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Sarah Aeskiras Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.01.21 22:02:00 - [1] - Quote Can concord be in two places in the same system at the same time? IE If concord is already in system, and someone else performs an illegal action off grid but in the same system, does the previously spawned concord despawn or warp off to the new location? Or does a separate group of concord spawn at the new location while the previous group stays put? Tried finding answers online and didn't have any luck, everything just talks about response times....
Paranoid Loyd 330	Posted - 2014.01.21 22:12:00 - [2] - Quote If the first criminal has been dealt with and the new criminal triggers concord, then the same spawn will move to the location of the new criminal act. If both criminal acts happen at the same time then two concord spawns will be created. "PvE in EVE is a trap to turn you into PvP content, don't confuse it for actual gameplay." Lipbite
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance 110	Posted - 2014.01.21 22:32:00 - [3] - Quote I've heard of ships being pulled away from gates with ganks elsewhere in system... myth or truth? If infinite spawns then false? http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb
Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 1798	Posted - 2014.01.21 22:38:00 - [4] - Quote Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: I've heard of ships being pulled away from gates with ganks elsewhere in system... myth or truth? If infinite spawns then false? If the old spawns are not busy then this works. If the old spawns are busy then a new CONCORD spawn will appear in system. I think busy means actually warping to or shooting a red-carded player but it may extend a little after the red-carded player's ship pops. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you.
Eranicus II Auto-Pod Xpress 20	Posted - 2014.01.21 22:45:00 - [5] - Quote On my roid roams, i usually find bears who drew concord to protect their evil rock pulverizing criminal acts, so i grab my alt A and shoot alt B somewere in the system. This removes concord off the roids were my future victims are at. Unless there is a spawn big enough that a single alt cant draw away, usually on .5 system is 2 cruisers and a BS per aggressor.
Gizznitt Malikite Agony Unleashed Agony Empire 3419	Posted - 2014.01.21 23:07:00 - [6] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: I've heard of ships being pulled away from gates with ganks elsewhere in system... myth or truth? If infinite spawns then false? If the old spawns are not busy then this works. If the old spawns are busy then a new CONCORD spawn will appear in system. I think busy means actually warping to or shooting a red-carded player but it may extend a little after the red-carded player's ship pops. This is my understanding too. Something to note: If concord spawned at an earlier time, and is somewhere else in system, the response time for concord to arrive at the seen is increased by 6 seconds as the old concord spawn "warps to your location".
Sarah Aeskiras Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.01.22 01:45:00 - [7] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: If the first criminal has been dealt with and the new criminal triggers concord, then the same spawn will move to the location of the new criminal act. If both criminal acts happen at the same time then two concord spawns will be created. There is no limit to the number of spawns created. So if 20 criminal acts take place at the same time, 20 spawns will be created. Thanks! So one additional question. If two criminal acts happen simultaneously at the same location, so two sets of concord ships spawn, then one criminal act occurs elsewhere afterwards, do BOTH sets of concord police go to the new location? Or does just one set warp off to deal with the single criminal?
Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 1803	Posted - 2014.01.22 03:13:00 - [8] - Quote Sarah Aeskiras wrote: Paranoid Loyd wrote: If the first criminal has been dealt with and the new criminal triggers concord, then the same spawn will move to the location of the new criminal act. If both criminal acts happen at the same time then two concord spawns will be created. There is no limit to the number of spawns created. So if 20 criminal acts take place at the same time, 20 spawns will be created. Thanks! So one additional question. If two criminal acts happen simultaneously at the same location, so two sets of concord ships spawn, then one criminal act occurs elsewhere afterwards, do BOTH sets of concord police go to the new location? Or does just one set warp off to deal with the single criminal? Only the closest one does so. This is why gank fleets will usually dock, get into rookie ships while still Crimewatch redcarded and all undock together. If they just spawned nine CONCORD fleets in an ice belt, that then moves all nine to the station. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you.
Yi-Ming Gren NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE. 48	Posted - 2014.01.22 08:19:00 - [9] - Quote Eranicus II wrote: On my roid roams, i usually find bears who drew concord to protect their evil rock pulverizing criminal acts, so i grab my alt A and shoot alt B somewere in the system. This removes concord off the roids were my future victims are at. Unless there is a spawn big enough that a single alt cant draw away, usually on .5 system is 2 cruisers and a BS per aggressor. If they are pulling concord to protect them while they are mining, than report them as that is a banable offense.
