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zippster smith	Posted - 2006.03.22 09:28:00 - [61] i see the sunstorm guys have not posted the kills and losses so i thought i would save you a job :) 21/3/06 19hrs eve time till when this has been posted sdx loses 11 capsules 1 caracel 1 armageddon 2 scorpion 1 dominix 1 typhoon 2 maller 4 thorax 1 catalyst 1 executioner frege loses 1 griffen 1 melediction 1 ishkur
Goberth Ludwig	Posted - 2006.03.22 10:27:00 - [62] Originally by: Tiuwaz yes war! and the forum propaganda has already started aswell believe me you'll never look back, its fun ^^ I am glad i dont live in the boring south Well sir you will never never know the small joys of sitting at an asteroid belt smoking pipeweed and listening to the secret songs of the mining drones on veldspar. - Gob (my nubie attempt at a forum sig, bare with me plz :p)
Fred0	Posted - 2006.03.22 10:52:00 - [63] Bad timing for a squabble like this guys... ---
Rajheen Orlox	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:33:00 - [64] and the forum propaganda has already started aswell Errrrr Like shouldnt that read Im-Propa-ganda? hehehehemuwhahahaha
Rajheen Orlox	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:34:00 - [65] and the forum propaganda has already started aswell Errrrr Like shouldnt that read Im-Propa-ganda? hehehehemuwhahahaha
Rajheen Orlox	Posted - 2006.03.22 18:36:00 - [66] Ooops is there an echo in here? :)
Defcon2	Posted - 2006.03.22 22:00:00 - [67] lol Fighting like children on the battlefield Arguing like children on the forums
Gogar Teltaf	Posted - 2006.03.22 22:49:00 - [68] The fighting is fun, but sometimes people have a bigger ego than there skill with a ship. Not pointing any fingures, of course.
Krollji	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:44:00 - [69] Originally by: Gogar Teltaf The fighting is fun, but sometimes people have a bigger ego than there skill with a ship. Krollji sighs Oh, this is so true, Mr. Gogar.. so true. I couldn't agree with you more on what you just said. It's so sad when a deranged leader with such a big ego, as you have for the FREGE Alliance, believes he can dictate what corporations may or may not be in another Alliance. Really sad but I understand there may be a boutique in Jita that bodycollecter can go purchase a hat for it. Krollji frowns... "hmmm.. bc might have already been to that boutique... or not. Leastways he knows where to go now. Originally by: Gogar Teltaf Not pointing any fingures, of course. Aye, Mr. Gogar. That is definitely the safe course of action for you. After all when and if one does point there's one finger pointing one way and the other three are pointing back. Yep, for sure.. that's the safest course of action.
HolyGhost	Posted - 2006.03.23 09:12:00 - [70] No offense, but are you guys stuck on stupid or what? No one is telling you who you can or can't take into your alliance. They are just letting you know that if you choose to take in a corp that is considered an enemy of FREGE you will be losing positive standings with the alliance and will be considered a target. If you choose to condemn your whole alliance for one corp that is fine, but it is your choice none the less. To be quite frank, BC does not stand alone on this decision and has full support from all FREGE alliance members. Bottom line is that you guys need to take responsibilty for the decisions that you have made.

Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.03.23 10:14:00 - [71] id just tell the corp to split into two take their most combat read members and put the rest into an empire setup for industry.
NereSky	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:20:00 - [72] Originally by: HolyGhost No offense, but are you guys stuck on stupid or what? No one is telling you who you can or can't take into your alliance. They are just letting you know that if you choose to take in a corp that is considered an enemy of FREGE you will be losing positive standings with the alliance and will be considered a target. If you choose to condemn your whole alliance for one corp that is fine, but it is your choice none the less. To be quite frank, BC does not stand alone on this decision and has full support from all FREGE alliance members. Bottom line is that you guys need to take responsibilty for the decisions that you have made. Whence some people have left FREGE cause they agree hmmmmm We continue to haul through the pipe the few times u have tried to prevent thats is all, as far as im concerned its business as normal cept that former friends seem blinded by the sun thats obviously shining from a dark place BC knows well. As long as u target SDX pilots all this nonsence will continue, But we still use the pipe and u guys are just a minor inconvienence , life go's on and u dont make any difference.
Brother Agenos	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:39:00 - [73] goddamn that alt.... That was me posting that thing above...
