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Posted - 2014.01.16 09:53:00 -
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Logical 101 wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:And the weakest non argument yet out of our friendly neighborhood pedant who thinks he's a word smith. Cornered? I'm disappointed. I thought you'd keep it going. It was fun while it lasted. I generally like your posting and agree with some things you say. But this time you really missed the mark and looked like a bit of a tool.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 12:45:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:There are no better tears than null sec tears. The fact that almost every major alliance is crying and whining over this means it was a great idea. Your Alliance must be proud.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 14:17:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Its funny, nullsec income gets nerfed, only nullsec complains...
Oh the tears... I think you'll find that is incorrect.
Oh and FYP.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:17:00 -
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tiberiusric wrote:Tippia wrote:Quote:You know nullsec alliance are annoying as hell. You want free isk and do nothing for it. You want moon gold. You refuse to rat, you refuse to mine, you refuse to do anything that requires some effort. The reason they're annoying is because you're clueless. They don't want anything for free (or they'd be in highsec); they don't refuse to rat; they don't refuse to mine; they don't shy away from effortGǪ let me get this straight you total absolute trolling idiot. I have lived in nullsec for years, i know damn well what i am talking about. All you ever do is post completely bigotted posts. to be honest i am totally sick of your constant moaning and trolling and derailing of topics because people dont agree with you. I am now going to block/hide you from the forums, because quite frankly i am tired of the trash that comes out of your mouth. You have no clue about anything. Good Day... ad you can post your usual pathetic retort because i wont see it - thank god I must not be reading the same posts as you then. For I have not seen this trolling, constant moaning and completely bigoted posts you talk of.
But that aside, instead of replying to the points raised, you simply went all personal and ranted lots of nonsense. Seems a little ironic and hypocritical, when reading what you actually posted in reply.
Good day. (You can block me also, if that makes you feel better. )
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:30:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Hmmm so they can't assign an alt to drop the thing in a big old insured Rokh with 8 big fat smarties. And have the alt periodically take the payout?
Guess what happens when you take stuff out periodically?
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:35:00 -
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tiberiusric wrote:
thanks i will
\o/ win
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:38:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: Will he laugh when you deploy it 100km from an armed POS?
If he manages to do that, then CCP will want to find out how.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:44:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Will he laugh when you deploy it 100km from an armed POS?
If he manages to do that, then CCP will want to find out how. "An ESS cannot be deployed close to stations, stargates or starbases. The minimum range from these structures is several 100 kilometers." Several hundred kilometres is still in range of POS guns. Alt gunner in a pos gun can shoot quite a bit further than maximum activation range. Highlighted the important part.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:52:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: Will he laugh when you deploy it 100km from an armed POS?
If he manages to do that, then CCP will want to find out how. "An ESS cannot be deployed close to stations, stargates or starbases. The minimum range from these structures is several 100 kilometers." Several hundred kilometres is still in range of POS guns. Alt gunner in a pos gun can shoot quite a bit further than maximum activation range. Highlighted the important part. I think you guys are whining over these things when you should be gleefully thinking up ways to exploit them. They're going to make wonderful traps. 1 Gate ------ (bubble)(Armed POS)--------(ESS) 2 (Armed POS with Gunner)----------250km-----(ESS still in range of pos gunner just not auto activation) 3 ------------------(BubbleESS Bubble)--------------Warp in Insta Lock Cane So many fun way to kill people already So you admit you were wrong? OK thanks, moving on.
P.S. Several is more than 2 or 3.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 18:23:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mag's wrote:So you admit you were wrong? OK thanks, moving on. P.S. Several is more than 2 or 3. Its irrelevent. Many POS guns can shoot out to 300-500km. If you really care that much about 5% you can stick an alt in your POS and blap them. Also, given the ESS has a bubble effect you can create some nice log on traps. Stop whining and start thinking. So you being wrong is irrelevant and you still think the whole POS argument is valid?
You obviously have no idea how these things work, or else you wouldn't be suggesting having them near a POS and having an alt periodically removing stuff.
But please, never stop posting.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 20:54:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:baltec1 wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:
That's a great question Baltec! One that deserves an answer. So as a current resident of null sec why do you stay there given it's the worst option?
I don't. I do all of my isk earning in high sec and just travel back for the fights. I don't live in null. So this ESS horseshit would not really affect you at all? I get that that isn't the point. You want to make your ISK in Null. Someone in another thread, I think the threadnaught about nerfing HS, mentioned that in calculating risk v reward for NS, CCP could only account for risk from NPC entities. PC entities and the risk presented by them would be too much of an unknown and incalculable variable in any estimation of reward. I thought that was a really good point. Like a HS miner that mines without incident for days or weeks or months the reward is calculated by the risk presented by NPCs in the system but not by gankers or can flippers. Same thing in Null, the rewards are only calculated by the rats and other NPCs in the system and not by the cloaked cyno roaming about. This is a lot of words and kind of rambling but I'm hoping everyone understands what I'm thinking better than I can express it in words. Yea we see it.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:00:00 -
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Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current.
