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Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR.
Ragnarok.
178
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:05:00 -
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its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System
keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!
these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers
We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less
"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Searbhreathach
Vanguard Frontiers
Black Legion.
4
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:17:00 -
[2] - Quote
ohhh thats awesome use of game mechanics right there |
I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
996
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:37:00 -
[3] - Quote
Searbhreathach wrote:ohhh thats awesome use of game mechanics right there
I agree. Love it when people figure out how to use something in a way it probably wasn't intended in the first place. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
9667
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Posted - 2014.01.30 06:41:00 -
[4] - Quote
I'm a little irritated that I didn't think of that first.....
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Nariya Kentaya
Always Negative
1041
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Posted - 2014.01.30 07:02:00 -
[5] - Quote
OP has a valid point though.
clarification though, can these be anchored in a WH? or only on the nullsec side, TBH i didnt read the anchoring requirements when they posted the devblog on it because i couldnt give less of a **** living in lowsec and all.
but yeah, if it can be anchored IN wormholes, borderline exploit to circumvent intended mechanics, if only on the nullsec side, well, like it matters with local anyway. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
1955
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Posted - 2014.01.30 07:06:00 -
[6] - Quote
oh please tell me you can put them in w space |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR.
Ragnarok.
180
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Posted - 2014.01.30 07:10:00 -
[7] - Quote
yes hey can be anchored with in 5 km of a wormhole IN wormhole space. destroying 80% of wormhole pvp
"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Nimrod vanHall
Biohazard.
WINMATAR.
59
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Posted - 2014.01.30 07:14:00 -
[8] - Quote
So the ESS does the same as a scout in a cov ops 99 km of the hole and a T2 large bubbel.
that a not an exploit its an innovation. |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR.
Ragnarok.
180
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Posted - 2014.01.30 07:16:00 -
[9] - Quote
it kills wormhole pvp. and destroys the whole "unknown" aspect of wormhole space
"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
John Bosch
State War Academy
Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2014.01.30 07:54:00 -
[10] - Quote
Considering the following facts:
1. Only one ESS can be active at a time.
2. WHs have multiple statics.
3. Random entrances pop up in the form of K162s
I conclude that while using an ESS to monitor a WH is innovative, it is nowhere near as effective as you claim it to be.
(This is assuming, of course, that the dev blog I just read on the matter is accurate as of patch time.) |
Black Panthera
5
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:04:00 -
[11] - Quote
So, CCP made ESS to be 'local' channel for wormholes? ;) Btw.. is there a need to anchor ESS in WH since Sleepers don't have bounties? |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR.
Ragnarok.
183
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:13:00 -
[12] - Quote
no sleepers dont have bounties. and wormholes with one static can still be looked at with it. it doesnt belong.
"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR.
Ragnarok.
183
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:14:00 -
[13] - Quote
John Bosch wrote:Considering the following facts:
1. Only one ESS can be active at a time.
2. WHs have multiple statics.
3. Random entrances pop up in the form of K162s
I conclude that while using an ESS to monitor a WH is innovative, it is nowhere near as effective as you claim it to be.
(This is assuming, of course, that the dev blog I just read on the matter is accurate as of patch time.)
im assuming you can anchor more than one because it sayis in the attributes that you cant anchor one within 5k of another one
"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
156
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:18:00 -
[14] - Quote
dis is teh gratest news EVAR
i luv yoo SeeSeePee
Die WH skum |
John Bosch
State War Academy
Caldari State
65
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:36:00 -
[15] - Quote
Dmitry Wizard wrote:John Bosch wrote:Considering the following facts:
1. Only one ESS can be active at a time.
2. WHs have multiple statics.
3. Random entrances pop up in the form of K162s
I conclude that while using an ESS to monitor a WH is innovative, it is nowhere near as effective as you claim it to be.
(This is assuming, of course, that the dev blog I just read on the matter is accurate as of patch time.) im assuming you can anchor more than one because it sayis in the attributes that you cant anchor one within 5k of another one
Who cares if you can anchor more than one? If only one can be active at a time, then you can only cover one out of x number of holes. |
Billy McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
156
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:46:00 -
[16] - Quote
John Bosch wrote: then you can only cover one out of x number of holes..
