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Jennsen Paris Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok. 0	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:36:00 - [1] - Quote Floating in space, I found an Armageddon. Fully fit, with 100% armor and shields. Anybody would go "awesome find!" and I was no different, but what I noticed was this thing had -17% (NEGATIVE percent) structure. I dare not hop in it while it was in that state in case it might explode on me when I enter it.. So I got a ship, repped it, and flew it to its new home. This might be something that's already been addressed somewhere, but the search function doesn't show it, but how the hell is negative structure possible without blowing up the ship?
Hesod Adee Kiwis In Space 239	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:55:00 - [2] - Quote I'm guessing that the last person to fly it had mechanics trained and when he ejected he had less structure remaining than mechanics gave him. So when that bonus was subtracted there was negative structure. My guess would be that if you had mechanics trained to at least 4 it would have been safe for you to fly.
Shiti Dama University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:56:00 - [3] - Quote Pilot gets the hull to 4% reps the armor and shield up leaves the ship and the extra hull hit points from implants and boosters disappear. my best guess.
Marie Hartinez Aries Munitions and Defense 549	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:56:00 - [4] - Quote At a wild guess..... Someone was in a fight. At the end of said fight, the ship's structure was next to nothing. Someone repped the armor and shields. For some reason, they ejected from the ship. When they did this, the structure HP went negative as their mechanics skill was no longer providing a bonus to structure. I've heard somewhere, that there is a bug or something that prevents a ship from going kaboom with no structure if it still has armor and shields. Or something like that. Surrender is still your slightly less painful option.
Jennsen Paris Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok. 0	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:57:00 - [5] - Quote That's what I thought at first too, but I'm not so sure.I figure that would cause the ship to explode. In fact, ejecting from a ship TELLS you that your skills might be all that holds it together. Is this not true? O.o
Jennsen Paris Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok. 0	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:58:00 - [6] - Quote Marie Hartinez wrote: At a wild guess..... I've heard somewhere, that there is a bug or something that prevents a ship from going kaboom with no structure if it still has armor and shields. Or something like that. A bug would make sense. Could just be some weird quirk in the mechanics. Oh well, I can't complain. Free fully fit 'geddon. lol
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 2322	Posted - 2014.01.14 22:59:00 - [7] - Quote Hesod Adee wrote: I'm guessing that the last person to fly it had mechanics trained and when he ejected he had less structure remaining than mechanics gave him. So when that bonus was subtracted there was negative structure. In which case the ship generally explodes. OP found a glitch in the matrix. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today.
Inzax 40	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:03:00 - [8] - Quote Ships log would be nice. Who made it. Who owned it. Where it had been. Shipfax for eve. Yea, I know...feature and ideas. Slight hijack.
Jennsen Paris Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok. 0	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:07:00 - [9] - Quote Inzax wrote: Ships log would be nice. Who made it. Who owned it. Where it had been. Shipfax for eve. Yea, I know...feature and ideas. Slight hijack. Here sir, have my like. That is an excellent idea. Post that **** in the right thread and I'll come +1 it. :)
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba Bellum Esca 242	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:29:00 - [10] - Quote Curse of the zombie geddon! This is just the beginning....
Jennsen Paris Oath of the Forsaken Ragnarok. 0	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:36:00 - [11] - Quote FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote: Curse of the zombie geddon! This is just the beginning.... At least it wasn't the zombie apocalypse!
Logical 101 Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 326	Posted - 2014.01.14 23:44:00 - [12] - Quote Jennsen Paris wrote: FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote: Curse of the zombie geddon! This is just the beginning.... At least it wasn't the zombie apocalypse! First like incoming! Thanks for making me chuckle with that one.
Alduin666 Shikkoken Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore 371	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:00:00 - [13] - Quote Jennsen Paris wrote: FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote: Curse of the zombie geddon! This is just the beginning.... At least it wasn't the zombie apocalypse! You sir and/or madam have have just won the internetz Honor is a fools prize. Glory is of no use to the dead. Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager
Markku Laaksonen EVE University Ivy League 321	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:17:00 - [14] - Quote They would be... Immortal.
Chopper Rollins Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 452	Posted - 2014.01.15 00:26:00 - [15] - Quote Now see here you got it all wrong, if you'd had one of them Elite Drone AI chips to plug into that negative structure you could have had a BS sized drone loyal to you forever but no. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.

