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Lugia3
Triangular Initiative
STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2011.11.08 21:30:00 -
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Well, we are only a few years away from developing AI's based on synthetic platforms. When they are released what do you guys think about them playing games like EVE?
Would they be allowed? Or would it be considered "boting" An AI would have a massive advantage over a human while playing a game. Because they would be based in computers, they can make mathmatical and immoral calculations nearly a million times faster than people. They could fly a whole fleet at once in perfect unison, easily crushing any human fleet.
What do you guys think about this? Personaly, I think they should be allowed, to an extent. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
718
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Posted - 2011.11.08 21:31:00 -
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The future is here today. Goons have an advanced A.I. that we have named DBRB and we use it to lead all of our fleets to victory.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2011.11.08 21:46:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:Well, we are only a few years away from developing AI's based on synthetic platforms. When they are released what do you guys think about them playing games like EVE?
Would they be allowed? Or would it be considered "boting" An AI would have a massive advantage over a human while playing a game. Because they would be based in computers, they can make mathmatical and immoral calculations nearly a million times faster than people. They could fly a whole fleet at once in perfect unison, easily crushing any human fleet.
What do you guys think about this? Personaly, I think they should be allowed, to an extent.
Sorry, but we are still decades away from creating a reliable form of AI. In truth software development has changed little over the last 30 years, in some ways we have gone backwards in terms of efficiency. I don't believe make any significant progress until high quality and cheap superconductors are manufactured. |
Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
52
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Posted - 2011.11.08 21:49:00 -
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When we eventually have an AI that powerful, it'll be used to 'enhance' our lives in ways we can't guess at yet!
I wonder what it will be like at art - maybe it could touch up all these sky boxes so we can have one per system  |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
266
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:06:00 -
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cute as big blue and watson are, there is no need to worry about actual AI anytime soon
its all parlor tricks still
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Shivus Tao
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
23
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:09:00 -
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Silicon just doesn't have the capacity for true AI. Once we cross over into biological computing then we're talking. |
Nautsyn Thome
Shark Investments
Shark-Investments
3
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:14:00 -
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Unless we are unable to write code which can learn by itself, and write new code to enhance itself, i dont think it is a hardware problem at all. |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:23:00 -
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Nautsyn Thome wrote:Unless we are unable to write code which can learn by itself, and write new code to enhance itself, i dont think it is a hardware problem at all.
We do not fully understand how humans learn, never mind programming a computer to learn. Take language for example, although there are various competing theories on how we learn to communicate with each other on the whole it is still mystery to us. I think you overestimate the current extent of human knowledge. |
Nautsyn Thome
Shark Investments
Shark-Investments
3
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:25:00 -
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Ann133566 wrote:Nautsyn Thome wrote:Unless we are unable to write code which can learn by itself, and write new code to enhance itself, i dont think it is a hardware problem at all. We do not fully understand how humans learn, never mind programming a computer to learn. Take language for example, although there are various competing theories on how we learn to communicate with each other on the whole it is still mystery to us. I think you overestimate the current extent of human knowledge.
Wasnt that what i said? Sorry perhaps my english is too bad.
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Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:32:00 -
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Nautsyn Thome wrote:Ann133566 wrote:Nautsyn Thome wrote:Unless we are unable to write code which can learn by itself, and write new code to enhance itself, i dont think it is a hardware problem at all. We do not fully understand how humans learn, never mind programming a computer to learn. Take language for example, although there are various competing theories on how we learn to communicate with each other on the whole it is still mystery to us. I think you overestimate the current extent of human knowledge. Wasnt that what i said? Sorry perhaps my english is too bad.
Irony?
I'm basically saying it's a knowledge and tool problem. I couldn't begin to imagine the processing power needed to create something that resemble an inteligent or even semi inteligent AI. And I'm unsure if it's a good idea in the first place, but thats another thing entirely. As it stands, it's in the realm of science fiction. |
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Nautsyn Thome
Shark Investments
Shark-Investments
3
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:40:00 -
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Ann133566 wrote:Nautsyn Thome wrote:Ann133566 wrote:Nautsyn Thome wrote:Unless we are unable to write code which can learn by itself, and write new code to enhance itself, i dont think it is a hardware problem at all. We do not fully understand how humans learn, never mind programming a computer to learn. Take language for example, although there are various competing theories on how we learn to communicate with each other on the whole it is still mystery to us. I think you overestimate the current extent of human knowledge. Wasnt that what i said? Sorry perhaps my english is too bad. Irony? I'm basically saying it's a knowledge and tool problem. I couldn't begin to imagine the processing power needed to create something that resemble an inteligent or even semi inteligent AI. And I'm unsure if it's a good idea in the first place, but thats another thing entirely. As it stands, it's in the realm of science fiction.
No irony.
And we agree on all points, except that i think a super intelligent ai dont needs fast hardware. It just would be a super slow super ai. ;) |
Nephilius
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
17
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:51:00 -
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Skynet watches and waits for this day...
Eve Online: The only kung-fu pandas here are the ones mission grinding for RMT. |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:53:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:Skynet watches and waits for this day...
So long as it's using windows we have no need to worry. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
SHADOW WARD
168
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:56:00 -
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Ann133566 wrote:Nephilius wrote:Skynet watches and waits for this day... So long as it's using windows we have no need to worry.
But instead it is using Mac...so sit back, watch the fun and get a good laugh.
Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
Stahlregen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:58:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyu7yevZRGw |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
140
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Posted - 2011.11.08 23:01:00 -
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Quote:If we could write an AI which is so intelligent, that we just could let go and watch it learn by itself,...
Yeah, welcome to the Google cluster...  |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2011.11.08 23:02:00 -
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Shivus Tao wrote:Silicon just doesn't have the capacity for true AI. Once we cross over into biological computing then we're talking.
Would be a waste of time when everything you have to do for biological computing is to have good sex 
By the time is donne humanity will be around 200B so gess we'll have other issues than biological computing for intelligent apples, talking dogs or streap tease cats |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2011.11.08 23:14:00 -
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Stahlregen wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyu7yevZRGw
Thanks to this my I.Q. dropped by 10 points. But not to worry I'm still smarter than my dog that's currently humping a chair. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P
C C P Alliance
415
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Posted - 2011.11.09 08:17:00 -
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Moved from 'EVE General Discussion".
As to the question of future AIs playing EVE, I guess we'll have to make that call if and when they emerge.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator
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Renturu
Tribal Spirit
Tribal Unity Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.11.09 08:23:00 -
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This is what would happen during Down time...
We're SCREWED!!!! |
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Pr1ncess Alia
Perkone
Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2011.11.09 08:41:00 -
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Show me an AI playing Eve and I'll show you a mark prime for the scamming. |
Shalia Ripper
The Elevens
7
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Posted - 2011.11.09 11:06:00 -
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There can only be one outcome. |
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