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Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
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Posted - 2014.01.20 08:06:00 -
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Every other thread about it in the past few days has just been an incoherent whine thread about how them and their 20 friends are quiting. Anyone mind explaining what this is all about?
"CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
171
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Posted - 2014.01.20 08:07:00 -
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Here's a start:
http://themittani.com/news/battle-hed-gp-live-coverage |
Fr3akwave
Space Road Truckers.
19
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Posted - 2014.01.20 08:10:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Every other thread about it in the past few days has just been an incoherent whine thread about how them and their 20 friends are quiting. Anyone mind explaining what this is all about?
Read this: ARticle on EN24
May also want to check the other articles on EN24, they have pretty concise writeups of the battle. Might also check themittani.com for a little bias towards the other side. |
hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate
Caldari State
148
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Posted - 2014.01.20 08:33:00 -
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Basically CFC & co gathered a massive derping fleet to turn PL into a smudge.
But due to the fact it took so long to stage all the botters and RMT'ers started moaning that they go and male free afk isk.
So the Fc jumped everything onto of PL thinking it would be fine and would never cause a server issue. The result was a a proper cluster **** and now we have many many posts from CFC crying about eve is broken
Pog mo thoin |
WarFireV
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Legion
288
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Posted - 2014.01.20 08:45:00 -
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http://kotaku.com/eve-onlines-two-biggest-factions-had-an-enormous-battl-1504584086
**** went down, CFC frowned, RUSRUS got shot down. |
Tebizla
18
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Posted - 2014.01.20 09:47:00 -
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CFC threw RUSRUS under the bus and N3/PL ate them like sweet candy ...
That's what happened.
Obviously not a forum / spy / market alt ... |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
605
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Posted - 2014.01.20 13:00:00 -
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Pl/N3 sent a 500 archon, 70 titan, 200 ish supercarrier fleet (numbers might be off but in that ballpark) about 900 people total. and went to a timer 4 hours before it was due to start so that they would have loaded grid giving them an advantage if too many people showwed up to stop them.
Russians and CFC gathered together 700 dreads plus countless supers/titan so finally kill the PL/N3 super fleet.
knowing that the system would be strained by so many people they decided to send in 1000 Domi's and to have them oaunch sentries BEFORE cynoing in the cap fleet onto the same grid as the PL/N3 lot.
The additiion of 1000 domis and there 5000 sentries meant that the dreads cynoing in took hours if they arrived at all and many were killed beofre they loaded grid and with no modules active.
Hundreds died.
the domis did nothing but make the problem worse and also die.
If they had just been happy with a 2:1 advantage in a cap fight then it could well have been the greatest fight in eve history.
instead the extra 1000 superfluous pilots tipped the servers over the edge and so CFC want to blame CCP for the stupidity of trying to force so many drone boats into 1 place.
here is a list of all the fiat currencies that didn't end up at zero value.....and here is a list of the places where a currency pegged to a real commodity has successfully co-existed with compound interest....-á Here is a physics professor explaining why sustainable growth isn't a thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-QA2rkpBSY |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1590
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Posted - 2014.01.20 13:17:00 -
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Tl:DR
Big fight.
CFC/RUS apparently tried the standard "Crash node, mop up people logging in, claim victory. Then ***** about broken mechanics."
James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not our fault the tactic that works also happens to crash the node.
Kudos to CCP for foiling this and keeping the Node up for the fight and delivering these delicious delicious tears!
Stargates aren't located within POS shields. Players have to fly to them outside any shield. The stargate itself and everyone around it is vulnerable to attack. So why is a "Portable Stargate" (Titan) located within a POS shield when a Jump Portal is activated?
The Titans should not be allowed complete safety! |
Hell Ball
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.20 14:07:00 -
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Silvetica Dian wrote:Pl/N3 sent a 500 archon, 70 titan, 200 ish supercarrier fleet (numbers might be off but in that ballpark) about 900 people total. and went to a timer 4 hours before it was due to start so that they would have loaded grid giving them an advantage if too many people showwed up to stop them.
