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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Zysco on 22/03/2006 21:05:45
Ok, serious, non joke, non flame thread about SA:
So I'm flying through stain trying to find a system to NPC in on my alt, as True Sanshas are 4tw and the whole area is fairly deserted. As I'm going around, I've literally seen 5x as many Omega Corp members as SA members, in STAIN.
It feels wrong, yet so right  .
Anyways, I'm wondering a few things. Mainly, just where is the 1000+ members of SA? When were in exuro, I saw I think 2 SA in empire during our war, around keberz. In fact it was so boring that I decided to fly a hauler afk 45 jumps and it made it intact. I also during my time in delve (left 3 days ago) only heard of SA being around by people laughing at how they are even more boring to fight than IMP. And I mean lets be honest here, IMP is pretty much a joke, perhaps partially due to their love of putting 250 II artys on literally every ship, but at least they come and fight every now and then. And local is always hilarious.
So, if BoB's claims (which, lets admit, are dubious due to BoBs impressive propaganda machine) of there being few (or no) SA in Stain, I'm seriously wondering where all those guys are? They aren't in empire, they aren't in Stain, they aren't really in Delve.
Hasn't every new version of SA (SA, SE, Coalition, back to SE, then civil war) been to "kick out the deadweight" or whatever crap is always spun? If SA has 1000+ members, with "no deadweight," then you must have a different definition of deadweight.
If you don't want to risk losing BS/HACs/Whatever, just pull a goonfleet and swarm with 1000+ t1 frigs. Sure, its degrading to be reduced to that, but its better than trying to use the patented "FA defense."
The sad thing in all this is BoB will eventually get bored and claim victory. Unfortunately, I don't think they won't be able to "claim" the SA areas as they are already stretched over a pretty large area (PB, delve, fountain, outer ring). Which means that all the nameless, apparently worthless corps (not talking MASS etc who actually fight) are just going to reform into a new SA, and the cycle will continue.
callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back |
ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:07:00 -
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Furiously clinging to any stations they have as far away from bob as possible i assume.
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:07:00 -
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woot another sa thread
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:08:00 -
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Go away slothe, posting before me is an offence punishible by death by WCS fitted ship.
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Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:09:00 -
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A serious thread Drunk?! How am I supposed to troll now? 
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:09:00 -
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 Originally by: slothe
woot another sa thread
The 10 page one earlier gave me like 20 mins of distraction during work, i figure this one can last a bit until it turns into a massive flamefest.
callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back |
Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:09:00 -
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this whole affair illustrates just 1 thing once more, namely that NPC stations in 0.0 suck
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Mag's
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zysco
Edited by: Zysco on 22/03/2006 21:05:45
Ok, serious, non joke, non flame thread about SA:
So I'm flying through stain trying to find a system to NPC in on my alt, as True Sanshas are 4tw and the whole area is fairly deserted. As I'm going around, I've literally seen 5x as many Omega Corp members as SA members, in STAIN.
It feels wrong, yet so right .
Anyways, I'm wondering a few things. Mainly, just where is the 1000+ members of SA? When were in exuro, I saw I think 2 SA in empire during our war, around keberz. In fact it was so boring that I decided to fly a hauler afk 45 jumps and it made it intact. I also during my time in delve (left 3 days ago) only heard of SA being around by people laughing at how they are even more boring to fight than IMP. And I mean lets be honest here, IMP is pretty much a joke, perhaps partially due to their love of putting 250 II artys on literally every ship, but at least they come and fight every now and then. And local is always hilarious.
So, if BoB's claims (which, lets admit, are dubious due to BoBs impressive propaganda machine) of there being few (or no) SA in Stain, I'm seriously wondering where all those guys are? They aren't in empire, they aren't in Stain, they aren't really in Delve.
Hasn't every new version of SA (SA, SE, Coalition, back to SE, then civil war) been to "kick out the deadweight" or whatever crap is always spun? If SA has 1000+ members, with "no deadweight," then you must have a different definition of deadweight.
If you don't want to risk losing BS/HACs/Whatever, just pull a goonfleet and swarm with 1000+ t1 frigs. Sure, its degrading to be reduced to that, but its better than trying to use the patented "FA defense."
The sad thing in all this is BoB will eventually get bored and claim victory. Unfortunately, I don't think they won't be able to "claim" the SA areas as they are already stretched over a pretty large area (PB, delve, fountain, outer ring). Which means that all the nameless, apparently worthless corps (not talking MASS etc who actually fight) are just going to reform into a new SA, and the cycle will continue.
Good god man, didn't you know Stain was over run with BoB.
Get with the program. 
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Emilia Hussain
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:15:00 -
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I've been in a few 100+ member SA gangs, so I would'nt know what you're talking about. I just had a little visit to SA killboards and it had pages of recent kills. When flying through Catch, I see SA members each and every time.
So I believe you're talking crap. Have a nice day
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Joan Smith
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Emilia Hussain
I've been in a few 100+ member SA gangs, so I would'nt know what you're talking about. I just had a little visit to SA killboards and it had pages of recent kills. When flying through Catch, I see SA members each and every time.
So I believe you're talking crap. Have a nice day
what he/she said
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SeverusSnape
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:21:00 -
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You could go through any 0.0 region and not see anyone in local, omg wtf?
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Emilia Hussain
I've been in a few 100+ member SA gangs, so I would'nt know what you're talking about. I just had a little visit to SA killboards and it had pages of recent kills. When flying through Catch, I see SA members each and every time.
So I believe you're talking crap. Have a nice day
SA lets members of the Imperial Academy join their gangs? They must be more desperate than I thought.
callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back |
Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:22:00 -
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i didnt have a 100+ fleetfight since the new servers came up, would b great if it would happen anytime soon.
doubt it tho.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:22:00 -
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100+ SA gangs? When was this? 1979?
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: SeverusSnape
You could go through any 0.0 region and not see anyone in local, omg wtf?
Hi, read my post? I see lots of people in local. They just aren't SA.
callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back |
Emilia Hussain
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:28:00 -
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Edited by: Emilia Hussain on 22/03/2006 21:30:50
I am ofcource posting with an alt as I'm not allowed to post with my main. I also couldnt resist posting, couse anyone in the know are having a good laugh about the rediculous postings done by certain ppl
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100+ SA gangs? When was this? 1979?
4 months ago, when SA overall numbers where even lower. Things might have changed since then, but I doubt it
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Cuebick on 22/03/2006 21:35:44
We have a remote region control.
PS. This will turn into a flame festival.
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Imode
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:34:00 -
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When it was all out empire war against them, they ran to their NPC stations.
Now that BoB has come down to their region, they've run to Agil and dec'd us. Basically they stay around there all day except for a few who sit cloaked in one or two Querious systems.
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BadManEdmundo
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Emilia Hussain
I am ofcource posting with an alt as I'm not allowed to post with my main.
Hahahahahaha
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Emilia Hussain
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:38:00 -
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Rules and regulations you know...gotta love em
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: Emilia Hussain
Edited by: Emilia Hussain on 22/03/2006 21:30:50
I am ofcource posting with an alt as I'm not allowed to post with my main. I also couldnt resist posting, couse anyone in the know are having a good laugh about the rediculous postings done by certain ppl
i had to laugh at myself cause I like forgot I had been accused of being an alt and then kind of admitted to it, even though it wasn't me. Most noobish thing ever, well at least it doesn't demoralize SA if I say it was me.
