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Kas Croix
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.21 01:56:00 -
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They're not explicitly enemies(more of you don't like these guys I'm allied with, so by extension I don't particularly care for you) and their combat doctrines even see some crossover(they both like shields, and their "main" enemy is armor tanked to high heaven, and they both favor a wide engagement range and varying damage types to get the job done)
So why aren't there any crossover ships between them? |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
1186
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Posted - 2014.01.21 02:23:00 -
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You'd need a Dev to answer this I think.
There are long term plans for other ships, so it's a possibility in the future.
If you try to keep it lore based I'm not even sure there are any minor factions that would qualify for this racial split.
There are several unrepresented minor factions however.
I guess it's a wait & see situation.
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Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:17:00 -
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I don't know, something to do with putting Caldari paint onto a pile of rust and burnt duct tape, the result just disintegrates before your eyes! Once they can solve that engineering conundrum...
Best crossover imo is the Caldari/Amarr Vengeance.
GÇö+¬GÇö |
Dani Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
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Posted - 2014.01.21 04:49:00 -
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You might find someone has an answer if you ask in the EVE Fiction forum.
I notice CCP Falcon is pretty active answering such questions of lore there.
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.01.21 05:05:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=289772
This thread might also be of interest, but yes you should ask in the EVE fiction section 
Edit - phone does not like my attempts at linking stuff 
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Anomaly One
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Posted - 2014.01.21 07:03:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:You'd need a Dev to answer this I think.
There are long term plans for other ships, so it's a possibility in the future.
If you try to keep it lore based I'm not even sure there are any minor factions that would qualify for this racial split.
There are several unrepresented minor factions however.
Mordus Legion
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Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
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Posted - 2014.01.21 08:21:00 -
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Omega Sunset wrote:I don't know, something to do with putting Caldari paint onto a pile of rust and burnt duct tape, the result just disintegrates before your eyes! Once they can solve that engineering conundrum... Best crossover imo is the Caldari/Amarr Vengeance.
or they put mimmitar paint on a caldari built hull and stick projectile weapons on it. CCP know pirate faction gun ships are preferred for things like incursions so their unlikely to make it missiles focused
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Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:19:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:Omega Sunset wrote:I don't know, something to do with putting Caldari paint onto a pile of rust and burnt duct tape, the result just disintegrates before your eyes! Once they can solve that engineering conundrum... Best crossover imo is the Caldari/Amarr Vengeance. or they put mimmitar paint on a caldari built hull and stick projectile weapons on it. CCP know pirate faction gun ships are preferred for things like incursions so their unlikely to make it missiles focused Mimnitar use paint?!? ...oh the new models :/ heeh
Or they take a Caldari hull, invert it, turn it inside out, beat it with hammers, drill some extra holes into it, torch the rest with an arc welder then submerge the whole shebang in salt water for six months.
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erg cz
Sliperer
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Posted - 2014.01.21 09:30:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:
Mordus Legion
Mordus uses gallente hulls. It is Thukker Tribe, who will get Shields bonus from caldary and artillery bonus from minmatar, from what I know...
I am really looking for ORE mining Battleship... |
Concord Okken
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.21 11:28:00 -
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erg cz wrote:ORE mining Battleship
Kill it with fire |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:10:00 -
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As this is not exactly a New Player question, this thread has been moved to Ships & Modules.
That said, I have taken the liberty of relaying the question to CCP and pointed them at this thread.
ISD Ezwal
Commander
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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To mare
Advanced Technology
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:30:00 -
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CCP actually shoved some interest not long time ago about introducing a pirate missile boat and min/caldari its kind of the obvious choice. said that its not gonna come anytime soon if ever. |
Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm.
JIHADASQUAD
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Posted - 2014.01.21 12:31:00 -
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Any new pirate faction involving one or more of these races should definitely use that new raptor hull that has been seen. As for bonuses perhaps explosive? It seems to be the least utilised damage type of the bunch.
LP store weapon cost rebalance |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
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Posted - 2014.01.21 13:30:00 -
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Kas Croix wrote:They're not explicitly enemies(more of you don't like these guys I'm allied with, so by extension I don't particularly care for you) and their combat doctrines even see some crossover(they both like shields, and their "main" enemy is armor tanked to high heaven, and they both favor a wide engagement range and varying damage types to get the job done)
So why aren't there any crossover ships between them?
Until very recently there was no crossover between Amarr and Gallente either, the SoE ships are the first to do so. Up until that point there was less reason to consider a Cal/Min crossover - give things time and someone will have an idea which fits into the game well and has supporting lore to justify the crossover.
Anomaly One wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:You'd need a Dev to answer this I think.
