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Nuela
Beacon Light Corporation
Beacon Light Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.08 17:16:00 -
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Well...I have asked myself the same question...well *I* don't want to be an evil Overlord...it sounds like too much work...but I have asked myself the question as to why certain leaders seem to attract followers and others don't. It's been years since I did this so may not remember my thoughts well but here goes.
- You have to be a good tactician/planner/whatever. This won't MAKE you an Evil Overlord...but you have to be good at what you do so others recognize this. There are usually many good tacticians out there but they don't attract people to them.
- As another poster has said...once you are really good you need a 'personality'. It is like teaching. If you look at the really good teachers you had in your life during mandatory education (High School and below) the really good teachers were good teachers AND had a strong personality. It almost doesn't matter what this personality is so long as it is strong. It usually takes the form of 'loveable quirks' and viewpoints.
- You can be an 'evil' Overlord or a 'good' one...it doesn't matter so long as the personality is strong. However, if you go the 'Evil' route you must make the men under your command part of your inner circle. Make fun of that OTHER guy so all your men can smirk and revel in evilness. It is perfectly ok to make fun of men under your command but do so in a non evil way...picking on some 'flaw' that isn't so bad and needling them. It helps if the flaw is actually a strength...(NUELA don't be planning so damn much again...just run screaming into the fight for a change!). Note, this is dangerous and hard because if they sense you are doing this..and people are good at sensing this...you will come across like a pathetic loser.
- You need to be on voice coms in order to project this personality. You need to be talking and talk often and in a way that people like to listen. In other words you need charisma. If you don't have it, like me, you will never be an Evil Overlord but if you do have charisma it still takes work as mentioned in the previous point.
- You must have a good 'radio' voice. If you do not have this, you are boned.
- You must be on often. If you have a job then you can still have that job but you still need to be on often and at a predictable times. This way your horde can do things when you not on but know when you will be.
- You must always take charge when you come online (and so need an alt for when you just want to chill). When you come on THINGS WILL BE DONE. There is PURPOSE when you are online.
- Always remember in games people follow you because they want to. People do things you want because they want to. This is that charisma things again...if you have to force people to do things you won't be an Evil Overlord for long.
- Your men come first. They are always right and you stand by them and defend them.
- However, sometimes your men are wrong. ALWAYS PRAISE IN PUBLIC AND SCOLD IN PRIVATE. If you have to correct behavior, you do so 1 on 1.
- If someone screws up remember and convey to your men that life is like American Football. Sometimes you fumble the ball. That's bad, but it happens. You will get the ball again.
- Evil Overlords need to win. If you lose/fail too many times in a row...well...people don't like losing. However, the occassional bad spell is good for finding who your stronger followers are - the ones who don't desert if things aren't peachy.\
Good Luck! |
Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken
Ragnarok.
125
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Posted - 2014.01.08 18:16:00 -
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Brendan Anneto wrote:Suck mittens off and he might let you command a rifter fleet. * Go forth my minions Attack the bestower....
As long as you promise not to command other fleets to drop and recall drones while logging in and out |
Miette Hartley
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.08 18:33:00 -
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Play the game for a couple years.
Based on reading some unofficial EVE forums and news sites and observing the curious creatures that post there and claim to be human, I can say that it's a major bonus to also be a complete shitter in real life. That way, you can be state supported = available for EVE every hour of every day, every day of every month, and every month of every year. Now, you might think that being a leader of an alliance in EVE actually demands leadership ability or any number of other traits. Don't be fooled.
All you need is time and a revolving door for people willing to deal with both your own ****** personality and everyone in your future space empire's random day-to-day drama for you. When you get robbed, rage and rant for a couple days, then get right back on the horse. After all, you're a warlord. Just remember: Intelligence, wisdom, patience, intuition, charisma, being able to write and vocalize above the level of a pre-schooler - these are all entirely optional traits. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
166
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Posted - 2014.01.08 18:58:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Become charismatic forum troll.
Gain lots of followers.
....stuff....
....stuff....
....stuff....
Take over the universe.
Its an incomplete plan right now, but im telling you...im halfway to my first milemarker part way to the midway point of step 1.
Nobody trains charisma.
Hm, I'll make a character named "Lots of" and declare myself your follower. Will that be sufficent for achieveing point 2?