CCP Falcon 5670	Posted - 2014.01.15 13:23:00 - [16] - Quote If you board it, whatever you do... DON'T SNEEZE! CCP Falcon -á \|\| -á EVE Community Manager -á \|\| -á EVE Illuminati @CCP_Falcon -á \|\| -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents

Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 156	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:05:00 - [17] - Quote I am curious as to what happens if you eject from a ship with damaged shields, do they still passively self repair? .. and what if you left reppers running ? I suppose I could eject from something cheap and test this out for myself but really could not be bothered :D

CCP Falcon 5673	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:10:00 - [18] - Quote Hasikan Miallok wrote: I am curious as to what happens if you eject from a ship with damaged shields, do they still passively self repair? .. and what if you left reppers running ? I suppose I could eject from something cheap and test this out for myself but really could not be bothered :D As far as I remember, the modules will finish their current cycle then deactivate. As for passive shield regeneration, I'm not sure if it still occurs while there's no one on board CCP Falcon -á \|\| -á EVE Community Manager -á \|\| -á EVE Illuminati @CCP_Falcon -á \|\| -á-á@EVE_LiveEvents

Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 1076	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:30:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: Hasikan Miallok wrote: I am curious as to what happens if you eject from a ship with damaged shields, do they still passively self repair? .. and what if you left reppers running ? I suppose I could eject from something cheap and test this out for myself but really could not be bothered :D As far as I remember, the modules will finish their current cycle then deactivate. As for passive shield regeneration, I'm not sure if it still occurs while there's no one on board Lol a dev response basically stating I have no idea why I am posting this :P You must be in your lunch time right? "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!"
Melvin Coulter Tactical Munitions Sev3rance 242	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:46:00 - [20] - Quote Kagura Nikon wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hasikan Miallok wrote: I am curious as to what happens if you eject from a ship with damaged shields, do they still passively self repair? .. and what if you left reppers running ? I suppose I could eject from something cheap and test this out for myself but really could not be bothered :D As far as I remember, the modules will finish their current cycle then deactivate. As for passive shield regeneration, I'm not sure if it still occurs while there's no one on board Lol a dev response basically stating I have no idea why I am posting this :P You must be in your lunch time right? correction he is on his booze break Move along!
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc Brave Collective 832	Posted - 2014.01.15 14:46:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: As for passive shield regeneration, I'm not sure if it still occurs while there's no one on board Having lived in a wormhole and having occasionally left my ships outside of the SMA, I can assure you that their shield recharge. (Which does not seem to be the case when you store them in a SMA by the way). As for how this ship was there in this state ? Well, things like that happen sometimes, often with amazing stories that you will never hear about. For my part, I once found a fully Warp Core Stabbed Scorpion with a T1 cloak and a MWD on it, naked for the rest, in the middle of a wormhole connected to our home-wormhole. It had a Russian name, and I kept it for a year before finally loosing it when fighting... a russian merc alliance. How ironic :D G££ <= Me
Mizhir Euphoria Released Triumvirate. 50470	Posted - 2014.01.15 15:02:00 - [22] - Quote I once had a rifter in low structure and then I ejected from it becaues I wanted to give it to the person I just fought. Then it exploded. Apparantly it was my Advanced Ducttape operation V that kept it together. But I don't really understand why the geddon you found didn't explode when the pilot ejected. One Man Crew - The official Bringing Solo Back contest SCL5 Winner
Etria Issen Imperial Varista 16	Posted - 2014.01.15 15:40:00 - [23] - Quote Actually the shields on the ship would probably still regen even if the crew/bridge crew abandoned ship. The actual reactor/engine of the ships are left on - since they explode if you turn them off. No one is controlling it, but the power source is still on, so the shields would still passively regenerate. Regardless, better have that ship checked for zombies, just to be safe. The last thing we need are zombie capsuleers.
ElQuirko Black Dragon Fighting Society The Devil's Tattoo 3187	Posted - 2014.01.15 16:57:00 - [24] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: If you board it, whatever you do... DON'T SNEEZE! Whilst sh*tposting is a fine and noble EVE tradition, I can't help but feel the amount you tend to do it is devalueing dev responses somewhat. Any chance of a helpful response for the OP? Dodixie > Hek