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Marko Debreault
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Posted - 2006.03.22 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
this whole affair illustrates just 1 thing once more, namely that NPC stations in 0.0 suck
During the Coalition-FIX war, MASS moved down to Querious and logged off all over the place. Its a convenience for them to have stations, but it doesn't change all that much.
I hope that at some point there is an option to get rid of NPC stations in regions. Launch a bunch of outposts in the same constellation or something, then assault them with your dreads and hope that the events folks are watching so they can zap in a bunch of NPC dreads and stuff to fight you.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.22 22:53:00 -
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go team marko!:D
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IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2006.03.22 22:53:00 -
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the mods selection of whats fit and what not for DELETION or locking never stops to amaze.
This thread, being a anti- sa thread will keep going when others get locked or deleted before even starting.
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DeadProphet
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:16:00 -
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quoted for truth!
>>When it was all out empire war against them, they ran to their NPC stations.
Now that BoB has come down to their region, they've run to Agil and dec'd us. Basically they stay around there all day except for a few who sit cloaked in one or two Querious systems.
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King Chong
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:24:00 -
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From what i remember they war dec'd you ages ago.. you arent dec'd now!
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: IcedBach Jr
the mods selection of whats fit and what not for DELETION or locking never stops to amaze.
This thread, being a anti- sa thread will keep going when others get locked or deleted before even starting.
How is it an "anti- SA thread? Just because I am wondering where your 1000+ members are doesn't mean I am flaming. Its just general observations and a question about those observations.
callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back |
King Chong
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: IcedBach Jr
the mods selection of whats fit and what not for DELETION or locking never stops to amaze.
This thread, being a anti- sa thread will keep going when others get locked or deleted before even starting.
How is it an "anti- SA thread? Just because I am wondering where your 1000+ members are doesn't mean I am flaming. Its just general observations and a question about those observations.
They are "dead" remember, bit hard to see dead people
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Xelios
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: King Chong
Originally by: Zysco
Originally by: IcedBach Jr
the mods selection of whats fit and what not for DELETION or locking never stops to amaze.
This thread, being a anti- sa thread will keep going when others get locked or deleted before even starting.
How is it an "anti- SA thread? Just because I am wondering where your 1000+ members are doesn't mean I am flaming. Its just general observations and a question about those observations.
They are "dead" remember, bit hard to see dead people
Oh no.... I see 146 dead people in my alliance chat right now!!! HELP ME!!!!
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected])
Woot.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:46:00 -
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Actually, if people read carefully they will see it's not really an anti-SA topic. I'm not really a fan of BoB as they take things too seriously for my liking, but i don't have any kind of hatred against them either. But in any case, the following should have convinced people that the OP is at least trying to be impartial (and succeeds in it imo), even though he was up till recently a member of an alliance closely tied to BoB:
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So, if BoB's claims (which, lets admit, are dubious due to BoBs impressive propaganda machine)
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The sad thing in all this is BoB will eventually get bored and claim victory.
Aside from that and slightly off topic, i wouldn't want to see NPC stations disappear. This will force everyone and their grandmother to run POS and not everyone likes that kind of stuff. I do agree that lack of NPC stations will prove the worthiness of some alliances to hold space.
On the other hand a lot of people who have no interest in claiming space will be effectively cut off from 0.0 space. This will lead to them joining big established groups who have mastered territorial control, effectively negating the recently implemented move towards smaller groups and more diversity. Either that or they will be forced to camp a chokepoint and venture a couple more jumps into 0.0 as they will have no effective way to setup a temporary base in 0.0
In the long run this will force the game towards either more ice mining or more boring gatecamping and definitely in any case more blobs.At least now if some nice gentlemen with short attention spans (like us ) just want to go out and have fun killing some and losing some, they can go to all these nice places like Syndicate, Venal, Stain and Curse, select a cosy NPC station as a temporary base of operations and do their thing for a couple of weeks.
I would hate to see this open-ended game (EvE's biggest appeal to most imho) start moving towards elitist grounds. I don't care about holding 0.0 space, but i want to be able to live there occassionaly and get a couple of fights without being forced to join a megablob or camping the gate to empire with a sniping tempest. After all, NPC stations come with the balancing disadvantage that your enemies can use them as well. It might be hard to dislodge an enemy living in an NPC region, but you get the advantage that you can sneak in supplies to the same station they stage from and totally mess up their operations.
Originally by: Black Lotus
I vote u for KIA spokesperson.
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Chib
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Marko Debreault
Originally by: Tiuwaz
this whole affair illustrates just 1 thing once more, namely that NPC stations in 0.0 suck
During the Coalition-FIX war, MASS moved down to Querious and logged off all over the place. Its a convenience for them to have stations, but it doesn't change all that much.
I hope that at some point there is an option to get rid of NPC stations in regions. Launch a bunch of outposts in the same constellation or something, then assault them with your dreads and hope that the events folks are watching so they can zap in a bunch of NPC dreads and stuff to fight you.
lets not forget marko that that war started when fix swooned in and took FAT-6P with 100-110 pilots and the war ended with the coalition holding FAT and setting up a POS in h74 about to launch an assault on that station, all of a sudden BOB gets involved saying back off fix or we'll jump in on their side, Stain approaches us and asks us to come back to stain, then the some of the coalition decided to end the war, cujo was crowned emperor and everyone else was left think WTF?!?
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:17:00 -
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they already beat eve and dont want to spend any more quarters cus its boring already.
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HollyWood69
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:18:00 -
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Whats the big deal with NPC stations? Its not like BoB dont have them in 3 of there 4 regions.
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Nelson Vandermark
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: HollyWood69
Whats the big deal with NPC stations? Its not like BoB dont have them in 3 of there 4 regions.
Nope they only have 3 now outer ring belongs to NORAD now. check map thread sticky
gj norad
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Revolution
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:25:00 -
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FYI
The SA in delve consists of around 7 pilots, possibly one or two more.
They seem to be on some kind of npcing mission, not particularly interested in pvping.
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Lisa Run
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:49:00 -
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@Blackdog fully agree, and besides that, conquering stations can be boring, too. I'm doing this soverenity ping-pong for some time now. Shooting pos into reinforced, killing pos, set up own pos, camp system for 6-10 hours non-stop, going to bed, next afternoon new enemy pos, meet with dread fleet on next day, kill poses, camp system for hours and not much happens and so on.
And npc space is really perfect for independent corps and small alliances. I like that.
Alliance X can't just come with a big blob from 40 jumps away, throw the inhabitants out with their overwhelming force and leave again. In npc space only regional conflicts between the inhabitants matter. They can be good friends or make your life miserable, because you meet them everyday. They decide if your corp survives there or has to leave.
Think that's what frustrates big alliances. Their blobbing and thrashing everything in one big blow doesn't work against small groups in npc space. The only thing that actually drives someone out of npc space is a stronger opponent, that is present there over many weeks. These are usually people, who want the area for themselves, not just a big alliance that wants to erradicate someone in a war and leave again.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:54:00 -
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90% of our kills are in gangs of 8 or less, if you call a blob ~8 pilots,and can't cant match that, well...
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Lisa Run
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:04:00 -
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Edited by: Lisa Run on 23/03/2006 02:11:46
Originally by: Revolution
90% of our kills are in gangs of 8 or less, if you call a blob ~8 pilots,and can't cant match that, well...
If you mean me, I was more generally speaking about, what I like about npc regions.
