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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:08:00 -
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Edited by: SaorAlba on 23/03/2006 00:09:31 This evening our POS at planet 5 moon 1 suddenly goes offline. We online it again and loose the modules. New goodies are flown in and put online. Lokal schoots up to 400 and there is the event team. While -G- is lagged out the event team starts to work with dreads on the POS together with FE/5. My quistions are following. Did you logged off the POS? and secondly, Why do you involve in a regional conflict?
Greetz, Alba.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:11:00 -
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aint life a real kick in the *****
STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

jellybird
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:12:00 -
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mmmm, interesting
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:12:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 23/03/2006 00:12:41 give it up
biggest event ive seen so far its awesome
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:13:00 -
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slothe i saw you at that pos i swear
was loving your rendition of the robot dance
STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

TWD
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:13:00 -
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Serpentis event team has also worked together with VC/FA/IMP/Norad against BoB and shot at our POS, nothing special here. |

Naphtalia
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:15:00 -
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Our spy offlined your POS, we shot your guns down so we could attack it.. there is no "events team" in D7
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petergriffen
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:16:00 -
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F-E 4tw \o/
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:17:00 -
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nothing to see here...
move along...
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Daxes
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Naphtalia Our spy offlined your POS, we shot your guns down so we could attack it.. there is no "events team" in D7
do u think ur are funny or something like this?
Anyways good to see that u finally found someone to fight for you.
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: TWD Serpentis event team has also worked together with VC/FA/IMP/Norad against BoB and shot at our POS, nothing special here.
a) in the middle of the night b) in the middle of the week c) 4:1 outnumbered?
Anyway: gj 5/F-E with the "event"-team. Can't remember of such a good timing in other involvements of the "event"-team  -- All postings reflects just my personal opinion. |

CaptainCrunch
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:20:00 -
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Its a 4 part storyline mission i got, this is part one.
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Manira
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:21:00 -
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I frapsed it, just for you G guys 
EVE-Base.net |

WildCard
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:21:00 -
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ok, at last pretty lame, but G plz don't discuss this here. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody-- |

SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: TWD Serpentis event team has also worked together with VC/FA/IMP/Norad against BoB and shot at our POS, nothing special here.
Offlining a POS would be I guess. Secondly I am intrested in the motivation of the event team. The thing is, how can you agress anybody if your not allowed by the mighty event team. Should we just fly home now? How can anybody in the future proceed in the very costly, time consuming event of taking over a system while all your afforts are just blowing to pieces by the all mighty.
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TickTackTuck
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:24:00 -
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seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
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Recluse Viramor
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: SaorAlba
Originally by: TWD Serpentis event team has also worked together with VC/FA/IMP/Norad against BoB and shot at our POS, nothing special here.
Offlining a POS would be I guess. Secondly I am intrested in the motivation of the event team. The thing is, how can you agress anybody if your not allowed by the mighty event team. Should we just fly home now? How can anybody in the future proceed in the very costly, time consuming event of taking over a system while all your afforts are just blowing to pieces by the all mighty.
And the fleet of 280+ had nothing to do with it 
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:25:00 -
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its sad but maybe true
the gods are against g
may as well hand over c4c now and we can speed up the process of cmd woddy mining for me STAN FACTA NON VERBA [MACE] [ATUK] EvE player against EvE in china. Gallente people are all about democracy! |

Kalened
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:27:00 -
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Well it seems the rumors of 5 having gm's helping them has been confirmed. Grats 5 i guess since you cant win on the battlefield you can win by cheating.
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Endeva
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:27:00 -
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they allready crying at forums Please resize your forum signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques |
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 23/03/2006 00:29:03 keep the events in empire, and let the 0.0 alliances write their own stories.
anyway, isn't there an "opt-out" feature for events like this?
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: TickTackTuck seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
LOL
Just LOL
Everyone can look at the numbers if they want.
We encourage it actually.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Endeva
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened Well it seems the rumors of 5 having gm's helping them has been confirmed. Grats 5 i guess since you cant win on the battlefield you can win by cheating.
lol we are born to be winners if you didnt know.
and btw there was now fleet fight in eve history you have win over .5. Please resize your forum signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques |

csebal
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:28:00 -
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If having the event team interfere means that you get a reinforced node from CCP, then damn i want their interference - no matter on which side - every day :)
400 on local, and still playable.. compared to the situation of the last days, where 200ish people were enough to bring the node to the limits of its capacity, i would say damn nice job CCP.
I think the Gueristas are simply ****ed off that you interfere with their training procedures. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe. |

TickTackTuck
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
LOL
Just LOL
Everyone can look at the numbers if they want.
We encourage it actually.
in every battle over the last days G/Iron/Rzr and so on where those owning the battlefield after the fights and also those with the better kill ratio so to what exactly do you "lol"?
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Bombcrater
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:30:00 -
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I hope whatever member of CCP's staff authorised this 'event' is prepared to post their reasoning here, because it had better be good.
Eve is supposed to be a player based game, but what's the point of expending the huge effort in time and resources to fight large territorial battles when the 'hand of God' can just come down and crush you?
It's cheating, pure and simple. And shame on CCP for having anything to do with it.
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csebal
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Recluse Viramor
Originally by: SaorAlba
Originally by: TWD Serpentis event team has also worked together with VC/FA/IMP/Norad against BoB and shot at our POS, nothing special here.
Offlining a POS would be I guess. Secondly I am intrested in the motivation of the event team. The thing is, how can you agress anybody if your not allowed by the mighty event team. Should we just fly home now? How can anybody in the future proceed in the very costly, time consuming event of taking over a system while all your afforts are just blowing to pieces by the all mighty.
And the fleet of 280+ had nothing to do with it 
Lol.. i guess the fleet alone would be enough to take the POSes out... there are simply not enough guns to take out someone, if there are 200+ targets present :)
Anyway, the battle is far from being over. Stop whining, and start fighting back instead. You know you can.. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe. |

Gibmundur
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:31:00 -
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wtf is going on? go away ccp 
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:31:00 -
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The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Svett
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:31:00 -
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Nevermind the 300+ gang that was attacking, it's all the gm's fault.
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Kalened
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: Endeva
Originally by: Kalened Well it seems the rumors of 5 having gm's helping them has been confirmed. Grats 5 i guess since you cant win on the battlefield you can win by cheating.
lol we are born to be winners if you didnt know.
and btw there was now fleet fight in eve history you have win over .5.
Yeah just about every engagement but hey you cling to the 2 times in the last 2 years that you've held the field after battle with IRON. Cling to your delusions.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:33:00 -
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yeh a 320 man strong gang with 140-160 battleships and several F-E Dreads would have been never be able to take that POS into reinforced mode by themselves.
Baaaaad GM's
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Endeva
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:33:00 -
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Edited by: Endeva on 23/03/2006 00:34:38
Originally by: Vince Draken
loolol
and btw there was 331 ppl in gang so dont whine we doont needs anyones help but this is just funny to see Please resize your forum signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques |

Kalened
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz yeh a 320 man strong gang with 140-160 battleships and several F-E Dreads would have been never be able to take that POS into reinforced mode by themselves.
Baaaaad GM's
Probably not. your 200 man fleets cant even take a gate camp.
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: SaorAlba on 23/03/2006 00:35:51 Edited by: SaorAlba on 23/03/2006 00:34:49 You can't offline a POS when it has active modules on it. It can run out of juice which wasn't the case since no 24 h notice arrived. For the simple, it can't be done. Gratz to your blob but without the magican you need dreads to attack a death star. After we menaged to bring it backup you return with the event team. It just ain't fair and even you should protest against this.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: TickTackTuck
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
LOL
Just LOL
Everyone can look at the numbers if they want.
We encourage it actually.
in every battle over the last days G/Iron/Rzr and so on where those owning the battlefield after the fights and also those with the better kill ratio so to what exactly do you "lol"?
Kalened's alt?
I'm not gonna argue numbers with you. Anyone who is interested in seeing the truth an find all approperate links a few posts up.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Ghandalph
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:35:00 -
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i just wonder why is the guristas taking a side in the fights r they gone take d7 station or just help f-e keep it
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: SaorAlba You can't offline a POS when it has active modules on it.
...lol
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Yuzier OA
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:36:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened Well it seems the rumors of 5 having gm's helping them has been confirmed. Grats 5 i guess since you cant win on the battlefield you can win by cheating.
I have been in many events, and its not the first time, event team have been part of an ongoing conflict.....the quote you make about 5 being favored by the GM's, does not live up to your Alliance reputations, im sorry to say.
I think every major part of Alliances in 0.0 space have at one time or another been involved in the story line. Its fun, since it doenst happen everyday.
But that is just my opinion......your certainly entitled to yours, but by accusing 5 of cheating, and favorism, please.....rethink it 
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Dawson
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:37:00 -
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why they ignoring the 300+ fleet we put togeather?
Ambassador/Admiral Join BSC |
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Kalened
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
LOL
Just LOL
Everyone can look at the numbers if they want.
We encourage it actually.
in every battle over the last days G/Iron/Rzr and so on where those owning the battlefield after the fights and also those with the better kill ratio so to what exactly do you "lol"?
Kalened's alt?
I'm not gonna argue numbers with you. Anyone who is interested in seeing the truth an find all approperate links a few posts up.
Your losing the war. If you weren't you buddies wouldnt have stepped into help you. Deal with it. 5 has never been a force. You lost down south but ooooh you managed to take out what was left of PA and even then you had to beg FE to turn on them and help you. You're pathetic. I cant wait for your BoB style "planned pullout" when its clear you have no hope of winning.
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Kalened
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dawson why they ignoring the 300+ fleet we put togeather?
Why? maybe because your fleets haven't been a factor the first week and you were losing ground then all the sudden the Events team comes to help you and you have a small victory? I can smell fish.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
LOL
Just LOL
Everyone can look at the numbers if they want.
We encourage it actually.
in every battle over the last days G/Iron/Rzr and so on where those owning the battlefield after the fights and also those with the better kill ratio so to what exactly do you "lol"?
Kalened's alt?
I'm not gonna argue numbers with you. Anyone who is interested in seeing the truth an find all approperate links a few posts up.
Your losing the war. If you weren't you buddies wouldnt have stepped into help you. Deal with it. 5 has never been a force. You lost down south but ooooh you managed to take out what was left of PA and even then you had to beg FE to turn on them and help you. You're pathetic. I cant wait for your BoB style "planned pullout" when its clear you have no hope of winning.
Keep on postings buddy. It is only gonna help your cause.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Tiuwaz yeh a 320 man strong gang with 140-160 battleships and several F-E Dreads would have been never be able to take that POS into reinforced mode by themselves.
Baaaaad GM's
Probably not. your 200 man fleets cant even take a gate camp.
questions is why didnt you warp in to us then , i mean we were sitting for 2h at a gate, we suck we cant kill an ibis without GM help.
Kalened why they allow you to keep posting is beyond me.
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Kalened
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
LOL
Just LOL
Everyone can look at the numbers if they want.
We encourage it actually.
in every battle over the last days G/Iron/Rzr and so on where those owning the battlefield after the fights and also those with the better kill ratio so to what exactly do you "lol"?
Kalened's alt?
I'm not gonna argue numbers with you. Anyone who is interested in seeing the truth an find all approperate links a few posts up.
Your losing the war. If you weren't you buddies wouldnt have stepped into help you. Deal with it. 5 has never been a force. You lost down south but ooooh you managed to take out what was left of PA and even then you had to beg FE to turn on them and help you. You're pathetic. I cant wait for your BoB style "planned pullout" when its clear you have no hope of winning.
Keep on postings buddy. It is only gonna help your cause.
Yeah you too.. its not like you can make 5 look any worse LOL
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Kalened
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Tiuwaz yeh a 320 man strong gang with 140-160 battleships and several F-E Dreads would have been never be able to take that POS into reinforced mode by themselves.
Baaaaad GM's
Probably not. your 200 man fleets cant even take a gate camp.
questions is why didnt you warp in to us then , i mean we were sitting for 2h at a gate, we suck we cant kill an ibis without GM help.
Kalened why they allow you to keep posting is beyond me.
Yeah i dont know either. Maybe they want some truth to come out. Enjoy your night. The rest of the month wont be so kind to you.
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Edster
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:40:00 -
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they anit devs there my atls
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Endeva
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
LOL
Just LOL
Everyone can look at the numbers if they want.
We encourage it actually.
in every battle over the last days G/Iron/Rzr and so on where those owning the battlefield after the fights and also those with the better kill ratio so to what exactly do you "lol"?
Kalened's alt?
I'm not gonna argue numbers with you. Anyone who is interested in seeing the truth an find all approperate links a few posts up.
Your losing the war. If you weren't you buddies wouldnt have stepped into help you. Deal with it. 5 has never been a force. You lost down south but ooooh you managed to take out what was left of PA and even then you had to beg FE to turn on them and help you. You're pathetic. I cant wait for your BoB style "planned pullout" when its clear you have no hope of winning.
loool someone is nervous here/dont smash your keyboard.chill out dude and .5. never lose any fights Please resize your forum signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Vince Draken on 23/03/2006 00:39:58
Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck
Originally by: Vince Draken
Originally by: TickTackTuck seems like 5/F-E couldnt take the beating they got in the last days and got some new "friends". Im sure u are now proud of this looking at ur replies here. :)
"great job"
LOL
Just LOL
Everyone can look at the numbers if they want.
We encourage it actually.
in every battle over the last days G/Iron/Rzr and so on where those owning the battlefield after the fights and also those with the better kill ratio so to what exactly do you "lol"?
Kalened's alt?
I'm not gonna argue numbers with you. Anyone who is interested in seeing the truth an find all approperate links a few posts up.
Your losing the war. If you weren't you buddies wouldnt have stepped into help you. Deal with it. 5 has never been a force. You lost down south but ooooh you managed to take out what was left of PA and even then you had to beg FE to turn on them and help you. You're pathetic. I cant wait for your BoB style "planned pullout" when its clear you have no hope of winning.
Keep on postings buddy. It is only gonna help your cause.
Yeah you too.. its not like you can make 5 look any worse LOL
After your 50-2 claim, you already reached china.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

