EVE Search - Burning down the hive ship and fitting required?

Check My IP Information

All Channels

EVE General Discussion

Burning down the hive ship and fitting required?

» Click here to find additional results for this topic using Google

Monitor this thread via RSS [?]

Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
Adela Talvanen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 93	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:47:00 - [1] - Quote Just had my Merlin which I was quite fond of blown up on the second part of the mission. Before I go back, any recommendations as to what ship [and fitting] should I purchase? Should I go for over kill or just up grade to a Cruiser or Destroyer, as a Battleship is a bit excessive to finish off some drones?
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 8116	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:49:00 - [2] - Quote Cruiser is recommended for those with less experience and skills, although a destroyer is also capable of completing the entire epic arc (running it on a fairly new character I was able to complete all of it in a Cormorant, my second time overall). My EVE Videos
Kryptik Kai Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 4035	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:49:00 - [3] - Quote any range fit destroyer will make the SoE arc a cakewalk "Shiny.-á Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb
Adela Talvanen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 93	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:54:00 - [4] - Quote Right, thanks for the tips. I'll see what the prices are for both types.
Angelica Dreamstar Epic Boo Bees 54	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:07:00 - [5] - Quote Stick with smaller ships. They help you actually gain experience. If you "upgrade" you'll just make your life easier without actually learning anything and you pay even more when you lose it. Try different tactics instead of going the easy route. That way you will be far more proud of yourself when you "did it" and you will have learned something, too! it's okay to look... ;)
Adela Talvanen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 93	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:31:00 - [6] - Quote Angelica Dreamstar wrote: Stick with smaller ships. They help you actually gain experience. If you "upgrade" you'll just make your life easier without actually learning anything and you pay even more when you lose it. Try different tactics instead of going the easy route. That way you will be far more proud of yourself when you "did it" and you will have learned something, too! Thanks for the tip. SOOO, I have two choices in the two classes. For the cheap and cheerful Destroyer the Corax, or the Cormorant And for the more capable but more expensive Cruiser the Caracal or the Moa. Then for either I have the fittings. I'm currently skilled in both hybrid rails, and small misslies.
Angelica Dreamstar Epic Boo Bees 56	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:36:00 - [7] - Quote Adela Talvanen wrote: Angelica Dreamstar wrote: Stick with smaller ships. They help you actually gain experience. If you "upgrade" you'll just make your life easier without actually learning anything and you pay even more when you lose it. Try different tactics instead of going the easy route. That way you will be far more proud of yourself when you "did it" and you will have learned something, too! Thanks for the tip. SOOO, I have two choices in the two classes. For the cheap and cheerful Destroyer the Corax, or the Cormorant And for the more capable but