SA is a big alliance, so they don't need the bonus of npc stations. They could surely come with 50 people gangs or more, if I look at their size. I have more a heart for the small groups, who just want to have fun in their little area of 0.0 without being smashed by the major alliances.
SA is/was a major player, if they hide with there 1000 people or how many they have, then yes, that's really weak for a big alliance with a big name.
P.S.: I preferred to write with an alt, because I'm in a major alliance myself now and don't know how much sympathy I get for feeling with the smaller groups in 0.0.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:43:00 -
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FIX primary BOB secondary. WE fight how we like you cry...whine.. no matter :) we have'n fun. hope you have'n fun blobing a npc station.
you think smacking make us change our style...the style that makes you smack so much? :) ok tell you wat adapt. if you can't... sucks for you. have a nice day.
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Marko Debreault
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Chib
lets not forget marko that that war started when fix swooned in and took FAT-6P with 100-110 pilots and the war ended with the coalition holding FAT and setting up a POS in h74 about to launch an assault on that station, all of a sudden BOB gets involved saying back off fix or we'll jump in on their side, Stain approaches us and asks us to come back to stain, then the some of the coalition decided to end the war, cujo was crowned emperor and everyone else was left think WTF?!?
Thats close to how I recall it ending, although what ended the war was the Coalition rejoining SA. There are people who were part of that diplomatic process who know exactly how and why it happened, but to me it has always appeared that the Coalition was rejoining SA because it couldn't take any more.
As for BoB getting involved, they asked us not to fight SA/Coalition since they still liked SA. They were not at all on FIX's side; they were firmly in the middle.
This is pretty long dead history in terms of EVE politics. If you want to debate that stuff lets keep it friendly.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: HellsRazor
FIX primary BOB secondary. WE fight how we like you cry...whine.. no matter :) we have'n fun. hope you have'n fun blobing a npc station.
you think smacking make us change our style...the style that makes you smack so much? :) ok tell you wat adapt. if you can't... sucks for you. have a nice day.
So what you are saying is, you enjoy sitting in npc stations?
Really, its hurting, hurting bad.
SA - Station Alliance?
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Revolution
Originally by: HellsRazor
FIX primary BOB secondary. WE fight how we like you cry...whine.. no matter :) we have'n fun. hope you have'n fun blobing a npc station.
you think smacking make us change our style...the style that makes you smack so much? :) ok tell you wat adapt. if you can't... sucks for you. have a nice day.
So what you are saying is, you enjoy sitting in npc stations?
Really, its hurting, hurting bad.
SA - Station Alliance?
noo STATION ALLAINCE
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: Revolution
Originally by: HellsRazor
FIX primary BOB secondary. WE fight how we like you cry...whine.. no matter :) we have'n fun. hope you have'n fun blobing a npc station.
you think smacking make us change our style...the style that makes you smack so much? :) ok tell you wat adapt. if you can't... sucks for you. have a nice day.
So what you are saying is, you enjoy sitting in npc stations?
Really, its hurting, hurting bad.
SA - Station Alliance?
yet another smack tard that doesnt look at thier own kill boards..... sheesh can you even do alil research or talking smack all you do?
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:07:00 -
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yet again proof i have uber ammo that kills bobbits while docked
or for that matter died docked
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Svetlanna
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:08:00 -
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agreed with Marco here.
Let's STOP this retarded ungrown smalk that invade forums and local chats and let's have fun killing each other please.
NM what, NOONE can denie that both sides are taking some losses. And if you are interested in statistic, just stop being narrow minded and check your enemy killboard for a closer to reality picture, as Kills tracks are definitely more fothen posted there rather than losses.
Now this beeing said, enjoy PVP and enough 10 years old never ending arguments...
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Revolution
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: HellsRazor
yet again proof i have uber ammo that kills bobbits while docked
or for that matter died docked
hey pal, your the one who stated a few posts up you enjoy us camping you in stations..
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:21:00 -
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Just pointing out the obvious, but any alliance that refuses to own conquerable stations is also refusing themselves a large part of the teamwork thats involved in being an alliance.
What reason do people have to form a gang in npc-controlled 0.0 space? I can take a character into Stain, Venal, Pureblind, Delve, Curse, etc and survive on my own. Probably make a fair bit of cash. I'm sure that there are SA in Stain, along with the 50 other factions, but you won't find them on the main travel routes. And they'll probably be operating alone, or with a couple of corpmates just like everyone else out there who is watching their own backs.
The largest benefit of joining an alliance like SA is the fact that you no longer become a target for the 20 other corporations in it. Thats about it. Common PVP is not required to survive, ideas of conquest are farfetched. Really, is it that much of a shock they don't fly together?
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Dollas
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:57:00 -
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Edited by: Dollas on 23/03/2006 03:58:04
Originally by: Svetlanna
agreed with Marco here.
Let's STOP this retarded ungrown smalk that invade forums and local chats and let's have fun killing each other please.
NM what, NOONE can denie that both sides are taking some losses. And if you are interested in statistic, just stop being narrow minded and check your enemy killboard for a closer to reality picture, as Kills tracks are definitely more fothen posted there rather than losses.
Now this beeing said, enjoy PVP and enough 10 years old never ending arguments...
You know what Svetlana, I was thinking to myself, hmm you are pretty smart and intellegent. But then I remembered something. You started this smacktastic thread right here
Why don't you try listening to what you preach for once.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:13:00 -
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eat a cookie... screw it look me up at www.killboard.net thats bob board for those that dont know.
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Revolution
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: HellsRazor
eat a cookie... screw it look me up at www.killboard.net thats bob board for those that dont know.
Stain Alliance
Kills - 465
Losses - 964
I didnt bother looking up your personal stats, this is a multiplayer game.
Next?
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:42:00 -
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Edited by: HellsRazor on 23/03/2006 04:42:50
Originally by: Revolution
Originally by: HellsRazor
eat a cookie... screw it look me up at www.killboard.net thats bob board for those that dont know.
Stain Alliance
Kills - 465
Losses - 964
I didnt bother looking up your personal stats, this is a multiplayer game.
o o ok look at ships :) check isk 100 pod vs hacs? bs vs isk? tell me you killed uber bs and lost 1 hac please o please.... you nothing
Next?
dude look at Hellsrazor look me up... tell me im noob go ahead
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:44:00 -
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lol look at ships worth isk tell me isk cost then i believe you
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Revolution
Originally by: HellsRazor
eat a cookie... screw it look me up at www.killboard.net thats bob board for those that dont know.
Stain Alliance
Kills - 465
Losses - 964
I didnt bother looking up your personal stats, this is a multiplayer game.
Next?
ooooo how many bs you kill? go ahead tell us... how many hac you lose or recon? :) isk is isk :) blah blah blah im a blober with nothing to gank boo hoo
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: TWD on 23/03/2006 04:51:10
Originally by: HellsRazor
ooooo how many bs you kill? go ahead tell us... how many hac you lose or recon? :) isk is isk :) blah blah blah im a blober with nothing to gank boo hoo
Stop the sillyness about blobbing man.
SA has as many people as BoB.
When I read about 100 pilot SA fleets 4 months ago and over 100 people in alliance chat I wonder - where are they?
We do not see any SA fleet in either Delve or Stain.
That is the point, ofcourse there are some people in SA looking for a fight either in a small gang or alone but there is no organized resistance against BoB.
