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Verlane Nalelmir
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.01.22 22:58:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Reimbursing people who willingly jump into a massive clusterfuck, where they're expecting to lose ships and knowing full well that they'll overload the node by doing so, is just plain pants on head feeble minded.
But that was the plan: for them to jump a huge group of people into another huge group of people. When it has happened before the game has actually crashed, yet this time it did not. I, for one, am glad that their fighting didn't effect the game as much as it has in the past.
Now go out and make more ships to throw away by mass jumping into another huge group of people. Can't wait for the forum threads on the next fight  |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
29
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:00:00 -
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This one time I jumped an Imicus in a wormhole and lost it because I didn't know they were so dangerous.
I expect a reimbursment too.
I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
http://andallcombat.wordpress.com/current-tournament/ |
Kryptik Kai
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
6812
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:13:00 -
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I demand cake
"Shiny.-á Lets be bad guys." -Jayne Cobb |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
9456
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:17:00 -
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All NPC forum alts who demand reimbursements should have wallets, SP and remaps all set negative for all characters on their account.
This is why I can never be a DEV, and why we all cant have nice things.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1263
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:21:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:You shouldn't get ****.
Not empty quoting.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword |
CroisisCZ
BAND of MAGNUS
21
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:24:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:CCP is pretty inconsistent with their own rules. They recently reimbursed a supercarrier that bugged while attempting to jump out.
Seriously?
That SC died because of a BUG involving smartbombs, not lag.
But what else can one expect from a Goon than spinning, mockery when things go their way and rivers of tears when they dont.
Try harder and please cry more  |
Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
462
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:25:00 -
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OP, if you expect someone to negotiate, it's usually best not to threaten them. In your first thread, you threatened to destroy Amarr and Jita, mass unsubs and as much negative press as you could possibly generate. Luckily, you're no longer threatening your fellow players, but if you think your final paragraph about 'educational' videos meant to tarnish CCP's reputation and dissuade new players from trying EVE is going to get you anywhere, you're a hopeless cause.
I wasn't kidding about happily taking some of your stuff off of you and your friends' quitting hands. I've never asked for anyone's stuff before and judging solely from the level of discontent, this seemed like a great time to start. Now, I can't get any stuff if you don't ragequit, so I'm not going to be able to keep giving you sage advice unfortunately. So after this, I'm either going to ignore you (most likely) or troll you along with everyone else (not impossible.) Just stop writing these comments on the forum. They aren't doing you any favors. Writing in GD is not how you contact CCP. It's how you troll/harass/amuse other players.
Properly-formatted, intelligent idea proposals are submitted in F&I.
CCP has issued it's statement on HED-GP and I wouldn't expect them to reverse their decision. (If incessant whining got you somewhere, omg, it would never end.) You may disagree with their non-intervention policy, and when you're on the losing end that stick, it may seem horribly unfair. But it's the most fair position they can adopt. No one wants CCP replacing some ships some days and not replacing them on others. Having a hands-off attitude is the best policy they can adopt.
You fell off your horse. It happens. Get back on it and start plotting a way to get revenge on your enemies in game and stop threatening the guys who had nothing to do with what happened to you.
YK
"High-five, fist bump, explode, implode, fist bump again, under-five, up-five, chest-bump...ohhhhh....call 911!"
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8754
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:27:00 -
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CroisisCZ wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:CCP is pretty inconsistent with their own rules. They recently reimbursed a supercarrier that bugged while attempting to jump out. Seriously? That SC died because of a BUG involving smartbombs, not lag. But what else can one expect from a Goon than spinning, mockery when things go their way and rivers of tears when they dont. Try harder and please cry more
All the same, CCP's reimbursement policy explicitly says that they don't reimburse in large fleet engagements for anything.
In that scenario they broke that policy.
It shouldn't have been reimbursed any more than our capitals in HED-GP.
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Alice Ituin
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:31:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:CCP is pretty inconsistent with their own rules. They recently reimbursed a supercarrier that bugged while attempting to jump out.
Urrgs...
That one was lost due to an actual bug, not because some stupid carebears deliberately lagged a node.
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2373
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:36:00 -
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shut the hell up about HED already nobody cares |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
289
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:36:00 -
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Aren't you the one who threatened to quit? Why are you people so full of ****?
Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count!
Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)
You're at it from day 0! |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
938
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:37:00 -
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CCP give dread plz. |
CroisisCZ
BAND of MAGNUS
21
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:37:00 -
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Silent Nightingale wrote:
... whining and tears...
Dear OP, thank you very much for your persistence in this matter. Your constant whining, unending flow of tears and plain ignorance reminds me why this game is so great and why I love it.
Your shift from threats and blackmailing to "negotiating" is really amusing.
Also your claim that because you didnt know there is a policy it shouldnt apply to you has to make most people laugh.
There cant be a numerical definition of a "large scale" engagement because it would clearly cause people whine even more if there was +1/-1 person present but everyone clearly understands what CCP means.
Also, may I have yor stuff when you unsub as promised?
Oh, never mind, you have already lost it all... |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8755
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:38:00 -
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Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Aren't you the one who threatened to quit? Why are you people so full of ****?
Anybody that quits over this is ********.
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
289
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:40:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Aren't you the one who threatened to quit? Why are you people so full of ****? Anybody that quits over this is ********.
She's *********** (what?) anyway, so if she and the others quit as promised it would actually be an improvement!
Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count!
Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)
You're at it from day 0! |
Worn Xeno
One over Zero
24
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:40:00 -
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What is Eve's #1 Rule?
DON'T FLY WHAT YOU CANNOT AFFORD TO LOSE
Yeah the flight being laggy as hell must have sucked, but these are part of the risks involved when staging a such super-massive scale fleet fight.
And the reason why ships in such fleet fights should never be reimbursed is very simple: If you get your ships back, the next time a fleet fight happens (which are always somewhat laggy) some idiot will scream "Hey TIDI was 50%, give me back my ship, you did it for the last fleetfight too and this was as laggy as that one !!!!111One!!" |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
289
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:41:00 -
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Anyhow, can't we all just collectively report her and request a ban?
For the community!
Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count!
Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)
You're at it from day 0! |
Layla Firoue
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
44
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:42:00 -
[48] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:CroisisCZ wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:CCP is pretty inconsistent with their own rules. They recently reimbursed a supercarrier that bugged while attempting to jump out. Seriously? That SC died because of a BUG involving smartbombs, not lag. But what else can one expect from a Goon than spinning, mockery when things go their way and rivers of tears when they dont. Try harder and please cry more All the same, CCP's reimbursement policy explicitly says that they don't reimburse in large fleet engagements for anything. In that scenario they broke that policy. It shouldn't have been reimbursed any more than our capitals in HED-GP.
Typical goon density, there is a difference between a bug which was verified and reproduced and a lack of understanding of tidi and server mechanics resulting in stupidity. I sometimes wonder how you guys even find your own arses, I am pretty sure for a great many of you its difficult without someone telling you where it is since you seem to be too dense to think on your own.
You know apples and oranges but hey its goons what do you expect, 10k+ people only able to F1 ah right even that is too difficult now hence the domis and the drone assign. Funny thing you might even had killed some stuff if you had controlled your drones by yourself in HED like other people did.
There were a dozen methods taking the server/node situation into account to get your caps into the system and ensure they would load grid you chose the worst, the method every nullsec dweller should have had its doubts about if it was a good decision to jump 700 caps onto an already straining grid. But hey keep spinning, keep making morons out of yourself. You filled so many buckets of delicious tears for so many people its really amusing.
Now blaming CCP for being an idiot yourself is really amusing. Blame your moron of an FC not CCP.
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BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:47:00 -
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Silent Nightingale wrote:Desperately Immature Whining.
CCP Please Permaban this loser...
Who in their right mind would even bother reading that entire snivelling diatribe???
Whatta Drag...
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Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
289
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Posted - 2014.01.22 23:52:00 -
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Well ... I, for one ... reported the OP and requested a ban.
Complaining isn't enough. Report the post, ask for a ban!
Create a new, pretty, female character! Make the name count!
Join the epic boo bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)
You're at it from day 0! |
Mike Azariah
DemSal Corporation
DemSal Unlimited
800
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:28:00 -
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You assume FC and higher ups know what they are doig, that is why you follow their orders.
I assume they knew what they were doing and the possible results . . . but they decided to go ahead and do it anyways.
There is a price for that and the line members paid it, or the SRP did (if the fleet had one)
No, I do not support your request.
m
Mike Azariah-á CSM8 |
Verlane Nalelmir
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:31:00 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:You assume FC and higher ups know what they are doig, that is why you follow their orders.