slothe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 23/03/2006 00:43:13 bleh 2
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CKOZUK
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Dawson why they ignoring the 300+ fleet we put togeather?
Why? maybe because your fleets haven't been a factor the first week and you were losing ground then all the sudden the Events team comes to help you and you have a small victory? I can smell fish.
Please can i make a request of? keep posting please, Ive got a bad day at work ahead of me tomorrow and your smack and crying should help me through the day! thanks  |

Kifrile Lezrenack
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:43:00 -
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yes, the 320+ Man gang had NOTHING, NOTHING at all to do with this you know the 5 or so even characters were the only ones that did anything.... Thats Right, the 320 FE members mean nothing, but 5 Event Dreads (which arn't more powerful than normal dreads fyi) EVERYTHING changes  ------------------- |

Dawson
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Dawson why they ignoring the 300+ fleet we put togeather?
Why? maybe because your fleets haven't been a factor the first week and you were losing ground then all the sudden the Events team comes to help you and you have a small victory? I can smell fish.
Had nothing to do with the alliance plans to have everyone BS battle ready in d7 areas? 60-70% of the alliance was NPCing till now.
But i'll shut up now, not a custom to smacking.
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mastamike69
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:43:00 -
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***** ***** moan moan all because you got pwned!!! Pls stop whining, I'm sure you will get some sort of help from the caldary navy or something, besides, it's a f*$% game, get over, get some more forces and come pwn us like you have been doing so readily in the past
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Svett
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:44:00 -
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I just wanted to mention here, that I have an undenyable love for cheese and *****ers.
that is all.
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Aiolos Caci
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:44:00 -
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In the best traditions of true sportsmanship I will give you a tip about the composition of our fleet... Here is a link to the highly classified intel imagery: Satellite Imagery
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:50:00 -
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so, all this effort to take down 1 POS.
How's the gallente elections going?
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul so, all this effort to take down 1 POS.
How's the gallente elections going?

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Ghandalph
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:53:00 -
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so what's the event name Guristas to the Resqu .. why they picked to shot that pos and not a f-e one ?
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CaptainCrunch
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ghandalph so what's the event name Guristas to the Resqu .. why they picked to shot that pos and not a f-e one ?
Gone Beserk
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Roule
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Tanya Kovacs
Originally by: TWD Serpentis event team has also worked together with VC/FA/IMP/Norad against BoB and shot at our POS, nothing special here.
a) in the middle of the night b) in the middle of the week c) 4:1 outnumbered?
Anyway: gj 5/F-E with the "event"-team. Can't remember of such a good timing in other involvements of the "event"-team 
a) i make this early evening for americans b) there is 20000 people online c)what do you expect on our home turf dont like it then dont come here:)
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: CaptainCrunch
Originally by: Ghandalph so what's the event name Guristas to the Resqu .. why they picked to shot that pos and not a f-e one ?
Gone Beserk
LIES
Worlds Collide!
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |

liquidism
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:57:00 -
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so if the pos-offline thingy is bad timing, coincidence or bug-whatever.. but wtf has the event team to do with our war.
and to all the f-e guys so proudly claiming this to be a whining thread.. you would have been wiped from the map long time ago if you had not napped the invading 5 forces and betryayed your former allies. so stfu plz and stop carebearing some systems further out or we might gank even more of your npc'ing/mining fellas.
to 5: you guys have a big bunch of good pilots and get respected for that fact but this we-are-so-frickin-uber-chestbeating is so.. damn funny.
you won the first 2 fleetbattles agaist us because we were not used to your t2-bs-with-t2ammo-only-150+km-sniping-wcs fleet taktic (which efficient but kinda lame imo, props to bob for their always close-range approach btw), but as we adapted our setups.. you know what happened  __________________________________ My Karma just ran over your Dogma. |

Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2006.03.23 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sarmaul so, all this effort to take down 1 POS.
2 atm. Maybe they will attack the third too. Connections 4tw. -- All postings reflects just my personal opinion. |

Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: liquidism so if the pos-offline thingy is bad timing, coincidence or bug-whatever.. but wtf has the event team to do with our war.
and to all the f-e guys so proudly claiming this to be a whining thread.. you would have been wiped from the map long time ago if you had not napped the invading 5 forces and betryayed your former allies. so stfu plz and stop carebearing some systems further out or we might gank even more of your npc'ing/mining fellas.
to 5: you guys have a big bunch of good pilots and get respected for that fact but this we-are-so-frickin-uber-chestbeating is so.. damn funny.
you won the first 2 fleetbattles agaist us because we were not used to your t2-bs-with-t2ammo-only-150+km-sniping-wcs fleet taktic (which efficient but kinda lame imo, props to bob for their always close-range approach btw), but as we adapted our setups.. you know what happened 
yes, we had to jump into your camp (with drones out I might add) and kill pilots before they loaded.
That is worth bragging about.
Btw, I dot think I even own a wcs.
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Robet Katrix
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:03:00 -
[66]
Originally by: liquidism so if the pos-offline thingy is bad timing, coincidence or bug-whatever.. but wtf has the event team to do with our war.
and to all the f-e guys so proudly claiming this to be a whining thread.. you would have been wiped from the map long time ago if you had not napped the invading 5 forces and betryayed your former allies. so stfu plz and stop carebearing some systems further out or we might gank even more of your npc'ing/mining fellas.
to 5: you guys have a big bunch of good pilots and get respected for that fact but this we-are-so-frickin-uber-chestbeating is so.. damn funny.
you won the first 2 fleetbattles agaist us because we were not used to your t2-bs-with-t2ammo-only-150+km-sniping-wcs fleet taktic (which efficient but kinda lame imo, props to bob for their always close-range approach btw), but as we adapted our setups.. you know what happened 
lag?
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Heinky
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:03:00 -
[67]
Roleplay, storyline or whatever they wanna call it.
I personally see it as a cheat that event teams get involved in things that matter in 0.0 fighting.
By the looks of things Fe/5 would have been able to do it on their own, but its still very lame to mix event team dreads/people in, im surprised that 5/fe accepted their help.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:04:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Tanya Kovacs
Originally by: Sarmaul so, all this effort to take down 1 POS.
2 atm. Maybe they will attack the third too. Connections 4tw.
k.
But seriously, how are the Gallente elections going?
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Heinky Roleplay, storyline or whatever they wanna call it.
I personally see it as a cheat that event teams get involved in things that matter in 0.0 fighting.
By the looks of things Fe/5 would have been able to do it on their own, but its still very lame to mix event team dreads/people in, im surprised that 5/fe accepted their help.
Kali
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Nobues
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:05:00 -
[70]
bold statment comming from a alliance who isnt true allies at all. Only time your try to show force is when something doesnt go you way. You didnt help us in the past like real allies should of, so we took action to help our selfs.
We killed 2 alliances, I think its time to kill 2 more.
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:06:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Tanya Kovacs
Originally by: Sarmaul so, all this effort to take down 1 POS.
2 atm. Maybe they will attack the third too. Connections 4tw.
k.
But seriously, how are the Gallente elections going?
Gallente elections are a dev controlled event that needs dev coding content wheras this is just aurora :) ---------------
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WildCard
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:07:00 -
[72]
FE to IRON/G Plz help us vs 5. IRON/G to FE nope, plz fight our own wars. FE then at the same day, 5 u shoot us down so badly plz NAP with us. We share our stations wich G gave last year as gift to us with you. 5 did - compassion i think.
He He, you are realy full of honor. We will see how long it takes till 5 will leave u alone. Sorry FE guys thats all realy a shame. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody-- |

Bombcrater
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:08:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Nobues We killed 2 alliances, I think its time to kill 2 more.
Not without help from your buddies at CCP you won't.
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Sarmaul
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:10:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: Tanya Kovacs
Originally by: Sarmaul so, all this effort to take down 1 POS.
2 atm. Maybe they will attack the third too. Connections 4tw.
k.
But seriously, how are the Gallente elections going?
Gallente elections are a dev controlled event that needs dev coding content wheras this is just aurora :)
quiet you, I'm stealth trolling 
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liquidism
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:11:00 -
[75]
Originally by: WildCard
FE to IRON/G Plz help us vs 5. IRON/G to FE nope, plz fight our own wars. FE then at the same day, 5 u shoot us down so badly plz NAP with us. We share our stations wich G gave last year as gift to us with you. 5 did - compassion i think.
He He, you are realy full of honor. We will see how long it takes till 5 will leave u alone. Sorry FE guys thats all realy a shame.
qft. dunno why 5. even acceped their nap and didnt finish the job by themselves __________________________________ My Karma just ran over your Dogma. |

Nelson Vandermark
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:12:00 -
[76]
SaorAlba, I belive there is an issue with POS as of late, there was a post made in the POS section for the forums as one of the ASCN members was getting pretty tiffy with the amount of time he has been spending online all hes pos, one of the devs responded to this, I think you should have a look, seems like a wide spreed issue, also some people need to calim down a bit 
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liquidism
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:13:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Nobues We killed 2 alliances, I think its time to kill 2 more.
hahahaha!!! classic.. so how exactly did you kill them? was it because you uhm.. backstabbed em or uhm.. because you mined their roids away? __________________________________ My Karma just ran over your Dogma. |

thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:13:00 -
[78]
Originally by: liquidism
Originally by: WildCard
FE to IRON/G Plz help us vs 5. IRON/G to FE nope, plz fight our own wars. FE then at the same day, 5 u shoot us down so badly plz NAP with us. We share our stations wich G gave last year as gift to us with you. 5 did - compassion i think.
He He, you are realy full of honor. We will see how long it takes till 5 will leave u alone. Sorry FE guys thats all realy a shame.
qft. dunno why 5. even acceped their nap and didnt finish the job by themselves
if u think that.. imagine our opinions of Iron.. F-E > 100 * Iron..
Iron barely reach PA standard ffs.. --thoth (aka orbs) [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing... |