After all the posts by SA members about us needing to bring it to SA, this does not look very good for SA does it? |
Liet Traep
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:53:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
this whole affair illustrates just 1 thing once more, namely that NPC stations in 0.0 suck
Nope npc stations are great. If all stations were conquerable there'd be nothing from keeping a small group of a couple of alliances from controlling those stations and there'd be no room for the independts and small time operators.As it is anyone with the testicular fortitude can brave 0.0 and find themselves a home in delve, fountain, stain or syndicate. It'll be dangerous but at least they'd have a place to dock.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:07:00 -
[56]
Originally by: TWD
Edited by: TWD on 23/03/2006 04:51:10
Originally by: HellsRazor
ooooo how many bs you kill? go ahead tell us... how many hac you lose or recon? :) isk is isk :) blah blah blah im a blober with nothing to gank boo hoo
Stop the sillyness about blobbing man.
SA has as many people as BoB.
When I read about 100 pilot SA fleets 4 months ago and over 100 people in alliance chat I wonder - where are they?
We do not see any SA fleet in either Delve or Stain.
That is the point, ofcourse there are some people in SA looking for a fight either in a small gang or alone but there is no organized resistance against BoB.
After all the posts by SA members about us needing to bring it to SA, this does not look very good for SA does it?
ok ok thats it WE know how you fight... get mad.. we gain numbers. i respect afew of you... and tbh i was very unhappy i was called out as a non-fighter... but do as you please even according to your board what previously said by dbp is wrong at a single point towards me..... am i wrong? i give respect where its due but do not call me out is all i ask. i stand by all my brothers in stain but when im singled out its personal right? so back wat you say when single'n anyone out
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:17:00 -
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Originally by: Liet Traep
Originally by: Tiuwaz
this whole affair illustrates just 1 thing once more, namely that NPC stations in 0.0 suck
Nope npc stations are great. If all stations were conquerable there'd be nothing from keeping a small group of a couple of alliances from controlling those stations and there'd be no room for the independts and small time operators.As it is anyone with the testicular fortitude can brave 0.0 and find themselves a home in delve, fountain, stain or syndicate. It'll be dangerous but at least they'd have a place to dock.
i can live with small npc territories and a few npc station like in Pure Blind or Geminate, but i abhorre huge NPC regions like Venal and Stain with many, many NPC stations.
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:26:00 -
[58]
" I ate a chocolate squirrel" www.interexodus.com
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:46:00 -
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Wow, Ive never seen someone post three times in a row in an attempt to reply to one single post. cool...
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:53:00 -
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Edited by: HellsRazor on 23/03/2006 05:54:32
i guess you cant count in a row :)... smack me... bring it...
i STILL KILL YOU ALL. BLAH BLAH BLAH... you aint SH@T :) smack away loook at enemy boards you dont even have to look at SA :)
have fought.... the rest... eat a head ;p
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BirdBleed
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:57:00 -
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someone get the mapped changed to show stain as being in bobs hands 8) If stain isnt willing to fight for it theres no need to have it as being contested 8)
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:09:00 -
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How on earth HellsRazor manages to post on the forums, let alone tie his shoes when he puts them on, I do not know. Truly his posts are a testament to the infinite stupidity of the human race.
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:17:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Righteous Fury
How on earth HellsRazor manages to post on the forums, let alone tie his shoes when he puts them on, I do not know. Truly his posts are a testament to the infinite stupidity of the human race.
No click yet? or is this considered constructive ?
I cant find Stain in space, wonder y?
So Far So Good....So What |
Baun
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:24:00 -
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Great job to the op on a "non flame thread"
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Rael Anshak
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:42:00 -
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Yes what is left of stain is in delve, they run around in warp core stabbed ECMing cruisers ganking careless npcers/miners. In almost all major engagements bob have come out far ontop. The once mighty SA has turned into a 6 man gang hopping around systems looking for lone miners and when a force, even of equal size shows up, they run/dock/log.
This is not waging war on BoB. Far from it. Your not getting anymore kills than a small pirate corp operating out of a few low sec systems. If you wna see what we are capable amass what is left of your alliance and come try and take nol station. Thats a dare...
And to the question of where is SA... Mostly I see them spread out NPCing alone in random dead end systems while they're alliance dies, they're core pvpers are in delve, all 6 of them. And the rest of their wanna be pvpers are in agil,camping the station waiting for careless fix members to show up or begging for 1v1s in local.
GG SA.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:53:00 -
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hehe www.killboard.net :) look at hellsrazor or go www.interexodus.com look me up. i care less wat you wanna be PVP'r smacktards think... eat it :)
"What you lack in skill you make up for in smack and numbers" but what? am i hide'n behind bob boards aswell?
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FrioBebe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:54:00 -
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Bobbits thank you for making my game worthwile. Thank you for defining me and who I am, as you know we stainers are of a lower breed and need your help.
First i was told my alliance would die in less than a week, then some bandwagon came rolling. And the explanation of that was we were not worthy, as we are flying t1 frigs.
Then i was told by the very same bobbits, that we still were not worthy of a fight cause you Lords had better things to do.
Now all of a sudden I am worthy of a fight. For that i thank you bobbits. Thank you for defining who we are. We wouldn't know if it were not for you.
I feel alot like a t2 Stainer now. <3
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlanna
agreed with Marco here.
Let's STOP this retarded ungrown smalk that invade forums and local chats and let's have fun killing each other please.
Hi,
You started the smak. We'll continue it until you start bringing it.
It's fun to fight.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:03:00 -
[69]
Originally by: FrioBebe
Bobbits thank you for making my game worthwile. Thank you for defining me and who I am, as you know we stainers are of a lower breed and need your help.
First i was told my alliance would die in less than a week, then some bandwagon came rolling. And the explanation of that was we were not worthy, as we are flying t1 frigs.
Then i was told by the very same bobbits, that we still were not worthy of a fight cause you Lords had better things to do.
Now all of a sudden I am worthy of a fight. For that i thank you bobbits. Thank you for defining who we are. We wouldn't know if it were not for you.
I feel alot like a t2 Stainer now. <3
Does that mean we're actually going to see you and your lemons turn up and fight then?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:03:00 -
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:) i eat chocolate squirrels :)
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FrioBebe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:12:00 -
[71]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Does that mean we're actually going to see you and your lemons turn up and fight then?
dbp
DianaBolic, post with your main 
Im a Lover, not a fighter <3
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Colje
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:14:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Colje on 23/03/2006 08:14:46
Originally by: DB Preacher
Originally by: FrioBebe
Bobbits thank you for making my game worthwile. Thank you for defining me and who I am, as you know we stainers are of a lower breed and need your help.
First i was told my alliance would die in less than a week, then some bandwagon came rolling. And the explanation of that was we were not worthy, as we are flying t1 frigs.
Then i was told by the very same bobbits, that we still were not worthy of a fight cause you Lords had better things to do.
Now all of a sudden I am worthy of a fight. For that i thank you bobbits. Thank you for defining who we are. We wouldn't know if it were not for you.
I feel alot like a t2 Stainer now. <3
Does that mean we're actually going to see you and your lemons turn up and fight then?
dbp
I just have to... DB Preacher LAST kills
Last kill in Z3V-1W (15-09-2005 19:01:00) and thats for DB Preacher....show us the guns or dont talk at all.
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:24:00 -
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Edited by: Aloysius Knight on 23/03/2006 08:24:59
Wow heelsrazer or what ever his name is (Who cares really?),
is sure on his way to becoming a Bob fanboy
so you have more kills then deaths who gives a ****?
your allaince is hiding in npc stations and really tbh the only reson why your still able to operate out of stain, becuase if they were all concruable stations this would have been over in a week or 2.