Mortis Betruger F..K Y.U 53	Posted - 2014.01.22 12:00:00 - [10] - Quote If they are pulling concord to protect them while they are mining, than report them as that is a banable offense. [/quote] Evil ******* miners, they must all die.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley Arbitrary Spaceship Destruction The Devil's Warrior Alliance 110	Posted - 2014.01.22 12:32:00 - [11] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley wrote: I've heard of ships being pulled away from gates with ganks elsewhere in system... myth or truth? If infinite spawns then false? If the old spawns are not busy then this works. If the old spawns are busy then a new CONCORD spawn will appear in system. I think busy means actually warping to or shooting a red-carded player but it may extend a little after the red-carded player's ship pops. That's interesting... thanks! http://www.devilswarrior.info/kb
Leto Thule Sons of Retribution 293	Posted - 2014.01.22 16:01:00 - [12] - Quote Yi-Ming Gren wrote: Eranicus II wrote: On my roid roams, i usually find bears who drew concord to protect their evil rock pulverizing criminal acts, so i grab my alt A and shoot alt B somewere in the system. This removes concord off the roids were my future victims are at. Unless there is a spawn big enough that a single alt cant draw away, usually on .5 system is 2 cruisers and a BS per aggressor. If they are pulling concord to protect them while they are mining, than report them as that is a banable offense. No, its not. Killboard https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/
Sipphakta en Gravonere 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 485	Posted - 2014.01.22 17:54:00 - [13] - Quote Yi-Ming Gren wrote: If they are pulling concord to protect them while they are mining, than report them as that is a banable offense. Yeah, no, that's bullshit. I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC. -- TheGunslinger42 "** goons, they only kill stuff that can't shoot back, they aren't killing us fast enough, they missed my **** Ibis so they failed, CCP ban goons they shot my ship." -- Distracted
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS CODE. 194	Posted - 2014.01.22 18:58:00 - [14] - Quote Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Yi-Ming Gren wrote: If they are pulling concord to protect them while they are mining, than report them as that is a banable offense. Yeah, no, that's bullshit. There was a ruling about it somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it up. New player resources: http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page - General information http://www.evealtruist.com/p/know-your-enemy.html - Learn to PvP http://belligerentundesirables.com/ - Safaris, Awoxes, Ganking and Griefing-á
unidenify Caldari Provisions Caldari State 31	Posted - 2014.01.22 20:13:00 - [15] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Yi-Ming Gren wrote: If they are pulling concord to protect them while they are mining, than report them as that is a banable offense. Yeah, no, that's bullshit. There was a ruling about it somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it up. >pull concord to other location for delaying purpose >is not exploit >pull concord to miner location for faster reaction purpose >is exploit ha no.
Mister Simms Society for Miner Education 17	Posted - 2014.01.22 22:04:00 - [16] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Yi-Ming Gren wrote: If they are pulling concord to protect them while they are mining, than report them as that is a banable offense. Yeah, no, that's bullshit. There was a ruling about it somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it up. I recall that as well. The issue wasn't moving Concord, the issue was using disposable alts to do it. The same reasoning is why using disposable alts to gank is considered an exploit. So continually cycling ganking alts is also seen as an exploit.
Sabriz Adoudel Mission BLITZ 1814	Posted - 2014.01.22 22:06:00 - [17] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Yi-Ming Gren wrote: If they are pulling concord to protect them while they are mining, than report them as that is a banable offense. Yeah, no, that's bullshit. There was a ruling about it somewhere, I'll see if I can dig it up. I want to see clear evidence of this too. Message the evidence to me, and also post it on the Minerbumping website forums. Given how much CONCORD rules and a few other rules (insurance) have been set up to screw with both career gankers and newbies that accidentally shoot someone illegally in highsec, I'd be surprised (and delighted) if CCP made this ruling. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content. EVE's golden rule: Never trust anyone in-game unless you are sleeping with them in real life. Even then, they may only be screwing you to screw you.
Mister Simms Society for Miner Education 17	Posted - 2014.01.22 22:27:00 - [18] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: I want to see clear evidence of this too. Message the evidence to me, and also post it on the Minerbumping website forums. Sheesh... not demanding or anything. Want him to get you a cup of coffee while he's at it?

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