more expensive Cruiser the Caracal or the Moa. Then for either I have the fittings. I'm currently skilled in both hybrid rails, and small misslies. They're not really more capable in regards to yourself. What's the range you have on your frigate? Have you tried increasing it? Have you tried orbiting at higher speed to reduce damage ? See ... first problem about your question is that you did not provide any information regarding how you tried killing them and how you got blown up. Asking people for advise will just give you the generic "upgrade" answer, which not only is stupid ... it also makes stupid. it's okay to look... ;)
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 1964	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:36:00 - [8] - Quote Adela Talvanen wrote: Thanks for the tip. SOOO, I have two choices in the two classes. For the cheap and cheerful Destroyer the Corax, or the Cormorant And for the more capable but more expensive Cruiser the Caracal or the Moa. Then for either I have the fittings. I'm currently skilled in both hybrid rails, and small misslies. Kestrel ---> Corax ---> Caracal ---> Drake ---> Raven If you like missiles Amarr if you dont lol * Vote MTU For CSM * "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi
Angelica Dreamstar Epic Boo Bees 56	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:38:00 - [9] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Adela Talvanen wrote: Thanks for the tip. SOOO, I have two choices in the two classes. For the cheap and cheerful Destroyer the Corax, or the Cormorant And for the more capable but more expensive Cruiser the Caracal or the Moa. Then for either I have the fittings. I'm currently skilled in both hybrid rails, and small misslies. Kestrel ---> Corax ---> Caracal ---> Drake ---> Raven If you like missiles Amarr if you dont lol I don't understand your post. With that, you just display that you're supporting the idiotic idea of upgrading to a bigger ship every time something gets more complicated. it's okay to look... ;)
Adela Talvanen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 93	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:41:00 - [10] - Quote Angelica Dreamstar wrote: Adela Talvanen wrote: Angelica Dreamstar wrote: Stick with smaller ships. They help you actually gain experience. If you "upgrade" you'll just make your life easier without actually learning anything and you pay even more when you lose it. Try different tactics instead of going the easy route. That way you will be far more proud of yourself when you "did it" and you will have learned something, too! Thanks for the tip. SOOO, I have two choices in the two classes. For the cheap and cheerful Destroyer the Corax, or the Cormorant And for the more capable but more expensive Cruiser the Caracal or the Moa. Then for either I have the fittings. I'm currently skilled in both hybrid rails, and small misslies. They're not really more capable in regards to yourself. What's the range you have on your frigate? Have you tried increasing it? Have you tried orbiting at higher speed to reduce damage ? See ... first problem about your question is that you did not provide any information regarding how you tried killing them and how you got blown up. Asking people for advise will just give you the generic "upgrade" answer, which not only is stupid ... it also makes stupid. My range for my former Merlin's rails was 14Km, I had an afterburner on and going like mad, and I tried to keep the orbit on the initial primary targets i.e. the webbing drones as big I could get, and as big an orbit as the Merlins weaponry allows to be effective.

Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 1964	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:41:00 - [11] - Quote Angelica Dreamstar wrote: I don't understand your post. With that, you just display that you're supporting the idiotic idea of upgrading to a bigger ship every time something gets more complicated. No, you just display how you dont understand that a kestrel cant do a Level 4 mission and that learning the first ship in a line of development to its conclusion gives you a good basis in every ship that comes after. In short, dont try flying a raven until you can fly a corax properly * Vote MTU For CSM * "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi
Angelica Dreamstar Epic Boo Bees 56	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:44:00 - [12] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Angelica Dreamstar wrote: I don't understand your post. With that, you just display that you're supporting the idiotic idea of upgrading to a bigger ship every time something gets more complicated. No, you just display how you dont understand that a kestrel cant do a Level 4 mission and that learning the first ship in a line of development to its conclusion gives you a good basis in every ship that comes after. In short, dont try flying a raven until you can fly a corax properly That confused me. We're not talking about a lvl4 and I agree, trying that in a kestrel won't probably lead anywhere. True is, though, that learning the first ship in a line of development - at least PROPERLY - gives a good basis on every ship that comes after. Your sentence confused me. xD it's okay to look... ;)
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 1967	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:46:00 - [13] - Quote Angelica Dreamstar wrote: That confused me. We're not talking about a lvl4 and I agree, trying that in a kestrel won't probably lead anywhere. True is, though, that learning the first ship in a line of development - at least PROPERLY - gives a good basis on every ship that comes after. Your sentence confused me. xD Sorry, I keep writing the last thing I thought rather than the process that lead me there * Vote MTU For CSM * "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi
Angelica Dreamstar Epic Boo Bees 56	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:51:00 - [14] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Angelica Dreamstar wrote: That confused me. We're not talking about a lvl4 and I agree, trying that in a kestrel won't probably lead anywhere. True is, though, that learning the first ship in a line of development - at least PROPERLY - gives a good basis on every ship that comes after. Your sentence confused me. xD Sorry, I keep writing the last thing I thought rather than the process that lead me there Let's figure out how we can help her. I don't know the mission. I know things can be tough in a frigate, though. Options are ... increasing the range via ammo, tracking computers, rigs, tracking enhancers. Doing less damage is still a better option than getting blown up. Problem with orbiting isn't actually the ship that gets orbited, but all the others. Another option is to use a mwd and kiting them, going for increased range again while staying outside of their range. That's mostly my preferred method anyway. Or ... bigger ship ............. it's okay to look... ;)
Ramona McCandless The McCandless Clan Turing Tested 1968	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:00:00 - [15] - Quote Well without knowing skills its difficult. Missiles allow for the range to become less of a factor (better effective range and tracking with sufficient support skills.) MWD makes you a btter target than a AB though. Id concentrate on making sure your tank was up to snuff first. Fill the EM hole with a nice EM Ward module, enhance with an Adaptive Invul and an extender. Depending on how much cap you have and how many med slots enhance with a AB. Lows start with a Damage Control, and if using missiles a Ballistic control module * Vote MTU For CSM * "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." --áPontianak Sythaeryn Omnis nomiom nom nom nomi
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2234	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:56:00 - [16] - Quote It's also going to be helpful to people if you post the fit you were using. The first time I ran this arc, I did all of it in a Rifter except the final fight where I had to move into a Thrasher for the added DPS. It's quite likely you can handle it in the Merlin if you're fit right and flying right. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 8811	Posted - 2014.01.05 20:06:00 - [17] - Quote This thread is full of so many helpful responses, and its located in GD?!?!!? This is indeed a disturbing universe..... *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Vaju Enki Secular Wisdom 1203	Posted - 2014.01.05 20:24:00 - [18] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Cruiser is recommended for those with less experience and skills, although a destroyer is also capable of completing the entire epic arc (running it on a fairly new character I was able to complete all of it in a Cormorant, my second time overall). The first time i played EvE Online, i also did it on a Cormorant. The Tears Must Flow
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 110	Posted - 2014.01.05 22:15:00 - [19] - Quote Assault Frigates are great for this sort of mission though there are a few serious downsides for newer players: - you need racial frigate to V, preferably in a couple of races - they cost almost as much as a battle-cruiser - instead of changing hardeners for different missions you swap out entire ships so you need a few to choose from
Jill Chastot Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok. 93	Posted - 2014.01.05 22:37:00 - [20] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Adela Talvanen wrote: Thanks for the tip. SOOO, I have two choices in the two classes. For the cheap and cheerful Destroyer the Corax, or the Cormorant And for the more capable but more expensive Cruiser the Caracal or the Moa. Then for either I have the fittings. I'm currently skilled in both hybrid rails, and small misslies. . Raven Kestrel ---> Corax ---> Caracal ---> Drake ---< . Tengu If you like missiles Amarr if you dont lol Fixed

