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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.03.24 16:40:00 -
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I was on my way to agoze to stockpile small arms for *coughs* peacefull purpouses of course. My Dominix approached a CAS station and all of a sudden a bright light flashed from the systems sun. I was knocked out instantly. My crew of the P.R.S. Peacekeeper removed me from my pod and tried to revive me. I was out for 3 hours and in that time I had a most disturbing vision. It was a vision of things to come.
I was walking around a station on Intaki and huddles of homeless Intakis, Mannars and Minmitars where holding rifles as mothers clutched infants in dirty rags not fit for a dog.
Large jolts and sounds of war from outside the station raddles the populace of this station. I could tell there where ships outside pounding away at the stations defenses. Of whome that enemy was I couldnt tell.
I walked down a causeway and encountered a small room. Inside it was a Caldari Navy officer and several Intaki males in unknown military uniforms. Accompanied by them was Mordus Officers, and a lone Intaki Space police Colonel.
I further glanced the surroundings of the area and noticed a Gallentean in a federal navy uniform. I beleive by his stripes he was a Admiral. He and the others where reviewing a large table. A table with a map of most of the Systems in Eve. strewn accross it was holographic projections of ships, of Minmitar and Gallentean as well as Caldari ships.
What surprised me most is that they where all under the same banner.
Then the map began to flash red and ships of unfamiliar design showed up on the war map.
I continued to walk the corridors of this station that does not resemble the stations of Intaki I am familiar with. I noticed a little girl of Mannar lineage and saw large scars on her face. These scars werent like that of a knife or pulse rifle. They where that of disease. I looked behind her and saw thousands of people strewn about in scrap metal shacks and cardboard shelters with the same ailment.
I awoke with a feeling of dread. I suppose it was a crazy dream. I share this with you to get it off my mind. It haunts me day and day end. I don't know why. I suppose anyone can have a vivid nightmare of decrepid people by the thousands begging for mercy.
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Shemar
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Posted - 2006.03.24 16:53:00 -
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It could be just a dream of course, but what if it isn't? Should I be glad that despite our differences we were capable of working together against a common threat, or horrified that such a threat might exist?
And the absense of the Amarr raises more questions. Were they the threat we were all facing, or in their pride, they refused to unite with the rest and were the first to fall?
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Areah Mar'khet
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Posted - 2006.03.24 17:32:00 -
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I hope that this isn't really a vision of things to come. The Caldari are not the type to betray and we all know they've been aiding the Amarr. If the Amarr were to engage in biogenic warfare, though, suck as with this disease you say you saw, I could see that happening. I hope it isn't a vision of things to come... but stranger things have happened.
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.03.24 17:49:00 -
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These scars I saw where most odd. They seemed to be in symetrical patterns unlike that of average diseases that produce skin ailments. The people effected where coughing up blood and banging there heads against the walls.
The war dosn't phase me. Humanity will always be at war with something. Either eachother or something else. It was this disease.
They where going mad and scratching there skin to the point where theyd pull skin off there arms and legs to releive it from torment. Little children rocking back and forth talking to themselves hitting there heads against steel walls, and ceramite floors.
More importantly I wonder if it was just a dream. My people beleive dreams are ways for the universe to tell you something. If this was not a literal interpretation of something what the hell was it. I know the dream was induced by something, of that I don't know.
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Vendrin
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Posted - 2006.03.24 22:11:00 -
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A disturbing dream, but that is all it is.
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Sieesa
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Posted - 2006.03.24 22:43:00 -
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Induced by drugs no doubt....you said yourself that it was induced by "something" <smiles to herself> Don't discount absence of the Amarr here, it's supposed to be god that sends visions....revelations and such....maybe god was showing you the "manifest destiny" of the True Amarr?
Maybe the disease you spoke of was no disease at all, but rather a form of stigmata...in retribution against those who refuse him? Yes, I like that idea....
I won't call you mad...yet. But, I suggest you look into a good re-hab facility....I hear that the federation has many....
Sieesa Morgan.
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.03.24 23:11:00 -
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I have not now, nor have I ever taken any form of narcotics, boosters or anything that induces hallucinations. As I suspect it to be nothing more than an oddly vivid dream, I shared it here to ease my mind of it.