(PS can you mail me your shirt size so i can get a "BOB Fanboy" Shirt ready for you mmmk?)
Haha can't touch this! |
HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:30:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Edited by: Aloysius Knight on 23/03/2006 08:24:59
Wow heelsrazer or what ever his name is (Who cares really?),
is sure on his way to becoming a Bob fanboy
so you have more kills then deaths who gives a ****?
your allaince is hiding in npc stations and really tbh the only reson why your still able to operate out of stain, becuase if they were all concruable stations this would have been over in a week or 2.
(PS can you mail me your shirt size so i can get a "BOB Fanboy" Shirt ready for you mmmk?)
who cares... again another that does not research before they smack... read your fellow brothers that called me out.. i gave a sh@t but if you notice from other forum posts i was called out.. again who are you? ...hhmmm... or hook me up with a large shirt :)
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:37:00 -
[75]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Hi,
You started the smak. We'll continue it until you start bringing it.
It's fun to fight.
dbp
Your not hurting us in game DB, BOB doesnt know how to hurt SA.
And I am not talking about a killboard statistic... MASS is hurting you everynight
You just can't see it yet.
Please I need Attention! |
Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:39:00 -
[76]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: DB Preacher
Hi,
You started the smak. We'll continue it until you start bringing it.
It's fun to fight.
dbp
Your not hurting us in game DB, BOB doesnt know how to hurt SA.
And I am not talking about a killboard statistic... MASS is hurting you everynight
You just can't see it yet.
pacifica = thebold ?
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Colje
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:40:00 -
[77]
Edited by: Colje on 23/03/2006 08:40:36
Edited by: Colje on 23/03/2006 08:40:16
Another thing, I counted the kills manually per corp from both sides during this war FROM YOUR KILLBOARD.
SA - 1092
Bob - 1025
but your total shows something else...I am curious, why big difference? 465/964 is far from valid...
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:44:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Tiuwaz
pacifica = thebold ?
? Could you explain what you meant?
Please I need Attention! |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:44:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Colje
I just have to... DB Preacher LAST kills
Last kill in Z3V-1W (15-09-2005 19:01:00) and thats for DB Preacher....show us the guns or dont talk at all.
One other thing..it says "SA Campaign" on the top, and still DB preacher has counts from september 2005???? when we were acctually blue? Anyone see anything wrong here.
Let the smackfeast begin.
You fool.
Do an agent search on DB Preacher. You'll find him in Empire happily doing agent missions while my alts pvp down south.
Trying to pull numbers on me will seriously make you look stupid and killboard links are against the rules for this very reason.
My BoB alliance mates know what pvp I am putting in and what I am doing for the alliance. Can your alliance mates feel the same way?
Seriously, you lemons are going to sit there and talk crap on the forums all day then please bring it.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:44:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Colje
Edited by: Colje on 23/03/2006 08:40:36
Edited by: Colje on 23/03/2006 08:40:16
Another thing, I counted the kills manually per corp from both sides during this war FROM YOUR KILLBOARD.
SA - 1092
Bob - 1025
but your total shows something else...I am curious, why big difference? 465/964 is far from valid...
Colje please dont bring up the subject of killboards... =( they will say our killboards uber.. no wait yours is more uber and my daddy is bigger than yours
Here comes the spin!:(
Please I need Attention! |
thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:45:00 -
[81]
Originally by: DB Preacher
You fool.
Do an agent search on DB Preacher. You'll find him in Empire happily doing agent missions while my alts pvp down south.
Seriously, you lemons are going to sit there and talk crap on the forums all day then please bring it.
dbp
I reqoute myself.
We are hurting you... Just just can't (Heres the clue) SEE IT.
Please I need Attention! |
Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:46:00 -
[82]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Tiuwaz
pacifica = thebold ?
? Could you explain what you meant?
sorry when i read your post i just had a dejavu from pacifica when he was in PA and posting on eve-o similar stuff
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:47:00 -
[83]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: DB Preacher
You fool.
Do an agent search on DB Preacher. You'll find him in Empire happily doing agent missions while my alts pvp down south.
Seriously, you lemons are going to sit there and talk crap on the forums all day then please bring it.
dbp
I reqoute myself.
We are hurting you... Just just can't (Heres the clue) SEE IT.
Rofl,
No you really are not.
But knuckle down dude, got another year of being camped into yz9.
enjoy.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:47:00 -
[84]
Edited by: TWD on 23/03/2006 08:48:32
Originally by: Colje
Edited by: Colje on 23/03/2006 08:40:16
Another thing, I counted the kills manually per corp from both sides during this war FROM YOUR KILLBOARD.
SA - 1092
Bob - 1025
but your total shows something else...I am curious, why big difference? 465/964 is far from valid...
2 corporations can participate in the same kill and will be counted as 2 points in your total and 1 point in the corporation total.
Our killboard is _pretty_ accurate and I believe almost all of our battleship losses are posted.
I'm sorry but the SA that have shown up have been beaten hard by BoB in the last weeks.
Remember that these kills are mostly in small engagements and kills on their people NPCing since SA still refuses to form an organized gang against BoB.
These are the battleship kills / losses against SA (final blows) for the last week:
8-1
4-0
4-1
4-1
1-0
8-0
5-2
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34-5 o_0
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HellsRazor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:50:00 -
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sorry... but dbp i thought you called me out? whos your pvp main? you know im a pvp main.... seriously i try to stay away from forums latley but you flamed me by name in your other thread.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:51:00 -
[86]
Edited by: thebold on 23/03/2006 08:53:35
Originally by: DB Preacher
I reqoute myself.
We are hurting you... Just just can't (Heres the clue) SEE IT.
Rofl,
No you really are not.
But knuckle down dude, got another year of being camped into yz9.
enjoy.
dbp
Then its true.. You really are in empire doing nothing to help your alliance..
Every night we leave yz9 and attack anyone we want.. sure shrike chased us last night but then again he bought the wrong ship types trying despret to get a fight..
I can see it in all your pilots now, But please could I ask the bob leadership to refrain there pilots from bringing up serious illness's in local chat.. I don't care who you are or what youve done in the game its a breach of the game rules and should not be tolorated by anyone and even Shrike and TWD where both in local when this happened
Im truly shocked at the behavouir or some bob pilots at the moment.. and also sir Is death Wing homo erectus alt? Dam that guy really is a fruit cake in local
Edit:A petition was raised by one of our pilots as he did take this very sieriously on TS even though he was drunk.
Please I need Attention! |
Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:59:00 -
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Originally by: theboldWe are hurting you... Just just can't (Heres the clue) SEE IT.[/quote
ohh dude i love you, you tell such great storys
hug me!!!
Haha can't touch this! |
TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:02:00 -
[88]
Originally by: thebold
I reqoute myself.
We are hurting you... Just just can't (Heres the clue) SEE IT.
There is no grand strategy, and no you are not hurting us, even Imperium is more active than SA in delve which I already stated.
SA's strategy is to avoid fighting BoB in a straight up fight. SA have simply allowed us to blow up their POS. Even with the same amount of people SA does not even try to engage BoB in an organized matter. Their big plan is to bore BoB, try and gank any pilot friendly to BoB and think they get to us by doing that.
Thebold, I think you're sad and dragging your alliance down with this. |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:02:00 -
[89]
Originally by: thebold
Then its true.. You really are in empire doing nothing to help your alliance..
