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Tennessee Jack	Posted - 2006.03.23 03:42:00 - [1] I'd like to start him playing Eve-Online, and I think this would be good incentive. So I was wondering, is it ok if I create a Power of 2 Account, and Give him That 2nd Account? Also when the 6 months is up, will he be able to pay it on his own or will I have to do it? Thanks.
Dr Laura	Posted - 2006.03.23 12:35:00 - [2] I wont tell anybody if you don't.
Fark	Posted - 2006.03.23 13:09:00 - [3] When you pay fo ^2 its a one off payment and a suscription isnt set-up this has to be done later. And in account settup you enter account holders name, there is nothing stopping you entering your friends.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.03.23 14:59:00 - [4] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 23/03/2006 14:59:49 Power of 2 accounts should have one owner. If CCP check and find out (different IP's, differetn creadit cards, different account owner details for all i care), they'll close both accounts. So, no, you can't. Power to the players !
Corunna ElMan	Posted - 2006.03.23 17:02:00 - [5] A different IP would prove nothing. How many people play EVE from work and at home? I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I couldn't care less what you think of me - all that matters is this: Can you defend your opinions?
Tennessee Jack	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:45:00 - [6] Edited by: Tennessee Jack on 23/03/2006 18:47:18 Edited by: Tennessee Jack on 23/03/2006 18:46:42 Ok.. well if I start the account under my own information, and after the 6 months are up (he's going away for a while, Japan actually), can I transfer all the account information from the 2nd account I have to him? From my understanding, its ok to have a person use a 2nd account as long as you don't expect any support or reimbursment from the company if they do bad things on it. Its somewhat of a faith based system, and isn't supported, but is it illegal? ( For Instance: lets say you get a Power of 2 Account, and give it to your girlfriend. Would that be ok? Also lets say after 6 months, she decides she wants to pay for the account from her own pocket, would THAT be ok?)
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.03.23 18:47:00 - [7] Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 23/03/2006 14:59:49 Power of 2 accounts should have one owner. If CCP check and find out (different IP's, differetn creadit cards, different account owner details for all i care), they'll close both accounts. So, no, you can't. Quote: # The original owner of an account is firstly, the owner of the boxed CD key, and in case of online purchase the original creator of an account. # Accounts can not change ownership. If you have received an account second hand, the original owner can still claim ownership of this account. Nothing in there about closing accounts.
Marcus Aurelius	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:04:00 - [8] Edited by: Marcus Aurelius on 23/03/2006 19:04:15 Yawn Just take it from me ok ? Transfering complete accounts is not allowed, as it is a conduit for ebaying of gamestuffs. CCP will step in if they ever see proof of you tranfering account ownership.
Kylania	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:27:00 - [9] Originally by: Corunna ElMan A different IP would prove nothing. How many people play EVE from work and at home? Not different, active characters online at the same time. -- Lil Miner
Gornax Garrul	Posted - 2006.03.23 19:54:00 - [10] Start P^2 account and let friend play on it. At the end of the 6 months, friend starts his own account and you transfer the character to that one. ** People like you make me want to access your brain and type "rm -rf /*"
Suren Segolia	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:01:00 - [11] Originally by: Kylania Not different, active characters online at the same time. But how about those that have 2 pc's and play our P^2 account on that second pc at the same time? Or did I mis-read your post? Sorry, Suren.
Tennessee Jack	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:17:00 - [12] Edited by: Tennessee Jack on 23/03/2006 20:20:45 Originally by: Marcus Aurelius Edited by: Marcus Aurelius on 23/03/2006 19:04:15 Yawn Just take it from me ok ? Transfering complete accounts is not allowed, as it is a conduit for ebaying of gamestuffs. CCP will step in if they ever see proof of you tranfering account ownership. Wait a minute. Thats a bit of a Catch 22. Now it is Fine to Transfer Characters Between Accounts (you don't have to own both to do this). So if you create a account, play it for 6 months, then "Give" it to a friend. Thats bad. But if you transfer the Character to their own setup account, thats fine (in which the only difference is the extra cost of starting a new account (which is 5 bucks extra), and the cost of the character transfer (10 dollars?). So according to what you said, transfering accounts is illegal, but transfering the character (which contains all the money, skill, items, etc etc etc) to another account is fine. I just want to make sure I understand that. Please note that I don't want to change, mock, or dismember the system. I merely want to get my friend into the game. The "ebaying of gamestuff" is a dumb excuse, but a valid one at the same time. CCP has item markers for everything in their database so it is not hard for them to track down item sales on ebay (ibiet its a big and arduous job). I Merely want to get my friend (neighbor) into the game. Giving him an incentive (6 months of gameplay for a little cheaper) would both give CCP a new player, and me a extra friend to play with. I'm basically his "sponsor".