There are long term plans for other ships, so it's a possibility in the future.
If you try to keep it lore based I'm not even sure there are any minor factions that would qualify for this racial split.
There are several unrepresented minor factions however.
Mordus Legion
Mordus Legion are Intaki crews in Caldari hulls.
The Legion has no Matari Heritage and there is no reason at all that they should have Minmatar crossover.
If Mordu's Legion ships were introduced they would be Gallente/Caldari. And given their heavy favouring of electronic warfare I would imagine they would have ECM and Sensor Damp bonuses and be more hated than the Falcon. |
Treborr MintingtonJr
Quantum Reality R n D
Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2014.01.21 15:10:00 -
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Concord Okken wrote:erg cz wrote:ORE mining Battleship Kill it with fire
Send it to hell! |
Capt Retard
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.21 16:24:00 -
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Thukker Mordu Tempest.
Looks tempest like, but Gunmetal rather than rust.
8/7/7
6 Launcher + 2 Highs
Caldari BS Bonus 7.5 % bonus to all missile velocity.
Minmatar BS Bonus 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount.
Special Ability 37.5% reduction in missile explosion velocity.
175m3 drone bay. |
Aeril Malkyre
Knights of the Ouroboros
313
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Posted - 2014.01.21 18:02:00 -
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erg cz wrote:Anomaly One wrote:Mordus Legion Mordus uses gallente hulls. It is Thukker Tribe, who will get Shields bonus from caldary and artillery bonus from minmatar, from what I know... Capt ****** wrote:Thukker Mordu Tempest.
Looks tempest like, but Gunmetal rather than rust. Not to reiterate myself from previous threads, but no no no no.
Aeril Malkyre wrote:I've been researching the Thukker Tribe a bit lately. Clarifying a few things:
- The Thukker Tribe is a voting body within the Minmatar Republic. They have tribal members living within the Republic. That being said, the bulk of their society does live in the Great Wildlands, traveling in nomadic caravans.
- Thukker Mix is the name of a Thukker run corporation that builds T2 ships. (The only other Thukker Tribe corporation is Trust Partners.) That's why you see Thukker Mix vessels like the Vagabond, Cheetah, and Nomad. The Thukker Mix corporation designed and built them.
While I'd really, really love to see a series of Thukker specific ship models, it seems unlikely. The Thukkers are not a pirate group, nor are they really even a minor faction. They may live on the fringes, but they're still putting out advanced ships and participating in the political process. That makes them solid, if enigmatic, members of regular society. Thukker are not pirates. Mordus are not Matar. |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:42:00 -
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Since CCP is onboard with introducing new "pirate" ship lines that are not pirates and thus only available in the LP store and not through drops... then that means Mordus is a candidate for a new line of ships.
However, Mordus makes far more sense as a gallente/caldari hybrid than guristas do, as they are originaly an Intaki mercenary group aligned with the Caldari. Furthermore, guristas ships are drone ships despite their NPC ships being missile boats.
I say the solution is to overhaul guristas as a minmatar/caldari line of ships that are fast and missile focused, and introduce Mordus ships as caldari/gallente ships that are drones/missiles/shields. Unfortunately it would be a very rough transition, and it would make both drone factions not available as drops, thus making them also the most expensive.
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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
470
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Posted - 2014.01.21 19:49:00 -
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I blame Galente.
Life is short and dinner time is chancy
Eat dessert first! |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Caldari State Capturing
834
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Posted - 2014.01.22 02:02:00 -
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Kas Croix wrote:They're not explicitly enemies(more of you don't like these guys I'm allied with, so by extension I don't particularly care for you) and their combat doctrines even see some crossover(they both like shields, and their "main" enemy is armor tanked to high heaven, and they both favor a wide engagement range and varying damage types to get the job done)
So why aren't there any crossover ships between them?
At Eve Downunder CCP Fozzie said they were looking to fill this gap.
So it seems this is something that is already on his radar.
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2014.01.22 05:27:00 -
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give them time. they just added amar/gal ships
eve style bounties (done)
dust boarding parties
imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |
Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
157
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Posted - 2014.01.22 11:12:00 -
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If they release this ship line, I think it should be a Thukker line as opposed to Mordus. This is the perfect way to introduce "pirate" versions of Minmatar ships into the game.
Angels, like Sansha, use there own unique hulls, but each of the other four faction navies have a mirror "pirate" line other than Minmatar.
This would be a great opportunity to rectify that.
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James Nikolas Tesla
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.01.22 20:59:00 -
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erg cz wrote:ORE mining Battleship
Take my ISK and SP!
Having a heart is what makes you strong, but it can also make you weak. |
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