No, it's not.
Originally by: thebold
Every night we leave yz9 and attack anyone we want.. sure shrike chased us last night but then again he bought the wrong ship types trying despret to get a fight..
You left last night in 6 frigates and were chased all the way to period basis. Grats, that truly must be an achievement for you to write up in your war journal.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:12:00 -
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If everyone flaming you, telling, that you are noob, your alliance is dead, your corp insignificant - then you are doing something right
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Logged in a system, next to you =) |
TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:15:00 -
[91]
Originally by: FrioBebe
When can I be a bob fanboi? What does it take to deserve that title? Do you need a higher count of green bottles than TWD in local?
Heh :D
Green bottle thing was counting down the SA members logging off. |
DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:17:00 -
[92]
Originally by: FrioBebe
Originally by: TWD
Thebold, I think you're sad and dragging your alliance down with this.
And the lucky winner is thebold. Congratulations, last time it was OrcA.
Where do i get in on the lottery?
When can I be a bob fanboi? What does it take to deserve that title? Do you need a higher count of green bottles than TWD in local?
Hi,
Your application for a BoB Fanboi membership has been DENIED.
The reason stated by the RKK database is excessive whining and inability for your fruitcake-wannabee corporation to place guns on thier ships.
Thanks for your continued interest in our alliance.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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FrioBebe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:26:00 -
[93]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Hi,
Your application for a BoB Fanboi membership has been DENIED.
The reason stated by the RKK database is excessive whining and inability for your fruitcake-wannabee corporation to place guns on thier ships.
Thanks for your continued interest in our alliance.
dbp
Oh, thanks for enlightening me, thats why it say (shiptype) on my killmails. I thought bumping and humping your ships with fresh bakery was a legit way of fighting. How wrong can a poor wannabobbit be...
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:32:00 -
[94]
Edited by: TWD on 23/03/2006 09:34:53
Originally by: FrioBebe
Oh, thanks for enlightening me, thats why it say (shiptype) on my killmails. I thought bumping and humping your ships with fresh bakery was a legit way of fighting. How wrong can a poor wannabobbit be...
lols nayway tell me, how many killmails did you receive in fights against BoB?
As far as I can see you received 0 killmails of ships piloted by BoB members, or am I wrong? |
FrioBebe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:43:00 -
[95]
Originally by: TWD
lols nayway tell me, how many killmails did you receive in fights against BoB?
As far as I can see you received 0 killmails of ships piloted by BoB members, or am I wrong?
Sorry TWD, i was referring to participations.
I guess my cakes taste so bittersweet, that they wont lead to any final blows.. :(
But now that you lot have teached me about shipfitting, it will hopefully change
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:51:00 -
[96]
Originally by: TWD
lols nayway tell me, how many killmails did you receive in fights against BoB?
A question to you or DB...
Your mentality is based on a kill board fixated on the fact that a kill board is what kills a alliance and also a way of measuring success in the way of inflicting xbillions of damage.. Do you believe this to be true?
My second question is,
Do you hope by using the forums (propaganda) you think you could achieve damaging the individual corp within SA or do you feel that this is the only place where you can fight us and judge us by where you amplify our tactics and show the eve lot that æwe are really lameÆ?
If you believe the second question to be trueà Please do some history (on the forums) to the other alliances we have fought in the last 1 + years :)
Please I need Attention! |
Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:53:00 -
[97]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: TWD
lols nayway tell me, how many killmails did you receive in fights against BoB?
A question to you or DB...
Your mentality is based on a kill board fixated on the fact that a kill board is what kills a alliance and also a way of measuring success in the way of inflicting xbillions of damage.. Do you believe this to be true?
My second question is,
Do you hope by using the forums (propaganda) you think you could achieve damaging the individual corp within SA or do you feel that this is the only place where you can fight us and judge us by where you amplify our tactics and show the eve lot that æwe are really lameÆ?
If you believe the second question to be trueà Please do some history (on the forums) to the other alliances we have fought in the last 1 + years :)
Do you seriously believe that not being logged on to Eve or sitting in NPC stations is going to help you win this war that you started?
Eve Blacklight Style
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:54:00 -
[98]
Originally by: FrioBebe
Originally by: DB Preacher
Does that mean we're actually going to see you and your lemons turn up and fight then?
dbp
DianaBolic, post with your main
Im a Lover, not a fighter <3
I'm confused.
I never post with any other character than this one, on these forums, ever. You think that dbp is my alt?
LOL.
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:00:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Blacklight
Do you seriously believe that not being logged on to Eve or sitting in NPC stations is going to help you win this war that you started?
OK from this BL i read 2 questions
1) I am sitting in a NPC station
Argument: I am sitting in a safe in YZ atm but i am at work so unable to log on (probably in a similiar possition to you)
2)"I do not log into EVE"
I have thus far logged on every night and lead a gang and have on most nights been sucsesfull in getting some kills. and have fun with my guys.
Your 2 arguments directed at me have been answered sir.
Please I need Attention! |
Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:04:00 -
[100]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: Blacklight
Do you seriously believe that not being logged on to Eve or sitting in NPC stations is going to help you win this war that you started?
OK from this BL i read 2 questions
1) I am sitting in a NPC station
Argument: I am sitting in a safe in YZ atm but i am at work so unable to log on (probably in a similiar possition to you)
2)"I do not log into EVE"
I have thus far logged on every night and lead a gang and have on most nights been sucsesfull in getting some kills. and have fun with my guys.
Your 2 arguments directed at me have been answered sir.
Why thank you I am duly impressed by your ability to reply.
For your next trick can you try round up the rest of your 1000 member alliance and actually fight this war you started?
Eve Blacklight Style
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TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:05:00 -
[101]
Originally by: thebold
A question to you or DB...
Your mentality is based on a kill board fixated on the fact that a kill board is what kills a alliance and also a way of measuring success in the way of inflicting xbillions of damage.. Do you believe this to be true?
My second question is,
Do you hope by using the forums (propaganda) you think you could achieve damaging the individual corp within SA or do you feel that this is the only place where you can fight us and judge us by where you amplify our tactics and show the eve lot that æwe are really lameÆ?
If you believe the second question to be trueà Please do some history (on the forums) to the other alliances we have fought in the last 1 + years :)
(forum whoring ftw btw)
No, for me personally it comes down to SA declaring war on BoB. I don't care about the declaration itself but it does bug me that after we bring it down to your region, your alliance is nowhere to be found. I do want to let SA know that declaring war on BoB was a mistake.
Yes, I do think the way SA fights is lame. It seems to me that the SA members are ordered to avoid direct fights with BoB. (boredom tactics)
My question back to you is why does SA not form a proper fleet and engage BoB - what if BoB beats you in the first fight? Will you not learn what went wrong, improve, and become better? Isn't that what PvP and the game is all about? Isn't that what makes the game fun? |
Bared Bel'Medar
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:15:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Bared Bel''Medar on 23/03/2006 10:16:41
Bared's Rule #1:
The Bigger the E'peen, the smaller the real Peen
Bared's Rule #2:
The more bragging about e-peen, the less used the real peen. Initiating discussion about killboards is proven sign of no R-peen use.
Bared's Rule #3:
Bragging about leadership and skills ingame is proof you spent aprox 25% of Middle school stuck in a locker, and 40% of high school denying you just said the geeky, idiotic thing you just said.
Bared Rule #4:
Initiating a dis on leadership and skills proves you cried when you got home about being shoved in the locker.
