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Ehlena
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Posted - 2006.03.13 11:55:00 -
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Just a quick question about the above mission, I can do it, however the most annoying part of the mission is the named boss "Rachan something". HE has the most annoying tank i have ever seen, My cerberus alone is not able to kill him and it takes me and my husband (in his ishtar) to chase the bugger around the system to kill him.
Any suggestions to kill the creep any quicker, as i dont mind the mission as such, but would like to be able to do it quicker.
thanks
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2006.03.13 12:06:00 -
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The best solution (not joking) is posting on this forum and asking CCP to change it. 
But then again, I have found that the only way to kill him in a timely fassion is to have several BS's and or HAC's pound him till he stops moving.
For me personaly the worst thing about this is that he never has droped a single useful module.
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Cavy Dan
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Posted - 2006.03.13 12:25:00 -
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Kill off all the rest of the force, then re-kit for pure damage. His weakest res is Kinetic. get close, get your DPS up.
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Aurora Tagan
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Posted - 2006.03.13 12:34:00 -
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Yes he has a mean tank, but have you considered getting closer to him, my mega pulse II's rip through him at close range.
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Ehlena
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Posted - 2006.03.13 13:28:00 -
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well for my cerberus, i have found that range is a better option, but i am soon able to use my tech 2 Heavy missile launchers so that should help.
Plus the Ishtar had medium dual rails heavy drones and it just took forever. and the problem is that it is not a challenge (just time consuming).
I have no problem with a "boss" being tough, in fact the new missions have been fun as far as i am concerned as when i mastered them it felt like an achievement. But that boss is just annoying
but maybe i shall get the hubbie to change to blasters
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Greenwing
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Posted - 2006.03.13 14:16:00 -
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Get as close as possible, if you stay at range his defenders will kill most of your missiles.
I know my Raven can't kill him if i stay at range, but if i use an AB to get close he's dead pretty quickly. But you are right he's pretty annoying, and imho should either have an easier tank so it takes less time or he should do more damage so it becomes a challenge.
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lee kemp
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Posted - 2006.03.13 16:23:00 -
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I do this mission in a Cerberus,
the 3 lv's i set-up for tanking once i have killed all ships and sentries apart from the boss (Rachan) i dock refit 4x tec2 bcs's in my lows, i already have a faction 10ab fitted too,
tactic:
fly at the boss spamming scourge missiles and when you are less than 1-3km away from him his defenders cant hit your missiles,
my scourge hit him hard and he dies quite quickly.
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Mike Yagon
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Posted - 2006.03.13 16:39:00 -
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He's called Hoborak Moon in the Minmatar version. :)
Never had much trouble with him except for having to chase him around for hours on end. An afterburner and a nice webber helps very well though. You could try using webber drones perhaps?
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.03.13 16:42:00 -
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As mentioned before, you need to get close if you want to kill him with missiles.
He spews defenders and worse, his defenders kill torps in what appears to be a 1:1 rather than a 3:1 like normal.
He will kill 2 or 3 of your missiles with each volley which really cuts back your DPS.
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Kanae
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Posted - 2006.03.13 17:50:00 -
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Heavy NOS and big guns...
I kill him in a few mins without dmg mods
match thier dmg to your dmg
I would do pure kinetic or try a quick switch to explosive when his shield is down but since he is shield tank and you are having hard time with his tank a switch wouldn't be recommended
Personally I switch my cruise from kinetic to explosive as my guns do a mix of kin/exp to start so they with drones keep his shield down while I switch missles.
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Nocturnal Avenger
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Posted - 2006.03.13 22:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Ehlena
Just a quick question about the above mission, I can do it, however the most annoying part of the mission is the named boss "Rachan something". HE has the most annoying tank i have ever seen, My cerberus alone is not able to kill him and it takes me and my husband (in his ishtar) to chase the bugger around the system to kill him.
Any suggestions to kill the creep any quicker, as i dont mind the mission as such, but would like to be able to do it quicker.
thanks
Increase your dps. My bs + drones kill him in 90 seconds.
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Chenlab Beta
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Posted - 2006.03.14 00:26:00 -
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Hes always mwd in and stayed within 10km for me?
