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Daos Leghki	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:36:00 - [1] Hi, I'm relatively new to the whole combat thing and I was wondering what the longest range BS is. I'm assuming all the range-enhancing skills to V (I only found 2). Also, assume the longest range T2 guns, and T2 ammo. If you could also give the range for T1 guns and ammo, that would be great. Finally, assume that lock distance and time are being enhanced by modules to the point where they are not a problem. Please don't flame, I don't care about damage or balance. I'm just curious about the engagement ranges of battleships.
Anjerrai Meloanis	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:37:00 - [2] Megathron i imagine, no idea about range though. uh.
Daos Leghki	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:40:00 - [3] Grrr, posting with alt 4tw.
Hinik	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:40:00 - [4] yeah Megathron I believe, my mega with T2 425s and Spike ammo 2 tracking comps and a tracking enhancer has an optimal of 219km... and with 2 sensor boosters I can only lock 211km LOVES CHARITY REGARD
Iyala Vitae	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:40:00 - [5] o_O Wow, that wasn't even 5 minutes. Thanks for the reply
Hast	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:48:00 - [6] actually I think it might be the Typhoon since its good a range bonus on the BS skill, although it isnt a good sniper due to the fact that it only has four gunslots
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:50:00 - [7] Raven with cruise can fire 250km.
Velius Donegal	Posted - 2006.03.29 16:51:00 - [8] Edited by: Velius Donegal on 29/03/2006 16:52:39 Actually the Typhoon has the longest range by far. With Minmatar Battleship 5, T2 1400mm Howitzers (with tremor, obviously), 3 sensor booster IIs, 2 tracking computer IIs and a tracking enhancer II the Typhoon has an optimal of 234 km and can target out to 235 km. Only about 185 dps before resists though. This is going to be changed in the future most likely, however, when they Typhoon's range bonus gets changed to something else, most likely missile launcher ROF.
Daos Leghki	Posted - 2006.03.29 17:03:00 - [9] Wow, bloody fast replies guys, thanks a lot. What about other battleships? Do beams just suck for range?
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.03.29 17:08:00 - [10] At 240+ km, missiles I can spam. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!

DayVV4lkEr	Posted - 2006.03.29 17:10:00 - [11] Raven with Javelin Torps is around 260 km (so if the target doesn't move ....)
Fuyursuki	Posted - 2006.03.29 18:26:00 - [12] /me is depressed that his 'proficient at long-range bombardment' tempest is outclassed in the range game by his tier one bs counterpart
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.03.29 18:29:00 - [13] Originally by: DayVV4lkEr Raven with Javelin Torps is around 260 km (so if the target doesn't move ....) You can't target beyond 250km with a raven, though. It's hard-coded. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Espen	Posted - 2006.03.29 19:31:00 - [14] Isn't torps suppose to be close range? And it has one of the longest range, wtf? O_o
Zhon	Posted - 2006.03.29 19:36:00 - [15] Originally by: Espen Isn't torps suppose to be close range? And it has one of the longest range, wtf? O_o javelin is tech 2. Flys like a cruise hits like a Torp. It does require the ravcen to move at 32ms and make it very easy for long range gunboats to lay the smack tard down on it tho
Max Teranous	Posted - 2006.03.29 22:58:00 - [16] Of course, you can go and make yourself a coffee while the missiles travel 250km, and still get back in time to warp off Max
Viktor Fyretracker	Posted - 2006.03.29 23:25:00 - [17] Originally by: Max Teranous Of course, you can go and make yourself a coffee while the missiles travel 250km, and still get back in time to warp off or with passive targeter have 2-3 salvos inbound and they will never know what happened.
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.03.29 23:32:00 - [18] Megathron for instant long range goodness. Raven with Cruise for delayed laughability... (is that even a word). Originally by: KilROCK My sig are under or 24kb, Each of them. SO PAWS OFF, that's the 3rd time, seriously annoyed now.
Macky Oriley	Posted - 2006.03.29 23:35:00 - [19] A passive targetter only stops them knowing you're targetted them until you fire, but as soon as you do fire you'll still be a little flashing red icon to them... However, at those kind of ranges unless they're fully zoomed out and fitted in a ship that itself can lock that fire out they really will never know... Problem arises in the fact that it really will take a life time for your missiles to arrive, meaning even the 15km from warp in to gate will have been traversed by all but the slowest of slow ships....
Constantinee	Posted - 2006.03.30 00:00:00 - [20] a raven with t2 cruise launchers missles and bcs's can hit from 250km easily ive done it and in my apoc most range ive gotten was 201km