*snerk* |
Prince Kobol
1419
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Posted - 2014.01.30 08:54:00 -
[17] - Quote
Saw PLZ instead of Please in the title and stopped right there. |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
260
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:20:00 -
[18] - Quote
John Bosch wrote:2. WHs have multiple statics. Mmmmmm.....no. Some have only one. I should know, I live in one.
Brb, have to buy me an ESS automated wormhole guard....
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Brave Collective
967
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:32:00 -
[19] - Quote
Yes this is creative gameplay, which is cool.
But its also an automated, 100% accurante and instant way of scouting a wormhole. Without mentionning the fact that it also acts as a "super bubble" with its EHP.
So definitely, put a minimum WH anchor distance.
Signature Tanking - Best Tanking. |
Yuber Eightfold
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:38:00 -
[20] - Quote
John Bosch wrote:Dmitry Wizard wrote:John Bosch wrote:Considering the following facts:
1. Only one ESS can be active at a time.
2. WHs have multiple statics.
3. Random entrances pop up in the form of K162s
I conclude that while using an ESS to monitor a WH is innovative, it is nowhere near as effective as you claim it to be.
(This is assuming, of course, that the dev blog I just read on the matter is accurate as of patch time.) im assuming you can anchor more than one because it sayis in the attributes that you cant anchor one within 5k of another one Tinkered with this on Singularity. You can only deploy one ESS at a time.
is that limited to one per system or one per pilot?
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
168
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:43:00 -
[21] - Quote
I apologies for believing the ESS was a completely useless piece of crap with no sensible use. Credit to whichever smart bastard figured this one out. |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution
Nullsec Ninjas
233
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:48:00 -
[22] - Quote
There was a 100 page treadnaught where we all tried to tell CCP that this ESS thing was stupid, unwanted and just plain broken. Of couse they didn't listen.
Don't Panic.
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OldWolf69
IR0N.
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
130
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Posted - 2014.01.30 09:49:00 -
[23] - Quote
Dmitry Wizard wrote:its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System
keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!
these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers
We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less
So we should presume you cannot get PvP in W space if you can't catch unsuspecting people?
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
2947
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Posted - 2014.01.30 10:02:00 -
[24] - Quote
Just think of it as the horn of the apocalypse heralding your arrival. Let the locals hear the sound of their impending doom!
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Medalyn Isis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2014.01.30 11:56:00 -
[25] - Quote
Dmitry Wizard wrote:its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
At least the ESS has 'one' use now. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
401
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Posted - 2014.01.30 12:05:00 -
[26] - Quote
Hell! Just shoot it you whiny little *****!
EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |
Mag's
the united
SCUM.
16623
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Posted - 2014.01.30 14:51:00 -
[27] - Quote
This is absolutely hilarious.
Nice work SoniClover.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution
Nullsec Ninjas
234
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:03:00 -
[28] - Quote
Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Hell! Just shoot it you whiny little *****!
7-stone internet tough-guy detected.
Don't Panic.
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Notorious Fellon
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
162
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:04:00 -
[29] - Quote
It can be used to your advantage in low class WH's.
Just warp to it and set it off every 15 mins or so. It forces the locals to flee to their POS and remain there. Meanwhile they are batphoning their hermit friends.
Do it in the middle of the "night" for their primary timezone.
Makes a great trolling method. Use multiple accounts. It will go off over and over making them think you are moving in or staging an invasion. Then shoot down the stupid thing after you had some fun with it.
Once you scout a few pilots logging into their POS, leave. |
Omanth Bathana
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
127
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:51:00 -
[30] - Quote
Hey! It's almost like nearly every large null-sec alliance overwhelmingly said the ESS was pointless, poorly designed, and would hurt the gameplay it proposed to encourage. Oh wait, that did happen, and all we got was a trivial change to the bullshit mechanics that plagued it.
Mad props to whoever figured out the anchoring distance thing though. |
Berluth Luthian
Meltdown.
