni lol same here :/ Originally by: Eris Discordia TAKE COVER, HIDE YOUR SIGNATURE
Swamp Ziro	Posted - 2006.03.13 17:09:00 - [45] Originally by: Rover Vitesse Originally by: Sharcy Originally by: Redundancy I blame Hammerhead ;) Who, of course, will blame boobies Surely you mean Boobi? LMAO, well done!


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