Adamus TorK
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:13:00 -
[79]
g: blah blah blah iron: blah blah blah razor: blah blah blah
its just a game, play it, and dont cry
kthxgoodbye ---------------------------------
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:16:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Kalened Well it seems the rumors of 5 having gm's helping them has been confirmed. Grats 5 i guess since you cant win on the battlefield you can win by cheating.
http://www.vspeicher.de/files2/image.gif
Spechialy for u    "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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TickTackTuck
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:17:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Nobues bold statment comming from a alliance who isnt true allies at all. Only time your try to show force is when something doesnt go you way. You didnt help us in the past like real allies should of, so we took action to help our selfs.
We killed 2 alliances, I think its time to kill 2 more.
G/Iron didnt help you? Maybe u missed that they had to fight BoB, ASCN, SA and so on (and werent bad at that) while u, PA and NBSI werent able to stop a single enemy with max 1/5 of your numbers. Blaming others for ur own incompetence is rather funny.
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:20:00 -
[82]
Originally by: WildCard
FE to IRON/G Plz help us vs 5. IRON/G to FE nope, plz fight our own wars. FE then at the same day, 5 u shoot us down so badly plz NAP with us. We share our stations wich G gave last year as gift to us with you. 5 did - compassion i think.
He He, you are realy full of honor. We will see how long it takes till 5 will leave u alone. Sorry FE guys thats all realy a shame.
Do you need a hug ? And if yes , would it help ?  "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Franky B
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:20:00 -
[83]
Had this little skirmish been completely free of event teams, then I wouldnt have felt sore at all for losing the G pos.
but the fact of the matter is, an event team interfered in a KEY system and on a key asset for this conflict. in the past they've not done such a thing (that I know of) and its unacceptable because you get this name calling and favouratism (which is all probably untrue but it tarnishes the name of CCP none the less).
and the circumstances by which the pos was offlined... well I dont have enough information on that, but this is G we're talking about, do you really thing they sustained the war on ASCN by forgetting to fuel their pos? I think an explaination from an event manager would clear a few things up.
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liquidism
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:21:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
http://www.vspeicher.de/files2/image.gif
Spechialy for u   
haha! nice one m8! __________________________________ My Karma just ran over your Dogma. |

ph33rf4ct0ry
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:23:00 -
[85]
Every one does things when they have strenght in numbers or does G and Ir.. NM Does G put up Poses during their offhours?
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Nobues
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:24:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Bombcrater
Originally by: Nobues We killed 2 alliances, I think its time to kill 2 more.
Not without help from your buddies at CCP you won't.
if you counted how many dreads we had there and how many we had on standby we really didnt need there dreads, this was a event, they didnt use any of there powers, they acted just like real players.
Give CCP a break they can play there game sometimes aso.
Its called rollplay and thats just what happen, roll play. (oh just for the info.. nvm.. your just cry more)
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:26:00 -
[87]
"Roleplay, storyline or whatever they wanna call it.
I personally see it as a cheat that event teams get involved in things that matter in 0.0 fighting.
By the looks of things Fe/5 would have been able to do it on their own, but its still very lame to mix event team dreads/people in, im surprised that 5/fe accepted their help."
Well, northern alliances had no qualms earlier about assembling fleets to travel south and assist their friends Serpentis in assault on BoB installations.
So i can't really see why there's so much crying about "GM interference in 0.0 politics" and whatnot, when the shoe is for a change on the other foot.
Someone go and ask Grand Admiral Junset, maybe he has few free minutes when he's not busy losing carriers and other capital ships, and can send in some help against the Guristas...
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:39:00 -
[88]
hahah but the pos gave u a proper fight.
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Dave Tehsulei
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:40:00 -
[89]
Gms and "event" teams should play no part in pos take downs... ever
theres plenty of other ways to have npc events without hurting one side in any conflict so significantly
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Bombcrater
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:41:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Franky B I think an explaination from an event manager would clear a few things up.
That would make an interesting read, to say the least, but it won't happen and we all know that. How do you explain that you cheated?
I've no doubt somebody in the events team will get their wrists slapped for what happened in D7, and be told to make their aid to FE/5 less obvious next time... 
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:43:00 -
[91]
;s wonder what lost more isk wise the pos or the ships that died to it
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:44:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Dave Tehsulei Gms and "event" teams should play no part in pos take downs... ever
theres plenty of other ways to have npc events without hurting one side in any conflict so significantly
then we can sack the whole event thing right away as players will literally get their "safespot" no matter how the event goes.
Dont forget the events team is hardly 30 ppl strong and will (npc spawns aside) never field a fleet able to compete with even the smallest player driven alliance fleet out there. Putting a Pos into reinforced mode doesnt cost anything bar some fuel and leaves space for some action when the pos comes out (be it with or without event guys present). However dont forget in both cases Poses were attacked the npc faction had significant player support as warping in 10 dreads wouldnt cut it anyways.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:48:00 -
[93]
I feel so sorry for the event teams. All the effort they put into trying to inject some NPC interactions and some fun into Eve, and what do they get? Whiners. 
Im surprised the CEO's of some of your corps (with the exception of Wildcard), haven't told some of you guys to stfu, cause there's a few people really dragging their corps names through the mud here.  ---
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:50:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Angelus X I feel so sorry for the event teams. All the effort they put into trying to inject some NPC interactions and some fun into Eve, and what do they get? Whiners. 
Im surprised the CEO's of some of your corps (with the exception of Wildcard), haven't told some of you guys to stfu, cause there's a few people really dragging their corps names through the mud here. 
how is shooting a pos interaction?
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Adelai Niska
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:51:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Adelai Niska on 23/03/2006 01:52:49 The event was definitely done in order to shift the balance in the war. It was the price F-E named, when the Guristas asked something of us for their own purposes. As far as I know, it was done as a result of the territory we claim, not our ally to the northwest, and any GMs they may or may not have playing.
As for the POS - I wouldn't discount spies, there, if you have your permissions screwed up. [5] uses them extensively, as we found out in our war against them.
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:54:00 -
[96]
Originally by: liquidism
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
http://www.vspeicher.de/files2/image.gif
Spechialy for u   
haha! nice one m8!
uw 
Come on ppl event is done , further smack wont change a thing , just a clue  "What ever that doesnt Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Gyro DuAquin1
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Posted - 2006.03.23 01:57:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Adelai Niska Edited by: Adelai Niska on 23/03/2006 01:52:49 The event was definitely done in order to shift the balance in the war. It was the price F-E named, when the Guristas asked something of us for their own purposes. As far as I know, it was done as a result of the territory we claim, not our ally to the northwest, and any GMs they may or may not have playing.
As for the POS - I wouldn't discount spies, there, if you have your permissions screwed up. [5] uses them extensively, as we found out in our war against them.
The balance, are u kidding me?
We have G Iron Rzr vs 5 FE and Kaos both have several other corps with them so the balance was quiet ok.
About DNs when u have so many y r u losing BS to a pos.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:01:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
We have G Iron Rzr vs 5 FE and Kaos both have several other corps with them so the balance was quiet ok.
mhm the iron guys say your pwning.. and you say ur even.. who is lying? --thoth (aka orbs) [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:01:00 -
[99]
so people scream allot "OMG CCP GIVE US CONTENT!!!11oneone" and when they decide to give some roleplay content that can even interact with player-made content you come scream "OMG NOT FAIR!"
...well tough luck. They are playing the game too, aren't they? ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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csebal
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:06:00 -
[100]
Originally by: liquidism
and to all the f-e guys so proudly claiming this to be a whining thread.. you would have been wiped from the map long time ago if you had not napped the invading 5 forces and betryayed your former allies. so stfu plz and stop carebearing some systems further out or we might gank even more of your npc'ing/mining fellas.
Our "invaders" have shown more friendship, loyalty and help in just a few weeks than our former "allies" did in months.
Sure i regret the decision of our leadership.. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe. |
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:09:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1
About DNs when u have so many y r u losing BS to a pos.
We fully expected to lose a lot of them. They are after all expendable.
However, if you need to find some comfort in a pos killing some of the battleships (hello 300 in gang - lag?) then its fine by me.
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Sionn Klorgh
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:14:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 23/03/2006 02:15:14 Quite a few alliances have taken losses at the hands of factional warfare yet you're the first to publicly cry about it.
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:20:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Sionn Klorgh Edited by: Sionn Klorgh on 23/03/2006 02:15:14 Quite a few alliances have taken losses at the hands of factional warfare yet you're the first to publicly cry about it.
what other alliances have had npcs interfere with a sov dispute?
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Robet Katrix
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:24:00 -
[104]
we had a gang of over THREE HUNDRED including a half dozen dreads (non-npc)
you really think the Gurista dreads did anything otehr than spead up the inevitable by 3-4 minutes per POS?
As usual you killed a few battleships, big deal in this war most of our losses have been more so to lag than you as was the case with most of the battleship pilots who lost their ships.
at least when BOB had an event happen against them they took it in stride and tryed to enjoy it a little.
Publicly WHINING about a few guristas among HUNDREDS is an injustice to your alliances.
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:28:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Robet Katrix we had a gang of over THREE HUNDRED including a half dozen dreads (non-npc)
you really think the Gurista dreads did anything otehr than spead up the inevitable by 3-4 minutes per POS?
As usual you killed a few battleships, big deal in this war most of our losses have been more so to lag than you as was the case with most of the battleship pilots who lost their ships.
at least when BOB had an event happen against them they took it in stride and tryed to enjoy it a little.
Publicly WHINING about a few guristas among HUNDREDS is an injustice to your alliances.
if 5 dreads are so useless why did you bring your own?
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Svett
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:29:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 hahah but the pos gave u a proper fight.
i had that geddion for a full week 
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:33:00 -
[107]
OMFG you have got to be kidding me?
G and IRON will happily send fleets to support the event team attacking BoB POS's but when it happens to you we get forum crying? LOL
Deal with it. We did.
So you're saying that you don't have the ability to deal with this? rofl.
Onoes it's a challenge, it's made difficult for us *cry*.
/me chuckles a lot
Eve Blacklight Style
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Robet Katrix
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:38:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Xanta
Originally by: Robet Katrix we had a gang of over THREE HUNDRED including a half dozen dreads (non-npc)
you really think the Gurista dreads did anything otehr than spead up the inevitable by 3-4 minutes per POS?
As usual you killed a few battleships, big deal in this war most of our losses have been more so to lag than you as was the case with most of the battleship pilots who lost their ships.
at least when BOB had an event happen against them they took it in stride and tryed to enjoy it a little.
Publicly WHINING about a few guristas among HUNDREDS is an injustice to your alliances.
if 5 dreads are so useless why did you bring your own?
its cool to look at, why else would we?
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Roule
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:38:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Xanta
Originally by: Robet Katrix we had a gang of over THREE HUNDRED including a half dozen dreads (non-npc)
you really think the Gurista dreads did anything otehr than spead up the inevitable by 3-4 minutes per POS?
As usual you killed a few battleships, big deal in this war most of our losses have been more so to lag than you as was the case with most of the battleship pilots who lost their ships.
at least when BOB had an event happen against them they took it in stride and tryed to enjoy it a little.
Publicly WHINING about a few guristas among HUNDREDS is an injustice to your alliances.
if 5 dreads are so useless why did you bring your own?
He said 5 dreads were nothing compared to the 7 dreads we had, the 8 on standby in the station and the 340 support BSs,Hacs, Frigs we had there
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Drilla
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:43:00 -
[110]
Lol - it's been a while since I've seen such whinery, keep it coming IRON it's entertaining and gives me something to do at work (that would be laugh).
FivE > GIRON
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:44:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Drilla Lol - it's been a while since I've seen such whinery, keep it coming IRON it's entertaining and gives me something to do at work (that would be laugh).
FivE > GIRON
2 iron members posted in this thread ;s
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TickTackTuck
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:45:00 -
[112]
there are just 2 F-E dreads firing now on the iron pos while there are 8 Guristas dreads.
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:46:00 -
[113]
3 i guess then :/
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xbreaka
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:49:00 -
[114]
i wouldnt have really cared cept for the fact that 99% of g is offline atm, and its not like you can counter the gms but you cant do **** about it cause they have the omnipotent excuse weapon.. they just tell one of their stopryline writers to make a reasoable story to back up their actions
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:50:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Blacklight OMFG you have got to be kidding me?
G and IRON will happily send fleets to support the event team attacking BoB POS's but when it happens to you we get forum crying? LOL
Deal with it. We did.
So you're saying that you don't have the ability to deal with this? rofl.
Onoes it's a challenge, it's made difficult for us *cry*.
/me chuckles a lot
Didn't know that they sent fleets down to help the serps attack BOB... In that case it makes this seem a little contradictory.
But I'll stand behind what I said in anouther threat. I don't think the event team should be taking sides in a regional conflict. While I know that thier presence didn't make a differance, in anouther situation it may.
As of right now, D7 is perhaps what is the hieght of what this game can offer. We've done a great job at making our own content involving thousands of players. Do we need the event team to step in and help us? No not really.
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Nobues
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:51:00 -
[116]
G/IRON, look guys you arnt the center of eve, not everything rolls around you. In the past when FE called for you help you gave us nothing, In the past when we called for your help you just told of how to set up some pos and some other info that is alot of cases usless.
In the past when we needed your help your didnt give it, you in other words said tuff luck and looked the other way and called us allies.
I'm sorry, but allies give help and doesnt cry about it. So FE and -5- are a good match for each other. So we stoped fighting each other and started to help each other. It worked outed and we are now very storng allies.
Becouse of that you "once" allies are trying to kill us. I do have to said you put up a few good fights but we do have a good size allies up here and if I may be so bold, we will not take that crop from anyone who comes in our space and trys to bark out orders.
I'm sorry you will leave or you will die.
As far as the Event today, we invited them to come to our space and "help US" with this pos take down, were was going to do this even if this event happen or not. They had 5 or so dreads, we had 10 or so, and a few on standby.
This is just a game, and if the GM's, dev's want to have some fun, FE will fight, and -5- will fight and all our north allies will fight so they will be have to play as real players and have there fun aso. They made it and they have every last right to play it aso.
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TickTackTuck
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:57:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Nobues G/IRON, look guys you arnt the center of eve, not everything rolls around you. In the past when FE called for you help you gave us nothing, In the past when we called for your help you just told of how to set up some pos and some other info that is alot of cases usless.
In the past when we needed your help your didnt give it, you in other words said tuff luck and looked the other way and called us allies.
U totaly seem to ignore that G/Iron were the only thing which stopped BoB/ASCN/SE/SA and others from killing the north. G/Iron are small compared to F-E/.5. or F-E/PA/NBSI before so how can u expect that they not only have to stop BoB and co but also need to help u against .5.? U had with PA and NBSI at least 5 times more members and still couldnt handle them. So maybe u should start to think about urself before blaming G/Iron for not helping you. Its not like .5. crushed you or even invaded F-E space, u simply chose the easy way and allied the enemy.
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Kantar
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Posted - 2006.03.23 02:59:00 -
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:01:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Kantar http://www.imgdump.net/images2/6b660fb9.gif