176
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Posted - 2014.01.30 15:56:00 -
[31] - Quote
So if it can only have one per system, then it's not like you can cover every wormhole in your system. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
370
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:00:00 -
[32] - Quote
That's a pretty funny bug. |
Kaeda Maxwell
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
268
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:02:00 -
[33] - Quote
Dmitry Wizard wrote:its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System
keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!
these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers
We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less
Look on the bright side!
Now you can PvP in something without a cloak! Isn't that liberating?  |
Kaeda Maxwell
Calamitous-Intent
Feign Disorder
268
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:04:00 -
[34] - Quote
Dammit silly forum software. Double Post. |
Tsalaroth
BRG Corp
Ocularis Inferno
23
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:07:00 -
[35] - Quote
Dmitry Wizard wrote:its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System
keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!
these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers
We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less
something something, definition of surveillance. |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
3383
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:18:00 -
[36] - Quote
This is wonderful. I hope we have many years of whine threads just like the margin trading skill!
Now all we need is to allow these in highsec. I would be happy to fund the placement of them in all the popular highsec mission hubs. Just remember guys, gank their blinged mission ships after they have worked a few hours to pile isk into the pool.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Andrea Keuvo
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
246
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:21:00 -
[37] - Quote
Nice work on this CCP, nerf nullsec ratting and buff WH space with the same mod. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1853
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:21:00 -
[38] - Quote
For something to cause this much gnashing of teeth and wormholer tears makes me believe it's an awesome thing!!
Big ups, CCP!!
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
409
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:22:00 -
[39] - Quote
Speedkermit Damo wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:Hell! Just shoot it you whiny little *****! 7-stone internet tough-guy detected. ... said by another whiny little *****. ^^
EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
4508
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:23:00 -
[40] - Quote
Like every other bit of truly emergent gameplay, CCP will probably nerf this ingenious use of the ESS into the ground. Pity as this use makes the ESS actually worth something. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
409
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Posted - 2014.01.30 16:23:00 -
[41] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Like every other bit of truly emergent gameplay, CCP will probably nerf this ingenious use of the ESS into the ground. Pity as this use makes the ESS actually worth something.
We should rally so they keep it as it is.
EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |
Dreiden Kisada
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:09:00 -
[42] - Quote
Wormholers complaining about innovative uses for things? I'm suprised! |
Kalb777
The Scope
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:18:00 -
[43] - Quote
Dmitry Wizard wrote:its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System
keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!
these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers
We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less
Man now every wormhole corp will anchor 1 lol.
Has its use untill fixed.
Man do i hate Goons sooooo f*cking much!!! |
Implying Implications
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
416
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:20:00 -
[44] - Quote
Thank you, Sonic Lover
Signed, Implying |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
425
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:27:00 -
[45] - Quote
Points for creativity to whomever came up with this. But yeah, should probably be fixed 
My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |
Glasgow Dunlop
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
125
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Posted - 2014.01.30 17:41:00 -
[46] - Quote
Just seen CCP Paradox Post about LP, and yet not on this one . . .
twitter: @glasgowdunlop-á
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Jim399
Red.Dot
THE H0NEYBADGER
0
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:15:00 -
[47] - Quote
Yes, Ragnarok needs to be able to sneak their blobs into wormholes so they can 30v1 people.  |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:26:00 -
[48] - Quote
you clever cookie you
Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR.
Ragnarok.
210
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:27:00 -
[49] - Quote
Jim399 wrote:Yes, Ragnarok needs to be able to sneak their blobs into wormholes so they can 30v1 people.
Confirming this. and we only fought you with like 15 dudes..... You're in C6 space now.... time to pull up your big boy panties
"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Glasgow Dunlop
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
125
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:28:00 -
[50] - Quote
one of the main joys of WH space is no local, this removes it.
twitter: @glasgowdunlop-á
GLASGOW MEET PAGE-á
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Kelven Xyn
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:31:00 -
[51] - Quote
Works as indeed.
And i thought CCP brings out only Crap Mobile Structs.
This one is the best so far. |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
9109
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:39:00 -
[52] - Quote
Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie
http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Searbhreathach
Vanguard Frontiers
Black Legion.
20
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:41:00 -
[53] - Quote
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Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR.
Ragnarok.
211
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Posted - 2014.01.30 18:42:00 -
[54] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
THANK YOU CCP FOZZIE!!!!!!!!!!!