Russians and CFC gathered together 700 dreads plus countless supers/titan so finally kill the PL/N3 super fleet.
knowing that the system would be strained by so many people they decided to send in 1000 Domi's and to have them oaunch sentries BEFORE cynoing in the cap fleet onto the same grid as the PL/N3 lot.
The additiion of 1000 domis and there 5000 sentries meant that the dreads cynoing in took hours if they arrived at all and many were killed beofre they loaded grid and with no modules active.
Hundreds died.
the domis did nothing but make the problem worse and also die.
If they had just been happy with a 2:1 advantage in a cap fight then it could well have been the greatest fight in eve history.
instead the extra 1000 superfluous pilots tipped the servers over the edge and so CFC want to blame CCP for the stupidity of trying to force so many drone boats into 1 place.
and solar wants to quit eve now |
Signal11th
Amarr Empire
1250
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Posted - 2014.01.20 14:16:00 -
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With the current state of CCP creaking kit, pick a side, jump into system (if you can) and toss a coin who will be the victor..
Personally I can't blame anyone for wanting to quit after suffering fights like this. I did one for 8 hours a couple of months ago and since then decided never to do it again ...ever..
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God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
4976
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Posted - 2014.01.20 14:41:00 -
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as an outsider observer who enjoys reading the forums about all I've been able to ascertain thus far is summed up basically as:
"i'm sad about stuff."
if there is some greater implication behind it all, well, i'm sure it will come to light in due time. |
Cloaky McWarpStab
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.01.20 15:43:00 -
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RUS/CFC thought the servers were from the future. They aren't. Despite this they tried jumping in.
Unsurprisingly it went bad for them. |
Cloaky McWarpStab
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.01.20 15:46:00 -
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Seriously though changing Sov so it isn't everyone pilling into one system at once would be nice.
Like an ESS but the polar opposite. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2014.01.20 16:45:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Tl:DR Big fight. CFC/RUS apparently tried the standard "Crash node, mop up people logging in, claim victory. Then ***** about broken mechanics." James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not our fault the tactic that works also happens to crash the node. Kudos to CCP for foiling this and keeping the Node up for the fight and delivering these delicious delicious tears!
This is the true story.
CFC dumped 2800 ships on the same grid as N3/PL and cry when their server crash tactic didn't work.
If CFC and pets can't play with the big boys they need to go do faction warfare. Then I can kill them all. |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
64
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Posted - 2014.01.20 16:47:00 -
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Oh, wait. I forgot.
Goon tears, best tears. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2611
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Posted - 2014.01.20 16:55:00 -
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There is always something like my old influence sov system.
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/some-ideas-on-eve/an-influence-sovereignty-system/
http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
65
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:02:00 -
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Yea, something like this would be more interesting than the garbage that is in place. |
Doc Severide
State War Academy
Caldari State
21
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:26:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Every other thread about it in the past few days has just been an incoherent whine thread about how them and their 20 friends are quiting. Anyone mind explaining what this is all about?
Simple.
The EVE Servers cannot handle big battles. What else is there to say really?
Well except mostly every one knows this but shows up anyway. Lagged out, hung up, expensive ship lost.
The End... |
Leigh Akiga
My Highsec Backbone
501
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:30:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Every other thread about it in the past few days has just been an incoherent whine thread about how them and their 20 friends are quiting. Anyone mind explaining what this is all about?
Some guys attacked a system and theres some things you have to do but it all comes down to one final timer. So they loaded all their stuff into the system right after downtime and sat there for hours saying "come at us bro."
Then the defenders formed up all their stuff- CCP was live monitoring the event and even hotswapped a node to help alleviate stress in the formup system- then they jumped in.....
......
Thats what happened- all the defenders capitals got stuck in jump tunnels for hours even though they appeared on grid and were targetable. Pretty much the only thing that was working was titan doomsdays.
It was a turkeyshoot and the defenders lost over 300 dreadnoughts without being able to fight back. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
475
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:32:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Lugia3 wrote:Every other thread about it in the past few days has just been an incoherent whine thread about how them and their 20 friends are quiting. Anyone mind explaining what this is all about? Simple. The EVE Servers cannot handle big battles. What else is there to say really? Well except mostly every one knows this but shows up anyway. Lagged out, hung up, expensive ship lost. The End...