Beautiful Alt	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:39:00 - [74] Originally by: NereSky Whence some people have left FREGE cause they agree hmmmmm We continue to haul through the pipe the few times u have tried to prevent thats is all, as far as im concerned its business as normal cept that former friends seem blinded by the sun thats obviously shining from a dark place BC knows well. As long as u target SDX pilots all this nonsence will continue, But we still use the pipe and u guys are just a minor inconvienence , life go's on and u dont make any difference. that made me laught out loudly... keep it coming, i just love comedy
Khajit Smitty	Posted - 2006.03.23 11:56:00 - [75] Originally by: Babs Johnson I have to wonder why anyone would want to follow a leader who rules through his emotions instead of his integrity. I dont really want to get involved in this forum whoo-haaa, who dunnit,you dunnit bull - but i would just like to point out that some of the greatest leaders of our time (good or bad) ruled using their emotions over and above their integrity !
Dai Kentavros	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:04:00 - [76] Originally by: Khajit Smitty I dont really want to get involved in this forum whoo-haaa, who dunnit,you dunnit bull - but i would just like to point out that some of the greatest leaders of our time (good or bad) ruled using their emotions over and above their integrity ! Can you give some examples? Maybe some supporting evidence, to prove your point? A statement like that proves nothing by itself; it's just an attempt to draw attention from the real issues at hand, which are bodycollecter's unnecessary and unreasonable demands of SunStorm Dominion. If all he truly wanted was to "not be associated with Pilots of the sort SDX is dwelling with," bodycollecter would have simply removed FREGE from the alliance (or possibly just himself) and left the matter there. Instead, he insists on dragging everyone into an unnecessary and unwanted conflict when there are more important matters to deal with. And last, if you truly did not want to get involved, you wouldn't have said anything.
Hornster	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:47:00 - [77] Its a shame to see that in a situation like this, my old comrades are going to war. I myself was a commander in ekliptika and in all my time serving i have always maintained the impression that ekliptika are grreat guys. Furthermore concludes the fact that i disagree with BC's comments and its not like babs to lie. Therefore i believe that in this instance although i do not know all the facts from what i have read it appears that frege have been in the wrong. I speak as a privet citizen not on behalf of ekliptika these are my views Oh and 1 more thing, if what BC sais was true about total frege ownership then why the hell did u aggree to the merger. I mean WTF??? But thats ONLY if its true
M PIquet	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:51:00 - [78] Cut'n'paste of local chat log from 15th March - the day SDX split I believe. Quote: [ 2006.03.15 01:57:35 ] Maxze > o/ [ 2006.03.15 01:57:38 ] M PIquet > o/ [ 2006.03.15 01:58:07 ] Maxze > you part of the Northern Fleet hunting BC? [ 2006.03.15 01:58:18 ] M PIquet > Nah. Just logged on [ 2006.03.15 01:58:31 ] Maxze > k Sunstorm has split [ 2006.03.15 01:58:40 ] M PIquet > Aye. I had aquick read through the forums [ 2006.03.15 01:58:49 ] Maxze > ck1 and some other Elk corps [ 2006.03.15 01:59:23 ] Maxze > are coming south [ 2006.03.15 01:59:23 ] Maxze > and looking for a fight [ 2006.03.15 01:59:29 ] M PIquet > Great. [ 2006.03.15 01:59:34 ] M PIquet > You guys left SDX already? [ 2006.03.15 01:59:39 ] Maxze > yes [ 2006.03.15 01:59:43 ] Maxze > same as Frege [ 2006.03.15 01:59:58 ] M PIquet > I'm not entirely sure what we're doing. [ 2006.03.15 02:00:13 ] M PIquet > I'm pretty sure we wont be