I assume they knew what they were doing and the possible results . . . but they decided to go ahead and do it anyways.
There is a price for that and the line members paid it, or the SRP did (if the fleet had one)
No, I do not support your request.
m
Getting my Like for sure. Enough Said. |
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Space Hobos Inc.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
400
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:34:00 -
[53] - Quote
I followed the FC's orders. They are almighty and on equal footing with Jesus. This means that even though I undocked and planned for a fight, because I got blown up I should get reimbursed.
LogicGäó
Honor is a fools prize.
Glory is of no use to the dead.
Be a man! Post with your main!
~Vas'Avi Community Manager |
AFK Hauler
State War Academy
908
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:47:00 -
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Silent Nightingale wrote:
.... bla bla bla... The pilots were recommended to turn for explanations to their coalition leaders, and the coalition leaders were asked to prevent their members from sending petitions within the framework of cooperation with you. ... more bla bla bla...
From my understanding there is no such thing as an official coalition in EVE. It is a meta state invented by the players and not officially sanctioned by CCP - that I know of.
I would like to see this as a new official mechanic in EVE to officially recognize larger forms of player organizations.
CCP should only be dealing with alliance leaders separately unless they officially recognize the coalition as a proper unit of organization above the alliance.
oh, yeah... IB4L |
Apocryphal Noise
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:54:00 -
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Pytria Le'Danness wrote:TL,DR:
Starving null sec alliance lost a fight, has an alt beg CCP for their ships back.
Why not also ask CCP to spawn some more R64 moons?
It's not about the money, it's about sending a message. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15584
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Posted - 2014.01.23 00:58:00 -
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Apocryphal Noise wrote:Pytria Le'Danness wrote:TL,DR:
Starving null sec alliance lost a fight, has an alt beg CCP for their ships back.
Why not also ask CCP to spawn some more R64 moons? It's not about the money, it's about sending a message.
Message reads :
We're a bunch of mewling quims?
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8755
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:07:00 -
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Layla Firoue wrote:Typical goon density, there is a difference between a bug which was verified and reproduced and a lack of understanding of tidi and server mechanics resulting in stupidity. I sometimes wonder how you guys even find your own arses, I am pretty sure for a great many of you its difficult without someone telling you where it is since you seem to be too dense to think on your own.
EVE Online Reimbursement Policy wrote:5. Any losses of any kind resulting from a large-scale player engagement are not covered by this reimbursement policy.
http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-reimbursement-policy/
Of any kind.
So I'm confused as to why you're arguing so vehemently against me when I'm also saying that we shouldn't be reimbursed under this policy.
My point is, he shouldn't have been either. The policy doesn't say "except when there's a bug", it says "any losses of any kind resulting from a large-scale player engagement are not covered".
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8755
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:08:00 -
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The larger point is, if CCP never reimbursed in these cases instead of continuously breaking their own rules, they wouldn't have gotten so many reimbursement requests in the first place because most people involved would have known better.
It's because GMs are so inconsistent about this that we have this issue in the first place.
We also wouldn't get threads like this because it wouldn't be a surprise to anyone that they don't reimburse.
My EVE Videos |
Verlane Nalelmir
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:12:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Layla Firoue wrote:Typical goon density, there is a difference between a bug which was verified and reproduced and a lack of understanding of tidi and server mechanics resulting in stupidity. I sometimes wonder how you guys even find your own arses, I am pretty sure for a great many of you its difficult without someone telling you where it is since you seem to be too dense to think on your own. EVE Online Reimbursement Policy wrote:5. Any losses of any kind resulting from a large-scale player engagement are not covered by this reimbursement policy. Of any kind. So I'm confused as to why you're arguing so vehemently against me when I'm also saying that we shouldn't be reimbursed under this policy. My point is, he shouldn't have been either. The policy doesn't say "except when there's a bug", it says "any losses of any kind resulting from a large-scale player engagement are not covered".
Next question is: What is the actual number for large-scale player engagement? |
Bloodmyst Ranwar
Dark Miresa
27
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Posted - 2014.01.23 01:17:00 -
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Rule No. 1 of PvP
- You lost your ship when you undocked. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
You should have known what you were flying into and expected such lag. It's no ones fault but your own. Either get over it or keep QQ'ing.
I don't mind the tears though :) |
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