Funny then that the 1000+ pilots slugging it out in Hysera at the same time HED was going down didnt have any issues beyond some heavy tidi, and we got more kills to boot.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
68
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:39:00 -
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Leigh Akiga wrote:
Thats what happened- all the defenders capitals got stuck in jump tunnels for hours even though they appeared on grid and were targetable. Pretty much the only thing that was working was titan doomsdays.
It was a turkeyshoot and the defenders lost over 300 dreadnoughts without being able to fight back.
And we all know that's what happens when you drop 1000 ships onto the 2700 already in system.
That is 900 N3/PL ships, cause they left plenty of room on the node for CFC to come in.
2800 CFC and pet ships.
Their intention was to crash the node, but seems they got what they were trying to dish out.
Now we get all the nummy Goon Tears to feed on. |
Leigh Akiga
My Highsec Backbone
501
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:41:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:Leigh Akiga wrote:
Thats what happened- all the defenders capitals got stuck in jump tunnels for hours even though they appeared on grid and were targetable. Pretty much the only thing that was working was titan doomsdays.
It was a turkeyshoot and the defenders lost over 300 dreadnoughts without being able to fight back.
And we all know that's what happens when you drop 1000 ships onto the 2700 already in system
There was 4000 in 6VDT and they dropped 150 dreads just fine. Also CCP patched and fixed the things that were causing node crashes, we all knew this.
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Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
547
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:42:00 -
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I kind-of like this, but you need another layer above Alliance to make it work. A Sovereignty Block or something like that, with a designated holder, but for whom any affiliated players, alliances or corporations could contribute to the holding of said sovereignty. There are areas in Eve where you are free to operate without being a member of the sov holding alliance you see. You don't want to wake up one morning to discover you'd taken sov from the holder in a particular system just because your toons spend all of their time there and the holder doesn't, especially if there are costs involved.
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
432
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:46:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Every other thread about it in the past few days has just been an incoherent whine thread about how them and their 20 friends are quiting. Anyone mind explaining what this is all about?
Basically every now and then a massive fleet fight happens in EvE online and contrary to fanbois and marketing hype these fights suck and are unplayable due to crushing lag. Essentially the large fleet fight of EvE online is a lie.
In response to these crushing lag fests you will hear things from CCP such as gregorian chants of 'TiDi', whispers of 'brains in a box' or perhaps 'server remaps'...but ultimately you join a large nullsec alliance and take part in such fights at direct peril to your bladder and colon, as you await 8 hours realtime for your modules to activate in these masochism fests, reminiscent of being repeatedly d1ck punched by a midget...
I have often asked for CCP to add a 'poop bucket required at desk for large fleet engagements' clause to the EULA, but such calls have always gone unanswered.
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Would you like to know more? |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2432
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:46:00 -
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hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:So the Fc jumped everything onto of PL thinking it would be fine and would never cause a server issue. The result was a a proper cluster **** and now we have many many posts from CFC crying about eve is broken So you are saying it's not broken? A hard limit on the number of active pilots in a system is a good gameplay mechanic?
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Meyr
SiN Corp
Black Core Alliance
274
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Posted - 2014.01.20 17:56:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:So the Fc jumped everything onto of PL thinking it would be fine and would never cause a server issue. The result was a a proper cluster **** and now we have many many posts from CFC crying about eve is broken So you are saying it's not broken? A hard limit on the number of active pilots in a system is a good gameplay mechanic?
No, but asininely ordering your forces to jump into a system and ONTO THE SAME GRID as they did is what directly led to the harvest of tears we're currently seeing.
Hey - you tried to bring overwhelming firepower directly into the fight, instead of jumping into the system, and THEN warping to the battle.
And ALMOST got what you wanted. Except that the server refused to crash.
Next time, I'm betting, we'll see you bring even greater numbers, but with less expensive ships. I'm predicting an incredibly massive CFC Drone Fleet(tm) will crash the server when the battle terrain doesn't favor you.
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