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:18:00 -
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If you want to solo, you have no choice but to increase your DPS. He can be soloed, though the Sansha Version he is called Draben and takes 5mins+ for me to kill solo.
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Hephaesteus
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:56:00 -
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I like to do Vengence in my Eagle.
4x Neutron blasters T2 with antimatter
2x Arbalest heavy missle launchers with scourge
And yes I couldn't help myself put a large Gisti x-type shield booster in mids with a T2 kinetic shield hardener. The rest you'll have to guess 
With this set up it's a doddle. 
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.03.14 09:57:00 -
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Just nos him and he'll loose his ability to tank quickly.
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Lord WarATron
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Posted - 2006.03.14 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Just nos him and he'll loose his ability to tank quickly.
He is immune to NOS. You can get cap from it though, but it does not drain him
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.03.14 16:33:00 -
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Paon Tau from the Mordu's Vengeance is immune to all EW but Nos.
No Web, no jammer, no disruptor, no painter works.
Nos just kills the tanking ability, even if you're only applying one medium on him.
I got multiple reports that the other bosses from the vengeance missions are similar. Maybe that's been changed, but I'd be surprised quite a bit.
Preferred range of Paon is 60km, just in case you're using guns.
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Arakasai
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tachy
Paon Tau from the Mordu's Vengeance is immune to all EW but Nos.
No Web, no jammer, no disruptor, no painter works.
Nos just kills the tanking ability, even if you're only applying one medium on him.
I got multiple reports that the other bosses from the vengeance missions are similar. Maybe that's been changed, but I'd be surprised quite a bit.
Preferred range of Paon is 60km, just in case you're using guns.
As mentioned in the last thread on this topic, Paon Tau seems to be the exception to the norm with respects to Nos. That said, I only have experience with the Gurisita flavor and he is definately not Nossable. Although the energy did come in handy for boosting, it had no effect on his ability to boost.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:31:00 -
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Rachyn Masuna on the Caldari Vengence mission is a tough cookie and for a long time i couldnt kill her, but now i can solo in a raven. You need about 450 kinetic dps at a steady rate to kill her, fireing missiles in a clump doesnt work as well as the window opened when her shield is low is repaired by the next volly, a nice stream will get her in one magazine.
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MakkAnzy
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:49:00 -
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I ripped the level 4 Serp one up in a Deimos, Electon blasters II's and one med nos.
Maybe fit the Ishtar with a rack full of Nos and webber to hold him whislt the Cerb pounds away.
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.03.15 02:58:00 -
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The Caldari version of this mission is hard , i do it in my raven . First 2 lvls are easy , 3rd lvl is the real deal .
- Turrets do Em dmg so if u dotn have an EM hardner on with ur tank u will suffer immense hits from the guns.
- Kill the 2 cruisers then lock the frigs and shoot them and in that case ur cap will probably be suffering so warp out is ok .
- Warp back in kill the turrets first then unload on the rest of the baddies.
- Raycen keeps a constant distance of 30 km i think so if ur in a bs that will be the distance always unless u have an Ab in ur setup or mwd .
- Raycen torps do the most kinetic dmg so 2 kinetic hardners are a must .
My setup is 6 arby cruise and 2 dual 150 mm rails and 4 hardners Xlarge SB T2 and shield boost amp , 2 BCU and 3 pdu T2 . Cruise have no problem pundign him with my cruise skill at lvl 4 plus all other missiles advanced skills at lvl 4 , wrath cruise missiles for the caldari version.
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Sylaan
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Posted - 2006.03.15 08:24:00 -
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When I get this mission and I want to do it solo in my Raven, I usually equip a drone augmentation thingy in high. Rachen orbits at 50km and if you dont have an AB (which I personally consider it an utter waste of med slot in missions in a BS) then you wont be able to get to him. But with the drone thingy, my Vespas can get to him and his tank will give way soon.
Of course, this is solo. When I have my alt, I just put blasters/siege launchers, warp her in, MWD to Rachen and she tears him apart.
Regarding the Cerberus, I think it's a nice ship and can certainly do L4 missions but it just does not have the needed DPS to do most of them efficiently. When you have lots of rats, and lots of BS'es then heavy missiles will simply not cut it, in my opinion. As you just saw.
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