the word event seems to be in the thread title :/
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Civik
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:02:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Dawson
Originally by: Kalened
Originally by: Dawson why they ignoring the 300+ fleet we put togeather?
Why? maybe because your fleets haven't been a factor the first week and you were losing ground then all the sudden the Events team comes to help you and you have a small victory? I can smell fish.
Had nothing to do with the alliance plans to have everyone BS battle ready in d7 areas? 60-70% of the alliance was NPCing till now.
But i'll shut up now, not a custom to smacking.
nullHad nothing to do with the alliance plans to have everyone BS battle ready in d7 areas? 60-70% of the alliance was NPCing till now.
And yet u manage to get GURISTAS? Guristas NPC in TRIBUTE correct?
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:23:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Lorth Stuff
Lorth mate we had motherships, dreads and carriers putting our most remote and hardest to resond to POS's into reinforced and multiple attacks on us at home.
We dealt with it.
G came down every time they saw an opportunity to hit us so this is just "waaaaaagh" in extremis.
Zero sympathy.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:23:00 -
[122]
so many alts in this thread 
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Black Lotus
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:46:00 -
[123]
IMO, guristas made no real difference.
This all goes back several months ago. And iron\g have no one to blame but themselves.
G\iron shouldve dealt with the .5. while they still had fe as allies.
I give .5. alot of credit for coming to the north, and gaining alot of power, politically, and militarily.
Im not sour, as i was only in nbsi about 3 weeks before nbsi lost tenal.
However even when i was in kaos, i couldnt figure out why g\iron were not stepping in, when .5. was able to take d7, and was pushing hard on FE. FE allying with the .5. has made them tremendously stronger. Before fe only had numbers. Now fe has numbers, and is starting to gain skill from being around experienced fleet combat players .5. , g\iron missed their chance to stop this all.
So imo, im sure g\iron will eventually get what they deserve. And i seen it coming months ago, espicially when fe\5 allied. A sandwich. U know, i know, everyone knows. BoB is gonna be the bread on one side, fe\5 will be the bread on the other side, and in the middle u have the nice tasty meat... g\iron.
I honestly dont know wtf u guys (g\iron) were thinking, or how the hell u didnt see this coming.
And u'll be even worse off if ascn decides to be the mayo, and come up threw the middle.
U shot ur own foot off. U didnt need any allies remember? Now u cry about a few guristas, that made no difference, and in the end will not be there when u lose ur space.
Gotta say amazing job to the .5. ( and i dont mean this event, i mean the past 6 months).
50% of a super-power is military, the other 50% is brains. .5., and BoB have both. G\Iron only have the first half.
And dont get me wrong, i am definatly not pro-FE, ask any FE, they surely know. I am just stating the truth. G\iron COULD HAVE annialated FE. But u waited FAR to long, and that time has passed.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:48:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Lorth Stuff
Lorth mate we had motherships, dreads and carriers putting our most remote and hardest to resond to POS's into reinforced and multiple attacks on us at home.
We dealt with it.
G came down every time they saw an opportunity to hit us so this is just "waaaaaagh" in extremis.
Zero sympathy.
I know. I just currently don't like the way the event team takes sides in a conflict. Having random dreads carriers and mother ships showing up at random times, with no player involvment.
Its a topic for anouther thread though. But for the record I don't like the way the event team currently works. Nor do I think factional war fare should continue along the same path. Players interacting with other players >>>> players interacting with the event team.
Give us the tools to make our own content, rather then give us 'NPC' content.
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Vina
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:50:00 -
[125]
cry more iron/g. -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |

madhapee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 03:56:00 -
[126]
lol
guys stop fighting and drool over the awesome screeny that I made :
330+ gang aligning for enemy pos <========= GO CHECK NOW!
Amazing fleet! Truly I do not think the Guristas made much of a difference but of course it was cool they were helping us. I am sure IRON/G will get their favour too someday.
Hey also kudos for the 40ish IRON/G fleet jumping in on us and trying to kill the dreads. That takes balls. Respect.
Awesome night :)
(btw you have to check that screeny, it is really cool)

