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Chae Psee
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Posted - 2006.03.15 22:04:00 -
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How does one go about getting T2 BPOs? I've searched a bit but couldnt find anything enlightening. Is there a guide somewhere?
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.15 22:06:00 -
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1. Research with research agents (there's a guide in the Missions forum).
2. Buy one with lots of ISK.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.03.16 00:04:00 -
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Is it random what BPO you get? I've never done missions so I don't have a clue about this lottery business. Never been very lucky anyway so I don't have any illusions about getting one even if I done the missions.
Also, if you do missions, Does the type of mission you do reflect the BPO you get? Ie: Ship BPO's for strike missions and mod BPO's for courier etc or is this random as well?
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GC13
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Posted - 2006.03.16 00:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Drizit
Is it random what BPO you get? I've never done missions so I don't have a clue about this lottery business. Never been very lucky anyway so I don't have any illusions about getting one even if I done the missions.
Also, if you do missions, Does the type of mission you do reflect the BPO you get? Ie: Ship BPO's for strike missions and mod BPO's for courier etc or is this random as well?
The only thing you'll be running missions for is to get a better agent. You get good standing, talk to an R&D agent, and sit on your hands until you get a BPO.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.03.16 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Drizit on 16/03/2006 01:11:06
So what's an R&D agent then? Are these associated with certain sectors in a corp or are they specific to certain places?
I'd love to get a T2 Stabs BPO. I would produce thousands and sell them cheap even if it means a loss just to get up the nose of those who don't want them in the game.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2006.03.16 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
1. Research with research agents (there's a guide in the Missions forum).
Originally by: Bl4zer
But, cmon, this is the Eve forums, we don't let facts get in the way of pointless speculation.
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:04:00 -
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Yeah, the whole way of getting T2 BPO's is screwed, to be honest. They should have just put them on the market like T1 BPO's, its ridiculous that they didn't because it keeps prices artificially high by limiting supply.
However, I understand its possible (or will shortly be possible) to get T2 BPC's, though I'm not sure what the mechanics behind this will be.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Yeah, the whole way of getting T2 BPO's is screwed, to be honest. They should have just put them on the market like T1 BPO's, its ridiculous that they didn't because it keeps prices artificially high by limiting supply.
However, I understand its possible (or will shortly be possible) to get T2 BPC's, though I'm not sure what the mechanics behind this will be.
Stop derailing this thread. The system works quite fine, because the entire POINT of the system is to keep prices artificially high by limiting supply. Tech 2 isn't supposed to be like tech 1.
It is possible to get T2 BPCs--you can buy them off escrow. You can make loads of ISK buying and building well-priced ones.
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Silmenel
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:45:00 -
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Edited by: Silmenel on 16/03/2006 10:50:40
nobody seems to read the guides anymore, I will try to give you a quick overview about R&D Agents ...
1. You can find R&D Agents only in some corps - their division is named R&D - just to name one corp: Ishukone (Caldari)
2. They have Level and Quality just like all other agents - so you have to push your standing with this corp in order to be able to use better agents.
3. Every agent has certain fields of research - e.g. Caldari Starship Engineering - look at the info of the agent, you'll see his field(s) and also predictable blueprints (BPOs you can get when doing reserach in this field).
4. When you want to do research with an agent, you have to choose the field you want to reserach - you can only choose one per agent!
5. In addition of the standing you need to use the agent, you also need the skill for the chosen field trained up to the lvl the agent has. For example: you have a lvl3 agent and you want to do caldari starship engineering - you can use this agent only if you have caldari starship engineering trained to lvl3.
6. You are now doing research with the agent - this will be shown in your mission-journal. You can also see the points per day you gain from the agent. Each point is a lot for the lottery. The more points you have, the better the chances you win - but theoretically, only one point is enough to get a BPO.
7. In order to get points from your agent it is NOT necessary to do missions - you can increase your points in doing missions (but only 1 every 24 hours is possible).
8. The points per day depend on the following:
lvl and quality of the agent
your standing towards the corp
your lvl of skill (concerning the chosen field)
missions
9. when you win a BPO, the agent will write you eve mail. you have two options: you can either take the BPO and all research points you have with the agnet are lost or you can leave the BPO with the agent for a while and keep all your points in order to possibly get another one with all those researchpoints.
10. normally, you can only use one agent at a time - there is a skill that allows +1 agent per level: Research Project Management
EDIT: use the link in the next post 
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Silmenel
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Posted - 2006.03.16 10:49:00 -
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well, I think that one explains really EVERYTHING and better than I did 
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:34:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 16/03/2006 11:37:49
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Butter Dog
Yeah, the whole way of getting T2 BPO's is screwed, to be honest. They should have just put them on the market like T1 BPO's, its ridiculous that they didn't because it keeps prices artificially high by limiting supply.
However, I understand its possible (or will shortly be possible) to get T2 BPC's, though I'm not sure what the mechanics behind this will be.
