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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:28:00 -
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I'm new to eve (about a week or so) and my buddies and I started a corporation. We have started making ammo and other things that we use alot. I read the player guide for manufacturing and think I understand most of it. The order of things to manufacture would be.
1)buy BP 2)Research BP (Material Research and, errrm the other one... ) 3)Copy BP 4)Manufacture
Now. If that is all wrong someone let me know, or please add to it because it is rather confusing at first.
Here's the real reason for this post. I have been looking at all the laboratories that support Researching and they are ALL full for DAYS. I think the fastest I could obtain a slot was 4 days 23hrs 3 jumps away. Is this normal? Or is there a bunch of new manufacturers having their hand at it?
Can we (my corp) build a laboratory at our home base? How can I avoid waiting 5 days + to research an item?
Thanks in advance
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 17:55:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/03/2006 17:55:35
Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO I'm new to eve (about a week or so) and my buddies and I started a corporation. We have started making ammo and other things that we use alot. I read the player guide for manufacturing and think I understand most of it. The order of things to manufacture would be.
1)buy BP 2)Research BP (Material Research and, errrm the other one... ) 3)Copy BP 4)Manufacture
Now. If that is all wrong someone let me know, or please add to it because it is rather confusing at first.
Here's the real reason for this post. I have been looking at all the laboratories that support Researching and they are ALL full for DAYS. I think the fastest I could obtain a slot was 4 days 23hrs 3 jumps away. Is this normal? Or is there a bunch of new manufacturers having their hand at it?
Can we (my corp) build a laboratory at our home base? How can I avoid waiting 5 days + to research an item?
Thanks in advance
There are ME slots in outlying regions with times down to 1 day or less. But there is quite a research crunch these days, so you will have to wait.
P.S. You can manufacture with the BPO--you don't need to copy it.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
There are ME slots in outlying regions with times down to 1 day or less. But there is quite a research crunch these days, so you will have to wait.
P.S. You can manufacture with the BPO--you don't need to copy it.
So what are the benefits of copying the BP? Can you make more runs, or just multiple runs at the same time?
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Phantom BlueNeutron
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:26:00 -
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So what are the benefits of copying the BP? Can you make more runs, or just multiple runs at the same time?
You can sell the BPC on escrow to make extra isk.
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Kaleeha Zemani
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:29:00 -
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Or keep copies in all your corp office hangars for emergency use.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
Originally by: Dark Shikari
There are ME slots in outlying regions with times down to 1 day or less. But there is quite a research crunch these days, so you will have to wait.
P.S. You can manufacture with the BPO--you don't need to copy it.
So what are the benefits of copying the BP? Can you make more runs, or just multiple runs at the same time?
You can sell it, haul it around without risking the BPO, etc.
Also, with tech 1 BPOs, the BP copies faster than it builds.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.03.14 18:36:00 -
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Thanks guys. Now, about the labs... There is no way to build a laboratory??? I'm sure its expensive as crap, but I don't like going 7 jumps to start a research que of 3 days only to find out I have reached the maximum number of items able to be researched at a time (being ONE, because I don't have the skill). Any way to avoid having to travel so far just to research a bp?
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.03.14 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO Thanks guys. Now, about the labs... There is no way to build a laboratory??? I'm sure its expensive as crap, but I don't like going 7 jumps to start a research que of 3 days only to find out I have reached the maximum number of items able to be researched at a time (being ONE, because I don't have the skill). Any way to avoid having to travel so far just to research a bp?
Thats another question... if anyone can answer it.
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Santiago Cortes

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Posted - 2006.03.14 23:43:00 -
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No you have to rent one or get a POS and have a mobile lab.
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.03.15 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: LUGAL MOP''N''GLO on 15/03/2006 00:45:02
Originally by: Santiago Cortes No you have to rent one or get a POS and have a mobile lab.
POS? That's what I named my Bantam... "Piece of ****" Do you mean... My corporation has to build a station?
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LUGAL MOP'N'GLO
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Posted - 2006.03.15 04:25:00 -
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I get it... Player operated station.... 50 billion ISK later....
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Valkazm
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Posted - 2006.03.15 07:33:00 -
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ehm well pos is not just stations they can be small towers aswell or large ones ..
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Silmenel
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Posted - 2006.03.15 07:40:00 -
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one more thing ... if you put some reserach in the queue, it already counts as a job and you will not be able to install more than your skills allow, although the job hasn't started yet.
and about the research ... as researching a BPO is a one-time-investment (and research times on ammo aren't that long), you should swallow the bitter pill and queue for a slot. Btw, you won't need research slots that often as a BPC lasts pretty long - so no need to build a POS just bec. of research slots 
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Schinoble
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Posted - 2006.03.15 09:30:00 -
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say you wanted to make a PoS just to research and manufacture say cruisers, what would you need.
1. Is there a security constraint on what systems you can build a PoS.
2. how many factories / research facilities can you fit onto a PoS.
3. How much does it cost to upkeep a PoS, is there like a montly payment you have to make.
4. Do PoS's use fuel (i've read somewhere), how much on a monthly basis would it cost to keep a PoS running.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.15 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 15/03/2006 10:21:08
Originally by: LUGAL MOP'N'GLO I get it... Player operated station.... 50 billion ISK later....
POSs cost 100-400 million ISK, not 50 billion.
And they're starbases not stations.
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Vladimir Ilych
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Posted - 2006.03.15 11:38:00 -
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POS = Player owned structure and are priced as above.
An Outpost which does cost 40 billion + is the nearest players can get to owning a station like the ones you dock at in empire.
The Interstellar Starbase Syndicate operate an outpost at KDF-GY that anyone can visit.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.15 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych POS = Player owned structure and are priced as above.
An Outpost which does cost 40 billion + is the nearest players can get to owning a station like the ones you dock at in empire.
Actually more like 28 billion, IIRC.
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Olenir Theadorvin
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Posted - 2006.03.15 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Schinoble 1. Is there a security constraint on what systems you can build a PoS.
Yes and No. You can build a POS freely in any system 0.3 and below IIRC. Anything over that you need a Starbase Charter for the empire which holds soveriegnty in the system. These cost money and there aren't infinite amounts of them.
Quote: 2. how many factories / research facilities can you fit onto a PoS.
Depends on how big the control tower is, and how much other stuff you have attached to it. Like ships, towers only have a certain amount of Powergrid and CPU available. IIRC the only limit to how many of each additional structure is limited only by the Power and CPU.
Quote: 3. How much does it cost to upkeep a PoS, is there like a montly payment you have to make.
Only the cost of your fuel and, if applicable, charters to keep it in higher-sec areas. You may also have to figure costs for ammo etc. if you find yourself defending it 
Quote: 4. Do PoS's use fuel (i've read somewhere), how much on a monthly basis would it cost to keep a PoS running.
Yep. Fuel requirements can be found in the info page for the control tower. At base prices (as found in item database and don't always correspond closely to the market price), a large control tower would cost approximately 350-400k per hour to run.
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