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XunamoR
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:01:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Black Lotus IMO, guristas made no real difference.
This all goes back several months ago. And iron\g have no one to blame but themselves.
G\iron shouldve dealt with the .5. while they still had fe as allies.
I give .5. alot of credit for coming to the north, and gaining alot of power, politically, and militarily.
Im not sour, as i was only in nbsi about 3 weeks before nbsi lost tenal.
However even when i was in kaos, i couldnt figure out why g\iron were not stepping in, when .5. was able to take d7, and was pushing hard on FE. FE allying with the .5. has made them tremendously stronger. Before fe only had numbers. Now fe has numbers, and is starting to gain skill from being around experienced fleet combat players .5. , g\iron missed their chance to stop this all.
So imo, im sure g\iron will eventually get what they deserve. And i seen it coming months ago, espicially when fe\5 allied. A sandwich. U know, i know, everyone knows. BoB is gonna be the bread on one side, fe\5 will be the bread on the other side, and in the middle u have the nice tasty meat... g\iron.
I honestly dont know wtf u guys (g\iron) were thinking, or how the hell u didnt see this coming.
And u'll be even worse off if ascn decides to be the mayo, and come up threw the middle.
U shot ur own foot off. U didnt need any allies remember? Now u cry about a few guristas, that made no difference, and in the end will not be there when u lose ur space.
Gotta say amazing job to the .5. ( and i dont mean this event, i mean the past 6 months).
50% of a super-power is military, the other 50% is brains. .5., and BoB have both. G\Iron only have the first half.
And dont get me wrong, i am definatly not pro-FE, ask any FE, they surely know. I am just stating the truth. G\iron COULD HAVE annialated FE. But u waited FAR to long, and that time has passed.
qft tbh
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Chilli Pepper
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:05:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Black Lotus IMO, guristas made no real difference.
This all goes back several months ago. And iron\g have no one to blame but themselves.
G\iron shouldve dealt with the .5. while they still had fe as allies.
I give .5. alot of credit for coming to the north, and gaining alot of power, politically, and militarily.
Im not sour, as i was only in nbsi about 3 weeks before nbsi lost tenal.
However even when i was in kaos, i couldnt figure out why g\iron were not stepping in, when .5. was able to take d7, and was pushing hard on FE. FE allying with the .5. has made them tremendously stronger. Before fe only had numbers. Now fe has numbers, and is starting to gain skill from being around experienced fleet combat players .5. , g\iron missed their chance to stop this all.
So imo, im sure g\iron will eventually get what they deserve. And i seen it coming months ago, espicially when fe\5 allied. A sandwich. U know, i know, everyone knows. BoB is gonna be the bread on one side, fe\5 will be the bread on the other side, and in the middle u have the nice tasty meat... g\iron.
I honestly dont know wtf u guys (g\iron) were thinking, or how the hell u didnt see this coming.
And u'll be even worse off if ascn decides to be the mayo, and come up threw the middle.
U shot ur own foot off. U didnt need any allies remember? Now u cry about a few guristas, that made no difference, and in the end will not be there when u lose ur space.
Gotta say amazing job to the .5. ( and i dont mean this event, i mean the past 6 months).
50% of a super-power is military, the other 50% is brains. .5., and BoB have both. G\Iron only have the first half.
And dont get me wrong, i am definatly not pro-FE, ask any FE, they surely know. I am just stating the truth. G\iron COULD HAVE annialated FE. But u waited FAR to long, and that time has passed.
Someone with a clue and he's NBSI. Respect for telling the truth. There's hope for you yet. 
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Xenu
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:24:00 -
[129]
i almost turned down that offer for a Tech II Tissue BPO. glad i took it, after today i'm going to be filthy rich.
WTS: Tech II Tissues in D7, special bulk discounts for G/Iron ________________________________________________________
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Svett
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Posted - 2006.03.23 04:37:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Xenu i almost turned down that offer for a Tech II Tissue BPO. glad i took it, after today i'm going to be filthy rich.
WTS: Tech II Tissues in D7, special bulk discounts for G/Iron
you dirty bugger, i was researching mine before selling any 
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:28:00 -
[131]
If 5/FE had not formed a large enough fleet with dreads I might have felt some sympathy for G/IRON. But it seemed that the outcome would have remained the same.
All aside, I think NPC factions should stay out of warfare that involves alliances/sovereignty.
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:50:00 -
[132]
Can everyone stop flaming each other for a second or is that an unreasonable request on this section of the forum.
There is a LEGITIMATE question here:
In the case of the serpentis attacking BoB (which was somewhat unfair), BoB at least had POSs in Serpentis complex systems and claimed sovereignty over Serpentis occupid areas so there was an RP reason for the Serpentis to attack them?
Why would the Guristas attack G/IRON? If anything don't FE play the role BoB does against the serpentis? They hold stations in multiple areas with Guristas NPCs, so why exactly are the Guristas siding with the defending force here instead of the attacking force (like FA/IMP/NORAD/VC against BoB)?
If there is a legitimate explanation that I have missed would someone please enlighten me.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.03.23 05:52:00 -
[133]
Originally by: madhapee lol
guys stop fighting and drool over the awesome screeny that I made :
330+ gang aligning for enemy pos <========= GO CHECK NOW!
Amazing fleet! Truly I do not think the Guristas made much of a difference but of course it was cool they were helping us. I am sure IRON/G will get their favour too someday.
Hey also kudos for the 40ish IRON/G fleet jumping in on us and trying to kill the dreads. That takes balls. Respect.
Awesome night :)
(btw you have to check that screeny, it is really cool)
Was that a Wyvern or a Phoenix ... just looks like an odd angle.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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LadyScarlet
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:01:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Baun Can everyone stop flaming each other for a second or is that an unreasonable request on this section of the forum.
There is a LEGITIMATE question here:
In the case of the serpentis attacking BoB (which was somewhat unfair), BoB at least had POSs in Serpentis complex systems and claimed sovereignty over Serpentis occupid areas so there was an RP reason for the Serpentis to attack them?
Why would the Guristas attack G/IRON? If anything don't FE play the role BoB does against the serpentis? They hold stations in multiple areas with Guristas NPCs, so why exactly are the Guristas siding with the defending force here instead of the attacking force (like FA/IMP/NORAD/VC against BoB)?
If there is a legitimate explanation that I have missed would someone please enlighten me.
apprently they did try to work with other orgnizations in the area before and thier missions were not fruitfull .
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Adelai Niska
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:02:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Baun Can everyone stop flaming each other for a second or is that an unreasonable request on this section of the forum.
There is a LEGITIMATE question here:
In the case of the serpentis attacking BoB (which was somewhat unfair), BoB at least had POSs in Serpentis complex systems and claimed sovereignty over Serpentis occupid areas so there was an RP reason for the Serpentis to attack them?
Why would the Guristas attack G/IRON? If anything don't FE play the role BoB does against the serpentis? They hold stations in multiple areas with Guristas NPCs, so why exactly are the Guristas siding with the defending force here instead of the attacking force (like FA/IMP/NORAD/VC against BoB)?
If there is a legitimate explanation that I have missed would someone please enlighten me.
A Guristas rep contacted F-E and asked F-E's price for assistance with 'something'. D7 was our price.
'Something', I'm not privy to say.
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:05:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Adelai Niska
Originally by: Baun Can everyone stop flaming each other for a second or is that an unreasonable request on this section of the forum.
There is a LEGITIMATE question here:
In the case of the serpentis attacking BoB (which was somewhat unfair), BoB at least had POSs in Serpentis complex systems and claimed sovereignty over Serpentis occupid areas so there was an RP reason for the Serpentis to attack them?
Why would the Guristas attack G/IRON? If anything don't FE play the role BoB does against the serpentis? They hold stations in multiple areas with Guristas NPCs, so why exactly are the Guristas siding with the defending force here instead of the attacking force (like FA/IMP/NORAD/VC against BoB)?
If there is a legitimate explanation that I have missed would someone please enlighten me.
A Guristas rep contacted F-E and asked F-E's price for assistance with 'something'. D7 was our price.
'Something', I'm not privy to say.
Whats the lifetime of that agreement? Will they defend D7 with you forever? Does it extend to H-W and IMK?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:06:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: madhapee lol
guys stop fighting and drool over the awesome screeny that I made :
330+ gang aligning for enemy pos <========= GO CHECK NOW!
Amazing fleet! Truly I do not think the Guristas made much of a difference but of course it was cool they were helping us. I am sure IRON/G will get their favour too someday.
Hey also kudos for the 40ish IRON/G fleet jumping in on us and trying to kill the dreads. That takes balls. Respect.
Awesome night :)
(btw you have to check that screeny, it is really cool)
Was that a Wyvern or a Phoenix ... just looks like an odd angle.
It should be a Phonix.
Whats that distorted Moros looking thing next to it?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:06:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Baun
Originally by: madhapee lol
guys stop fighting and drool over the awesome screeny that I made :
330+ gang aligning for enemy pos <========= GO CHECK NOW!
Amazing fleet! Truly I do not think the Guristas made much of a difference but of course it was cool they were helping us. I am sure IRON/G will get their favour too someday.
Hey also kudos for the 40ish IRON/G fleet jumping in on us and trying to kill the dreads. That takes balls. Respect.
Awesome night :)
(btw you have to check that screeny, it is really cool)
Was that a Wyvern or a Phoenix ... just looks like an odd angle.
It should be a Phonix.
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:09:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Baun Can everyone stop flaming each other for a second or is that an unreasonable request on this section of the forum.
There is a LEGITIMATE question here:
In the case of the serpentis attacking BoB (which was somewhat unfair), BoB at least had POSs in Serpentis complex systems and claimed sovereignty over Serpentis occupid areas so there was an RP reason for the Serpentis to attack them?
Why would the Guristas attack G/IRON? If anything don't FE play the role BoB does against the serpentis? They hold stations in multiple areas with Guristas NPCs, so why exactly are the Guristas siding with the defending force here instead of the attacking force (like FA/IMP/NORAD/VC against BoB)?
If there is a legitimate explanation that I have missed would someone please enlighten me.
So far i have heard 3 different stories of the "why", i suppose we'll know for sure once the ISD News are out. An ISD guy was watching for several hours so i am already curious on the upcoming article.
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:13:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Baun Whats that distorted Moros looking thing next to it?
Bit hard to disconcern, but i think its the Naglfar, or another Phonix from a very wierd angle. (Dreads from all 4 races were used)
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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aeti
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:15:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 23/03/2006 06:05:58
Originally by: madhapee lol
guys stop fighting and drool over the awesome screeny that I made :
330+ gang aligning for enemy pos <========= GO CHECK NOW!
Amazing fleet! Truly I do not think the Guristas made much of a difference but of course it was cool they were helping us. I am sure IRON/G will get their favour too someday.
Hey also kudos for the 40ish IRON/G fleet jumping in on us and trying to kill the dreads. That takes balls. Respect.
Awesome night :)
(btw you have to check that screeny, it is really cool)
Was that a Wyvern or a Phoenix ... just looks like an odd angle.
Edit: Assuming that a Moros next to it it has to be a Wyvern.
front ship is a chimera other one is a phoenix
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:19:00 -
[142]
doh pwned by aeti, i guess i am too tired from start to end it lasted like 7-8h?
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Adelai Niska
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:21:00 -
[143]
Edited by: Adelai Niska on 23/03/2006 06:22:57
Originally by: Baun
Whats the lifetime of that agreement? Will they defend D7 with you forever? Does it extend to H-W and IMK?
I prefer to leave some things as a mystery :)
Just wanted to get out that the only reason for Guristas involvement was because they wanted something that we had - their helping us in certain areas was our idea.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:52:00 -
[144]
Erm...just a few short question:
1. If you're so convienced about your "almighty 300+ fleet" you gathered there (gratz to that, has to be cool to be part of such a fleet!), why didn't you managed to gather them a few weeks before AGAINST .5.? Were these BS still being build?
2. As far as i know from the forums/news the gueristas had good standing towards RZR in Pure Blind...why did that changed that fast?
Just to add: I don't like it, if event staff is involved in "local situations", either in BoB's case or in this...these local conflicts don't have anything to do with any ongoing storyline!
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.03.23 06:54:00 -
[145]
Originally by: aeti
Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 23/03/2006 06:05:58
Originally by: madhapee lol
guys stop fighting and drool over the awesome screeny that I made :
330+ gang aligning for enemy pos <========= GO CHECK NOW!
Amazing fleet! Truly I do not think the Guristas made much of a difference but of course it was cool they were helping us. I am sure IRON/G will get their favour too someday.
Hey also kudos for the 40ish IRON/G fleet jumping in on us and trying to kill the dreads. That takes balls. Respect.
Awesome night :)
(btw you have to check that screeny, it is really cool)
Was that a Wyvern or a Phoenix ... just looks like an odd angle.
Edit: Assuming that a Moros next to it it has to be a Wyvern.
front ship is a chimera other one is a phoenix
Weird angle on the chimera then, ED's looked nothing like that up close :p
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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H0tChick
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:21:00 -
[146]
WTS : Napkin BPO ... discount for g iron razor since they need it badly
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:25:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Fred0 Well the BOB situation is simply not comparable. You had Delve strictly under control, a temporary invasion by the serpentis isn't going to change that.
The d7 situation is a conflict that is so far hanging in the balance. At that junction it is very bad of ccp to step into the conflict and try to tilt it. I can't believe they did it still tbh.
Also, when the event team has done things in the past it's not been the same flash in the pan that suddenly just strikes. The serpentis and Mordu's campaigns have been brewing with a buildup for people to get an idea of what will happen. People have been notified beforehand to build an understanding etc. This event just seems like some FE/5 gm's on a powertrip tbh.
Anyways.... see you in d7 in the evening 
CCP still owes 5 BIG time for Teneriffis. So if you think this is a powertrip you have no ******* clue what went on there. If I posted the GM logs CCP would prolly have to fire half their GM team. It would also obviously prove to everyone that we does not have any GMs in 5, cus ifwe did have any GMs, the Tene incident would never have happened.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:26:00 -
[148]
Originally by: H0tChick WTS : Napkin BPO ... discount for g iron razor since they need it badly
WTS: Balls...to post with your main...you really need them!
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Adelai Niska
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:29:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Doragee
I don't like it, if event staff is involved in "local situations", either in BoB's case or in this...these local conflicts don't have anything to do with any ongoing storyline!
I said before, the assistance with the local conflict is F-E's price for F-E's assistance in a storyline matter.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:31:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Adelai Niska
Originally by: Doragee
I said before, the assistance with the local conflict is F-E's price for F-E's assistance in a storyline matter.
So you're going to tell me, that if i do a favour to the event team, they'll return this in a really bad situation?
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ssmarius
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:31:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: H0tChick WTS : Napkin BPO ... discount for g iron razor since they need it badly
WTS: Balls...to post with your main...you really need them!
sry ... the other char was selected .. well this is my main ... happy ? but g still needs a napkin bpo ...
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Bukowski
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:35:00 -
[152]
Originally by: SengH CCP still owes 5 BIG time for Teneriffis. So if you think this is a powertrip you have no ******* clue what went on there. If I posted the GM logs CCP would prolly have to fire half their GM team. It would also obviously prove to everyone that we does not have any GMs in 5, cus ifwe did have any GMs, the Tene incident would never have happened.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:35:00 -
[153]
Originally by: ssmarius
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: H0tChick WTS : Napkin BPO ... discount for g iron razor since they need it badly
WTS: Balls...to post with your main...you really need them!
sry ... the other char was selected .. well this is my main ... happy ? but g still needs a napkin bpo ...
Much better...
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:36:00 -
[154]
good morning
there was a event? cool I think I was sleeping, like 99% of G 
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:38:00 -
[155]
Originally by: SengH CCP still owes 5 BIG time for Teneriffis. So if you think this is a powertrip you have no ******* clue what went on there. If I posted the GM logs CCP would prolly have to fire half their GM team. It would also obviously prove to everyone that we does not have any GMs in 5, cus ifwe did have any GMs, the Tene incident would never have happened.
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member. ---
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:39:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Nafri good morning
there was a event? cool I think I was sleeping, like 99% of G 
Didnt I see you in one of the POS's? 
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:45:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Black Lotus IMO, guristas made no real difference.
This all goes back several months ago. And iron\g have no one to blame but themselves.
G\iron shouldve dealt with the .5. while they still had fe as allies.
I give .5. alot of credit for coming to the north, and gaining alot of power, politically, and militarily.
Im not sour, as i was only in nbsi about 3 weeks before nbsi lost tenal.
However even when i was in kaos, i couldnt figure out why g\iron were not stepping in, when .5. was able to take d7, and was pushing hard on FE. FE allying with the .5. has made them tremendously stronger. Before fe only had numbers. Now fe has numbers, and is starting to gain skill from being around experienced fleet combat players .5. , g\iron missed their chance to stop this all.
So imo, im sure g\iron will eventually get what they deserve. And i seen it coming months ago, espicially when fe\5 allied. A sandwich. U know, i know, everyone knows. BoB is gonna be the bread on one side, fe\5 will be the bread on the other side, and in the middle u have the nice tasty meat... g\iron.
I honestly dont know wtf u guys (g\iron) were thinking, or how the hell u didnt see this coming.
And u'll be even worse off if ascn decides to be the mayo, and come up threw the middle.
U shot ur own foot off. U didnt need any allies remember? Now u cry about a few guristas, that made no difference, and in the end will not be there when u lose ur space.
Gotta say amazing job to the .5. ( and i dont mean this event, i mean the past 6 months).
50% of a super-power is military, the other 50% is brains. .5., and BoB have both. G\Iron only have the first half.
And dont get me wrong, i am definatly not pro-FE, ask any FE, they surely know. I am just stating the truth. G\iron COULD HAVE annialated FE. But u waited FAR to long, and that time has passed.
Excellant post.
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:46:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Fred0
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member.
After the Tene incident, I find any claims of there being GM's in 5 absurd. Especially after the 3 months of **** I had to go through due to the GM's action/inaction and retraction/contradiction of their own words. Only for the petition to be "resolved" with a "I'm sorry we ****** up and were too lazy to correct the mistake even though its our fault.. GG" . If anything, their biased against 5. So stop ******* claiming that there are GM's in 5 and shove it up your ass.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:48:00 -
[159]
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Fred0
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member.
After the Tene incident, I find any claims of there being GM's in 5 absurd. Especially after the 3 months of **** I had to go through due to the GM's action/inaction and retraction/contradiction of their own words. Only for the petition to be "resolved" with a "I'm sorry we ****** up and were too lazy to correct the mistake even though its our fault.. GG" . If anything, their biased against 5. So stop ******* claiming that there are GM's in 5 and shove it up your ass.
Aren't GM's and the Event team separate persons?
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SengH
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Fred0
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member.
After the Tene incident, I find any claims of there being GM's in 5 absurd. Especially after the 3 months of **** I had to go through due to the GM's action/inaction and retraction/contradiction of their own words. Only for the petition to be "resolved" with a "I'm sorry we ****** up and were too lazy to correct the mistake even though its our fault.. GG" . If anything, their biased against 5. So stop ******* claiming that there are GM's in 5 and shove it up your ass.
Aren't GM's and the Event team separate persons?
read what he wrote above... he stated that there were GM's not ISD/aurora.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:55:00 -
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Dunno if it was mentioned before ... but can anyone tell me a link for a description to the event?? If it's a roleplay-event there should be some form of description by the aurora team - or am i wrong?? I'm interested in such eve-storyline things.
thx _________________________________________
Originally by: Skellibjalla Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
Originally by: Tool - Hush I can't say what I want to,even if I'm not serious.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte Dunno if it was mentioned before ... but can anyone tell me a link for a description to the event?? If it's a roleplay-event there should be some form of description by the aurora team - or am i wrong?? I'm interested in such eve-storyline things.
thx
That's what i'm also wanted to know...as there seems absolutly NO "official report" or so and that's why i was hopping into this thread.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Nafri good morning
there was a event? cool I think I was sleeping, like 99% of G 
Didnt I see you in one of the POS's? 
I logged on at 01.00 to change skills, logged off at 01.20 or so. Heard on TS about a event, noticed lagg, thought "WTF, bleh let them do" and went to bed to sleep 
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.03.23 07:58:00 -
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good post saor, you somehow always manage to make g look like fools.
dbp
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Fred0
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member.
After the Tene incident, I find any claims of there being GM's in 5 absurd. Especially after the 3 months of **** I had to go through due to the GM's action/inaction and retraction/contradiction of their own words. Only for the petition to be "resolved" with a "I'm sorry we ****** up and were too lazy to correct the mistake even though its our fault.. GG" . If anything, their biased against 5. So stop ******* claiming that there are GM's in 5 and shove it up your ass.
Aren't GM's and the Event team separate persons?
read what he wrote above... he stated that there were GM's not ISD/aurora.
people have problems to seperate GMs and ISD/aurora. ISD/aurora are just normal players, and I would be suprised if noone of F-E or -5- is them, like from most other big alliances (Even G have might some, but most of us speak terrible english).
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:02:00 -
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Well obviously I was talking about the event team  ---
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:02:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Fred0
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member.
After the Tene incident, I find any claims of there being GM's in 5 absurd. Especially after the 3 months of **** I had to go through due to the GM's action/inaction and retraction/contradiction of their own words. Only for the petition to be "resolved" with a "I'm sorry we ****** up and were too lazy to correct the mistake even though its our fault.. GG" . If anything, their biased against 5. So stop ******* claiming that there are GM's in 5 and shove it up your ass.
Aren't GM's and the Event team separate persons?
read what he wrote above... he stated that there were GM's not ISD/aurora.
people have problems to seperate GMs and ISD/aurora. ISD/aurora are just normal players, and I would be suprised if noone of F-E or -5- is them, like from most other big alliances (Even G have might some, but most of us speak terrible english).
Ok, thx...and in D7-ZAC the ISD/Aurora team was involved?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:04:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Fred0
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member.
After the Tene incident, I find any claims of there being GM's in 5 absurd. Especially after the 3 months of **** I had to go through due to the GM's action/inaction and retraction/contradiction of their own words. Only for the petition to be "resolved" with a "I'm sorry we ****** up and were too lazy to correct the mistake even though its our fault.. GG" . If anything, their biased against 5. So stop ******* claiming that there are GM's in 5 and shove it up your ass.
Aren't GM's and the Event team separate persons?
read what he wrote above... he stated that there were GM's not ISD/aurora.
people have problems to seperate GMs and ISD/aurora. ISD/aurora are just normal players, and I would be suprised if noone of F-E or -5- is them, like from most other big alliances (Even G have might some, but most of us speak terrible english).
Ok, thx...and in D7-ZAC the ISD/Aurora team was involved?
Yeah, thats was what I was told, also I saw green letters in local when I was online at 01.00 GTM +1, so thats the event team. GMs have blue letters as I remember.
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Malikton
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:07:00 -
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Seems to me that this kind of interaction from event teams will be an increasing part of the game in the run up to Kali release.
In all probability the timing and deployment was deliberately gauged not to be crucial or critical to the eventual outcome.
I suspect that every major Alliance will both benefit and suffer from these events, but not sufficiently to skew the outcome of their own player-driven-content.
Looking forward to seeing who and how the Jovians will interact.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:08:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Fred0
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member.
After the Tene incident, I find any claims of there being GM's in 5 absurd. Especially after the 3 months of **** I had to go through due to the GM's action/inaction and retraction/contradiction of their own words. Only for the petition to be "resolved" with a "I'm sorry we ****** up and were too lazy to correct the mistake even though its our fault.. GG" . If anything, their biased against 5. So stop ******* claiming that there are GM's in 5 and shove it up your ass.
Aren't GM's and the Event team separate persons?
read what he wrote above... he stated that there were GM's not ISD/aurora.
people have problems to seperate GMs and ISD/aurora. ISD/aurora are just normal players, and I would be suprised if noone of F-E or -5- is them, like from most other big alliances (Even G have might some, but most of us speak terrible english).
Ok, thx...and in D7-ZAC the ISD/Aurora team was involved?
Yeah, thats was what I was told, also I saw green letters in local when I was online at 01.00 GTM +1, so thats the event team. GMs have blue letters as I remember.
In this case someone could say...the mayority within the event team seems to be pro-.5./FE. G has to get more/better ppl into "them"...
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Jadeon
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:08:00 -
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If the story about the involvement of the event team in the off lining of the POS is true then it is quite lame. There are zillions of other systems to hold an "event" unless of course the aim is not to have an event but to serve another purpose.
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Moominer
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:09:00 -
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Edited by: Moominer on 23/03/2006 08:14:38 Have [5] ever had the misfortune of an AURORA event going sour on them? Nearly ever major whine thread I see about AURORA events, [5] always seem to have come out on the good side. Maybe I am wrong, probably so, but you must be exceedingly good roleplayers? 
I have to agree with the posts above questioning why AURORA feel the need to get involved in local politics to this level. Content regarding claiming of none-NPC soverign regions should be of no concern to the NPC factions. It should be player content and player content alone that drives the soverignty and conflicts in the these regions.
Theres a line that needs drawing here and I believe it's been crossed, not just here but by the sounds of it before against BoB too.
(ps: The gurista assistance clearly made little impact to the final composition of the fleet, it was obviously the vast majority was 5/FE friendlies. However, it would be interesting to see if so many would have gathered if the AURORA event teams was not present)
(edited out "single pos": thanks Nafri! damn my ignorance ) Eve Fitting Manager
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:10:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Doragee
Originally by: SengH
Originally by: Fred0
This is exactly what I was afraid of and I spelled out. This does not make it a prettier picture coming from a 5 member.
After the Tene incident, I find any claims of there being GM's in 5 absurd. Especially after the 3 months of **** I had to go through due to the GM's action/inaction and retraction/contradiction of their own words. Only for the petition to be "resolved" with a "I'm sorry we ****** up and were too lazy to correct the mistake even though its our fault.. GG" . If anything, their biased against 5. So stop ******* claiming that there are GM's in 5 and shove it up your ass.
Aren't GM's and the Event team separate persons?
read what he wrote above... he stated that there were GM's not ISD/aurora.
people have problems to seperate GMs and ISD/aurora. ISD/aurora are just normal players, and I would be suprised if noone of F-E or -5- is them, like from most other big alliances (Even G have might some, but most of us speak terrible english).
Ok, thx...and in D7-ZAC the ISD/Aurora team was involved?
Yeah, thats was what I was told, also I saw green letters in local when I was online at 01.00 GTM +1, so thats the event team. GMs have blue letters as I remember.
In this case someone could say...the mayority within the event team seems to be pro-.5./FE. G has to get more/better ppl into "them"...
Wouldnt say that, BoB also got screawed in a major way. It all depenends on the guys who are allowed to plan events and what kind of weed thy smoked.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:12:00 -
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Originally by: Moominer Have [5] ever had the misfortune of an AURORA event going sour on them? Nearly ever major whine thread I see about AURORA events, [5] always seem to have come out on the good side. Maybe I am wrong, probably so, but you must be exceedingly good roleplayers? 
I have to agree with the posts above questioning why AURORA feel the need to get involved in local politics to this level. Content regarding claiming of none-NPC soverign regions should be of no concern to the NPC factions. It should be player content and player content alone that drives the soverignty and conflicts in the these regions.
Theres a line that needs drawing here and I believe it's been crossed, not just here but by the sounds of it before against BoB too.
(ps: The gurista assistance clearly made little impact to the final composition of the fleet, it was obviously the vast majority was 5/FE friendlies. However, it would be interesting to see if so many would have gathered to reinforce a single POS if the AURORA event teams was not present)
There was/is more than a single POS, but yeah you cant really tell. But at least thy would have used their own strontium 
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri There was/is more than a single POS, but yeah you cant really tell. But at least thy would have used their own strontium 
actually besides the first POS we supplied the strontium for the Guristas Dreads
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:17:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Nafri There was/is more than a single POS, but yeah you cant really tell. But at least thy would have used their own strontium 
actually besides the first POS we supplied the strontium for the Guristas Dreads
then the torps 
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:19:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Nafri There was/is more than a single POS, but yeah you cant really tell. But at least thy would have used their own strontium 
actually besides the first POS we supplied the strontium for the Guristas Dreads
then the torps 
we had haulers screaming offering Torps like traders in an arabian bazaar, the Guristas said no thanks 
i think 1 or 2 of our haulers cried after that
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:20:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Nafri on 23/03/2006 08:21:41
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Tiuwaz
Originally by: Nafri There was/is more than a single POS, but yeah you cant really tell. But at least thy would have used their own strontium 
actually besides the first POS we supplied the strontium for the Guristas Dreads
then the torps 
we had haulers screaming offering Torps like traders in an arabian bazaar, the Guristas said no thanks 
i think 1 or 2 of our haulers cried after that
poor haulers, thy got no hauling event 
Well I had a "zzZZzzZZzzZZzzZZ damm refuse collection *closes window" ZzZz lets check forums: oRly?" event 
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri poor haulers, thy got no hauling event 
yeh those poor haulers always loose out 
Originally by: Nafri Well I had a "zzZZzzZZzzZZzzZZ damm refuse collection *closes window" ZzZz lets check forums: oRly?" event 

Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Arctic Angel
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:28:00 -
[180]
Originally by: liquidism
and to all the f-e guys so proudly claiming this to be a whining thread.. you would have been wiped from the map long time ago if you had not napped the invading 5 forces and betryayed your former allies.
Like you did to PA and NBSI? I thought G was the only fair and righteous alliance ever 
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:33:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Arctic Angel
Originally by: liquidism
and to all the f-e guys so proudly claiming this to be a whining thread.. you would have been wiped from the map long time ago if you had not napped the invading 5 forces and betryayed your former allies.
Like you did to PA and NBSI? I thought G was the only fair and righteous alliance ever 
No, like they did to HU since 11 months & 23 days...alts 4tl...
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: SaorAlba Edited by: SaorAlba on 23/03/2006 00:09:31 This evening our POS at planet 5 moon 1 suddenly goes offline. We online it again and loose the modules. New goodies are flown in and put online. Lokal schoots up to 400 and there is the event team. While -G- is lagged out the event team starts to work with dreads on the POS together with FE/5. My quistions are following. Did you logged off the POS? and secondly, Why do you involve in a regional conflict?
Greetz, Alba.
Karma backfiring?
This is the ghost of the bugged AZN pos returning for vengeance tbh.
I do agree it sucks tho, when it happened to us it felt outraageous.
(p.s.: I only read the first post)
- Gob
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Bizarre
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:44:00 -
[183]
lol @ IRON + G. I LOVE WOTANKN
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Shirei
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:53:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig This is the ghost of the bugged AZN pos returning for vengeance tbh.
I do agree it sucks tho, when it happened to us it felt outraageous.
(p.s.: I only read the first post)
Except nothing really happened with that bugged POS, except that it took a petition about 6-12 hours after it should have come out of reinforced mode to actually get it out of reinforced mode.. After that it was perfectly normal and vulnerable until it recharged to 50% shield for quite a few hours - while you had the superiority in the system but didn't bother to check the POS. 
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Tanya Kovacs
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Posted - 2006.03.23 08:59:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Moominer (ps: The gurista assistance clearly made little impact to the final composition of the fleet, it was obviously the vast majority was 5/FE friendlies. However, it would be interesting to see if so many would have gathered if the AURORA event teams was not present)
That's the point:
5/F-E knew about the so called "event", G/IRON didn't. Majority of G was sleeping during the "event" (so it was just a private party for 5/F-E), so I'm pretty curious about the great "roleplaying news" of ISD... Anyway: the so called "event" gave them the chance to mobilize a lot of ppl (I guess so many ppl on our side too would make it worth to call it an event, but this would cause a nodecrash I guess) and the Guristas catched some fire so more 5/F-E-ships survived.
To the F-E bragging about some few Guristas-Dreads and your inflationary amount of Dreads: On a screenshot I count 5 5/F-E Dreads and 8 Gurista-Dreads?
Uh and to Aurora: you should really practice your storytelling, as far as I could see, there were two amateurish "roleplaying"-statements (nearly original quote: "We have to kill somebody, because we didn't for some time") in local after we loled at the overkill. That was all  -- All postings reflects just my personal opinion. |

pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Doragee Erm...just a few short question:
1. If you're so convienced about your "almighty 300+ fleet" you gathered there (gratz to that, has to be cool to be part of such a fleet!), why didn't you managed to gather them a few weeks before AGAINST .5.? Were these BS still being build?
We were. It just so happend at the time we were fighting a two front pos war and had no dreads. That really wasnt working out so well. It wasnt that we couldnt put fleets together. we were getting +100 fleets everyday and doing ok with them. Its just that we have Morhus Mihi (who are no joke) pos waring us in imk and the5 pos waring us in d7. They both had dreads parked in our refinery systems while our 'allies' we doing other things and the situation was deemed unwinable. So we found a better solution. We are all glad we did too. (id like to say 'i told you so' to everyone who doubted me at the time)
2. As far as i know from the forums/news the gueristas had good standing towards RZR in Pure Blind...why did that changed that fast?
Originally by: Doragee
Just to add: I don't like it, if event staff is involved in "local situations", either in BoB's case or in this...these local conflicts don't have anything to do with any ongoing storyline!
Well G/Iron seem to only have a problem with it when it doesnt favor them. Its a shame how they are making themselves look like crybabies in this thread.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:13:00 -
[187]
Originally by: DB Preacher good post saor, you somehow always manage to make g look like fools.
dbp
You really think they need help with that?
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:15:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Jadeon If the story about the involvement of the event team in the off lining of the POS is true then it is quite lame.
The event team didnt offline the pos
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HordeZla
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:19:00 -
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Edited by: HordeZla on 23/03/2006 09:19:32
Originally by: Jadeon If the story about the involvement of the event team in the off lining of the POS is true then it is quite lame.
More then all I hate idiots that think they know everything and publicly blame ppl as in this caise. Its allways easiest to throw rock at someone. Scumbag is all i can say. And for that you will vanished in next cupple of month...creep ------------------------------------------------
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:28:00 -
[190]
Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 23/03/2006 09:31:58
Originally by: HordeZla Edited by: HordeZla on 23/03/2006 09:19:32
Originally by: Jadeon If the story about the involvement of the event team in the off lining of the POS is true then it is quite lame.
More then all I hate idiots that think they know everything and publicly blame ppl as in this caise. Its allways easiest to throw rock at someone. Scumbag is all i can say. And for that you will vanished in next cupple of month...creep
Calm down ... i know the quote can be called a "tinfoil-hat theory" 
At first we thought it was a bug caused by the CTD of one of our alliancemembers when he fueled up the POS .. then we thought it was a bug at all ... the managers of the POS can't be blamed - afaik you get a eve-mail if your POS runs out of fuel .. they never got such a mail.
But with the involvement of Aurora under some "interesting" circumstances in 0.0 "politics" it's no wonder when some weird theories grow. So stop insulting people for their thoughts. thx _________________________________________
Originally by: Skellibjalla Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
Originally by: Tool - Hush I can't say what I want to,even if I'm not serious.
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 09:52:00 -
[191]
Guristas Involvment:
no effect on outcome + big reactions = successful event
Originally by: Oveur ****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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SMercer
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:04:00 -
[192]
what i dont get is your acting like if it qwasnt for gurstilias event we wouldnt of beat you well thats a lie right there. 320 odd in gang withour the event team all the event team did was help us speed up the process of bringing you down.
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Fillmeup
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:15:00 -
[193]
There are so many underlying themes in this thread, it's turned into a mess.
Whether .5. is leet/lame or FE are backstabbing honourless souls is of no consequence. What is at stake within the game is worth more than either of these claims by any side of the argument.
Basically, I think the underlying question has been glossed over. How is the Event Team able to justify this type of action? If there is a 'Guristas demands sovereignty of one of FE's home systems, and in return gains assistance for an attack' type of reason, then fair enough. However, anything less imho is a fairly weak basis for this type of action.
My issue with this is there is no way anyone can mount an operation against the Guristas worth any merit. If they had a HQ 'G' could take and keep, then it would be justifiable. However, their assistance with .5./FE has no recourse, and that is the underlying issue.
If it happened to Bob before, well I don't agree with that either. It shouldn't happen whatsoever, especially on this scale of pre-planning, and at the time that they chose. The offlining of the POS was most probably a spy, and while I think these types of 'people' (and I use that term very loosely) are honourless, I understand that it is within game design and therefore acceptable.
It is clearly understandable to anyone with a clue why people are annoyed with this - it is so open to interpretation and claims of favouritism etc due to the target, time chosen and the follow-ups in this very thread. All people within the game are supposed to be treated equally, with no side disadvantaged through CCP interaction.
Anyway, if you (5/FE) could choose what you could have in return for this 'favour', why didn't u want a couple of Titans? I know I would prefer that than helping blow up 2 POS's and lose a bunch of ships anyway. With the fleet you brought, you *should* be able to achieve that all on your own :)
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:20:00 -
[194]
FE cannot comment on the terms of our nap with the guristas at this time.
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csebal
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:25:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Black Lotus
However even when i was in kaos, i couldnt figure out why g\iron were not stepping in, when .5. was able to take d7, and was pushing hard on FE. FE allying with the .5. has made them tremendously stronger. Before fe only had numbers. Now fe has numbers, and is starting to gain skill from being around experienced fleet combat players .5. , g\iron missed their chance to stop this all.
An interesting POV indeed, but so true. G/IRON seemed to think we are weak, while in reality we were simply exhausted from all the fighting on two fronts.
Instead of coming to our aid, they abandoned us, opening up the way for finding new allies.
Whether we win or lose does not matter for me. The last few weeks have given me a new life in this game. Whatever happens, it'll certainly be fun.
Personally i think the G/IRON are doomed to fail. As you've said it, they are the meat between two hostile fronts, and the grinding machine is just about to start up. Then again, my opinion is obviously biased, so take it for what it is, my expectations on the outcome of this conflict. My post does not represent the general or official opinion of HUN corp, or The Forsaken Empire. No matter what YOU believe. |

Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:29:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Fillmeup Anyway, if you (5/FE) could choose what you could have in return for this 'favour', why didn't u want a couple of Titans? I know I would prefer that than helping blow up 2 POS's and lose a bunch of ships anyway. With the fleet you brought, you *should* be able to achieve that all on your own :)
quiet simple, its called roleplaying. If we had told some gurista guy "hey we want 20 titans, a mothership, 100 faction bs and that you kill every player north of here instantly" im sure the guy would have laughed and went off, noting to not approach us again for an event.
The problem with roleplaying in eve is that some ppl are to daft or dont have any interest in the story. If they hear event they think "gain" and "free loot" instead of "a story and fun". If you recall the events in the south, bob got "nothing" apart from some loot and "capital kills" from their events while suffering losses and getting into the storyline. The titan event created huge losses with little gain apart from standing adjustments for the future. That is what roleplaying is about. If youre just in for the benjamins then these events are deffinately not the right thing for you. They are not meant as money cows for players to milk. In short, its more likely youll lose money in an event then gain. Just remember all the faction bs killed in the tourney while only the top4 teams got prizes.
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csebal
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Doragee
1. If you're so convienced about your "almighty 300+ fleet" you gathered there (gratz to that, has to be cool to be part of such a fleet!), why didn't you managed to gather them a few weeks before AGAINST .5.? Were these BS still being build?
We all know, that without the reinforce node, our gang alone would have been enough to crash the server.
It was a very special occasion, in that we managed to get a fleet this big together, without any major lag.
A day i'll certainly remember for quite some time :) Unless CCP does something to make this the NEW STANDARD of EVE.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.03.23 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim quiet simple, its called roleplaying. If we had told some gurista guy "hey we want 20 titans, a mothership, 100 faction bs and that you kill every player north of here instantly" im sure the guy would have laughed and went off, noting to not approach us again for an event.
The problem with roleplaying in eve is that some ppl are to daft or dont have any interest in the story. If they hear event they think "gain" and "free loot" instead of "a story and fun". If you recall the events in the south, bob got "nothing" apart from some loot and "capital kills" from their events while suffering losses and getting into the storyline. The titan event created huge losses with little gain apart from standing adjustments for the future. That is what roleplaying is about. If youre just in for the benjamins then these events are deffinately not the right thing for you. They are not meant as money cows for players to milk. In short, its more likely youll lose money in an event then gain. Just remember all the faction bs killed in the tourney while only the top4 teams got prizes.
Well....'til now, i can't see ANY roleplay at all! There was no article/information/whatever from ISD/Aurora for their resaons and how can a npc-faction be nap'd when half of your alliance is still hunting them for their income?? Roleplay sometimes suck...sorry...
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Fillmeup
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Fillmeup Anyway, if you (5/FE) could choose what you could have in return for this 'favour', why didn't u want a couple of Titans? I know I would prefer that than helping blow up 2 POS's and lose a bunch of ships anyway. With the fleet you brought, you *should* be able to achieve that all on your own :)
quiet simple, its called roleplaying. If we had told some gurista guy "hey we want 20 titans, a mothership, 100 faction bs and that you kill every player north of here instantly" im sure the guy would have laughed and went off, noting to not approach us again for an event.
The problem with roleplaying in eve is that some ppl are to daft or dont have any interest in the story. If they hear event they think "gain" and "free loot" instead of "a story and fun". If you recall the events in the south, bob got "nothing" apart from some loot and "capital kills" from their events while suffering losses and getting into the storyline. The titan event created huge losses with little gain apart from standing adjustments for the future. That is what roleplaying is about. If youre just in for the benjamins then these events are deffinately not the right thing for you. They are not meant as money cows for players to milk. In short, its more likely youll lose money in an event then gain. Just remember all the faction bs killed in the tourney while only the top4 teams got prizes.
Tbh, I don't think I mentioned losses or money or anything of that nature. What I was referring to is CCP interfearing in something and how I don't believe that is in the interests of the game when cdonducted in this manner. Roleplaying is fine if there are, like with all of EVE, two sides that more or less balance each other out. If Concord had offered assistance to 'G' at the same time as the Guristas did with FE, then this thread wouldn't exist, and roleplay would be great. This I am sure a few on both sides wouldn't mind seeing.
Roleplaying isn't what you mentioned above, it is about adding depth to the game. It simply isn't about losing stuff, or winning stuff, it is about creating something that expands this alternate reality we all reside in. What my post was about was based on the understanding that what transpired couldn't easily be integrated into any reasonable roleplay without a number of people crying foul. Much like the Bob and their incident on this forum have conveyed.
By going off on this tangent you have missed the point completely. If the deal struck between FE and the Gurista guys lead to a single Titan remote detonating all of G's pos's in enemy territory would that be reasonable? Or if the gates stopped allowing all 'G' reinforcements from entering the system? Conversly, if Concorde joined the fray tomorrow, sent a new 'firmware' to all .5./FE ships powering them down whilst G/IRON slaughtered them, would that be alright under the guise of roleplay? I mean, where does one draw the line?
Oh, and I am sure if you had asked for all of that crap you mentioned above, you would have been laughed out. It was added to lighten up an otherwise serious post. 
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slothe
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Posted - 2006.03.23 11:55:00 -
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i have to agree with black lotus for the first time ever his post sums the situation up nicely.
and as to guristas being biased, if you knew the details of the involvement youd know they werent.
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:02:00 -
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Although I find it mildly irritating that CCP/event peeps would interfere in what was an entertaining 'event' in it's own right without their involvement.... my main concern is over the apparent beefing up of the node. Was that solely based on their participation and to make sure they had an entertaining evening or will that continue till this conflict is resolved? Most of my losses so far have been down to server lag and inability to activate modules (well ok the 43 BS on my last deathmail wasn't exactly helpful either but hey :p), would be nice to have a semi lag free fight at some point.
On another note, can the forum warriors chill with the chest beatin for now? This fight is far from over, yea last night may have been a set back whatever the circumstances but this will be a long drawn out battle of wills as well as firepower. Let's wait till the end of it all before we let the fat lass sing her song. ---------------------------------------------- We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and clap as they go by |