Stop derailing this thread. The system works quite fine, because the entire POINT of the system is to keep prices artificially high by limiting supply. Tech 2 isn't supposed to be like tech 1.
It is possible to get T2 BPCs--you can buy them off escrow. You can make loads of ISK buying and building well-priced ones.
I'm hardly derailing the thread, its about obtaining T2 BPO's is it not?
And yes it is imbalanced and the Dev's have admitted its a problem. The only ones who don't see the problem are the lottery winners - funny, that.
With regard to the BPC's, its not about copying... its about ways of obtaining them through reverse engineering and suchlike.
Its also ridiculous of you to say that the entire POINT of the BPO's is to limit supply and increase prices, thats merely a consequence of the fact that when they were seeded, a few thousand people were online at one time. Now it averages out at 20-25 thousand, with the same number of BPO's serving that population. Get real about this please.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 16/03/2006 11:48:12
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Butter Dog
Yeah, the whole way of getting T2 BPO's is screwed, to be honest. They should have just put them on the market like T1 BPO's, its ridiculous that they didn't because it keeps prices artificially high by limiting supply.
However, I understand its possible (or will shortly be possible) to get T2 BPC's, though I'm not sure what the mechanics behind this will be.
Stop derailing this thread. The system works quite fine, because the entire POINT of the system is to keep prices artificially high by limiting supply. Tech 2 isn't supposed to be like tech 1.
It is possible to get T2 BPCs--you can buy them off escrow. You can make loads of ISK buying and building well-priced ones.
I'm hardly derailing the thread, its about obtaining T2 BPO's is it not?
And yes it is imbalanced and the Dev's have admitted its a problem. The only ones who don't see the problem are the lottery winners - funny, that.
Well I'm not a lottery winner. Funny, that?
The devs have not admitting its imbalanced either--stop lying. They have stated that a small minority of T2 items are in undersupply and thus need more BPOs.
Originally by: Butter Dog
With regard to the BPC's, its not about copying... its about ways of obtaining them through reverse engineering and suchlike.
No, not reverse engineering, but BPCs-for-RPs. I believe a system like this is in the works. It will be made not to flood the market with BPCs, but to raise supply on undersupplied items such as HACs. I also believe more BPOs are being released for HACs.
Originally by: Butter Dog
Its also ridiculous of you to say that the entire POINT of the BPO's is to limit supply and increase prices, thats merely a consequence of the fact that when they were seeded, a few thousand people were online at one time. Now it averages out at 20-25 thousand, with the same number of BPO's serving that population. Get real about this please.
95% of T2 items are over, not undersupplied.
Stop generalizing.
The current research system is by definition the fairest way to hand out BPOs. Selling them on the market, offering them at ISK auctions, or offering them at RP auctions would guarantee that only the rich would have a chance to get them. With the current system EVERYONE has equal chances.
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Horad
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Posted - 2006.03.16 11:51:00 -
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How many times is there a lottery? Is it daily or weekly?
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.03.16 12:47:00 -
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If the economy were truly supply/demand driven they would not limit the number of T2 BPO's in such a bizarre manner.
They should be seeded in exactly the same way as T1 BPO's, and the market left to fight it out.
The current system does not sit comfortably with my definition of a truly 'player driven economy'.
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Silmenel
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Posted - 2006.03.16 14:09:00 -
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come on guys, discuss the topic here and leave this forum to questions from new players
there threads where you can post your opinion, new ideas ... no need to hijack this thread 
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.03.16 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Silmenel
come on guys, discuss the topic here and leave this forum to questions from new players
there threads where you can post your opinion, new ideas ... no need to hijack this thread
The thread isnt hijacked, we've answered his questions and are talking around the topic like grown ups, so stop trolling.
To the OP: the lotteries are not held on specific regular dates (monthly/weekly) but whenever the Devs decide to implement a new T2 ship/module they are then seeded by the research agents.
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Carfax
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Posted - 2006.03.16 14:40:00 -
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With respect to the multi point post earlier
5. Unless things have changed you don't need the research skill any higher than 1 as you take the sum of yours and the agents skills
7. Don't do the missions unless you can handle the important storyline kill missions for that lvl as you still get them every 14 or so r&d missions. I gave up doing missions for the lvl 4 agents as you can lose a fair amount of faction standing failing a lvl 4 storyline important mission.
As to the poster who suggested selling the t2 stabilizers cheap to annoy folks that would be a waste as those with the required skills to use them could probably afford the higher prices anyways
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Silmenel
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Posted - 2006.03.17 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Carfax
With respect to the multi point post earlier
5. Unless things have changed you don't need the research skill any higher than 1 as you take the sum of yours and the agents skills
I also read that in the thread of which I posted the link - it was the first time I have heard of it. It must be true, as many players confirmed that but when I started using agents, my first agent (lvl2) didn't want me bec. I had only skill lvl1 ... so perhaps you can have skill lvl1 but only if your standing is way higher or something like this? (just speculating)
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