"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Glasgow Dunlop
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
125
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:00:00 -
[55] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
He loves us all
Wormhole, best hole 
twitter: @glasgowdunlop-á
GLASGOW MEET PAGE-á
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Kelven Xyn
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:07:00 -
[56] - Quote
Glasgow Dunlop wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. He loves us all
IFs that so hell give us back old Omnis. |
Bjurn Akely
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
29
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:33:00 -
[57] - Quote
Kaeda Maxwell wrote:Dmitry Wizard wrote:its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System
keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!
these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers
We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less Look on the bright side! Now you can PvP in something without a cloak! Isn't that liberating?
I seem to remember you not wanting to be in W-space because it was another game style than the one you prefer. Must everything you do not like have to be transformed into something you like? Is space not big enough for difference? Different so that people like me can be in the kind of environment they do like.
Actually, this feature might be the last straw for me. |
John Bosch
State War Academy
Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:35:00 -
[58] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! |
Bjurn Akely
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
29
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:35:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
370
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:46:00 -
[60] - Quote
Bjurn Akely wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through.
Dude.
It was pretty obviously a bug, lol. |
DaReaper
Net 7
The Last Brigade
104
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:49:00 -
[61] - Quote
damn well I think i'll get an ess and utilize it till the bug is fixed lol.
and why did I not think to do this, that's a great use of the ess. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific
Initiative Mercenaries
4513
|
Posted - 2014.01.30 19:54:00 -
[62] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
Called it.
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Antihrist Pripravnik
Direwolf-Rayet
skylian Verge
174
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Posted - 2014.01.30 19:59:00 -
[63] - Quote
DaReaper wrote:damn well I think i'll get an ess and utilize it till the bug is fixed lol.
and why did I not think to do this, that's a great use of the ess.
Using a known bug to gain advantage is called "exploit" ... just sayin'
CCP Ytterbium: Yarrblblbgrlblbgrlblblblbblbgrlblblbgrblblyarrrrdrooooooolonthekeyboardlikealunatic   |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
2229
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:00:00 -
[64] - Quote
All I can say is lol.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Utremi Fasolasi
La Dolce Vita
359
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:05:00 -
[65] - Quote
Pinky Hops wrote:Bjurn Akely wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through. Dude. It was pretty obviously a bug, lol.
Looked like Emergent Gameplay to me. |
Bjurn Akely
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
29
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:07:00 -
[66] - Quote
Pinky Hops wrote:Bjurn Akely wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through. Dude. It was pretty obviously a bug, lol.
After the changes the Discovery scanner brought (new sigs automatically showing up on the Probe Scanner) this actually did not seem that much of a bug. I hoped it was, but trust is a thing earned.... I'll leave it at that. |
DaReaper
Net 7
The Last Brigade
105
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:49:00 -
[67] - Quote
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:DaReaper wrote:damn well I think i'll get an ess and utilize it till the bug is fixed lol.
and why did I not think to do this, that's a great use of the ess. Using a known bug to gain advantage is called "exploit" ... just sayin'
I know, I just wish I had known sooner. I might buy a few just so I can mess with null bears lol |
Qual
Infinity Engine
Sleeping Dragons
49
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Posted - 2014.01.30 20:49:00 -
[68] - Quote
Kelven Xyn wrote:
IFs that so hell give us back old Omnis.
Again I prefer to go even further back. Back to when NOTHING could scan a full system. I can live without race specific scan probes though. May they rest in peace forever...
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Desmond Strickler
End-of-Line
288
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Posted - 2014.01.30 21:16:00 -
[69] - Quote
ITT: People who have never searched for pvp in wormholes.
The Black Prince of Wormholes-á
Part-Time Moon Bear and Full-Time Black Guy
"My other dread is a Swaglafar" |
Jessica Danikov
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
276
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:08:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
Was it a bug or an omission? A bug being 'We didn't intend it to be that way, but we made a mistake', an omission being 'We didn't think of that, but now that you mention it, it obviously shouldn't be that way, so we'll fix it'.
A bug is... well, par for the course (grr, CCP).