Balazs Simon
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tanya Kovacs
Originally by: Moominer (ps: The gurista assistance clearly made little impact to the final composition of the fleet, it was obviously the vast majority was 5/FE friendlies. However, it would be interesting to see if so many would have gathered if the AURORA event teams was not present)
That's the point:
5/F-E knew about the so called "event", G/IRON didn't. Majority of G was sleeping during the "event" (so it was just a private party for 5/F-E), so I'm pretty curious about the great "roleplaying news" of ISD... Anyway: the so called "event" gave them the chance to mobilize a lot of ppl (I guess so many ppl on our side too would make it worth to call it an event, but this would cause a nodecrash I guess) and the Guristas catched some fire so more 5/F-E-ships survived.
To the F-E bragging about some few Guristas-Dreads and your inflationary amount of Dreads: On a screenshot I count 5 5/F-E Dreads and 8 Gurista-Dreads?
Uh and to Aurora: you should really practice your storytelling, as far as I could see, there were two amateurish "roleplaying"-statements (nearly original quote: "We have to kill somebody, because we didn't for some time") in local after we loled at the overkill. That was all 
They were roleplaying.... all night... you know how fun is refueling Gurista dreads in RP mode ?? Even the gang disband / reinvites was rp-ed with communiction problems, pod softwer faliurs and solar flare effects 
It was great fun! And I can tell you those gurista guys are blood thirsty... and they like pritty explosions! Yarrr.. - POST WITH YOUR MAIN!
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calabration
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Posted - 2006.03.23 12:54:00 -
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The real debate here should be if and on what terms the event team gets involved in alliance politics. I would much prefer to see them stay well clear of having any significant influence on claimed alliance space. To me this would mean the actions should be limited to NPC claimed space in 0.0 and in empire.
I dont really see the reasons of 1) its happened before or 2) they are allowed to have fun aswell (they do mostly have real accounts as well)
as being either informed and justifiable reasons for there involvement outside of claimed NPC space. There actions ending up ifluenceing in any way which PC alliance claim space is always going to give rise of bias this in itself should be a good enough reason to stay well clear of such actions. very old player returning |

Jadeon
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Posted - 2006.03.23 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: HordeZla Edited by: HordeZla on 23/03/2006 09:19:32
Originally by: Jadeon If the story about the involvement of the event team in the off lining of the POS is true then it is quite lame.
More then all I hate idiots that think they know everything and publicly blame ppl as in this caise. Its allways easiest to throw rock at someone. Scumbag is all i can say. And for that you will vanished in next cupple of month...creep
It would be expecting too much from you to know the meaning of the word "If" based on the general tone and style of your post. Scumbag ? Creep ? When was the last time you had your rabies shot ? You are a one-man recruitment team for G and IRON "if" you are a representative of your alliance.
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.03.23 14:47:00 -
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blablablablabla!!11eleven!! blupblup!
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petergriffen
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Moominer Edited by: Moominer on 23/03/2006 08:14:38 Have [5] ever had the misfortune of an AURORA event going sour on them? Nearly ever major whine thread I see about AURORA events, [5] always seem to have come out on the good side. Maybe I am wrong, probably so, but you must be exceedingly good roleplayers? 
I have to agree with the posts above questioning why AURORA feel the need to get involved in local politics to this level. Content regarding claiming of none-NPC soverign regions should be of no concern to the NPC factions. It should be player content and player content alone that drives the soverignty and conflicts in the these regions.
Theres a line that needs drawing here and I believe it's been crossed, not just here but by the sounds of it before against BoB too.
(ps: The gurista assistance clearly made little impact to the final composition of the fleet, it was obviously the vast majority was 5/FE friendlies. However, it would be interesting to see if so many would have gathered if the AURORA event teams was not present)
(edited out "single pos": thanks Nafri! damn my ignorance )
It should be noted that by the time the Guristas showed up, F-E/5/ATUK/KAOS had already amassed a fleet of well over 250. We were gathering for probably 2 and a half, maybe 3 hours before the inital attack.
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Koronos
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "Roleplay, storyline or whatever they wanna call it.
I personally see it as a cheat that event teams get involved in things that matter in 0.0 fighting.
By the looks of things Fe/5 would have been able to do it on their own, but its still very lame to mix event team dreads/people in, im surprised that 5/fe accepted their help."
Well, northern alliances had no qualms earlier about assembling fleets to travel south and assist their friends Serpentis in assault on BoB installations.
So i can't really see why there's so much crying about "GM interference in 0.0 politics" and whatnot, when the shoe is for a change on the other foot.
Someone go and ask Grand Admiral Junset, maybe he has few free minutes when he's not busy losing carriers and other capital ships, and can send in some help against the Guristas...
Owned, tbh. not sure why this thread continued after this post.
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Heinky
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine "Roleplay, storyline or whatever they wanna call it.
I personally see it as a cheat that event teams get involved in things that matter in 0.0 fighting.
By the looks of things Fe/5 would have been able to do it on their own, but its still very lame to mix event team dreads/people in, im surprised that 5/fe accepted their help."
Well, northern alliances had no qualms earlier about assembling fleets to travel south and assist their friends Serpentis in assault on BoB installations.
So i can't really see why there's so much crying about "GM interference in 0.0 politics" and whatnot, when the shoe is for a change on the other foot.
Someone go and ask Grand Admiral Junset, maybe he has few free minutes when he's not busy losing carriers and other capital ships, and can send in some help against the Guristas...
yes,
im againts the whole event team thing, doesnt matter if it againts g/iron , bob or someone else.
Also where is the roleplay part in all this ? I thought fe and 5 claim space that gurista are sup to own and they kill 1000,s of them every day when npcing, why would anyone help someone that kills them alot ?
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:45:00 -
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"im againts the whole event team thing, doesnt matter if it againts g/iron , bob or someone else."
Correct me if am wrong, but didn't BE have some sort of fight with Serpentis themselves, recently? Or was that the spinoff alliance thing that thedragoon is currently in... i recall couple threads posted about it, and the tone was anything but complaining how CCP gets involved in players' affairs. ^^;;
"Also where is the roleplay part in all this ? I thought fe and 5 claim space that gurista are sup to own and they kill 1000,s of them every day when npcing, why would anyone help someone that kills them alot ?"
From the comments made in this thread and others so far, it sounds like the Gurista wanted something bad, and their assistance with the attack was price 5/FE set on granting them whatever it was they wanted o.O
Guess we'll eventually find some more about it in time... or not.
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Kantar
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Kantar on 23/03/2006 15:54:50 Toooo Many Complains pls step in to my office....
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:02:00 -
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i cant belive all the whinnig...
when finally we get events ppl decide to whine about it...
i am sure if u ask the g/iron/razor ppl that actually showed them self last night had alot of fun
use these events to have fun and stop the damn whining...
Bringing pain to a place near you
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sir JoJo i cant belive all the whinnig...
when finally we get events ppl decide to whine about it...
Yea i'm sure your happy as pie! It benifited you and F-E but I bet as soon as something does not benifit you, we will hear you "whinning"
Then again when have ever the .5. been on the bad side of an event? I think never. _______________________________ Waa it still too big not by much tho |

Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Wizzkidy
Originally by: Sir JoJo i cant belive all the whinnig...
when finally we get events ppl decide to whine about it...
Yea i'm sure your happy as pie! It benifited you and F-E but I bet as soon as something does not benifit you, we will hear you "whinning"
Then again when have ever the .5. been on the bad side of an event? I think never.
I think you need a new tinfoil hat since the one you're using now seems to be worn out letting all these conspiracy theories in.
Oh and .5. and BoB have been on the losing side of events. BoB has even been attacked by Serps with help from your G/IRON allies. Get your facts straight before you spout garbage on the forums.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sir JoJo i am sure if u ask the g/iron/razor ppl that actually showed them self last night had alot of fun
To be honest we were bored to death... 4h sitting on a POS, listenning the lady on TS saying "member left", unable to do anything because of the lack of numbers and trying to understand why you're fleet was taking so much time to strike ...
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Wizzkidy
Originally by: Sir JoJo i cant belive all the whinnig...
when finally we get events ppl decide to whine about it...
Yea i'm sure your happy as pie! It benifited you and F-E but I bet as soon as something does not benifit you, we will hear you "whinning"
Then again when have ever the .5. been on the bad side of an event? I think never.
I think you need a new tinfoil hat since the one you're using now seems to be worn out letting all these conspiracy theories in.
Oh and .5. and BoB have been on the losing side of events. BoB has even been attacked by Serps with help from your G/IRON allies. Get your facts straight before you spout garbage on the forums.
Jesus, leave me alone but still.... Do you even read my posts or just scan them and not even take in what I type? Please read them first and post a reply thats worth reading please. Mine might be a whine but jesus please read it and respond normally _______________________________ Waa it still too big not by much tho |

Darken Two
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Wizzkidy
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Wizzkidy
Originally by: Sir JoJo i cant belive all the whinnig...
when finally we get events ppl decide to whine about it...
Yea i'm sure your happy as pie! It benifited you and F-E but I bet as soon as something does not benifit you, we will hear you "whinning"
Then again when have ever the .5. been on the bad side of an event? I think never.
I think you need a new tinfoil hat since the one you're using now seems to be worn out letting all these conspiracy theories in.
Oh and .5. and BoB have been on the losing side of events. BoB has even been attacked by Serps with help from your G/IRON allies. Get your facts straight before you spout garbage on the forums.
Jesus, leave me alone but still.... Do you even read my posts or just scan them and not even take in what I type? Please read them first and post a reply thats worth reading please. Mine might be a whine but jesus please read it and respond normally
Perhaps you should check up on facts before you make statements like ".5. have never been on the bad side of an event" or sumin similar. Accusing them of being GM's without providing any proof also falls in that category.
Originally by: Blind Fear Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Wizzkidy
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Wizzkidy
Originally by: Darken Two
Originally by: Wizzkidy
Originally by: Sir JoJo i cant belive all the whinnig...
when finally we get events ppl decide to whine about it...
Yea i'm sure your happy as pie! It benifited you and F-E but I bet as soon as something does not benifit you, we will hear you "whinning"
Then again when have ever the .5. been on the bad side of an event? I think never.
I think you need a new tinfoil hat since the one you're using now seems to be worn out letting all these conspiracy theories in.
Oh and .5. and BoB have been on the losing side of events. BoB has even been attacked by Serps with help from your G/IRON allies. Get your facts straight before you spout garbage on the forums.
Jesus, leave me alone but still.... Do you even read my posts or just scan them and not even take in what I type? Please read them first and post a reply thats worth reading please. Mine might be a whine but jesus please read it and respond normally
Perhaps you should check up on facts before you make statements like ".5. have never been on the bad side of an event" or sumin similar. Accusing them of being GM's without providing any proof also falls in that category.
I would mate but I have seen some dodgy stuff (when I was part of F-E before the nap and after) and now this load of s*** It's something that no one can prove I give you that but that does not mean it aint happening. I have little time to speak to people with your attitude so this will be my last post (Plus I wanna go home from work, I'm bored :D ) _______________________________ Waa it still too big not by much tho |
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Abdalion

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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:46:00 -
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Redundant.
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