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Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.17 03:00:00 -
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Ok guys, a member who was recently kicked from my corporation for breaking rules and disobeying direct orders decided to clear the public tower SMA when he left. He stole ships including a vargur and the ones he didn't want to steal he suicided in sleeper sites. Recruit him at your own risk.
P.S. - He also is awful at eve, was in the corp for 2 weeks and managed to lose 2 paladins to sleepers.
If you don't care to just take my word for it, i'll get my hands on screenshots of his wallet history selling the vargur/the fitting, as well as the killmail of the cyclone that he suicided. |
Berasus
Ice station zebra
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Posted - 2014.01.17 03:44:00 -
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Soooo, just out of curiosity, at the point where you decided to tell this person you were kicking them out of of the corp for rule breaking why did he still have access to corp assets? 1st indication anyone should have that they're being kicked from the corp is either a) they've lost all their access to everything valuable or b) they've already been kicked from the corp.
Theres a reason why when some workplaces fire you they have security walk you to your desk/office to pack your crap and then out the building. |
Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.17 03:48:00 -
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Leadership was actually unaware that he had access to valuable assets. The only valuable thing he got was the vargur which was completely my fault. TBH, he left his own tower up worth about 400mil once we take it down. And he had about 800mil in payouts that will now go to buying me a new vargur. All he ended up hurting was himself.
Your point is entirely valid.
Edit: In W-space its tricky to not notify someone as generally its a courtesy to let them remove their assets, if we decided just to pod him out and steal his assets that wouldn't put us in a good light. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.01.17 05:10:00 -
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Sounds like poor leadership lead him to a life of crime, shame on you, you should step down from your position.
Loyd's Loot: Items for sale in Dodixie |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
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3242
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Posted - 2014.01.17 06:14:00 -
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There are at least 2 sides to every accusation we read here.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Praxis Ginimic
Vessels of the Line
Bask of Fail
745
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Posted - 2014.01.17 12:33:00 -
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For future reference, here's an easy guide to booting corpi's in double ewe space:
1. "Hey guy! We're running that hard ass site, hurry out"
2. Bubble up.
3. Place said corpi on the ol' pod express
4. Profit
Please note that 3. has not been redacted as per usual eve-o policy. This is for the sake of your next vargur and normal "counting" procedures shall resume forthwith.
Also, can I join your corp? |
Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.17 12:39:00 -
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I gain solace from the fact that for every troll there is someone who will avoid recruiting this guy now. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:21:00 -
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Zenvati Rxeni wrote:Leadership was actually unaware that he had access to valuable assets. The only valuable thing he got was the vargur which was completely my fault. TBH, he left his own tower up worth about 400mil once we take it down. And he had about 800mil in payouts that will now go to buying me a new vargur. All he ended up hurting was himself.
Your point is entirely valid.
Edit: In W-space its tricky to not notify someone as generally its a courtesy to let them remove their assets, if we decided just to pod him out and steal his assets that wouldn't put us in a good light.
So you tell him he is booted.
He can't be arsed moving his tower.
He doubts you will pay the isk he earned from sites.
He selects a ship worth a bit less than the tower and the isk owed and leaves.
Why even complain at this point? If anything you stole a couple hundred mill from him.
and that is your side of the story! As erotica1 so wisely points out the other side is often markedly different.
here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:53:00 -
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You kept his tower, he kept your ship(s).
The EvE gods are pleased.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:14:00 -
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I was actually going to contract it to him and then I realized that he had stolen ships, if he had not been an idiot he would've gotten his tower and allbof his payouts. He wasn't kicked on bad terms. |
T Rowe Price
T Rowe Price Financial
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:25:00 -
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Zenvati Rxeni wrote:I was actually going to contract it to him and then I realized that he had stolen ships, if he had not been an idiot he would've gotten his tower and allbof his payouts. He wasn't kicked on bad terms.
"He wasn't kicked on bad terms." LOLOLOLOLOL
I'm not sure that you are pointing your finger at the right idiot. Try turning it toward yourself maybe? Yep... Now you are on the right track.