An omission? Well, I guess we all missed it, the ESS was made available on SiSi for testing and publicly discussed by the community. As much as I'd like to crucify everyone who touched it if that were the case, that really is pretty much everyone. |
McBorsk
Multispace Technologies Inc
Yulai Federation
30
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:29:00 -
[71] - Quote
Dmitry Wizard wrote:its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System
keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!
these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers
We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less
Better yet. Keep it out of eve altogether. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
8876
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:35:00 -
[72] - Quote
Does the fix involve wiping the ESS from the database?
Cause otherwise I don't consider it fixed.
My EVE Videos
59-15 |
ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
33
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:40:00 -
[73] - Quote
Jessica Danikov wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Was it a bug or an omission? A bug being 'We didn't intend it to be that way, but we made a mistake', an omission being 'We didn't think of that, but now that you mention it, it obviously shouldn't be that way, so we'll fix it'. A bug is... well, par for the course (grr, CCP). An omission? Well, I guess we all missed it, the ESS was made available on SiSi for testing and publicly discussed by the community. As much as I'd like to crucify everyone who touched it if that were the case, that really is pretty much everyone.
It doesn't help that POSes (at least ours) aren't copied to Sisi (strangely enough, one 'giant'-ish container was copied once. Which makes it quite 'uncomfortable' to do decent w-space testing. Unless you put a lot of effort into it. |
ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii
The 20 Minuters
33
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:41:00 -
[74] - Quote
McBorsk wrote:Dmitry Wizard wrote:its stated in the attributes that it has to be activated at least 3000 km from a gate or station... so why does this thing have the abillity to be anchored 5 km from a wormhole? not only does it have a warp distruption bubble on it (i can deal with that) but it broadcasts IN LOCAL who has jumped into the wormhole its anchored on
EVE System > Dmitry Wizard is now in proximity of the Encounter Surveilance System
keep this crap in null and get it off my wormholes!
these kinds of things make me think CCP hates us wormholers
We need MORE pvp in wormholes.... not less Better yet. Keep it out of eve altogether.
Let that be the hotfix! Then figure out over forever how to actually fix it! |
Thead Enco
Killing is Business
Get Off My Lawn
87
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:54:00 -
[75] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
"Bug" or forgot to add a value for wormholes......
"Any man who must say 'I am the king' is no true king."
Tywin Lannister-á |
45thtiger 0109
AL3XAND3R.
39
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Posted - 2014.01.30 22:55:00 -
[76] - Quote
Pinky Hops wrote:Bjurn Akely wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through. Dude. It was pretty obviously a bug, lol.
What you mean to say a bug hole not a wormhole bahahahaahah
I am not a CCP employee-ájust having a input in the EvE forum
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Eva Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
0
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:08:00 -
[77] - Quote
Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:Bjurn Akely wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through. Dude. It was pretty obviously a bug, lol. Looked like Emergent Gameplay to me.
Yeah - I was briefly thrilled by the development. Granted, the ESS wasn't intended to perform the role, but providing an additional, destructible, way for a wormhole corporation to "claim" its territory while helping to secure the space sure seemed like the "step toward colonization" that deployables are advertised as.
Anyway, I'm now down 25 million ISK, but it was fun for a few minutes to have a (destructible) running log of entries and exits through my wormhole. It's too bad that the "bug" was eliminated before its implications could be fully discussed. |
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
447
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:30:00 -
[78] - Quote
Eva Ersatz wrote:Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:Bjurn Akely wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Ahh. SO EFFIN RELIEVED. Thanks for that Fozzie, now go smack the responsible people on the head for letting that bug through. Dude. It was pretty obviously a bug, lol. Looked like Emergent Gameplay to me. Yeah - I was briefly thrilled by the development. Granted, the ESS wasn't intended to perform the role, but providing an additional, destructible, way for a wormhole corporation to "claim" its territory while helping to secure the space sure seemed like the "step toward colonization" that deployables are advertised as. Anyway, I'm now down 25 million ISK, but it was fun for a few minutes to have a running log of entries and exits through my wormhole. It's too bad that the "bug" was eliminated before its implications could be fully discussed.
Maybe this episode will provide the inspiration for a deployable designed for the purpose. With some tweaking, some kind of intel gathering tool might make things interesting.
