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MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:46:00 -
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Edited by: MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn on 28/03/2006 19:46:02
1. You cant target.
2. You cant tank.
Where as
1. He/She can target and inflict a lot of damage just from 5 drones
2. Tank with help from the nos.
3. Basically sit back, activate modules and drones and wait till the killmail arrives.
Overpowered.
Domi I beleive isnt overpowered, but when fit with nos and jammers, it is.
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:47:00 -
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Fight an autopest, ECM raven, and sometimes typhoons and you will get the same problem. If you dont like the fact that he beats you 1v1, bring a friend along next time. Just be glad he wasnt using a shield tank + railguns + gank lows with a tackler friend, as you'll die in 1/4 of the time 
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 Originally by: Oveur
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:48:00 -
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Captain obvious to the rescue.
Now try an AC tempest with EW.
A Raven with EW.
And the rest of the crap battleships with not enough med slots to ***** it.
Scream overpowered!
Originally by: KilROCK
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Rens Doggery
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:50:00 -
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The Domi is just a good platform for ECM. ECM is either useless or very effective, there is no midway. You can fit nos on any ship, and most BS-sized ships have a drone bay big enough to have 5 heavy drones in it.
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Felxia
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:50:00 -
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what about anything else with ecm eh? OVERPOWERED NERF NERF NERF 
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ChalSto
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:02:00 -
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You can say to all ships, which are using nos+noncap weapons+ecm, omfgoverpowerd.
Think of a ecm-raven -> 6X sieges+2xNOS+ecm+tank = evil
Think of a ecm-phoon -> 4x sieges+4xNOS+ecm+tank = evil
Think of a ecm-scorp -> sieges+nos+ecm+tank = evil
Think of a ecm-domi -> NOS+ecm+DRONES+tank = evil
So who is overpowerd?
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:10:00 -
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Preeeecisely!
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Originally by: Oveur
I see boobies! \o/
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:16:00 -
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Domi is kinda flavor of the month right now. So I think you just see them more than the others. But unless you are running one
of the other ecm+nos platforms, that Domi will win.
Best tag team I ever saw was Domi and scorp. Now the Domi doesnt need to fit ECM. Can you guess that the result of that was?
Originally by: Drayce
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MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:18:00 -
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yes I should have thought this through, I beleive nos and target jammers are both overpowered to an extent.
Nos itself is only overpowered VS smaller ships. But in a situation where you have nos and its useless cos your jammed, its quite fustrating.
I normally go off the principal of a basic tank + damage setup. The 2 heavy nos I fit on my raven are purely because they are just the most useful item to fit thier. I could fit 2 250s, that would prove helpful I guess.
But my tank uses all my medium slots but 1, I normally fit a sensor booster, but I changed it to a module that doubled my target strength when active, it didnt help that whatsoever.
In a 1v1, I've had the chance to get at most 3 volleys of missiles away before I get jammmed, and then when I get a lock again, dam, that domi's armor is fully repaired, and its tanking sentries too.
So yea, you can probably do that same with most other battleships, tank+nos+jammers, but the domi having a drone dmg bonus makes it better at doing it.
Still I dont think target jammers or nos is fair.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:24:00 -
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I would agree the Domi is the pure and extreme example. The other platforms you general significantly reduce your damage to fit that NOS. Domi can have its drones be its main weapon, and completely fill up on nos. Most other ships can reduce their tanking ability (shield tankers = lots of midlots) ti fit ECMs. Domi can armor tank. Few ships can tank sentries for long, Domi tanks them using your cap.
Its correct the other platforms can do the same tactics, but armor tanking a raven is not without its problems. The Domi is best suited, fits the role perfectly, and counters seem to be limited to outnumber the domi. Which when he has his 'silent' scorp partner waiting in the wings who warps in at 100km once the Domi, who only has scrams in his mids, has your 3 BSes stuck, means you lose 3 BSes. And rather quickly. Course they had some lucky ECM rolls, but still, makes you wonder.