staying with the Ekliptika corps [ 2006.03.15 02:00:38 ] M PIquet > If we stay in PB it'll be with FREGE I would think. [ 2006.03.15 02:00:47 ] Maxze > well we like playing with you guys [ 2006.03.15 02:01:04 ] M PIquet > So these guys are chasing Bodycollector? [ 2006.03.15 02:01:13 ] Maxze > that is what they said [ 2006.03.15 02:01:18 ] M PIquet > Jesus. [ 2006.03.15 02:01:24 ] Maxze > someone just got podded in RZC [ 2006.03.15 02:01:38 ] Maxze > We took out a CK1 in RQH [ 2006.03.15 02:01:44 ] M PIquet > This is going to get really nasty, really quickly. [ 2006.03.15 02:01:57 ] Maxze > yep Originally by: Rocko Monkeybone Well the issue of declaring BC kos to us is false. Originally by: NereSky BC has NEVER been declared KOS even now
Babs Johnson	Posted - 2006.03.23 22:05:00 - [79] Originally by: M PIquet Cut'n'paste of local chat log from 15th March - the day SDX split I believe. Quote: [ 2006.03.15 01:57:35 ] Maxze > o/ [ 2006.03.15 01:57:38 ] M PIquet > o/ [ 2006.03.15 01:58:07 ] Maxze > you part of the Northern Fleet hunting BC? [ 2006.03.15 01:58:18 ] M PIquet > Nah. Just logged on [ 2006.03.15 01:58:31 ] Maxze > k Sunstorm has split [ 2006.03.15 01:58:40 ] M PIquet > Aye. I had aquick read through the forums [ 2006.03.15 01:58:49 ] Maxze > ck1 and some other Elk corps [ 2006.03.15 01:59:23 ] Maxze > are coming south [ 2006.03.15 01:59:23 ] Maxze > and looking for a fight [ 2006.03.15 01:59:29 ] M PIquet > Great. [ 2006.03.15 01:59:34 ] M PIquet > You guys left SDX already? [ 2006.03.15 01:59:39 ] Maxze > yes [ 2006.03.15 01:59:43 ] Maxze > same as Frege [ 2006.03.15 01:59:58 ] M PIquet > I'm not entirely sure what we're doing. [ 2006.03.15 02:00:13 ] M PIquet > I'm pretty sure we wont be staying with the Ekliptika corps [ 2006.03.15 02:00:38 ] M PIquet > If we stay in PB it'll be with FREGE I would think. [ 2006.03.15 02:00:47 ] Maxze > well we like playing with you guys [ 2006.03.15 02:01:04 ] M PIquet > So these guys are chasing Bodycollector? [ 2006.03.15 02:01:13 ] Maxze > that is what they said [ 2006.03.15 02:01:18 ] M PIquet > Jesus. [ 2006.03.15 02:01:24 ] Maxze > someone just got podded in RZC [ 2006.03.15 02:01:38 ] Maxze > We took out a CK1 in RQH [ 2006.03.15 02:01:44 ] M PIquet > This is going to get really nasty, really quickly. [ 2006.03.15 02:01:57 ] Maxze > yep Originally by: Rocko Monkeybone Well the issue of declaring BC kos to us is false. Originally by: NereSky BC has NEVER been declared KOS even now Two FREGE members who were never in any of the command channels I was in, talking about what they might have heard someone else say. Hearsay within hearsay. Hardly the horse's mouth.
Kantide	Posted - 2006.03.24 01:24:00 - [80] People need to quit posting in this thread. I'm not sure the point that the OP was trying to get across, but nothing up to this point has gotten anyone any closer to solving whatever issue was brought up here. Quit flaming, quit bragging, quit acting like your subjective viewpoint should be the final word. Honestly. stfu.

Clain Matta	Posted - 2006.03.24 18:23:00 - [81] Babs, I do not believe you should be posting in favour of one side...as to maintain ISS neutrality. Clain Matta
FlyinFish Shriker	Posted - 2006.03.31 19:43:00 - [82] former FREGE here, but I'm not taking on a side What I can see from here, is that there are some miscommunication during the merger, be it pre-merger between FREGE and EKP leaders, between EKP commanders, or post-merger between BC and ex-EKP commanders. But is that important to find out? As common knowledge, when mis-communication happens, there is no single party should be responsible, as the (mis)communication is two ways. I don't see why such argument(on who should be responsible) should exist at all. Now FREGE and EKP both want war, so there is war.(sorry I read too much bible recently). ------------------------------------------- "Death is just the beginning..."