Kylania	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:19:00 - [13] Originally by: Suren Segolia Originally by: Kylania Not different, active characters online at the same time. But how about those that have 2 pc's and play our P^2 account on that second pc at the same time? Or did I mis-read your post? Sorry, Suren. Corunna was talking about people that play from work and play from home. My point was even if you play two computers at the same time, they will both be coming from the same location. I can't imagine someone playing from home on one computer while playing from work on another at the same time. :) -- Lil Miner
Kylania	Posted - 2006.03.23 20:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Tennessee Jack So if you create a account, play it for 6 months, then "Give" it to a friend. Thats bad. But if you transfer the Character to their own setup account, thats fine (in which the only difference is the extra cost of starting a new account (which is 5 bucks extra), and the cost of the character transfer (10 dollars?). So according to what you said, transfering accounts is illegal, but transfering the character (which contains all the money, skill, items, etc etc etc) to another account is fine? I have a feeling it's for the same reason that using Real Life Cash to buy ISK ingame is a Bad ThingÖ but buying a Game Time Card from CCP for Real Life Cash to buy ISK ingame is a Good ThingÖ. In one case CCP doesn't make money off the EULA breaking activity, in the second case CCP does make money off the EULA breaking activity. -- Lil Miner
Corunna ElMan	Posted - 2006.03.24 02:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Kylania [My point was even if you play two computers at the same time, they will both be coming from the same location. Not necessarily. Uusually that's the case but it's not absolute and therefore inconclusive. I've got two machines in my house - one connects by broadband cable and the other by dialup. They've got very different IPs. I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I couldn't care less what you think of me - all that matters is this: Can you defend your opinions?
Valium Summer	Posted - 2006.03.24 03:47:00 - [16] Originally by: Corunna ElMan Originally by: Kylania [My point was even if you play two computers at the same time, they will both be coming from the same location. Not necessarily. Uusually that's the case but it's not absolute and therefore inconclusive. I've got two machines in my house - one connects by broadband cable and the other by dialup. They've got very different IPs. Why on earth would you have a dial up in a house that has broadband? Someone buy this boy a router. ARe you paying two separate ISP's for access to the internet?
Corunna ElMan	Posted - 2006.03.24 08:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Valium Summer Why on earth would you have a dial up in a house that has broadband? Because sometimes, the cable goes DOWN! Is it that hard to figure out? I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I couldn't care less what you think of me - all that matters is this: Can you defend your opinions?
Da'Neth	Posted - 2006.03.24 14:07:00 - [18] Originally by: Corunna ElMan Originally by: Kylania [My point was even if you play two computers at the same time, they will both be coming from the same location. Not necessarily. Uusually that's the case but it's not absolute and therefore inconclusive. I've got two machines in my house - one connects by broadband cable and the other by dialup. They've got very different IPs. I also have 2 pc. each with thar own IP as the broadband I have comes with 2 ip's.
Corunna ElMan	Posted - 2006.03.24 16:53:00 - [19] Indeed, static IPs are a possible explanation - particularly when required for some other application or purpose. I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I couldn't care less what you think of me - all that matters is this: Can you defend your opinions?
Athren Soulsteal	Posted - 2006.03.24 22:06:00 - [20] Quote: Not different, active characters online at the same time. HUH? I have a 6 lan game room at my home. I used to have 3 EVE accounts but only reactivated 2. I can be playing from my house while my son is playing from my nephues house (he has a 4 lan gameroom). Or They sometimes play from the school on weekends (optical connect). And I from work. All the accounts are under my name, actually I have a special account setup to pay for all the diffrent game accounts. So if CCP were to check IPs there could easly be two diffrent connects at the same time. As long as they look at the Account name it should not matter. Just pay for your buddies accountand have him pay you back.

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