Bainie	Posted - 2006.03.30 00:19:00 - [21] In case you are simply not looking for a BS but a good sniper in general then the eagle is worth mentioning...with what i currently use on at the moment it has an optimal with spike and 250 T2 rails of 211km....which is amazingly good for a cruiser, in same league as the BS' are rangewise for sniping.
Viktor Fyretracker	Posted - 2006.03.30 03:51:00 - [22] Originally by: Macky Oriley A passive targetter only stops them knowing you're targetted them until you fire, but as soon as you do fire you'll still be a little flashing red icon to them... However, at those kind of ranges unless they're fully zoomed out and fitted in a ship that itself can lock that fire out they really will never know... Problem arises in the fact that it really will take a life time for your missiles to arrive, meaning even the 15km from warp in to gate will have been traversed by all but the slowest of slow ships.... didnt know that i allways figured they didnt get the flashing until after the first missle hit, there goes a few of my ideas for striking back at gate snipers i currently need to sneak past.
MercedesBenz	Posted - 2006.03.30 04:16:00 - [23] How long would it take a torp or cruise missile to travel 250km?
Szordin	Posted - 2006.03.30 05:36:00 - [24] Well in my raven my cruise missile velocity is 5750m/s 250/5.750 = 43 seconds way more than enough time for your target to run, if they notice the missiles
The Cold	Posted - 2006.03.30 06:33:00 - [25] Originally by: Szordin Well in my raven my cruise missile velocity is 5750m/s 250/5.750 = 43 seconds way more than enough time for your target to run, if they notice the missiles hahahahaha. noob
Morikai Acler	Posted - 2006.03.30 06:41:00 - [26] I get 220km range on cruise missiles myself, and I'm not maxed out as far as missile velocity and flight time skills go. Thats just normal cruise missiles, plus with 2 tech 2 sensor boosters you can get 220km lock without maxed skills on a raven. I haven't even tried the tech 2 long range ammo yet, so no idea how far I could shoot with those.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.03.30 06:45:00 - [27] Edited by: HippoKing on 30/03/2006 06:46:23 Originally by: MercedesBenz How long would it take a torp or cruise missile to travel 250km? i think the max flight time (looking at this) on a t1 cruise missile is 20seconds. with a 10% bonus from a skill, thats 30seconds - the max cruise can take on a non-bonus ship edit: noobishness sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.03.30 06:59:00 - [28] max theoretical for a raven on a stationary target: 253,125 with t1 cruise 316,406 with javelin torps sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin
Morikai Acler	Posted - 2006.03.30 07:03:00 - [29] Yeah, believe max flight time for tech 1 cruise missile is 30seconds. Only have the missile bombardment skill at 4 and current get 28sec of flight time. With caldari bs 5 and missile projection 4 I get I think around 7875m/sec velocity. So going by my math with maxed out skills cruise missiles (tech1) can go out to 250km. Since tech2 cruise are slower, well they obviously can't go as far. With help from Sensor and tracking links I've seen Tempests or Apocs shoot out to about 400km.
Sophia Kasta	Posted - 2006.03.30 07:11:00 - [30] Really ? Im still pretty sure the longest range you can lock at FULLSTOP is 250km. Theres definitely a hardcoded value in the db somewhere.



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