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.03.31 21:49:00 - [83] Lol, you FREGE guys have come a long way. ~From the creator of ActiveX and Sobeseki Pawi: The Final Main :p C.E.N.S.U.S. Arrays - The key to Covert 0.0
Robert Dobbs	Posted - 2006.04.02 08:34:00 - [84] Edited by: Robert Dobbs on 02/04/2006 08:35:04 Shortly before the merger, Pilots of Honour were (i.e - I was) at war with Frege and Ekliptika. To be perfectly honest, it was observed by every member of my corp that FREGE simply used EKP (who fought and died with honour) as a meat shield - while they carried on NPCing in Pure Blind. In short, I am not suprised that this merger fell through, and Ekliptika are better off for not allowing it. I have much respect for Ekliptika, and it is my firm belief that they have a greater chance of becoming a true power than FREGE - if they stand alone and purge the space of those who infect it. (This post is completely disassociated with my current corp/alliance and comes from my previous experiences with Frege/EKP whilst in Pilots of Honour.) ~Dobbs.
zacuis	Posted - 2006.04.02 11:48:00 - [85] why didnt you guys come up to pureblind and fight us then ? that war sucked ass you just sat in osmeden (placid) for a week. we live in pureblind if you dec us then come fight us.
Robert Dobbs	Posted - 2006.04.02 16:40:00 - [86] Originally by: zacuis why didnt you guys come up to pureblind and fight us then ? that war sucked ass you just sat in osmeden (placid) for a week. we live in pureblind if you dec us then come fight us. We didn't have to. While you guys sat earning $ in RQH, your "friends" in EKP were forming up fleets to fight us.
insuperable	Posted - 2006.04.02 17:29:00 - [87] Originally by: Robert Dobbs Originally by: zacuis why didnt you guys come up to pureblind and fight us then ? that war sucked ass you just sat in osmeden (placid) for a week. we live in pureblind if you dec us then come fight us. We didn't have to. While you guys sat earning $ in RQH, your "friends" in EKP were forming up fleets to fight us. Agreed, glancing out our old killboard and fraps it would seem that OPUS/EKP participated most and actually fought, mainly on the Orvolle <-> Mant pipe. Whilst Frege sat rather safely in RQH-. I also recall EKP standing by you during our first campaign vs Frege. When Frege surrendered and our focus turned to EKP, Frege just stood by and watched. Imo this war will boil down to whoever can grab the most allies in pure blind to cut off shipping routes.
Testicular Testes	Posted - 2006.04.06 18:00:00 - [88] Originally by: insuperable Imo this war will be largely ignored because both sides will be told to **** themselves and shoot BoB/ASCN/5/FE. Fixed!
Antuirc Halcyon	Posted - 2006.04.07 00:50:00 - [89] Originally by: Testicular Testes Originally by: insuperable Imo this war will be largely ignored because both sides will be told to **** themselves and shoot BoB/ASCN/5/FE. Fixed! Well this is half true. The EKP Admirals and Government directed all combat pilots to go to the North of PB and engage BoB/ASCN/5/FE. For those that fought in those gangs, I am sure you saw EKP pilots around. Frege meanwhile was more concerned with stopping us from coming up to the North to fight. There were numerous bubbles put on the Mantenault gate in RQH to prevent us from engaging the true enemies of the North. Not only did this prevent most EKP pilots from coming up, it also led to the delay of other Alliances such as OPUS, Razor, and GAIA from making fast use of the gate. I do not mean to imply they were shot at, but precious time was spent moving out of the bubble before they could continue on. I have seen a lot of chat from alliances friendly to EKP that we should try to bury the hatchet and come up and fight. We were there. I challenge anyone to bring me proof that any Frege pilots in the area ganged with and helped defend Dek space and Northern PB. I will state as a fact, and can get copies of eve-mails to support, that no less than three ceasefires were agreed to and broken by Frege. The last resulting in the loss of one of my own ships, but they missed my pod. Those that have fought alongside EKP know us to be good frineds and allies. While we tried to work out a peaceful resolution, the leadership of Frege would not be sensible. Therefore as a free and soverign alliance we are now fully concentrating on them. Many of our pilots have been operating out of X-70 to aid in the attack on the South. With the sudden vacume left by Iron, we are now going to turn our attention at opening up our supply routes through Frege claimed space. Once this goal is accomplished, we will rejoin our frineds and allies in the attack on the Southern Alliances. Unless stated otherwise, the above post is my own view, and does not necessarily represent my Corporation or Alliance.
Lag Fest	Posted - 2006.04.07 16:58:00 - [90] LOLZ.. not like u'd jump in and fight us anyways.. _______________________________________ Keepint it BNC-style.. Be Afraid, be very afraid...



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