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Pinky Hops
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:09:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:How about we experiment with this ESS first in Highsec. Then if its such a great idea and not just a useless thing no one will put up we can try it in nullsec.
because the purpose of this whole change as stated by CCP Somiwhatever is to reduce nullsec ratting bounties as they have become some sort of out-of-control ISK faucet.
i doubt highsec rats are much of an isk faucet as their bounties suck. |
Pinky Hops
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Posted - 2014.01.16 02:35:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:La Nariz wrote:How about we experiment with this ESS first in Highsec. Then if its such a great idea and not just a useless thing no one will put up we can try it in nullsec. because the purpose of this whole change as stated by CCP Somiwhatever is to reduce nullsec ratting bounties as they have become some sort of out-of-control ISK faucet. i doubt highsec rats are much of an isk faucet as their bounties suck. Oh if that's the case we're already in highsec on our alts running l4s and doing incursions. So that means if they want to nerf nullsec income the ESS needs to be exclusively a highsec thing. It works perfectly that way.
incursions and l4's dont generate a ton of isk. they generate a ton of loyalty points. which can be converted into an income, but they aren't pure isk faucets - or even close. they mostly generate wealth that is sold on the market.
ratting is basically a pure isk faucet.
note i'm not defending the ESS. i think it's a terrible idea - just pointing out some facts. |
Pinky Hops
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Posted - 2014.01.16 04:25:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:incursions and l4's dont generate a ton of isk. Granted, you qualify this statement as "they generate loyalty points instead", but that is still bar none the stupidest thing I have ever heard anyone say on these forums.
what?
so you don't understand the difference between say, a pound of gold, and a wad of cash? you view them as equivalent?
if you mine gold out of the ground - you "create" dollars?.... no - you don't. ...
or are you just being thick on purpose? some sort of troll?
reminds me of this picture:
https://0-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1338/97/1338970066809.png |
Pinky Hops
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Posted - 2014.01.16 15:35:00 -
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Notorious Fellon wrote:Niec Mogul wrote:MasterAsher wrote:Niec Mogul wrote:Here's what will make this thing actually interesting:
Dude undocks to rat somewhere in null, but...what's this? An ESS is deployed? It's not his! He looks at the overview and sees:
* 1.14 AU - Encounter Surveillance System
* 1.14 AU - Mobile Scan Blocker
Uh-oh!! Hmm, he could go ratting anyways, but he's losing 20% of the bounties to someone else. He could warp on over to that ESS and empty it, or blow it up...but...that pesky scan blocker. There could be a pile of baddies in there! Oh no!
What to do, what to do. Call in 100 buddies? Send a cloaky scout? **** pants and dock up? Kiss 20% of the bounties goodbye? Hmm, lots of options.
Should be fun to watch. This thread is already pretty entertaining! Scan blocker doesnt work around the ess... Also local....if there is a non blue who the hell will rat? The blog says the scan blocker won't hide the ESS, but that's the point; you'd see both, but not what's nearby. It doesn't counter local, as you've noted, but I wouldn't put it past anyone to start just ripping off their bluebloc neighbors. I mean ****, why not? Anyone that's ever said "Awox hahaha!" should have no problem with this idea. Said people would soon find themselves unable to dock where the rest of their ships are. It is possible to get kicked from an alliance for less offense. Said tactics only work on noob corps who don't research potential recruits.
Except you can just do it with an anonymous alt?
That's pretty much the status quo, already in nullsec. Who do you think uses most siphon units? Alts stealing from their own alliance mates moons because they know when they aren't around  |
Pinky Hops
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:35:00 -
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Layla Firoue wrote:You know people whine alot these days how to catch ceptors, here is one idee park a cloacked disco BS alt ontop of the ESS structure
That sounds profitable. |
Pinky Hops
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Posted - 2014.01.16 21:17:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Galadriel Vasquez wrote:Can someone with a grasp of plain english and the Queen's grammar please explain succinctly what the deus this ESS is?
Seems to me it's a big nasty box that siphons ISK earnt by the ratters and makes it available for filching?
Kind of like a Mobile Siphon Unit but eats ISK instead of moon goo?
I further deduce that any old tom **** or harry can access it and have away with the content?
Confused. (It doesn't take much)... Ratting bounties nerfed to 95% of current. Don't use one, you get 95%. If you use an ESS, then that goes down to 80%. It will rise slowly at 1%, over a time period dependant upon how much ratting is done. It's maximum target is 105% of current. But the timer resets every time it is accessed. It acts as a bubble 15Km and is open to everyone. Oh and whatever over 80%, is placed into the ESS.
Close.
The money doesn't get placed into the ESS. It gets placed into a bank account attached to that system. If the ESS is destroyed, the money still exists in the bank account.
Redeploying allows you to re-access the bank account.
It's a really really weird/bad thing. It has a lot of strange baggage attached to it. |
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