Originally by: Drayce
Between the learning skills and the tutorial, Eve is like a firewall against the attention deficit kids
I like it this way
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:28:00 -
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You understand that it is Not the Dominix that is overpowered, but the Modules Themselves (NOS, Target Jammer), that makes it overpowered.
You remove those 2 modules.. and the dominix is just another battleship.
No need to nerf the Dominix, Nerf NOS and Target Jammer.
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Zysco
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:28:00 -
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1400 IIs + EMP + ECM = Overpowered. (Tempest)
1). You cant target
2) You die
Where as he
1) Can 1 volley cruisers and 2 volley hacs and BCs
2) Cant be shot back due to ECM
3) Basically sits back, activates modules and wait til the killmail arrives
Overpowered.
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MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Jones
You understand that it is Not the Dominix that is overpowered, but the Modules Themselves (NOS, Target Jammer), that makes it overpowered.
You remove those 2 modules.. and the dominix is just another battleship.
No need to nerf the Dominix, Nerf NOS and Target Jammer.
Yea sorry about that. I forgot about the other battleships after RMR. 
To make it clear, I am whining about Nos and Target Jammers, not the domi! 
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
Originally by: Phoenix Jones
You understand that it is Not the Dominix that is overpowered, but the Modules Themselves (NOS, Target Jammer), that makes it overpowered.
You remove those 2 modules.. and the dominix is just another battleship.
No need to nerf the Dominix, Nerf NOS and Target Jammer.
Yea sorry about that. I forgot about the other battleships after RMR.
To make it clear, I am whining about Nos and Target Jammers, not the domi!
thats why domi is in the title?
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MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
Originally by: Phoenix Jones
You understand that it is Not the Dominix that is overpowered, but the Modules Themselves (NOS, Target Jammer), that makes it overpowered.
You remove those 2 modules.. and the dominix is just another battleship.
No need to nerf the Dominix, Nerf NOS and Target Jammer.
Yea sorry about that. I forgot about the other battleships after RMR.
To make it clear, I am whining about Nos and Target Jammers, not the domi!
thats why domi is in the title?
I know, was mistaken, I only seem to ever have engagements with that BS though, and its always using nos and jammers.
I dont think you should be able to use nos and target jammers together on one ship.
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danneh
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:08:00 -
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We all agree then, boost Amarr.
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Senator Palpatine
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:35:00 -
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I think Hybrids Projectiles are overpowered.
They emit these weird things called ammo that inflict damage! I cant counter this unless I fit one of these modules on called a repairer, but then that takes up one of my precious slots!
CCP Please Fix this ASAP!!!!
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Ellah
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Posted - 2006.03.28 22:50:00 -
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EW - nos Domi is just a short range ship,... get distance if you don't her.
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Na Jenton
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Posted - 2006.03.28 22:57:00 -
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carry FoF missiles and pray.
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KaptnSparrow
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Posted - 2006.03.28 23:19:00 -
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thats why you have the scorpions:
4 x siege with tech 2 long range
6 x jammers
2 x booster
1 x plate
1 x large repper
2 x bcu
sit back at 200km+ and jamm them to death until your torps slowly get to hit them...
...o damn they are all gone
so what we learn:
1. we can jamm them
2. we are out of their range
3. target warps away
there are neither the modules overpowered or the ships, you just ave to use the right tactics.
and a scorpion with 4 railguns, uhm yeah make no real damage....
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Derran
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Posted - 2006.03.28 23:29:00 -
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I get a kick out of how the Dominix went from being among the worst of the battleships to the one they all complain about being too strong.
Personally, I like fitting one of those med slot items that boosts my sensor strength by 60% so it will reduce their chances. Unless you have a friend with an ECCM projector which can boost it by up to 120%. Jam this, sucka!
I've also tried using a Cerberus with tech II assaults. It was funny when a blackbird, thorax and Stilletto tried to kill me. They couldn't get through my tank and I had FoF missiles going like crazy.
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Hugh Ruka
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Posted - 2006.03.29 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Jones
You understand that it is Not the Dominix that is overpowered, but the Modules Themselves (NOS, Target Jammer), that makes it overpowered.
You remove those 2 modules.. and the dominix is just another battleship.