EVE Online: The Text Adventure --- GameSkinny Correspondent --- Freebooted Blogger |
Moridin Mandarb
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
9
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:39:00 -
[79] - Quote
So let me get this straight - Sleepers don't have bounties. Which means that the drawback of the ESS, the ratting penalty doesn't apply. Yet with one active, you get LP for each kill.
Am I missing something here? |
Eva Ersatz
New Eden Security Services
0
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:41:00 -
[80] - Quote
Quote:
Maybe this episode will provide the inspiration for a deployable designed for the purpose. With some tweaking, some kind of intel gathering tool might make things interesting.
Like a deployable surveillance system that could inform the user of encounters? Kidding aside, that would be cool. |
Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA
372
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:42:00 -
[81] - Quote
Moridin Mandarb wrote:So let me get this straight - Sleepers don't have bounties. Which means that the drawback of the ESS, the ratting penalty doesn't apply. Yet with one active, you get LP for each kill.
Am I missing something here?
Uh, yes.
Because the amount of LP it gives is proportional to the amount of ISK it gives. So if it isn't giving ISK, it isn't giving LP.
Meaning the whole thing was just a bug that allowed you to see people entering a wormhole. |
Moridin Mandarb
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
9
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Posted - 2014.01.30 23:49:00 -
[82] - Quote
Pinky Hops wrote:Moridin Mandarb wrote:So let me get this straight - Sleepers don't have bounties. Which means that the drawback of the ESS, the ratting penalty doesn't apply. Yet with one active, you get LP for each kill.
Am I missing something here? Uh, yes. Because the amount of LP it gives is proportional to the amount of ISK it gives. So if it isn't giving ISK, it isn't giving LP. Meaning the whole thing was just a bug that allowed you to see people entering a wormhole.
Ah. Gotcha.
I dunno - I kinda like the idea of "an intruder has entered the system" deployable in WH space. But that's just me. |
Huttan Funaila
Terminal Radioactivity
369
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Posted - 2014.01.31 00:51:00 -
[83] - Quote
Speedkermit Damo wrote:There was a 100 page treadnaught where we all tried to tell CCP that this ESS thing was stupid, unwanted and just plain broken. Of couse they didn't listen.
That sort of complaining just proved to the folks in Reykjavik that they were on the right track for harvesting all those tears. |
Dmitry Wizard
THE AESIR.
Ragnarok.
229
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Posted - 2014.01.31 00:58:00 -
[84] - Quote
Moridin Mandarb wrote:Pinky Hops wrote:Moridin Mandarb wrote:So let me get this straight - Sleepers don't have bounties. Which means that the drawback of the ESS, the ratting penalty doesn't apply. Yet with one active, you get LP for each kill.
Am I missing something here? Uh, yes. Because the amount of LP it gives is proportional to the amount of ISK it gives. So if it isn't giving ISK, it isn't giving LP. Meaning the whole thing was just a bug that allowed you to see people entering a wormhole. Ah. Gotcha. I dunno - I kinda like the idea of "an intruder has entered the system" deployable in WH space. But that's just me.
thats because youre a null bear. the wormhole community doesnt need/want this
"Wormhole corps are like a bunch of homeschooled kids" |
Phoenix Jones
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
412
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Posted - 2014.01.31 03:49:00 -
[85] - Quote
Damn first addition to wormhole content and it's getting removed :-(
Still good decision, would have made this stuff a little too easy
Stabbers are totally broken
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15116553
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Seraph Essael
Devils Diciples
League of Infamy
416
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Posted - 2014.01.31 04:05:00 -
[86] - Quote
45thtiger 0109 wrote:What you mean to say a bug hole not a wormhole bahahahaahah
Yeeeeeeaaaaaah!
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person." |
Ruub Kers
Benzene Inc.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2014.01.31 10:10:00 -
[87] - Quote
Lol well I like it. |
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
449
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:43:00 -
[88] - Quote
Eva Ersatz wrote:Quote:
Maybe this episode will provide the inspiration for a deployable designed for the purpose. With some tweaking, some kind of intel gathering tool might make things interesting.