Utsukushi Shi Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine 7	Posted - 2014.01.06 04:13:00 - [21] - Quote I would try a LML corax or rail corm personally for the increased range. Not sure what your fitting skills are like but you will probably want to use an AB. Don't worry too much about a "perfect" fit since either should have the dps, even if you have to drop a weapon slot or whatever. If you do go with the rail corm make sure you have some antimatter for close range work.
Michael Ruckert Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 38	Posted - 2014.01.06 05:05:00 - [22] - Quote Did that mission in a Tristan with max drone skills. Killed all the things.
Theodoric Darkwind PonyWaffe Insidious Empire 298	Posted - 2014.01.06 07:05:00 - [23] - Quote Assuming you are new. Corax will be the easist to use. It has great range with light missiles. When I did it the first time I used a railgun fit Catalyst (Algos didn't exist yet). On my minmatar alt I used an autocannon Thrasher (Talwar didn't exist yet).
Foobar Raboof Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.02.20 05:20:00 - [24] - Quote I lost a fast atron at the second stage trying to do a run-n-gun...got webbed and dead But, I went back with a vexor and a bunch of hobgoblins, the drones never touched me, I sat at 30k and let my drones do the work...lost a couple, but better than pod goo! I don't think the drones even fired at me. Foo
Malcolm Shinhwa Bad Touches 1229	Posted - 2014.02.20 05:30:00 - [25] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: This thread is full of so many helpful responses, and its located in GD?!?!!? This is indeed a disturbing universe..... And 1/2 of those are from Ramona McCandless who is back from a stay in the CCP Gulag which has apparently mellowed her out. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
Lugia3 Emerald Inc. 844	Posted - 2014.02.20 07:57:00 - [26] - Quote Ramona McCandless wrote: Adela Talvanen wrote: Thanks for the tip. SOOO, I have two choices in the two classes. For the cheap and cheerful Destroyer the Corax, or the Cormorant And for the more capable but more expensive Cruiser the Caracal or the Moa. Then for either I have the fittings. I'm currently skilled in both hybrid rails, and small misslies. Kestrel ---> Corax ---> Caracal ---> Drake ---> Raven If you like missiles Amarr if you dont lol My Gallente and Winmatar armada is going to have to disagree with that. "CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik
Shederov Blood 769	Posted - 2014.02.20 11:31:00 - [27] - Quote Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: This thread is full of so many helpful responses, and its located in GD?!?!!? This is indeed a disturbing universe..... And 1/2 of those are from Ramona McCandless who is back from a stay in the CCP Gulag which has apparently mellowed her out. You might want to check the dates on those posts.
Graabeerd Khagah ImaNicePirate.com Ideal Society 104	Posted - 2014.02.20 13:35:00 - [28] - Quote With my missile skills and drone skills to gether my choices are the Corax and Caracal, I can fire at range of about 40km and 60km on drones to do the dirty work and ususally it works out really good that way. Just an idea to consider.
Ralen Zateki Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 52	Posted - 2014.02.20 13:56:00 - [29] - Quote Angelica Dreamstar wrote: Ramona McCandless wrote: Adela Talvanen wrote: Thanks for the tip. SOOO, I have two choices in the two classes. For the cheap and cheerful Destroyer the Corax, or the Cormorant And for the more capable but more expensive Cruiser the Caracal or the Moa. Then for either I have the fittings. I'm currently skilled in both hybrid rails, and small misslies. Kestrel ---> Corax ---> Caracal ---> Drake ---> Raven If you like missiles Amarr if you dont lol I don't understand your post. With that, you just display that you're supporting the idiotic idea of upgrading to a bigger ship every time something gets more complicated. This. The immediate jump to "you need a bigger ship" is a fools gambit. You are likely struggling with enough SPs to make a frigate half- assed effective... much less a cruiser. If you move to fast into the bigger boat you're just going to end up with a big, slow, weak hog that punches no more effectively than your frigate or destroyer... and you are going to spend a large percentage of your ISK for the pleasure. Play the game on your terms. Just buy a frigate, put an afterburner on it, and set keep at range outside of their webifier ability. You'll need some guns with optimal range above 10km or so... preferrably out to 20km. I used an Amarr Tormentor with Radio S. Worked like a charm. Took a little time, but hey...
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet 6299	Posted - 2014.02.20 19:46:00 - [30] - Quote One time bump to fix forum.



Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

Copyright © 2006-2025, Chribba - OMG Labs. All Rights Reserved. - perf 0,03s, ref 20250501/2231
EVE-Online™ and Eve imagery © CCP.

bitcoin: 1CHRiBBArqpw5Yz7x5KS2RRtN5ubEn5gF

COPYRIGHT NOTICE
EVE Online, the EVE logo, EVE and all associated logos and designs are the intellectual property of CCP hf. All artwork, screenshots, characters, vehicles, storylines, world facts or other recognizable features of the intellectual property relating to these trademarks are likewise the intellectual property of CCP hf. EVE Online and the EVE logo are the registered trademarks of CCP hf. All rights are reserved worldwide. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. CCP hf. has granted permission to EVE-Search.com to use EVE Online and all associated logos and designs for promotional and information purposes on its website but does not endorse, and is not in any way affiliated with, EVE-Search.com. CCP is in no way responsible for the content on or functioning of this website, nor can it be liable for any damage arising from the use of this website.