New player resources:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information
http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP
http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
4889
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:06:00 -
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i find the correlation between the OPs avatar and his question rather humorous for some reason. |
Daedlus Caine
Wormhole Interactions
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:19:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Step 1: Project a persona that is crazy yet mostly likeable. We're talking the kind of "crazy yet likeable" that builds pseudo-cults.
Step 2: Create an "inner circle" of people that can support, cheer lead, or (at the very least) tolerate your colorful, yet predictable insanity. Just make sure that they are all within "leg breaking distance" in real life (or buy them a few beers... whichever is less messy).
Step 3: Accept that not everyone will like you and punish offenders accordingly.
Step 4: Never bite off more than you can chew. At the same time, never make promises you can't keep. Failure reeks of weakness (unless you can make that weakness your strength).
Step 5: Delegate, delegate, delegate. Being a warlord means you will be busy most of the time making threats and being insane. If you can accomplish a task by sending a rookie into the fire... do it. No need to get your own hands messy.
Step 6: Keep things interesting for everyone. Have your close supporters bring in or build a bunch of ships for "suicide fleets" or kill an underling/ally in dishonorable combat... just because.
Step 7: Money is power. Make shrewd deals with allies and enemies alike... just make sure your "inner circle" is aware of these deals.
Step 8: Quash all dissension and consolidate your power. Make an example of anyone who questions your authority... preferably in the most colorful way you can (who says using capitals to gank a lone industrial is overkill?).
I love you. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
181
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:36:00 -
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Only way would be to be a warlord IRL, get your IRL minions to open accounts and be your alts, Under threat of IRL death they follow you in EVE. Don't have to worry about corp theft or alliance theft shenanigans because you know who they are and where you left them chained to a computer desk.
Make them all run 10 accounts each and use isboxer and your empire can be that much more expansive.
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Holgrak Blacksmith
European Research and Industry Corp
192
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:42:00 -
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Wooly Akachi wrote:You have failed the first step.
You do not ask!
You state you are a warlord those who do not bow down to you will die!
So you are a minion!
Didn't Alexander and Genghis ask on the forums first? |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
2587
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:46:00 -
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Ah yes, a fellow megalomaniac. Having not yet built my own eternal empire of blood and steel, I can't offer any advice based on practical hands-on experience. Only some of my own broodings on the matter.
- Ponder on what Benny Ohu, ShahFluffers, and Nuela have already said here.
- Read The Technocrat: Leadership Algorhythms by Praxis Astra. This is your intro treatise on the greasy nuts and bolts of forming and managing an organization of EVE players. From there, you can go on to his Neurotechnicon, which is about spying and the meta-game.
- One standout maxim from the mighty Praxis Astra: Expert authority carries the day. Even though EVE groups are structured as dictatorships with the CEO/Executor being able to kick anyone out or end the club itself, expert authority will be the actual means of decision making and implementation 9 times in 10. A corollary: Knowledge of the tiny details of how a game mechanic works can make you or break you in EVE. Flub a detail and you can have a critical disaster. Taking advantage of one can provide huge benefits.
- That's enough hints to a potential rival for one day.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
590
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Posted - 2014.01.08 19:47:00 -
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Zerg just do et mang
Concord eve you have dat spark
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1930
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:01:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hello.
I would really like your advice.
I EVE, how do I become a warlord who orders forces to attack structures and conquers regions?
I want to advance my forces onto enemies, and have them submit to me or be crushed.
Do I need to go to sov null to accomplish this, or are there plenty of opportunities to become an armchair general in NPC null and lowsec?
Pay the goons to move all your stuff to 0.0 after you have paid them the correct fee to join their corp.
Becoming a warlord will seem like child's play then.
This is not a signature. |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
651
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:45:00 -
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I think you should follow the "booby atlas" school of being a warlord.
1. Get a bunch of people to join
2. Scream on open comms at anyone who questions you (make sure to use the term douche-canoe)
3. Go AFK
4. ???
5. Disband
Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
kes88
Swords of Persephone
43
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Posted - 2014.01.08 20:58:00 -
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Eurydia Vespasian wrote:i find the correlation between the OPs avatar and his question rather humorous for some reason.
I agree with this. OP needs to look more like he eats kittens for breakfast or uses his face to chop wood or something.
