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Slirtdan Uheran
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:08:00 -
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New-ERA BANK
Greetings everyone.
I've thinked about a banking system for a long time. I've figured it out some ways to enable a bank in EVE. There is only ONE problem, there i cannot make anyone of you to trust me, yet, that this is a profitable way to increase your ISK without doing nothing. I belive that there might be a way to get myself credible, and attract investors, first with decent sums of ISK and maybe in future higher sums of ISK.
Q: How do i know that you are not a thief ? A: Sincerly i cannot make you trust me at the begining, the only thing i can give is my word (of a future business man).
Q: From what will you get profit to pay us back, and interest ? A: There are very many ways to increase the ISK you deposit to my bank. I will list only a few now:
- Investing in Outpost's shares. - T1 items/ships production. - T2 components production. - T2 items/ships production.
These are only a few ways that i make official. I have other ways to increase ISK with ISK but i do not expose them.
Q: Which is the interest that your bank is offering for our deposits ? A: There will be a list of deposit packages down in this thread.
Q: When i can withdraw my money from bank ? A: You can withdraw your money&interest anytime, but you need to ask for it with 14 days before. I hope that everyone will understand this, because remember that your money are invested and i need little time to get the money to pay you back.
Q: Which is minimum amount of ISK that can be deposited, and the max amount ? A: The minimum amount of ISK is 10.000.000, and for start the maximum amount of ISK is 200.000.000. I've set a maximum amount of ISK because i do not wish to be unable to pay back your money and interest.
Q: Why don't you have a corp of your own? A: I will make a corp of my own, but at this time i wish to get a start.
Q: Is there a website or forum ? A: There is not such, yet, but will be up.
Depending how things will work interests might rise, maximum amount of ISK that can be deposited will raise.
http://www.eve-files.com/media/0603/banka.JPG
Thank you very much for your attention. I need all your support into this at start. But Eve will have a BANK.
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Constantine Arcanum
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:36:00 -
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/me chuckles
I've seen many scams the past few days, and more frequent too.
I will keep my cash, kthxbye -----------------------------------------------
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:38:00 -
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There have been a lot of attempts like this, some have worked better than others. A good example is the whole ISS scheme thing.
The devs did mention the idea of banks in the las vegas interviews and stuff, and said that the problem is if you do decide to up and run, there are no assets that can be locked down and given out as compensation and stuff. Take a listen, they're well worth it. RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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Now run along and play with your dolls...
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Draeklore
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:47:00 -
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Why would players want to use a bank? Main reasons for banking IRL: safety, loans, and interest.
Its not safe for people to carry or keep a ton of cash around but in game thats not a problem.
The other thing, loans, can be done by each individuals corp. These loans are are interest free as well 
A bank in Eve wouldn't be very successful because the interest given by the bank wouldn't be worth the risk of having your money taken by the player. And like I said earlier the other two purposes of a bank are irrelevant in Eve.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.23 15:49:00 -
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Are my deposits FDIC insured?
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Luigi Thirty
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Posted - 2006.03.23 16:53:00 -
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When he runs off they'll be STFU insured.
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Vanlade
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Posted - 2006.03.23 17:45:00 -
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WTB: STFU Insurance
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.03.23 17:48:00 -
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Isn't my wallet my bank? --------------
I'm just bitter |

Benilopax
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Posted - 2006.03.23 17:54:00 -
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Two Words
BIG BANK
That has been a total failure even BIG were not trusted.
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.23 18:24:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis DeTocqueville on 23/03/2006 18:24:42
Originally by: Nee'kita Frist Isn't my wallet my bank?
Your wallet is akin to stuffing your cash underneath your mattress
What he's proposing is some form of financial institution that invests in outposts/POS's/etc. using your money and gives you 5-7% interest in return.
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.03.23 18:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nee''kita Frist on 23/03/2006 18:32:35 Well if he put as investment rather than banking I would've been interested. Banking in my opinion is just somewhere to keep your money.
I would be interested. What kind of entry level are you thinking?
Ah wait 10mill hmm...
Sounds ok for a trial considering I can make 10 mill in about 2 hours. --------------
I'm just bitter |

DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.03.23 18:39:00 -
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Your wallet in game is your personal bank, no need to give away your isk to keep it safe.
As for investing, buy shares in the well established corps, and get your extra isk working for you that way.
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Slirtdan Uheran
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Posted - 2006.03.23 18:53:00 -
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Many of you can say this is a robbery, that it won't work. I do understand you, and what you say but:
1. Yes is based on an investment plan (with a wide open activity) that needs ISK, and i call it BANK because i give you (sincerly, honestly) no guarantee for your deposited money, only my word. 2. I've set small deposits because i need to gain you on my side. 3. The interests are small because i need further to develop my investment plans, and i do not wish not to be able to give your money and interest. 4. For the one who said that banks are for credits: Yes i will develop soon some kind of crediting system. I have it in my mind but i need to raise my capital first.
Thank you very much for the attention, please post your opinions, posts not take ISK :)
Slirtdan Uheran
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Alexis DeTocqueville
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Posted - 2006.03.23 19:00:00 -
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"You just have to trust me" is a poor vindication. I would rather prefer something better, like maybe the [5] being a guarantor. 
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.03.23 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: DukDodgerz As for investing, buy shares in the well established corps, and get your extra isk working for you that way.
Name a corp I can invest in that gives me a return apart from ISS which is already got a bunch of investors and I doubt I will be able to invest into anyway since the shares disappear so fast. --------------
I'm just bitter |

Klasanov
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Posted - 2006.03.23 21:59:00 -
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oh hell no. All I wrote disappeared becsause I took too long.
Butit was basically that I think this might be a scam, as there is no comprehensive business plan, and inputting the ISK in multiples shouldn't be needed to make calculating the interest easier.
Which it wouldn't be after the first month, a bank means the interest gets compounded.
And what did the devs say about a bank?
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Freya Runestone
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Posted - 2006.03.23 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: Freya Runestone on 23/03/2006 22:50:05 how would you get players to trust you when you can't even do the calculations right? lets take the gold thing, 200m deposit. 6%/month interest. and you claim that makes 72% annual. annual interest is NOT simply 6%x12 it is infact 6%^12 or rather (1.06^12)-1 thich makes 1,0122 which in % is 101,22% (a whole lot higher than 72%)
edit, and how can the date in the bottom of the blue thing say 25.03.2006 when infact today is only the 23.03.2006 sorry, this just smells like a scam. __________________________________ the sig of Freya Runestone decided to take a vacation ... then on the beach it found a little bit of gold - Vanamonde If I may be so bold, it was only mould, Vanamonde - Cortes |

Lacero Callrisian
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Posted - 2006.03.23 23:08:00 -
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Banking with ISK won't work in eve. Ever. Just think about it...
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nee'kita Frist
Originally by: DukDodgerz As for investing, buy shares in the well established corps, and get your extra isk working for you that way.
Name a corp I can invest in that gives me a return apart from ISS which is already got a bunch of investors and I doubt I will be able to invest into anyway since the shares disappear so fast.
look to corps in an aliance in 0.0 space, that has outpost. Seems they would have members willing to sell shares (actualy they do, it is how i bought mine, and get monthly/quarterly dividends).
Shares are an investment for the long haul, not a quick turn over. For quick turn over, claim to be starting a bank and get players to send you isk...
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:22:00 -
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another hole
u say here it`s minimum of 10mil on that jpg it says 5mil
what is it? ________________ I don't DO graphics, here's a sig anyway, wubwoo - Cortes lol thanks :-) |

Rebycman
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Posted - 2006.03.24 00:33:00 -
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Are you from Nigeria?
LOL!! Reminds me of those emails and faxes you see from time to time. My wallet is my bank!!!! There are much safer ways to invest your iskies folks.... |

Kldraina
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Posted - 2006.03.24 01:07:00 -
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I actually have a bank that I'm running. I use it to raise capital for my trade buisness. The main reason I'm successful, is because all the investors have been people in my Corp who don't have their own ways to invest the money they have (and who trust me, since having them walk out on us would kinda suck).
Yeah, I don't actually expect anyone who doesn't know me to want to open an account (and good traders can probably make more than the 5% a week I pay out), but I thought I'd mention it.
Slirtdan: If you are serious, you might want to first try to get people you already know to invest before looking elsewhere.
PS, I hope that when contracts come out, banking becomes more feasable with some form of enforcable banking contracts. |

Gaius Falco
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Posted - 2006.03.24 03:42:00 -
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The fastest way to double your money? Fold it over and put it back in your pocket.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<*>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"We have enough youth. How about a Fountain of Smart?" |

Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.03.24 07:16:00 -
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Yes, I remember this kind of business 
I "invested" 1.5bil .. Perhaps I will soon get it back 
Unnerf Amarr! Proud member of Black Omega Security |

Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.03.24 11:33:00 -
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Edited by: Nee''kita Frist on 24/03/2006 11:34:27
Originally by: Kuolematon I "invested" 1.5bil .. Perhaps I will soon get it back 
Thats just dumb only invest in what you know you can get back very easily. Then it won't sting as much.
And duk your post is the least helpful post ever.
"look to corps with outposts in 0.0"
Gee I only know of ISS that actively sells shares for a return... --------------
I'm just bitter |

Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.24 13:16:00 -
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DERE EAVE PILOTS
I AM REV.UMBUNGO FITZGERALD, AN AMMAR NOBEL FORCED TO FLEE FROM MY LANDS BECAUASES OF THE RELIGIOIGIS PERSECUSHUN I RECEVED. THEIR IS FIFTY BILLION (50,000,000,000) ISK CURRENTLY RESTING IN MY CORP HANGER IN TASH MURKON.
ALL I AM NEEDED TO GIVE TO GET IS BEACK IS THE DOCKING FEE WHICH HAES BEEN SET TO THREE MILLIOION (3,000,000) ISK DUE TO AN ADMININSTERARTIVE ERROR.
I WOULD BE PREPARED TO SEND YUO THE SUM OF TEN (10) BILLION (000,000,000) ISK FOR HEALPING ME TO RETRIEVE MY BIRTHRIGHT. I AME AN HOMEST MAN PLEASE HELP ME TO MAKE YOU VERY RICH FOR HELPING ME TO HELP YOU.
KIND THANKS
REV.UMBUNGO FITZGERALD
no skills, just luck.
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Nee'kita Frist
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Posted - 2006.03.24 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Usul Faust DERE EAVE PILOTS
I AM REV.UMBUNGO FITZGERALD, AN AMMAR NOBEL FORCED TO FLEE FROM MY LANDS BECAUASES OF THE RELIGIOIGIS PERSECUSHUN I RECEVED. THEIR IS FIFTY BILLION (50,000,000,000) ISK CURRENTLY RESTING IN MY CORP HANGER IN TASH MURKON.
ALL I AM NEEDED TO GIVE TO GET IS BEACK IS THE DOCKING FEE WHICH HAES BEEN SET TO THREE MILLIOION (3,000,000) ISK DUE TO AN ADMININSTERARTIVE ERROR.
I WOULD BE PREPARED TO SEND YUO THE SUM OF TEN (10) BILLION (000,000,000) ISK FOR HEALPING ME TO RETRIEVE MY BIRTHRIGHT. I AME AN HOMEST MAN PLEASE HELP ME TO MAKE YOU VERY RICH FOR HELPING ME TO HELP YOU.
KIND THANKS
REV.UMBUNGO FITZGERALD
I think...
WTF? --------------
I'm just bitter |

Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.03.24 14:49:00 -
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IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO HELP ME GET MY ISK BACK,. I WILL BE HAPPY TO SEND YOU 10 BILLION ISK. PLEASE SIR MY SIXTEEN CHILDREN AHVE TO USE T1 DUAL LIGT PULSE LASERS. YOUR HEALP WOOLD BE MUCH APPRECEIATED WILL YOU HELP THEM?
no skills, just luck.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2006.03.24 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nee'kita Frist
Originally by: Usul Faust DERE EAVE PILOTS
I AM REV.UMBUNGO FITZGERALD, AN AMMAR NOBEL FORCED TO FLEE FROM MY LANDS BECAUASES OF THE RELIGIOIGIS PERSECUSHUN I RECEVED. THEIR IS FIFTY BILLION (50,000,000,000) ISK CURRENTLY RESTING IN MY CORP HANGER IN TASH MURKON.
ALL I AM NEEDED TO GIVE TO GET IS BEACK IS THE DOCKING FEE WHICH HAES BEEN SET TO THREE MILLIOION (3,000,000) ISK DUE TO AN ADMININSTERARTIVE ERROR.
I WOULD BE PREPARED TO SEND YUO THE SUM OF TEN (10) BILLION (000,000,000) ISK FOR HEALPING ME TO RETRIEVE MY BIRTHRIGHT. I AME AN HOMEST MAN PLEASE HELP ME TO MAKE YOU VERY RICH FOR HELPING ME TO HELP YOU.
KIND THANKS
REV.UMBUNGO FITZGERALD
I think...
WTF?
old scam  ________________ I don't DO graphics, here's a sig anyway, wubwoo - Cortes lol thanks :-) |
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