Like a deployable surveillance system that could inform the user of encounters? Kidding aside, that would be cool.
Heh, I see your point. The most accurate name has already been taken. But yeah, my interpretation was that the ESS was always intended as a more PvE-centric deployable.
EVE's backstory certainly supports 'tripwire' technology though and was a key part of the Gallente-Caldari escalation as I recall. It would be a comfortable fit in both gameplay and storyline terms if done correctly.
EVE Online: The Text Adventure --- GameSkinny Correspondent --- Freebooted Blogger |
Mag's
the united
SCUM.
16627
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:42:00 -
[89] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated. Damn it. Someone finds a use for this thing and you go and nerf it.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Aiwha
Trans Secunda
Nulli Secunda
705
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:53:00 -
[90] - Quote
Well then. I gotta go buy some ****.
We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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James Arget
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
269
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:05:00 -
[91] - Quote
After talking with CCP Soniclover, the ESS will be unusable in wspace come Monday.
CSM 8 Representative
http://csm8.org |
Mag's
the united
SCUM.
16628
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:06:00 -
[92] - Quote
James Arget wrote:After talking with CCP Soniclover, the ESS will be unusable in wspace come Monday. So no chance of simply removing the bad idea?
Yea, thought so.
Destination SkillQueue:-
It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Combat Wombatz
Martyr's Vengence
Nulli Secunda
22
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:09:00 -
[93] - Quote
CCP Fozzie wrote:Hey guys, just to let you know this is a bug and the team has a fix in the pipeline to be deployed as soon as possible.
We'll keep you updated.
Why? It actually made the ESS useful. |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
122
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:22:00 -
[94] - Quote
James Arget wrote:After talking with CCP Soniclover, the ESS will be unusable in wspace come Monday.
I'm not a nullbear or anything, but I can agree with everyone that claims the ESS is a bad idea. I like the little gimmicks CCP is releasing, but this one is bad overall. I'm willing to overlook the d-scan inhibitor because I can see myself having fun with it in dark, twisted ways.
This is as nice as I get.
Best quote ever
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
matarkhan
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Insidious Empire
48
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:52:00 -
[95] - Quote
Hey, look, a perfect example of why CCP needs to make it easier to test wormhole things on SISI.
This has been a problem since wormholes were added to EVE all those years ago -- it's nigh on impossible to get characters into wormholes unless they were in them when the last migration was made.
99% of pilots don't use SISI, so they don't try to probe their way out of space, so wormhole entrances are impossible to find.
CCP, PLEASE give us some sort of way to find wormholes on SIS so that we can avoid situations like this. |
Richouse Gallentry
Blue-Fire
6
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Posted - 2014.01.31 22:49:00 -
[96] - Quote
Dmitry Wizard wrote:no sleepers dont have bounties. and wormholes with one static can still be looked at with it. it doesnt belong.
Yes, most wormholes have one static.
But honestly, most WHs have multiple holes that are drilled in and out if em at any given time. and it's impossible for a WH to place one of these things on a hole that I just drilled into.
Which just so happens to be where most of the WH PvP comes from...
1) Drill into a hole... notice wrecks on d-scan. And whola! A gank scenario is created! Just as always!
2) When the gank has been performed, the WH residents either re-ship and partake in honorable PvP, hide in their POS, or log off. Just as always.
3) ESS in wormholes allows those that live in a WH to watch 1 hole without a scout on it. That's it! It doesn't prevent PvP, cause most folks that notice someone entering system, are more likely to hop into a ship and greet them, rather than continue with their semi-AFK activities. |
Richouse Gallentry
Blue-Fire
6
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:00:00 -
[97] - Quote
James Arget wrote:After talking with CCP Soniclover, the ESS will be unusable in wspace come Monday.
I think you should put the brakes on the idea of removing the effect of ESS in wormholes. Since the effect of ESS is nothing close to as is feared by wormhole residents, why remove its usefulness from wormhole space?! CCP can always make a change or a tweak to it when and if it becomes necessary. However, if you nerf every tool CCP creates for EVE to include a "not in wormholes clause", CCP may just have to spin wormholes off into it's own game!
When this happens, I call "naming rights" dibs on it!
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