Need more RARRRRR and less "may I have a croissant with my latte?"
Not that I have much experience in teaching warlords how to be warlord, but I imagine looking like you wanna wage war is probably up there.
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
463
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:03:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:how do I become a warlord
There are two ways to do this.
1) Roll a Warrior Class in Rift. One of the soul trees is Warlord - it's ******* horrible.
2) Play D&D 4e
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
FeralShadow
Black Storm Cartel
Blackguard Mercenaries
264
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:15:00 -
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Setting things up properly and delegation are tremendously important.
That, and motivation.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |
Dave Stark
4150
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:18:00 -
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will admit; i didn't read the thread.
but has nobody suggested flaying a prominent coalition leader and wearing them like a coat in order to assume their identity? |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
3299
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Posted - 2014.01.08 21:30:00 -
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Why nobody posted this yet? Are you trying to mislead the boy?
The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
4661
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:07:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
This is my bible!
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective. |
Zifrian
Licentia Ex Vereor
Black Core Alliance
1384
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:15:00 -
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Looks like a poor attempt to make fun of Mitanni....
Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! |
Big Lynx
Super Heroes In Training
54
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Posted - 2014.01.08 22:17:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hello.
I would really like your advice.
I EVE, how do I become a warlord who orders forces to attack structures and conquers regions?
I want to advance my forces onto enemies, and have them submit to me or be crushed.
Do I need to go to sov null to accomplish this, or are there plenty of opportunities to become an armchair general in NPC null and lowsec?
Ill tell you for 5b isk. |
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
128
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:15:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Diamond Zerg wrote:how do I become a warlord There are two ways to do this. 1) Roll a Warrior Class in Rift. One of the soul trees is Warlord - it's ******* horrible. 2) Play D&D 4e
4th Edition is the spawn of the devil .
To the OP ----> its reasonably easy, spend several thousand dollars of real money on PLEX and buy a really old character on the character bazaar, buy a shiny ship, form a corp and go to the one of the noob forums and offer them all a hundred million ISK to join your corp and tell them as a XX year old player you can teach them all there is to know about EVE.
Voila ... instant noob army at your command |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
1021
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Posted - 2014.01.08 23:24:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hello.
I would really like your advice.
I EVE, how do I become a warlord who orders forces to attack structures and conquers regions?
I want to advance my forces onto enemies, and have them submit to me or be crushed.
Do I need to go to sov null to accomplish this, or are there plenty of opportunities to become an armchair general in NPC null and lowsec?
Asking negates all possibilities...
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003..
EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |
logic principle3
Knights-of-Cydonia
6
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:33:00 -
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Go to africa? |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
467
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Posted - 2014.01.09 01:39:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:4th Edition is the spawn of the devil .
Yea, I was wondering how long it would take to get that reaction.
^^
Paranoia never killed anyone. -áA complete absence of it has. |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
941
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:24:00 -
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Petotion CCP for funny hat.
Buy and don funny hat.
Recite Conan's "What are the best things in life" speech in local.
Instant Warlord.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Caldari State Capturing
813
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Posted - 2014.01.09 02:49:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Find a religion malleable to your goals
or
Form a religion malleable to others
I took the 2nd option.
Worked out great.
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me.
Now don't judge or question.
You are broken now, but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.
(Opiate - Tool) |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
4102
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Posted - 2014.01.09 03:33:00 -
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Diamond Zerg wrote:Hello.
I would really like your advice.
I EVE, how do I become a warlord who orders forces to attack structures and conquers regions?
I want to advance my forces onto enemies, and have them submit to me or be crushed.
Do I need to go to sov null to accomplish this, or are there plenty of opportunities to become an armchair general in NPC null and lowsec?
What, no "crush your enemies, see them driven before you..." and all that? You're off to a bad start.
The first thing you need to be a warlord is a really big hat.
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Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
397
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Posted - 2014.01.09 04:39:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Learn how to curse people out while still maintaining their love and admiration.
You mean something like this
armor hacs |
dilly nay
State War Academy
Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2014.01.09 05:52:00 -
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Your first step toward becoming a warlord is to fetch me a pastry. |
Daedlus Caine
Wormhole Interactions
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Posted - 2014.01.09 06:47:00 -
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Don't trust the Goons, they're only looking to squeeze you for your ISKies so they can fund their demise.
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