Imaran looks good in a dress though -Eris
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:16:00 -
[103]
Originally by: TWD
My question back to you is why does SA not form a proper fleet and engage BoB - what if BoB beats you in the first fight? Will you not learn what went wrong, improve, and become better? Isn't that what PvP and the game is all about? Isn't that what makes the game fun?
Hi Again TWD,
First BL he was before you :P
BL I see that as a insult... We do not enforce a dictatorship on our members they are free to do as they wish. Allot of them roam on there own, others have real life commitments.. ETC you know
I will not enforce any member to be doing somethign in the game apart of my alliance he/she did not want to do.
TWD "Why dont we make a fleet.."
Ok this is a difficult one to answer, It is not because we are afraid of loosing a big fight or loosing lots of ships.. its bassicly because each individual corp in SA is built around itself and its corp members.. I rarly talk to Orc or lets say Ultan from PMASS we simply let them do 'there thing' its more cohesive within SA when its like this.. everyone knows a objective and they do it...
You see for me a fleet fight is not fun.. i proclaim to be no great FC but i could lead a 100vs100 or whatever but from our expirences we find that those huge fights are not what float our boats... and as for improve tactics..
Well i allready think outside the box static FCing gets you killed from my expirences, but no we 'corp and majority of SA' do not enjoy huge stonking fleets :)
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Quaren
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:22:00 -
[104]
to the OP:
You must have been in the backend part of Stain if you see a bunch of OC everywere since they hang out there. SA acually only live in a few systems in Stain atm since we don't need more. Another reason you probably didn't see any SA is because when BOB (or mostly BNC) decided to invade 9rq we decided we didn't want to play by their rules so we moved out for a little while to go to delve and empire. The reason you haven't seen us in empire before is because the only times we have been to empire in some kind of force was the big empire NvS war that we only realy got to participate in for a week because of other things getting in the way.
And by clearing out the deadweight we mean that we got rid of the corps that only cared about themselves and didn't want to help the rest of us out. I can admitt that we(IE-EX atleast) have alot of non active members but what does that matter? We have played together and are friends so why kick them out if they are taking breaks from eve?
ps. I love when FIX flame us... everyone in EVE knows they took a beating when we invaded them and the only reason they got FAT back was because they called in a bunch of friends (which there is no shame in but don't go acting like you won all by yourselfs)
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:25:00 -
[105]
And there lies the problem with SA.
Two completely contradictory posts back to back.
One stating that every corporation works for themselves.
The other stating that all the corporations working for themselves were kicked.
Headless. Chickens.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:29:00 -
[106]
Originally by: DB Preacher
And there lies the problem with SA.
Two completely contradictory posts back to back.
One stating that every corporation works for themselves.
The other stating that all the corporations working for themselves were kicked.
Headless. Chickens.
dbp
But this doesnt effect what is happening now in the real game does it?
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Quaren
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:31:00 -
[107]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: TWD
My question back to you is why does SA not form a proper fleet and engage BoB - what if BoB beats you in the first fight? Will you not learn what went wrong, improve, and become better? Isn't that what PvP and the game is all about? Isn't that what makes the game fun?
Hi Again TWD,
First BL he was before you :P
BL I see that as a insult... We do not enforce a dictatorship on our members they are free to do as they wish. Allot of them roam on there own, others have real life commitments.. ETC you know
I will not enforce any member to be doing somethign in the game apart of my alliance he/she did not want to do.
TWD "Why dont we make a fleet.."
Ok this is a difficult one to answer, It is not because we are afraid of loosing a big fight or loosing lots of ships.. its bassicly because each individual corp in SA is built around itself and its corp members.. I rarly talk to Orc or lets say Ultan from PMASS we simply let them do 'there thing' its more cohesive within SA when its like this.. everyone knows a objective and they do it...
You see for me a fleet fight is not fun.. i proclaim to be no great FC but i could lead a 100vs100 or whatever but from our expirences we find that those huge fights are not what float our boats... and as for improve tactics..
Well i allready think outside the box static FCing gets you killed from my expirences, but no we 'corp and majority of SA' do not enjoy huge stonking fleets :)
Not to mention that getting fleets together takes time. And even if you get one together you might not get a fight. In my experience from joining a fleet to the fight acually happens usually take an average of 3 hours or something and only about 5% of the times acually leads to a fight. you mostly just sit there waiting and not doing anything. Fleets are BORING thats why we don't do them unless we have to.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:33:00 -
[108]
Originally by: thebold
Originally by: DB Preacher
And there lies the problem with SA.
Two completely contradictory posts back to back.
One stating that every corporation works for themselves.
The other stating that all the corporations working for themselves were kicked.
Headless. Chickens.
dbp
But this doesnt effect what is happening now in the real game does it?
Well that's where you and I disagree.
Your alliance is on the run because it doesn't have a leader who can pull it together.
If that's how you wish to play then grats, you are now the ****roaches of eve alongside Burn Eden.
We stomp, you scatter, you die when our feet land.
Being leaderless has meant you have had to leave stain.
If that isn't a rather good effect then I don't know what is.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Nifel
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:34:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Liet Traep
Originally by: Tiuwaz
this whole affair illustrates just 1 thing once more, namely that NPC stations in 0.0 suck
Nope npc stations are great. If all stations were conquerable there'd be nothing from keeping a small group of a couple of alliances from controlling those stations and there'd be no room for the independts and small time operators.As it is anyone with the testicular fortitude can brave 0.0 and find themselves a home in delve, fountain, stain or syndicate. It'll be dangerous but at least they'd have a place to dock.
Sure there are ways. You team up with others, then go attack an alliance that holds too much space for them to cover effectively.
The reason most alliances don't like 0.0 npc stations is that it negates the whole idea behind 0.0. Namely controlling it and harvesting it's riches.
"We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago."
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Quaren
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:39:00 -
[110]
Originally by: DB Preacher
And there lies the problem with SA.
Two completely contradictory posts back to back.
One stating that every corporation works for themselves.
The other stating that all the corporations working for themselves were kicked.
Headless. Chickens.
dbp
Acually what I ment was that the corps that aren't in SA anymore are the ones that had totaly differant agendas then the rest of us. They didn't call Stain home but Omist, Estoria or Paragon Soul were their homes and they cared so much about thier stations and having access to good mining and not alot about pvp. Even if the corps that remain work alone doesn't mean they don't care about the same things and have goals that are the same.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:41:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Quaren
Originally by: DB Preacher
And there lies the problem with SA.
Two completely contradictory posts back to back.
One stating that every corporation works for themselves.
The other stating that all the corporations working for themselves were kicked.
Headless. Chickens.
dbp
Acually what I ment was that the corps that aren't in SA anymore are the ones that had totaly differant agendas then the rest of us. They didn't call Stain home.
How can you call Stain home when you abandoned it after a week?
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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FrioBebe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:46:00 -
[112]
Originally by: DB Preacher
And there lies the problem with SA.
Two completely contradictory posts back to back.
One stating that every corporation works for themselves.
The other stating that all the corporations working for themselves were kicked.
Headless. Chickens.
dbp
As a humble pie producing chicken, I would like to offer you a few clues on how to combine the essence of those very two posts.