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.03.24 23:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jon Engel on 24/03/2006 23:53:16
I will describe more of these men I saw.
The Caldari Naval officer had a shaved head with battle scars on his face. These scars appeared to be that of shrapnel. Perhaps he served in the Army or Marines before he was in the Navy. The Intaki in military garb wore dark brown uniforms with an odd symbol on there right arms. It was that of a scimitar blade. In the background of that blade was a red dot surrounded by blue and below that patch was Stripes indicating rank such as that of Gallente officers in the Navy and mobile infantry.
The Gallentean had long unkept hair tied in the back and looked as if he hasn't shaved in weeks. He was dirty and smelled of sweat and body odor.
They viewed the war map with a sign of frustration and annoyance at this unknown enemy.
The Station (from the inside)looked like a standard civilian/corporate station retrofitted for warfare. Soldiers of various races and Nationalities who looked underfed and tired marched about.
The area where the diseased people where, looked more like a quarantine area. Armed guards kept them in and kept others out. They wore masks with breathing filters. I assume it could be a disease, who knows.
The agoze system is where I had this dream. A solar flare or some such seems to have coincided with me being knocked out.
What would be interesting to know is why would the Amarr focus an invasion of Intaki? Or rather what of the mysterious uniforms? Or why would an Intaki Space Police and Mordus legion officer be involved in a war with the Amarr.
The map showed Gallente Megathrons and Capital ships. Caldari Ravens and Scorpions. Tempests, Typhoons, and countless smaller ships.
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Sieesa
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Posted - 2006.03.25 03:35:00 -
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Perhapse the other Empires had already been subjugated, and we were merely using them as an ablative buffer....before we brought our might to bear...<smiles at the thought> Of course until you have more information it is rather pointless to speculate....I doubt that I will lose any sleep over this....and I highly doubt anyone else in the EMpire will either.
Sieesa Morgan.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.03.25 05:08:00 -
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faulty clone to be sure Sieesa
I keep finding Jon's dead bodies floating in Sydicate, and no I haven't been the cause, I like Placid Reborn for some reason...
anyway must be his newest clone has a flaw, what are we nearing a dozen now Jon? you know a copy of a copy is always more muddled every step it takes 
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Daryl Xero
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:41:00 -
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Apocalyptic scenarios, visions and prophecies have always fascinated me. But with the above commentary on this scenario I can't help but be reminded of this quote:
"It happened that a fire broke out backstage in a theater. The clown came out to inform the public. They thought it was just a jest and applauded. He repeated his warning, they shouted even louder. So I think the world will come to an end amid general applause from all the wits, who believe that it is a joke."
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Sieesa
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Posted - 2006.03.25 06:48:00 -
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 Originally by: Daryl Xero
Apocalyptic scenarios, visions and prophecies have always fascinated me. But with the above commentary on this scenario I can't help but be reminded of this quote:
"It happened that a fire broke out backstage in a theater. The clown came out to inform the public. They thought it was just a jest and applauded. He repeated his warning, they shouted even louder. So I think the world will come to an end amid general applause from all the wits, who believe that it is a joke."
Perhapse so....but either way, at least we'll die laughing!
Sieesa morgan.
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Jon Engel
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Posted - 2006.03.25 15:50:00 -
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Of what reason would a vivid dream automatically be the result of drugs or clone malfunction? Also the absence of the Amarr could mean they have already lost the war as well to an unknown threat. The ships on the map werent Amarrian, or anything similar to the Golden fleet. They appeared on the map as large spheres, with smaller looking ships I didn,t get a close look at.
The Scimitar blade is a well known ceremonial blade of Intaki. Priests and shamens use it for decorative purpouses. I suppose a Cult or corporation of emense power is formed from followers of an ancient Intaki Faith.
As ive said before Dreams are either visions of interpretations of the universe trying to tell you something.
