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Mirima Thurander
Deventer Exploration An Acquisition
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:24:00 -
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so im nearing then end of training to fly both the gal logi and the mini logi and was wondering how to fit them for
PvP
and
Incursions I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh. |

Berendas
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:32:00 -
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Oneiros - Don't bother with it. Its reliance on drones is a big liability, especially when your fleetmates are depending on you. If your corp runs a lot of armor Logi gangs its worth training for a Guardian.
Scimitar - This depends on your Logi skill level. At Logi 5 there are a few fits that are cap stable with everything, including MWD. I'm at work right now but when I get home I'll be sure to post my old corp's standard Scimitar fit. |

Mirima Thurander
Deventer Exploration An Acquisition
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Posted - 2011.11.08 22:36:00 -
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i only have logi 4 trained tho I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh. |

Kyo Haku
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2011.11.09 00:31:00 -
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The Scimi is good if you are the only logi- but the Basilisk is a much better ship if there are two of you. |

Berendas
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.11.09 02:59:00 -
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Alright, this fit will look really whacky, but its awesome, cap stable with all mods.
Cap Stable Scimi
___________________ High 3x Large S95A Partial Shield Transporter 1x 125mm Gatling Autocannon II (for KM whorage )
Med 1x Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon Microwarpdrive 1x Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction (can make T2 with a 1% PG implant) 1x Invulnerability Field II 2x Cap Recharger II
Low 1x Damage Control II 2x Power Diagnostic System II 1x Capacitor Power Relay
Rigs 2x Medium Capacitor Power Relay
Drones 5x Hornet EX-300 4x Warrior II ___________________
This is only cap stable with Logi 5. I would greatly encourage training it up, especially if your corp runs a lot of gangs that rely on Logi. |

Shawn Pierce
Wandering Incursion Exterminators
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Posted - 2011.11.09 04:13:00 -
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Berendas wrote:Oneiros - Don't bother with it. Its reliance on drones is a big liability, especially when your fleetmates are depending on you. If your corp runs a lot of armor Logi gangs its worth training for a Guardian. I call bull puckey on this response.
Oneiros' are perfectly acceptable as logistical ships, at least for incursions. I have heard someone say that they aren't accepted in PvP for whatever reason. Neuting maybe?
Anyway, to the fit:
4x Large 'Solace' reppers
2x Tracking Links (or more if you can fit them and remain cap stable) Rest of mids are likely cap rechargers to be cap stable
800mm plate Plug resist holes with a couple of energized plating mods of some sort
2x remote repair augmentor rigs (or ancillary current routers if you want to fit 1600mm plate to be less squishy)
5x repper drones
Logi ships will always be better with Logi V and the repper skills to V also. |

Berendas
Clandestine Vector THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2011.11.09 07:25:00 -
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Shawn Pierce wrote:Berendas wrote:Oneiros - Don't bother with it. Its reliance on drones is a big liability, especially when your fleetmates are depending on you. If your corp runs a lot of armor Logi gangs its worth training for a Guardian. I call bull puckey on this response. Oneiros' are perfectly acceptable as logistical ships, at least for incursions. I have heard someone say that they aren't accepted in PvP for whatever reason. Neuting maybe?
Sorry I failed to specify, all of my advice is strictly PVP oriented. All of the flying I currently do is low sec - small gang type stuff, though I have good experience in gangs of ~50 ships. With GCC and gate/station mechanics the way they are, relying on drones is a big no-no because they are so liable to be shot by sentries. Neuting isn't so much a problem because competent Logi pilots will be well out of range unless you are flying against Curses (some gate fights might see Logi pilots getting neuted).
Although, doing some EFT work, the Oneiros isn't nearly as bad as I remembered, for PVE stuff at least. For PVP armor gangs I would still recommend the Guardian for its cap transfers. Most armor gangs that are big (and slow) enough to merit a Logistics ship with use at least 2, which is when you just go with a Guardian. The shield fleets in small gang warfare can get away with 1 Logi though (Scimitar) because of the quicker nature of shield/gank BC's. |

ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.11.09 08:57:00 -
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like recon you NEED logi 5 sorry but the differance between 4 and 5 is huge particually for the scimi.
[Scimitar, Incursions] Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Federation Navy 10MN Afterburner Federation Navy Tracking Link, Tracking Speed Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x4 Warrior II x1 Warrior II x4
This is my incurtion fit. the faction stuff isnt too expensive and it makes getting into a fleet a little easier ("ooo shiney lets pick him compared to the 5 other scimi's that look exactly the same") if you have the isk trade up to ACRII's and fit T2 transporters
[Scimitar, Scimitar Standard 0.0 ] Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II Capacitor Power Relay II
Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Large Shield Extender II ECCM - Ladar II
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Assault Missile Launcher II, Seeker F.O.F. Light Missile I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Hornet EC-300 x5 Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x4
Pretty standard, the trick is the MWD, personally i dont like it and if possible id fit a afterburner but its needed in most fleets even if it causes you to lose a transporter. Pulse the mwd and everything is gravy. missile launcher for kill mailness (fof is best SHOOT EVERYTHING ) no thinking required enemy gets in range pull trigger and get back to staying alive and keeping your mates alive. - Nulla Curas |

Shawn Pierce
Wandering Incursion Exterminators
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Posted - 2011.11.09 17:09:00 -
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One more thing -- in case you didn't know, the Oneiros is changing with the winter expansion. It's losing one medium slot, gaining a low slot, and gaining some power grid. |
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