So, the guy lost a Maurader... Big deal. Sounds like you lost more to me. How does one come to be a slayer of sleepers and is worried over the loss of 1 or 2 billion? Are you sure that you know what you're doing in that wormhole? |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:31:00 -
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Zenvati Rxeni wrote:Leadership was actually unaware that he had access to valuable assets. The only valuable thing he got was the vargur which was completely my fault. TBH, he left his own tower up worth about 400mil once we take it down. And he had about 800mil in payouts that will now go to buying me a new vargur. All he ended up hurting was himself.
Your point is entirely valid.
Edit: In W-space its tricky to not notify someone as generally its a courtesy to let them remove their assets, if we decided just to pod him out and steal his assets that wouldn't put us in a good light.
For the first time on a corp theft thread I'm not going to troll the OP!
I'd recommend podding him and then refunding the loss and contracting remaining assets in the future.
New player resources:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information
http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP
http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:12:00 -
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So he lost two paladins but I don't know what I'm doing? Lol, feeble attempt at trying to say something remotely intelligent. I'm not going to bother responding to any more idiotic posts. Hopefully the people that need to read this see it. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:55:00 -
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Zenvati Rxeni wrote:So he lost two paladins but I don't know what I'm doing? Lol, feeble attempt at trying to say something remotely intelligent. I'm not going to bother responding to any more idiotic posts. Hopefully the people that need to read this see it.
Failure of a subordinate is no ones fault but the one who is responsible for managing him. That's you right?
Confirming OP doesn't know what he is doing.
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Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:18:00 -
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Reason he lost paladins --------> not listening to advice and breaking rules ---------> reason he was getting kicked in the first place
He received plenty of training in how to operate against sleepers, and had he bothered to heed warnings and follow corp rules he wouldn'tve died in the first place. |
Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:25:00 -
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So not only do you not take responsibility for your subordinates, you do not have any control over them either?
Definitely don't know what you are doing.
Loyd's Loot: Items for sale in Dodixie |
Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:43:00 -
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You seem to think he's my subordinate... He's was a member just like me. Not sure where your misconception stems from. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
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3246
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Posted - 2014.01.18 17:30:00 -
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After reading so many of these corp theft threads, I have come to the conclusion that we must have teamspeak recordings...
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.18 18:23:00 -
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Wasn't any sort of rage, he only took like 1.2 bil worth, not something you cry about in W-Space. |
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
881
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Posted - 2014.01.18 19:53:00 -
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Zenvati Rxeni wrote:Edit: In W-space its tricky to not notify someone as generally its a courtesy to let them remove their assets, if we decided just to pod him out and steal his assets that wouldn't put us in a good light. No reason you couldn't have locked him out of teh storage array, stuffed all his stuffs into a few giant containers, and locked him out of the hanger, too. Either that, or removed everyone *else's* property from out of reach whilst he was packing up his office and being shown the door.
Yeah, it's a bit of work, but if you're going to be courteous, then go all the way. Or just strip roles, boot him, and loot his goods. I know which route *I'd* go with someone that dim.
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Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.18 22:26:00 -
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It was only my things that were stolen, I'm going to stress again that the monitary loss is not at all an issue, it is the fact that if every time this guy gets an opportunity to steal **** he'll do it. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
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190
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Posted - 2014.01.19 01:30:00 -
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Zenvati Rxeni wrote:It was only my things that were stolen, I'm going to stress again that the monitary loss is not at all an issue, it is the fact that if every time this guy gets an opportunity to steal **** he'll do it.
Well I guess the one corp that actualy does proper background checks thanks you. I'll have to invite him next time I make a corp.
New player resources:
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information
http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP
http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á |
Zenvati Rxeni
Heavenly Kingdom of Great Peace
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Posted - 2014.01.19 01:56:00 -
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His background check was fine barring his employment history, smaller corps like ours tend to overlook things like employment history and focus on the API information and reports from past ceo's. God knows his report from my CEO won't be too nice. |
SkyFlyer
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2014.01.21 16:16:00 -
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I once tried to teach the guy how to PvP, turns out he didn't understand half the terms.....
From the Past i can confirm this guy is terrible and should prolly just stop playing eve, or join BNI...or Eve Uni to learn how to play |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland
Test Alliance Please Ignore
491
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Posted - 2014.01.22 21:04:00 -
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If they were his paladins, who cares if he lost them? His loss.
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