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Aran Cole
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Posted - 2006.03.25 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel
Of what reason would a vivid dream automatically be the result of drugs or clone malfunction? Also the absence of the Amarr could mean they have already lost the war as well to an unknown threat. The ships on the map werent Amarrian, or anything similar to the Golden fleet. They appeared on the map as large spheres, with smaller looking ships I didn,t get a close look at.
The Scimitar blade is a well known ceremonial blade of Intaki. Priests and shamens use it for decorative purpouses. I suppose a Cult or corporation of emense power is formed from followers of an ancient Intaki Faith.
As ive said before Dreams are either visions of interpretations of the universe trying to tell you something.
Alternate option: Dreams are the results of the last meal you ate before bed which didn't exactly sit well with your stomach.
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Denis Jacquard
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Posted - 2006.03.25 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: Denis Jacquard on 25/03/2006 19:23:53
You haven't been using the Prophecy of Macaper as bedtime reading, have you? Macaper's sixth prophecy reads:
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what was many now becomes one when one becomes four
Intaki, Gallente, Caldari and Minmatar working together would certainly be many becoming one. Would it be the Amarr that became four though?
Of course, most of the time dreams are just that... dreams. Nothing more.
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Natascha Flenk
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Posted - 2006.03.25 19:38:00 -
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They're just dreams, you airhead. Last night I dreamt that I was sat down to dinner with a giant bug. He just kept talking about how excited he was to be going home to meet his estranged family, how he was separated at birth and all this nonsense. Does it mean that some day I'll be eating dinner with a giant bug? No, every night I have dinner with twenty eight homeless bums for company. Not exactly bugs.
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Sun Jingwei
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Posted - 2006.03.26 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sun Jingwei on 26/03/2006 05:44:34
Its interesting how easily people want to dismiss a "dream."
Dreams come from many things, but we don't just dream things for no reason. Never. There is always some reason why you had that dream, whether it be your subconcious, or some other, external actor.
My mentor taught me many of the older ways of our Vherokior heritage.
I find it amusing that in this society of profit and progress, how we seem to forget how much we have lost in the process. Even the Amarr, in all their cloistered smugness, have fallen one too many times to hubris and the lure of capital.
In any case... Engel, do not discount the vision you have had. It seems that you are remembering more and more, this is good. This may not be the last, tell us more insights you can offer.
Even if its simply a fantastical, vivid dream, it has seriously implications regardless. This situation is possible. Drug and vaccine shortages are becoming more and more common in the Republic. Inconsequential events to all but the pharmacist, right?
Little things tend to add up to big things.
Many voices. Many people. Many tribes. Many minds.
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Raajib Malhatak
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Posted - 2006.03.26 05:54:00 -
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Shortages of Vaccine.....
Possible
What if we had all the vaccines and medical facilitys we needed and yet there was no cure or way of treating this disease?
The fact that the Amarr werent there could mean many things indeed.
The Amarr fell to this enemy. The Amarr are the enemy. Or the Amarr stayed out of this conflict.
The fact that you saw megathrons and Typhoons indicates it wasn't so far into the future.
I beleive your sub-conscious is trying to tell you something Mr. Engel. Perhaps it is this path for Soverignty and seccesion from the Federation for the Intaki that is behind this. Or perhaps the strange light knocked you out due to an unknown medical condition and you add an odd dream.
If you are indeed telling us the truth about the goings on in Agoze. I beleive something or someone tried to tell you of a possible future for your people. I have methods of inducing dreams for subjects haunted by nightmares and vivid dreams. Perhaps you should travel to Duripant and look me up and id be happy to help you find the answers you seek.
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Bigben
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Posted - 2006.03.26 11:54:00 -
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---Bigbens dream---
Bigben awoke to the awkward sound of his hostile detection system, giving off a very fast high pitched beep. '' damm those caldari computer engineers, so much for fixing the problem'' He thought as he trudged over to the mechanism next to have navigation control system. He was desperate for sleep, very desperate.. His eyelids becoming heavyier as he disengaged the beeping and now was trying to turn the system off. his blinks became longer.. his breathing became slower, he yearned for that precious soft sleep which wasnt far off. His head began to tilt, he closed his eyes again trying to re open them, but he couldnt. There was a loud thud as bigbens head rocketed right and lay on the navigation control system. He then felt the new propulsion of the ship gently rock him to sleep.
