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Nova Incantus
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:27:00 -
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Skills wise it takes
Caldari Freighter I
Adv Spaceship Com. I
Spaceship Com. V
Caldari Industrial V
Caldari Frig. III
As of right now I have:
Spaceship Com. I
Caldari Industrial IV
Caldari Frig. II (training 3 5d left)
What sort of wait time you think I have till I can get one of these provided I train back to back skills constantly and mine/mission to earn up the cash for it.
Also is it worth it?
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:30:00 -
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Well, firstly you need indy 5, which will take 20 to 30 days, then you need spaceship command 5, which will be maybe 5 - 10 days. The other ones wont take long at all. Then theres the small matter of 900 million ISK 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:31:00 -
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if caldari frig 3 takes you 5 days, i'm thinking its gonna be several months of training 
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Nova Incantus
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
if caldari frig 3 takes you 5 days, i'm thinking its gonna be several months of training
well I dont know how to speed it up, I've only been at the game since fiday night
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Olsen'Kra
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:43:00 -
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Also, as an option once you have Caldari Indy 5, Industry 5 may be a nice option. Giving you the skills necessary to fly elite haulers. Handy for smaller hauls or as a hauler alt while mining. Also with the spate of indy pops in Jita, it may pay to have something stronger than a badger II.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Incantus
Originally by: HippoKing
if caldari frig 3 takes you 5 days, i'm thinking its gonna be several months of training
well I dont know how to speed it up, I've only been at the game since fiday night
Go to the market, check Learning under the Skills category. Buy the basic ones that boosts your Perception and Willpower. Train them to maybe 3, it wont take long.
Most skills under Spaceship command benefit from high perception and willpower... just poke around the skills and read their stats.
Have fun
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Nova Incantus
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Posted - 2006.03.22 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Nova Incantus
Originally by: HippoKing
if caldari frig 3 takes you 5 days, i'm thinking its gonna be several months of training
well I dont know how to speed it up, I've only been at the game since fiday night
Go to the market, check Learning under the Skills category. Buy the basic ones that boosts your Perception and Willpower. Train them to maybe 3, it wont take long.
Most skills under Spaceship command benefit from high perception and willpower... just poke around the skills and read their stats.
Have fun
thx I'll try that later when I get back in the game
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War Drumb
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Posted - 2006.03.22 22:56:00 -
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Whats the going price for the Caldari freighter? I hear they are down to 750 mil
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:01:00 -
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What are you going to do with it when you get it?
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Ilya Murametz
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Posted - 2006.03.22 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
What are you going to do with it when you get it?
First sensible question in this post to the pilot asking the question.
First of all, look at what you're doing in the game or planning on doing (considering you're a 3 day old pilot) and then decide if you need a ship to fit that role. Again considering you're a pretty young pilot to this game i wouldn't worry about a freighter for a while. Freighters are used to do large quantities of trade runs, sometimes for hauling agent missions and mainly by large corporation/alliances to move assets around the space. It's not an oversized iteron that you can haul minerals you mined in belt. Do remember you can only load and unload inside the station, can't scooop in space, only thing you can do in space is deploy Player Owned Stations to be anchored.
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Ortu Konsinni
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 23/03/2006 00:11:07
If your character is so young and it takes you 5 days to train Caldari Frigate from II to III, I would seriously look into remaking your character from zero. Your perception attribute must be so low it hurts. Frigate II->III should take a day at most.
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Securus
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:39:00 -
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Edited by: Securus on 23/03/2006 00:44:42
Any capital ship requires considerable time and monetary investment. If you have only been in the game since Friday, I strongly advise you leave it for now. Not only will you need at least a billion ISK to speed up your training time and buy the ship, but you need financial capital to fill the ship as well.
However, if you really, really, want one, and you have, somehow, got the ISK:
1) Maximize your attributes, as far as is practical. I strongly advise taking the Int/Mem/Char/Per/Will basic learning skills to L5 and doing the advanced versions to L4. Also, if you have the ISK for a Freighter, throw in a Int/Mem/Per/Will set of +4, or at least +3 implants.
If this sounds overkill, remember, not only should you take the advanced learning skills to L4 anyway, but there are a lot of other skills you need to train as well, such as navigation skills. If you want a Freighter, you are in for the long haul, and frankly your current time of 5+ days for racial frigate L3 is horrible. I forget what it took me, but it shouldn't take you more than a few hours, certainly less than a day, anyway.
Unless you don't want to, you may want to consider making a new character with decent Per/Int/Will/Mem, as they are arguably the most important attributes, currently at least.
2) When you finally have the money, stop and double it at least. That may sound harsh, but not only do you need capital to fill the ship or provide collateral, but if you lose it you are back to square one.
3) Make sure you need it.
Following a "learning" experience, I trained for a Transport ship, and technically I could be in a Freighter in less than a day, but I haven't got one simply because I can't justify buying one.