Don't use one, you get 95%.
If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:12:00 -
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Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Hmmm I cannot believe someone in CCP HQ thought this up and then - and here's the clincher -
THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA. So they created the nerf, in order to justify the unit use. Only, who in their right mind would risk 20% to gain 5?
But hey, it will create conflict.........
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:22:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:Mag's wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current. Don't use one, you get 95%. If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS. Close. The money doesn't get placed into the ESS. It gets placed into a bank account attached to that system. If the ESS is destroyed, the money still exists in the bank account. Redeploying allows you to re-access the bank account. It's a really really weird/bad thing. It has a lot of strange baggage attached to it. Ooh my bad, I missed that. It's actually worse than I thought.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:36:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Mag's wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current. Don't use one, you get 95%. If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into into a bank account attached to that system and accessible by everyone. Edit: ISK placement corrected, thanks to Pinky Hops WOW. This is really stupid. I'm telling this as i hisec dweller. You have my support against this case. Indeed. I'm a low sec dweller and I think it sucks.
I did get the ISK placement wrong, it seems it goes into some magical system bank. I have corrected my post.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:49:00 -
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Stuff about acting like a jerk, then proceeds to act like...... Funny that.
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:56:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:But I will say this, which you will also probably be unable to process; hi sec players had nothing to do with this ESS module. So this "evidence" you have only exists in your mind. I wish stuff that existed in my mind was real... I'd have a rocket car! I'd be better looking! I'd be rich! My rocket car would have missile launchers! (Um because CALDARI) And lastly - I would only eat BREAKFAST FOOD!!! "And in the mornin', I'm making waffles..."
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:55:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Genseric Tollaris wrote:I was referring to the reason Arkady edited his post. Playing a virtual scumbag in a virtual world is one thing, but that's a little different, don't ya think? Margaret Thatcher was a real life scumbag. That may be some people's view, often based on bias information, but I really don't see the point of mentioning it here.
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Posted - 2014.01.18 12:49:00 -
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Infinity, just stop. It's obvious just how wrong you are. Just as it was when you talked about placing an ESS 100KM from a POS. You of course ignored the fact you were wrong then, as you are now. Kinda skipped right over that failure and simply continued to spout misinformation, just as you are now.
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Posted - 2014.01.18 14:48:00 -
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Fix Sov wrote:March rabbit wrote:Fix Sov wrote:I don't even bother with incursions or L4s, I make much more for much less effort by doing market trading. vOv then what is all this thread about??? Pointing out that the ESS is a **** idea? Rabbits can't read.
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:03:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: You must be in 2500 of the ESS to access it. You must stay there for 40 seconds. I often cloaky Rokh smartbomb in exploration sites. No decloak recal time on smartbomb activation.
Grid-fu the grid out to 500km, drop the ESS at its minimal distance, likely 200-500km. Blap with manual POS guns.
Make up your mind, they will dock up and then you say they will destroy it. If they dock up then you're costing them isk, if they fight then you can kill them. Dropping one with a CFC cloaky alt will literally garantee they'll not undock and shoot it because 'hotdrop'.
Just wondering, do you know what range these things can be put down at from a POS? As for the rest, we dont need to drop an ESS to get them to dock up the ratting ships, just having a neut in system is enough. No Infinity doesn't know. That range Infinity mentions (200-500KM) comes from the error it made early on in this thread. Infinity basically said that someone could be dropping this thing 100Km from a POS, which would sort out the access. When I pointed out that 100Km wasn't possible, Infinity posted the dev blog proving me right (but didn't realise). I pointed out the word 'several'. But instead of acknowledging it's error, it then went on to claim that even though the Devs said several 100KM, it still could be placed 250KM away.
I highly doubt you'll be able to sit these things anywhere near enough, for guns to make a difference. But let's face it, Infinity isn't one for facts and actual figures.
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:15:00 -
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Fix Sov wrote:It doesn't really matter if he's right or wrong, as it's still a char and an account someone has to keep online, doing nothing, and he has to pay attention to both his ratting (or multiple clients ratting) and the char keeping an eye on the ESS, which impacts his efficiency more than the ESS does, which means not dropping the ESS makes more sense than dropping it. I agree, I just find the errors it makes funny as hell.
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Posted - 2014.01.19 14:48:00 -
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Red Teufel wrote:After further review the ESS is good for EvE. It creates more conflict, more player interaction, and more isk opportunities. Could we see the evidence you used, to arrive at these conclusions?
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Posted - 2014.01.19 15:16:00 -
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Fix Sov wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:The dev blog states "several hundred kilometres", the oxford dictionary defines several as "more than two but not many" so its likely less then 500km which would put it in range of manually operated pos guns. And I say "A couple of x" when I mean anything from 2 to, say, 10. Not only that, but common sense would tell you that the reason the Devs mention those structures and limit the distance to them, is because they do not want you to have use of them in conjunction with the ESS.
But for once, Infinity may have guessed correctly.
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