(About 10,000km away, a small group of serpentis pilots sat back and heartily laughed and joked to each other down the intercom as their plan had perfectly followed through.)
I then awoke, after realising that there was no way i could see the serpentis pilots laughing and joking to eacj other, i knew it was a dream, i am just glad that my autpilot system kicked in as i was trying to fix the hostile detection computer last night. i looked into the inter-map and i was releived to see myself in rens.
I then remembered that i was there yesterday when i was picking up some small arms and electronic systems for a freind.
Bigben then rebooted the inter-map system and gazed into the screen in horror.
it showed on the screen that he was a long long way from rens.
Intermap readings:
Name: bigben
Ship type : cyclone
location : serpentis prime
Bigbens hostile detection system then nearly exploded with all the new infomation it received
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Balor Delacroix
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Posted - 2006.03.28 03:55:00 -
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How far away from the sun were you? If your vessel was close to the corona of the star radiation in the Velca spectrum may have penetrated the command chamber of your ship. And your dreams, naturaly may have been a fevered halucination. I used to have similar problems during the sense deprevation trials when I originaly tried to get my pilots liscence.
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.03.28 05:17:00 -
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I think it is a dream, only a dream for the political situation between the Empires seems far too abstract.
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Lord Elric
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Posted - 2006.03.28 09:35:00 -
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I have meditated on your vision Jon and it has disturbed me.
We know that some form of bio-genetic plague is affecting the Jove could it be that what you saw was that some mutant strain of this virus will infect our galaxy.
And the combined military you saw the remnants of humanity trying to create quarantine zone.
"Requested items: One Mark V ECM unit, 1000 km of fullerene cable, one low yield nuclear warhead. Stated purpose: birthday party for Amarian dignitary."
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Unuthiel
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:51:00 -
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We know that some form of bio-genetic plague is affecting the Jove could it be that what you saw was that some mutant strain of this virus will infect our galaxy.
Er, no. The Jove "plague" is a flaw in their genetic code, it's not a virus, and it's not contagious.
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Lord Elric
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Unuthiel
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We know that some form of bio-genetic plague is affecting the Jove could it be that what you saw was that some mutant strain of this virus will infect our galaxy.
Er, no. The Jove "plague" is a flaw in their genetic code, it's not a virus, and it's not contagious.
Virus may have been the wrong word to use the "genetic flaw" as you put it could be linked to the immune system, and I used the word " mutate" maybe this is why there is no mention of the the Amarr in Jons dream they all thought like you and died
"Requested items: One Mark V ECM unit, 1000 km of fullerene cable, one low yield nuclear warhead. Stated purpose: birthday party for Amarian dignitary."
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Unuthiel
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:51:00 -
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Virus may have been the wrong word to use the "genetic flaw" as you put it could be linked to the immune system, and I used the word " mutate" maybe this is why there is no mention of the the Amarr in Jons dream they all thought like you and died
Um, it's a flaw in their DNA, introduced during a period of mental attribute experimentation. Related to their psychological state, for all that matters, though even were it related to their immune systems, an inborn error in someone else's DNA is *not* contagious.
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Lord Elric
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Unuthiel
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Virus may have been the wrong word to use the "genetic flaw" as you put it could be linked to the immune system, and I used the word " mutate" maybe this is why there is no mention of the the Amarr in Jons dream they all thought like you and died
Um, it's a flaw in their DNA, introduced during a period of mental attribute experimentation. Related to their psychological state, for all that matters, though even were it related to their immune systems, an inborn error in someone else's DNA is *not* contagious.
So the jove let you know the exact nature of the problem ? sorry if i'm more sceptical than you
"Requested items: One Mark V ECM unit, 1000 km of fullerene cable, one low yield nuclear warhead. Stated purpose: birthday party for Amarian dignitary."
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Halunoto Vankaalen
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Posted - 2006.03.29 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Elric
So the jove let you know the exact nature of the problem ? sorry if i'm more sceptical than you
It's a genetic disease, that effects them in a mental capacity similar to depression. That much is fairly common knowledge.
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