Finally, I haven't worked out the build costs of a Charon, but 750M sounds absurdly low. I find the profits on a 900M+ Providence sale too little to interest me.
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Incantus
Caldari Frig. II (training 3 5d left)
I'm guessing you actually have Frig 3 and are training to 4?
To have 5d left to train to 3 you would need willpower and perception of 1, which is impossible.
So anyway, I wouldn't go straight for a capital ship from creation, you miss out on too much of the game. It's fine to have as a end goal, but if you get obsessed with getting to it as soon as possible you will miss out on fun and probably get bored pretty quick. Just my thoughts.
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Nuri Aderynn
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:15:00 -
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I don't know why you want a Freighter. Hardly anyone uses a Freighter. You don't need a Freighter.
I concur with whoever said you need to reroll your character. You can choose one with a much better Perception and Frigate IV, which will make up for the time you lost with the current character. Go to the Skills sub-section for more info.
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Nova Incantus
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:19:00 -
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yeah mostly im just curious, and I like the look of the Charon
but yeah I know to buy a ship knowing you got a niche to fill, as profitable as it would be to move POS parts around for people im sure the demand isn't that great at the moment.
I'll work on my attributes, it does seem a bit overboard for the time vs the level training for. I'm about to go look into that and see what I have vs what I should have. If I do get into transport im sure I'll start out at something smaller like a barge or a industrial ship. And then learn from there.
Thanks for the advice I'll go see what I can do lol.... and no im not starting over at zero bad bad bad. My character may be flawed but hes still my character.... we can rebuild him, we have the technology... 
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:48:00 -
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Freighters seem almost like a Packrat's best friend lol.
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Tomas Nuerin
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Incantus
Skills wise it takes
Caldari Freighter I
Adv Spaceship Com. I
Spaceship Com. V
Caldari Industrial V
Caldari Frig. III
As of right now I have:
Spaceship Com. I
Caldari Industrial IV
Caldari Frig. II (training 3 5d left)
What sort of wait time you think I have till I can get one of these provided I train back to back skills constantly and mine/mission to earn up the cash for it.
Also is it worth it?
You can't have Caldari Industrial without Frigate III. I quess you are training Frigate IV. You don't need that for Charon.
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
Edited by: Ortu Konsinni on 23/03/2006 00:11:07
If your character is so young and it takes you 5 days to train Caldari Frigate from II to III, I would seriously look into remaking your character from zero. Your perception attribute must be so low it hurts. Frigate II->III should take a day at most.
Find out what he intends to do with this character before telling him to reroll it.
My new account character can train science from 4 - 5 in just over 3days but takes 3 days to get lv3 frigate.. hes a scientist more than anything.
If he plans on trading then obviously find a mix of perception, will power and charisma..
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Susa Ou
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:26:00 -
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It may look nice, it may seem like the coolest thing in the game - but I would seriously reconsider your motivations. I will assume that you are at Frig 3 and are training 4, 2 -> 3 in 5 days is too slow, its either a bug, or something is wrong. But, I want you to know that corps that build POSs are not going to entrust a 3 or a month or even a year old stranger to fly their parts. POSs are built with a lot more secrecy then you may imagine - almost all the alliances are at war with very agressive opponents, POSs are the weak point in any alliance. Its location is kept secret untill its defensese are powered up and a small but nessisary amount of materiel is stored to surive a siege.
If you fly the Charon for personal prophit, it would do well to buy a T2 indi and learn the marketsm learn what and hoow Pirates operate, and master the Escrow system. In the long run, you will either turn into an alt, or you will be biting your nails off everytime you fly in 0.4 or below space. . . those 900 mil ISK have no defenses and move very very slowly. . .
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Nova Incantus
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Posted - 2006.03.24 16:02:00 -
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okay update...
it now takes less than 3days go train from Frigate 3-4
I only had learning lvl 2
now I've got
Learning 3
Analytical mind 2 (working on 3)
Iorn Will 2
Instant recall 2
Empathy 2
Spatial Aware. 3
Int. 11 Percp. 9 Char. 8 Will. 8 Mem. 14
is that more along the lines of where I should be? sorry still kinda new
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War Drumb
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Posted - 2006.03.24 16:14:00 -
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Ok so now that he knows the skills he needs and that he feels he wants one to run agent missions or the like... How much are they going for now on the market? Any one know?
My alt should e able to fly one in about 2 days. Yes we will use it to haul large amounts of ore to 100% refine stations, Ice for the POS, and loot out of the rim areas near 00 space.
So any sellers of the Caldari freighter? Im at work and would love to set my sites on getting the money I need to buy the ship now.
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Posted - 2006.03.26 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Incantus
Caldari Frig. II (training 3 5d left)
My god, do you have -5 attribute implants or something?
If frig 3 takes you 5days (hoping you ment 5hours), then indy 5 is going to take you like 3 months.
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