1: individual milestones
2: goals
3: combined goals
4: vision
If you are so curious on how SA works, why cant you just ask polite? Maybe we will show you in time, when we are not busy doing more important stuff.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:49:00 -
[113]
By todays EVE standards, what is an alliance that neither controls nor contests 0.0 regions/space? Where will SA be when Kali rolls around and everyone is playing with outposts and new large scale alliance content? Will they still be a loosely formed nomad-esque alliance content with carrying out thier 'unique' style of warfare? After all the smack is said and done there is no doubt that the SA of today is nothing like the original alliance, at this rate, seems like they are just living thier eve careers day by day without much care for the future. Also later in the program, a 6 month old baby savagely mauls an african white rhino, the rhino is in critical but stable condition, more at eleven.
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Colje
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:53:00 -
[114]
DB Preacher...is there an 101 tutorial on how to fight an alliance war? Even in RL wars you use tactics..instead of mundane static ways..
Enlighten me please...
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Colje
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:55:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Randay
By todays EVE standards, what is an alliance that neither controls nor contests 0.0 regions/space? Where will SA be when Kali rolls around and everyone is playing with outposts and new large scale alliance content? Will they still be a loosely formed nomad-esque alliance content with carrying out thier 'unique' style of warfare? After all the smack is said and done there is no doubt that the SA of today is nothing like the original alliance, at this rate, seems like they are just living thier eve careers day by day without much care for the future. Also later in the program, a 6 month old baby savagely mauls an african white rhino, the rhino is in critical but stable condition, more at eleven.
Only time will tell...
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Friar Vigfus
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:02:00 -
[116]
Quote:
And even if you get one together you might not get a fight.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:10:00 -
[117]
Ah yet more smak from the lemons.
For such an insignificantly small corporation you sure do have a lot to say.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:16:00 -
[118]
If I was made "Evil Dictator of All of Stain" for a month, I could get SA to force BoB out.
The sad thing is, anyone could.
SA have everything they need to defend what they claim, what they lack is the ability, coordination, and determination to use it.
Unfortunately, they are the very things you need by the bucket full to be an alliance rather than just a bunch of NAPs with a shared chat channel.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
IcedBach Jr
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:16:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Randay
By todays EVE standards, what is an alliance that neither controls nor contests 0.0 regions/space? Where will SA be when Kali rolls around and everyone is playing with outposts and new large scale alliance content? Will they still be a loosely formed nomad-esque alliance content with carrying out thier 'unique' style of warfare? After all the smack is said and done there is no doubt that the SA of today is nothing like the original alliance, at this rate, seems like they are just living thier eve careers day by day without much care for the future. Also later in the program, a 6 month old baby savagely mauls an african white rhino, the rhino is in critical but stable condition, more at eleven.
Well it managed to kick your ass and still seems to be doing the same. We were on a high point when BOB decided we were not worth their time and started with their threats, now we fight and at the same time build up.
BTW, if we are dead, how come we havent lost any numbers, and who says an alliance has to claim god knows how many stations. An alliance is a group of ppl that works togeather and calls itself an entity. We also call Stain our home although somtimes we have to take trips. And our house is still ours even though its infested by termites, only the quality of it degrades.
And this forum smacking is getting silly and I for one will end now, DB you are truly not worth the time.
Praeludium to success |
Randay
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:23:00 -
[120]
Originally by: IcedBach Jr
dee dee dee!
lol wow, how you gonna smack everyone and thier momma and then say that the forum smack is getting silly and that certain people arent worth it. you're awesome!
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FrioBebe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:42:00 -
[121]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Ah yet more smak from the lemons.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Hi,
You started the smak. We'll continue it until you start bringing it.
This forum warfare is more fun than i though :)
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Dracorimus
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:46:00 -
[122]
Wow, so this is where the SA guys are, on the forums, I think I wont go hunting around stain for a bit then....
Just...wow...
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Kantar
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:50:00 -
[123]
Damm reading another SA/BOB tread......
...lets stop this madness, sadden me see SA and BOB fighting like this and slapping in each other face on this forum dont do any good for all involved, Trig pls try to sort this out in a diplomatic way and move on to make a stronger and valid Alliance once again.
Dont make me come down there and slap both of you ok!!!
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Random
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:27:00 -
[124]
Edited by: Random on 23/03/2006 12:27:15
Originally by: Kantar
Damm reading another SA/BOB tread......
...lets stop this madness, sadden me see SA and BOB fighting like this and slapping in each other face on this forum dont do any good for all involved, Trig pls try to sort this out in a diplomatic way and move on to make a stronger and valid Alliance once again.
Dont make me come down there and slap both of you ok!!!
Lol kantar of all ppl u shuld know not to belive everything u read on teh forum. Thing is bob arnt hapy that we dun fight them on there terms, and u know us. When have we ever fogth anyone to make them happy
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:43:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Random
Lol kantar of all ppl u shuld know not to belive everything u read on teh forum. Thing is bob arnt hapy that we dun fight them on there terms, and u know us.
Actually we couldn't careless, the biggest problem is the rubbish your alliance keeps coming up by pretending you are doing something.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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hantwo
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:01:00 -
[126]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 23/03/2006 13:00:15
Originally by: Random
Lol kantar of all ppl u shuld know not to belive everything u read on teh forum. Thing is bob arnt hapy that we dun fight them on there terms, and u know us.
Actually we couldn't careless, the biggest problem is the rubbish your alliance keeps posting pretending you are doing something.
dbp
why is it a problem?
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Colje
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:18:00 -
[127]
Originally by: DB Preacher
Edited by: DB Preacher on 23/03/2006 13:00:15
Originally by: Random
Lol kantar of all ppl u shuld know not to belive everything u read on teh forum. Thing is bob arnt hapy that we dun fight them on there terms, and u know us.
Actually we couldn't careless, the biggest problem is the rubbish your alliance keeps posting pretending you are doing something.
dbp
Weird....
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Juan Andalusian
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Posted - 2006.03.23 13:40:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Random
Thing is bob arnt hapy that we dun fight them on there terms
BoB Terms = Bring It.
So saying your are not abiding by our terms says quite a lot about your activity.
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Mag's
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Posted - 2006.03.23 14:38:00 -
[129]
So, it seems BoB are not happy.
Shame.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:42:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Mag's
So, it seems BoB are not happy.
Shame.
Well, it all depends how you look at it.
Do we want to fight SA, and see if they can back their bravado?
Sure we do.
Are we unhappy that they have proved themselves unable or unwilling to do so?
Not really.
SA were doing all the chest beating. Strutting around and saying how great they are.
They told the whole community how they weren't BoB's puppets or slaves, and that they would fight to prove it...
...
...
Well, I'm sure the whole community is on the edge of it's seats waiting for this to happen.
The golden rule of Eve has always been "back up your smack".
SA have only mastered half of this, but unfortunately "backing up" isn't going to win them any kudos points.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:50:00 -
[131]
Its not locked yet?
callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back |
magickangaroo
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:47:00 -
[132]
Originally by: HellsRazor
ooooo how many bs you kill? go ahead tell us... how many hac you lose or recon? :) isk is isk :) blah blah blah im a blober with nothing to gank boo hoo
yet to see any of your kills with less than 5 or 6 members on.
Originally by: HellsRazor
lol look at ships worth isk tell me isk cost then i believe you
Originally by: HellsRazor
dude look at Hellsrazor look me up... tell me im noob go ahead
your a noob, you suck, your small time and it hurts inside i know... grow up ferox boi.
hopefully this would have upset you enougth to get angry and come kill me pls do.
looser
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:48:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Zysco
Its not locked yet?
It is now.
For obvious reasons.
Click.
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