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 2095	Posted - 2014.01.15 16:58:00 - [25] - Quote Jennsen Paris wrote: Floating in space, I found an Armageddon. Fully fit, with 100% armor and shields. Anybody would go "awesome find!" and I was no different, but what I noticed was this thing had -17% (NEGATIVE percent) structure. I dare not hop in it while it was in that state in case it might explode on me when I enter it.. So I got a ship, repped it, and flew it to its new home. This might be something that's already been addressed somewhere, but the search function doesn't show it, but how the hell is negative structure possible without blowing up the ship? Where do you live where people just leave empty ships floating in space??? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Liafcipe9000 Critically Preposterous 13543	Posted - 2014.01.15 17:08:00 - [26] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Jennsen Paris wrote: Floating in space, I found an Armageddon. Fully fit, with 100% armor and shields. Anybody would go "awesome find!" and I was no different, but what I noticed was this thing had -17% (NEGATIVE percent) structure. I dare not hop in it while it was in that state in case it might explode on me when I enter it.. So I got a ship, repped it, and flew it to its new home. This might be something that's already been addressed somewhere, but the search function doesn't show it, but how the hell is negative structure possible without blowing up the ship? Where do you live where people just leave empty ships floating in space??? Wouldn't YOU like to know! I once came across an empty pod. HOW THE **** DID SOMEONE MANAGE TO EJECT FROM A POD?!?! Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase Felicity Love >... was thinking "moar popcorn"... but now, seeing the truly awesome contribution this thread is going to make to the Greater Glory Of EVE.... imagonnamakkadapizza....
seth Hendar I love you miners 371	Posted - 2014.01.15 17:25:00 - [27] - Quote Liafcipe9000 wrote: Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Jennsen Paris wrote: Floating in space, I found an Armageddon. Fully fit, with 100% armor and shields. Anybody would go "awesome find!" and I was no different, but what I noticed was this thing had -17% (NEGATIVE percent) structure. I dare not hop in it while it was in that state in case it might explode on me when I enter it.. So I got a ship, repped it, and flew it to its new home. This might be something that's already been addressed somewhere, but the search function doesn't show it, but how the hell is negative structure possible without blowing up the ship? Where do you live where people just leave empty ships floating in space??? Wouldn't YOU like to know! I once came across an empty pod. HOW THE **** DID SOMEONE MANAGE TO EJECT FROM A POD?!?! i think that "back then" it was somehow possible to do so, i know a friend of mine has a pod in a station container. a remant of the past i'd say, like those frigs / cruiser with large rigs
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE. 181	Posted - 2014.01.15 17:33:00 - [28] - Quote Etria Issen wrote: Actually the shields on the ship would probably still regen even if the crew/bridge crew abandoned ship. The actual reactor/engine of the ships are left on - since they explode if you turn them off. No one is controlling it, but the power source is still on, so the shields would still passively regenerate. Regardless, better have that ship checked for zombies, just to be safe. The last thing we need are zombie capsuleers. These already exist. The NO calls them "bot-aspirant". New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á
thowlimer Roprocor Ltd 13	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:14:00 - [29] - Quote Melvin Coulter wrote: Kagura Nikon wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hasikan Miallok wrote: I am curious as to what happens if you eject from a ship with damaged shields, do they still passively self repair? .. and what if you left reppers running ? I suppose I could eject from something cheap and test this out for myself but really could not be bothered :D As far as I remember, the modules will finish their current cycle then deactivate. As for passive shield regeneration, I'm not sure if it still occurs while there's no one on board Lol a dev response basically stating I have no idea why I am posting this :P You must be in your lunch time right? correction he is on his booze break liquid lunch ?
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 4118	Posted - 2014.01.15 20:17:00 - [30] - Quote Kagura Nikon wrote: CCP Falcon wrote: Hasikan Miallok wrote: I am curious as to what happens if you eject from a ship with damaged shields, do they still passively self repair? .. and what if you left reppers running ? I suppose I could eject from something cheap and test this out for myself but really could not be bothered :D As far as I remember, the modules will finish their current cycle then deactivate. As for passive shield regeneration, I'm not sure if it still occurs while there's no one on board Lol a dev response basically stating I have no idea why I am posting this :P You must be in your lunch time right? I've managed tech support departments where it's OK to say "Hey, I don't know" to people who just have to know every little thing about a product, even the most esoteric. Nobody got fired.

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