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Gonk Shack
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Posted - 2006.09.22 15:14:00 -
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Greetings,
I'm running Vista RC1, on a Pentium M 1.5 GHz laptop with 1GB RAM and a ATI Radeon 9600Pro Turbo with 128MB RAM on the card. I'm using the newest ATI Vista beta drivers and i'm getting horrible stuttering problems in EVE.
It ran smooth as silk on XP, but with every Vista release, it seems to be stutterish. I checked out the FPS while in game, and it's solid at about 70+ FPS when my ship is not moving or I am not moving the camera around, but as soon as I move the camera of move my ship, it drops FPS to have a half a second pause every second or so.
I read through some of the FPS tips and tricks, and some refer to making changes to your "prefs.ini" file. I cannot find this file anywhere in my EVE install, where might I find this? And if anyone has any tips to get EVE running smoother in Vista, I would appreciate it. Thanks!
-g0nk
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Hepcat
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Posted - 2006.09.22 17:19:00 -
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The prefs.ini file is located in the cache folder in your eve directory.
Also, I've heard of many problems with the current ATI Vista Beta drivers, so you might try reverting to the drivers included with the RC1 install.
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Wen Jaibao
adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.22 20:18:00 -
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Vista is in beta. Stuff will not run perfectly. Oh, and necroing is bad, mmkay? 
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Gonk Shack
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Hepcat The prefs.ini file is located in the cache folder in your eve directory.
Also, I've heard of many problems with the current ATI Vista Beta drivers, so you might try reverting to the drivers included with the RC1 install.
Ok, well, i have no cache folder in my install.. and also, the same thing was happening with the RC1 Microsoft drivers..
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Gonk Shack
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Posted - 2006.09.22 21:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wen Jaibao Vista is in beta. Stuff will not run perfectly. Oh, and necroing is bad, mmkay? 
I understand that Vista is beta, i've been a MS tester for a long time. I am merely looking to see if anyone has fixes or have come across the same problem..
and Necroing? not sure exactly what you are talking about, but i'm not doing anything "bad"...
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Reincarnator
Amarr adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.09.23 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gonk Shack
Originally by: Wen Jaibao Vista is in beta. Stuff will not run perfectly. Oh, and necroing is bad, mmkay? 
I understand that Vista is beta, i've been a MS tester for a long time. I am merely looking to see if anyone has fixes or have come across the same problem..
and Necroing? not sure exactly what you are talking about, but i'm not doing anything "bad"...
Did you see the date on the post before your first one here?
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Matrix Aran
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.24 01:07:00 -
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AFAIK very few games nowadays run on Linux whitout doing some sort of tweaking, manhandling or emulating. If this isn't true please someone tell me how to load the current version of Eve, WoW, MxO, FEAR, and hitman blooodmoney in 4 steps or less and you have a convert. That out of the way, let me give away my two cents on Vista. Vista isn't specificaly targeted at all us computer geeks that can actualy understand these acronyms. If I put my poor aunt on a machine with linux (yes I have played around with it just a bit) she would have the most terrible time trying to use it. She likes windows XP. She likes MSN telling here the weather, showing her that she has hotmail, walking her through how to do simplistic things. She likes colorful pretty things and eyecandy.
This is one of the thing Microsoft is aiming for. They want to get as many people, not just the geeks using thier OS. I can't truely say from my perspective that I have seen anyone with limited computer knowhow even look at Linux. Vista is something they want Soccer Mom on, something that the kids will go: "Wow! Cool!" at when they see it. Something grandma can actualy learn without having to memorize acronyms and codes. The fact is, Windows is user friendly, and people will upgrade sooner or later. Computer companys will ship it, they want thier computers to look like they're on the cutting edge while being really cheap.
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GLok
Caldari Unauthorised.
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Posted - 2006.09.24 08:45:00 -
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This whole thing is pointless tbh. Your all complaining about how eve wont run on vista and your pc's are good enough. The devs said themselves that the old textures etc will still be in eve. Logically therefore you dont need vista just run with the old graphics i dont see why they would be changed by vista?
Another thing is, people that play eve are addicted. People play ridiculous amounts of time on the game, im sure they wouldnt mind getting vista if it fed their addiction?
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Soratah
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.09.24 09:17:00 -
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Considering that XP in its current form has a shed load of useless crap stuck in both kernal and registry it's about time that MS worked on a new OS. Simply to clear this up.
However, anyone who's an XP user for a longish time probably have programmes or edit the reg themselves to clean these unfortunate background programs up. From what I saw of early Vista Beta excluding the advanced prefetch is that it handles hanging programs REALLY well.
However, it's still beta and like XP64 will take a while before all the optimisations are weaned out (and someone *****s it, strips it, and distros a streamlined release). Still, 2007 sounds like a pretty accurate estimate for release time and several people will probably pick up a copy out of curiosity more than anything.
My chief concern is backwards compatibility, I hope MS solve the issue.
As for the graphics update. I believ that the classic client will get the boosted poly models as well as the dynamic shadow mapping. HDR will be reserved for the Vista DX10 client version.
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PROdotes
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Posted - 2006.10.08 08:27:00 -
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Also... like every windows it's slower... it tryed it with wow... wow runs on 1280x960... cca 22-24 fps on xpsp2... on vista... itos going 8-9 fps (2 year old pc hehe)
eve works fine so far... but only cause i set it to run on xp compactibility... on normal mode it "bumped" the cursor out of the eve screen each time it got near hehe
vista is prolly seeing me around the time i'll borrow the nasa supercomputer to run it... and then a normal pc for running programs on that ^^
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Grez
Minmatar The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.10.08 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Opiette guys I bet you know that Vista requires 800MB of ram for idle mode alone..
