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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jessie Banda Tbh it disgusts me.
yeah.
i was having a lovely time reading about human rights atrocities, and was really enjoying it, then i saw an advert for an Isk auction out of the corner of my eye. I was so disgusted i had to have a lay down.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:04:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/03/2006 15:05:11
Quote: Oh so just because they are doing a service it's ok for them to tempt ppl to break the eula? I think not. An RL radio station wouldn't be allowed to promote e.g. extremist rightwing political groups, who would use violence, or money forgery or any other kind of criminal behavior either.
There's a massive difference between laws and a game's rules.
and why would Google give a spunky fart what CCP think, anyway?
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/03/2006 15:08:10
Quote: Yes exactly thats why google will never change it. They are breaking no laws, why would they change? But, EVE RAdio SHOULD get rid of the google ads. They are breaking CCP's rules by keeping them there. So I don't understand why people are blaming google?
NONONO.
Eve radio would be breaking ccp's rules by buying or selling isk, which would result in their eve characters being banned. They can put whatever the hell they like on their own external website.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Jessie Banda Since they do take donations from listeners they get a big income to support their site and servers there.
big income? i doubt it.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:21:00 -
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don't worry, i've petitioned the GMs about CCP.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Jessie Banda
Originally by: Usul Faust
Originally by: Jessie Banda Still ccp links to this site. and other sites for that matter. this is not only an attack on eve radio. it's an attack on all fansites showing ads for isk sellers. Then at least they should be removed from the official link list, unless ccp decides to change the rules for selling isk. How can you be a officially registred fansite when you encourage ppl to break the eula?
by your logic: I smoke 40 a day, so i'm encouraging you to get lung cancer.
Well you are definitely riskin to cause other ppl to be exposed to passive smoking, wich can also lead to lung cancer... so... yeah
actually, i would encourage you to get lung canger.
a lot.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:31:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/03/2006 15:32:50
Originally by: Jessie Banda Hmm... so when you can't argue you just wish on others to get lung cancer ? You're appearantly one of the reasons that the problem arose in the first place. Bad morale standards. And appearantly a flame bait.
You're clearly illiterate. You can't 'encourage' somebody to get cancer.
That's what's flawed with your whole argument. Ignoring your impotent moral outrage and my bad moral standards for a second, you're labouring under the impression that people who see that ad will go straight out and buy/sell isk. They won't.
Yesterday, i saw a whole bunch of things advertised that i didn't buy.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/03/2006 15:35:06
So you're saying that everybody who sees these adverts buys isk? Why then isn't it a multi-billion dollar industry?
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:35:00 -
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prove it.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jessie Banda
Originally by: Usul Faust prove it.
Prove it wrong.
If nobody did, there wouldn't be any commercials for these sites, simply because there wouldn't be any sites selling isk.
actually, it was your idea to remove these ads. the burden of proof lies with you.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:43:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/03/2006 15:44:19
Quote: Our sites AD FREE and we are VERY EVE ralted and took in ALOT of traffic the past month
greed causes isk crap sales...
yet_another_eve_site.com WILL never have ANY ADS for ISK ...EVER
to all you fansite sporting google ads for isk or any ISK ad forsale for cash what so ever....
heres my sentiments..
your greedy fools...i avoid those sites once i see the ads...and never visit again...EVER
yeeees. and do don't have a painfully transparent agenda, do you Blackhole Bob.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 15:46:00 -
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i honestly don't think i could muster the enthusiasm to read your balance sheets.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.21 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Usul Faust on 21/03/2006 16:55:05
Quote: just that from some of the former comments from people, it seems like at least some of them simply want to shut me up, because they do have part in the iskselling business. Might be me being wrong, but it really looks like...
Right. it's all a big conspiracy, just like The Fugative! and you're the one armed man, but you're actually innocent. Except you're trying to imply that Han Solo killed that woman because he dosen't agree with your frankly bizzare obsession with isk trading. So it's not much like The Fugitive at all. But i'm still like Han Solo.
Adverts for isk aren't a big deal. I've seen isk advertised in dozens of places, hundreds of times, and have never bought or sold a single isk. Ever. And since Eve is just a computergame anyway, i have zero interest in buying/selling any. Ever. At the end of the day you're 'disgusted' and full of moral outrage, but over what?
that somebody, somewhere, might be tempted to buy some isk? honestly, who cares.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.22 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Jessie Banda Also would like to add that Eve Radio's actually kickin off a commercial venture out of this, with the Gaming Radio Network. They do make rl money out of this, and also they get donations from their listeners. In the writing moment they've gotten ú263.52 in donations this month alone. As stated again in the eula, it is not endorsed for others than CCP, to make money on the game. Hmm.. these two things doesn't really walk hand in hand now does it? I know the donations are to cover costs.. or so they say.. but with ú450 as goal pr. month, that is more than what would be nessecary to cover the costs of running the site, and shoutcast servers, if you care to shop around for a cheap but good host. Quite a bit more than the $120/year someone mentioned earlier in this thread. if they do reach their goal of ú450 each month, it's ú5400 a year. Don't come tell me that's not more than enough to cover the cost of the site... and then some.
It would apprear your problem isn't with isk sellers advertising via google, but eve-radio itself.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.22 11:35:00 -
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so you'll stop going on about this if eve-radio put up a disclaimer?
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.22 11:47:00 -
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I have nothing to do with eve-radio. I actually think it's rubbish, but that's not relevant. I couldn't give a monkey-spunk about people getting themselves banned from Eve, for whatever reason.
What i can't figure out is why you're so upset about this...
Originally by: Jessie Banda
Please CCP do something about this, as soon as possible, since this kind of behaviour advocates for ppl to try and break the eula. Tbh it disgusts me. Quote:
Mmmm. Emotive.
Why does it 'disgust' you? is this honestly the most important thing for you to spend your time doing?
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.22 11:54:00 -
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Heck, a bold text WARNING! would probably boost their click-through from curious muppets too. Everybody wins.
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