No need to nerf the Dominix, Nerf NOS and Target Jammer.
lol, put normal dron bay on dominix and it is the normal BS it should be (and almost useless). I see you realy understand what is the ship made for.
I would say leave 2-3 high slots on the dominix and it falls more in line as it won't nos that much. or leave only tackling mids (3-4 mid slots).
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jamesw
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Posted - 2006.03.29 00:13:00 -
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The effect of Nos + jammers will really have no difference whatsoever if the drones are doing 300dps or 500dps. Either way you wont be tanking them and you wont be shooting back. Sure it will take 20 seconds longer for you to die, but it will still happen just the same.
As said already - its ECM, not the Dominix that is overpowered.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.29 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Zysco
1400 IIs + EMP + ECM = Overpowered. (Tempest)
1). You cant target
2) You die
Where as he
1) Can 1 volley cruisers and 2 volley hacs and BCs
2) Cant be shot back due to ECM
3) Basically sits back, activates modules and wait til the killmail arrives
Overpowered.
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Hugh Ruka
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Posted - 2006.03.29 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw
The effect of Nos + jammers will really have no difference whatsoever if the drones are doing 300dps or 500dps. Either way you wont be tanking them and you wont be shooting back. Sure it will take 20 seconds longer for you to die, but it will still happen just the same.
As said already - its ECM, not the Dominix that is overpowered.
standard BS drone bay is 75m3 so 3 heavy drones. btw Dominix now has the same sitaution as a raven, tank and main damage are seperated with no relationship to each other. all the other ships share tank and damage either slot wise, cap wise or both.
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xPreatorianx
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:32:00 -
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Whiners + threads = Overpowered
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Disco Sucks
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Posted - 2006.03.29 02:51:00 -
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Strawberries + Ice Cream = overpowered.
If you disagree, you're either lying, or going to hell.
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Semkhet
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Posted - 2006.03.29 11:52:00 -
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Sick and tired of whiners. Get a brain, observe, learn, try & repeat until you succeed. Is that any different from RL ?
There is always a situation where X will beat Y not because Y is basically weak, but because X has a setup Y wasn't prepared to counter.
Scared from jamming ? Fit ECCM.
Scared from drones ? Fit SB's or use drones yourself.
Scared from NOS ? Design a setup who allows you to stay out of their range.
Besides, why don't you fly a Domi with exactly the setup you believe is overpowered to find out who and how you can still get wtfpnwd ?
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MuShRoOm ChAmPiOn
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Posted - 2006.03.29 14:27:00 -
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I do fly the domi as well on an alt of mine, with gallente BS lvl4 and I can use t2 heavy ogres/preators on this following setup;
Highs
6 X Electron Blaster Cannon II
Mediums
1 X 100MN Afterburner II
1 X X5 Proto
1 X Fleeting Warp Scram
1 X Sensor Booster II
1 X Electromag...medium cap booster with cap 800 charges
Lows
1 X Large Armor Repairer II
3 X Active kin, thermal explosive hardener t2
1 X Adaptive Nano II
2 X Magnetic Field Stabiliser II
Mix of t2 ogres/preators, and 2 groups of t2 acolytes.
This thing screams dps, and like some of you have said, its just your setup VS your weakness, but the ammount of people using jammers these days is fustrating, and getting rid of the old pure damage setups. I mean, at most I am in a gang of 4, I aint in with all the fleet crowd, I dont want to fit ECM.
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CB Cyrix
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Posted - 2006.03.29 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: CB Cyrix on 29/03/2006 15:21:17
Originally by: ChalSto
You can say to all ships, which are using nos+noncap weapons+ecm, omfgoverpowerd.
Think of a ecm-raven -> 6X sieges+2xNOS+ecm+tank = evil
Think of a ecm-phoon -> 4x sieges+4xNOS+ecm+tank = evil
Think of a ecm-scorp -> sieges+nos+ecm+tank = evil
Think of a ecm-domi -> NOS+ecm+DRONES+tank = evil
So who is overpowerd?
EVERYONE else, amarr dont have EW boat!
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