You need to learn something about Vista it seems. XP does the same, as do all the Windows versions, they just hide it, so you can't see un-used memory. They finally turned around and said "What's the point in having all that free memory, and THEN loading it into memory when you need it to make it faster?". So, they changed it, Vista now logs which programs you use more, and pre-loads them into memory, even at certain times! So if you open MS Word at 9 am, and close it at 5 pm, then start EVE at 7 pm, it'll remember it, and it'll pre-load it into memory for you as quietly as possible. They have still to perfect the pre-loading, but it's pretty good, loads everything up much quicker.
Technology is called SuperFetch, look it up. ---
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Raven DeBlade
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.10.08 13:41:00 -
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im just amazed at how people still compare XP wich is several years old, and a not yet released nor finished OS like Vista.
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Eclipsen413
Disband
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Posted - 2006.10.08 15:33:00 -
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im running windows vista RC1 Build 5600, and eve and other graphic intensive games work very well.
my specs: AMD Athlon 64 3400+ @ 2.8 ghz (OCed)
1.5gigs of RAM (corsair memory)
Nvidia GeForce 6800GT with 256 RAM
ASUS A8N-SLi Premium mobo
i have the latest beta drivers for all those components and all programs work fine Except for Aol Instant Messanger wich will not run for some reason even with compatability mode
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Kyla Cole
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Posted - 2006.10.09 21:44:00 -
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I love the blatent disregard Mac users have for history - Any of you guys heard of The Xerox PARC facility ???
I hear Mac users claiming Apple invented the mouse, the gui, the light bulb.
All Xerox - well apart from the lightbulb.
As for Linux is better than Windows yada yada - please grow up - it really doesn't matter - I use Windows because I find it reliable, fast, I rarely see a virus, spyware infects more than just Windows boxes as it's written for the universal language of the web i.e tracking cookies - seriously guys please don't hijack ppl's threads with my box is faster than your box DX10 is rubbish blah blah.
P.S DX10 isn't being released on XP - probably because all the MS guys were sick of hearing you whine about how crappy all their software is :P
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Hawklin Nightrunner
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Posted - 2006.10.14 02:42:00 -
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In reponse to Gonk,
The comment further down the thread about the current Beta drivers from ATI being the problem I can confirm that, roll back to the ones that it defaulted to on the windows install and everything will be smooth sailing again. The ones released September 2nd of '06 kill your preformance without a doubt. I tested them myself and quickly threw them out the window due to those preformance issues.
Roll them back and it'll all be golden again.
Originally by: Gonk Shack Greetings,
I'm running Vista RC1, on a Pentium M 1.5 GHz laptop with 1GB RAM and a ATI Radeon 9600Pro Turbo with 128MB RAM on the card. I'm using the newest ATI Vista beta drivers and i'm getting horrible stuttering problems in EVE.
It ran smooth as silk on XP, but with every Vista release, it seems to be stutterish. I checked out the FPS while in game, and it's solid at about 70+ FPS when my ship is not moving or I am not moving the camera around, but as soon as I move the camera of move my ship, it drops FPS to have a half a second pause every second or so.
I read through some of the FPS tips and tricks, and some refer to making changes to your "prefs.ini" file. I cannot find this file anywhere in my EVE install, where might I find this? And if anyone has any tips to get EVE running smoother in Vista, I would appreciate it. Thanks!
-g0nk
          
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Laice
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Posted - 2007.01.19 14:53:00 -
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If Eve went to only vista, i would quit playing Eve. I'm not into this Eye candy. Whats the point? The computer is supposed to be a tool not something that you show your mates.
"HEY GUYS! LOOK AT MY NEW COLOUR START MENU!"
Sounds rather sad doesnt it to you? Microsoft's history lets them down im afraid and the only reason i use windows, like every one else who says this, is to play eve.
Have you seen how much cash the vista ultimate is expected to be? we're talking over 250 pounts (500 dollars) maybe even as high as 300, 400. Who knows, it's microsoft after all.
I'm fed up with these companies offering "Free upgrade to vista premium" with a new pc or laptop. What does vista premium entail? That spells out "cut down version of vista" And all it will be is a teaser for everyone who has this cut down version. When they notice where all the holes are and stupid companies tell them "sorry your windows isnt the right package to do that" how are they going to feel? Then they'll splash out on the new version of vista.
Then again. I used to hate XP. Now i've gotten more used to it i don't notice the slowdown anymore, but it still has a half life. The only reason im using XP really is because its on the reinstallation disk for my laptop. (that and i broke the disk inadvertantly for the windows 2000 copy i stole).
What's a guy to do eh.
I read an article of a guy who managed to claim a rebate on an OEM copy of windows that came with his dell PC. he managed to claim 80 pound back with the proof that he wasnt going to have it installed on his PC. No doubt really that he was just going to use another copy of windows that he had at home. I'll be trying to claim that back if i order a PC and it comes with a copy of an inferior version of windows.
Meh im rambling. I'd better stop typing before i have a fit.
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Zeno Kang
Amarr Royal Knights of Khanid Order of the Khanid Crown
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Posted - 2007.01.19 18:13:00 -
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Just say no to thread necromancy.
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