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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.31 13:44:00 -
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Darkblad wrote:CCP Lebowski wrote:contains, for example, a complete new path finder. That would be path around obstacles (stations and the like) right? Or would it mean you pimped the tsp solution, meaning "optimize route" doesn't freeze the client on waypointy routes? The pathfinder is the system that plots routes (Safest, Shortest, Less secure and everything in between) after a destination is set. This migration of data has meant that this system had to be completely rewritten.
Meadowvale wrote:Singularity - EVE-FEATURE-FSD-UNIVERSE - 8.42.710206
testing Archon with 3 x Done Link Augmentor II (DLA II) modules plus 2 x Omnidirectional Tracking Link II (OTL II), 2 x Drone Damage Amplifier II and 2 x Drone Navigation Computer II modules fitted. Show info from market for Warden II shows Optimal Range 60km; Tracking 0.012 rad/sec; Damage Modifier 1.44x. After ship launched with active OTL II mods, Show Info for Warden II in drone bay displays Optimal Range 75km, Tracking unchanged and Damage Modifier 5.3131. When drones deployed with active OTL II mods, Show Info displays Optimal Range 60km, Tracking 0.012, Damage Modifier 1.44x. Optimal and Damage Modifier is updated only when drone located in drone bay. Tracking is not updated even though 2 x OTL II mods are active or active with Tracking Speed scripts. Other drones also do not update Optimal, Tracking and Damage Modifier details.
Unable to bug report - error message displayed when submitting bug report "Unexpected error from the bugs service". Bug report saved to disk within game - will attempt to send at later time/date. Thanks for the info on this, its already an issue that we're aware of. FYI its actually just the show info windows that aren't updating correctly, the actually stats of the drones are correct.
Duncan Anthrax wrote:Bug Report
Open the assets dialog and select a system, right click and choose set destination. A message appears "Can't set waypoint - must be planet, constellation, or region."
Observed on two accounts in different solar system but both system were null sec. Thanks for the bug report, we're already tracking this issue and working on a fix for it.
I've updated the original post with currently known issues. CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
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CCP Nobody
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:01:00 -
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Althalus Stenory wrote:If I understand the data migration goal, you are taking data from database to some json (or any format, does not matter) which will be included into your source control system.
So... i'm now wondering, since you say "it will be re-injected with updates into the database", will the static data change ? Will we be still able to just use those data as we used to ? Or will we have to change all queries ?
You also enumerate some data that are concerned by this migration, but is this the exhaustive list ? What CCP Lebowski was refering to was that the changes made to the universe static data (which has now been ported to files) will have to be re-injected into the database, that the server is running on, so the sql backend still works as intended.
This big change will have an impact on the 3rd party devs, due to some static data export (SDE) changes. The new static data export for the universe data will be exported to an sqlite file. The structure of the tables exported to this file will remain the same.
However if you don't have time to change your tools (if you need to make some big changes) there is no rush on doing that, because the actual data in the tables will not have changed between this SDE and the previous SDE .
There will be a dev blog closer to release that will give more detail on this.
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Frank Pannon
Fallen Supremacy SCUM.
101
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Posted - 2014.01.31 14:21:00 -
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Duncan Anthrax wrote:Bug Report
Open the assets dialog and select a system, right click and choose set destination. A message appears "Can't set waypoint - must be planet, constellation, or region."
Observed on two accounts in different solar system but both system were null sec.
This is also true from the market window. I can not set destination from there, based on the same error message. |

pmchem
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:06:00 -
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CCP Nobody wrote: This big change will have an impact on the 3rd party devs, due to some static data export (SDE) changes. The new static data export for the universe data will be exported to an sqlite file. The structure of the tables exported to this file will remain the same.
millions of third party devs cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
After having perfected GARPA's import of the MSSQL SDE over the years, I can only imagine what havoc CCP switching to a whole new format (and then eventually adding stargates to a dynamic galaxy or whatever) will wreak on us guys trying to provide navigation and economic tools. Years ago there was talk of #devfleet and a whole new developer program -- never materialized. CCP is making big changes without supporting the devs. Hanging out on IRC with a few people doesn't count. After 10 years, I'm sure you're all keenly aware how much the game's continued success actually relies on third party devs. How about getting a program in place with a CSM-like NDA where devs can preview changes and actually get their tools prepped out BEFORE the major changes drop on sisi (or on TQ, because that's when SDEs are released). We have years of work-hours invested in certain things. I know Wollari was asking about this type of possibility at Fanfest 2013 (because I was standing right next to him at a pubcrawl when he brought it up). @pmchem on twitter || GARPA || Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
430
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Posted - 2014.01.31 15:22:00 -
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Udonor wrote:Alyssa Wyatt wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote: [bookmark] <'Tactical 22222222222555555555km above'> at [gate] offset_by [0km, 22222222222555555555km, 0km]
[corp chat] > Betting ten bucks you can't scan my freighter down!
Would've been a grand exploit, don't you think?
Tbf, this would be laughably easy to prevent In fact, didn't CCP do something to prevent deep deep safes from being created quite some time ago? Yup 4-5 years ago they revised rules to prohibit travelling more than 20AU outside orbit of outer planets. Don't remember how far off solar plane you can get though maybe its a sphere set by that outer planet orbital radius + 20AU." nope, i still have some BM way out of that limit, still able to warp to them.
never looked about creating them tho, i just inherited thoses so.... |
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CCP Atropos
C C P C C P Alliance
409

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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:30:00 -
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Alexis Antollare wrote:I am not able to download the mac patch. I keep getting exception reports.
Help? Can you provide us with the exceptions? Pastebin is good for dumping the EVE Launcher logs to. EVE Launcher - Team Special Circumstances |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2630
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:32:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Alexis Antollare wrote:I am not able to download the mac patch. I keep getting exception reports.
Help? Can you provide us with the exceptions? Pastebin is good for dumping the EVE Launcher logs to. I had this issue too. It turned out I was impacting my bandwidth with other activities: Playing Eve, watching the live stream, etc. I waited until I needed my internet connection for nothing else other then a patch download, and it worked. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
57

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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:21:00 -
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pmchem wrote:millions of third party devs cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
After having perfected GARPA's import of the MSSQL SDE over the years, I can only imagine what havoc CCP switching to a whole new format (and then eventually adding stargates to a dynamic galaxy or whatever) will wreak on us guys trying to provide navigation and economic tools. Years ago there was talk of #devfleet and a whole new developer program -- never materialized. CCP is making big changes without supporting the devs. Hanging out on IRC with a few people doesn't count. After 10 years, I'm sure you're all keenly aware how much the game's continued success actually relies on third party devs. How about getting a program in place with a CSM-like NDA where devs can preview changes and actually get their tools prepped out BEFORE the major changes drop on sisi (or on TQ, because that's when SDEs are released). We have years of work-hours invested in certain things. I know Wollari was asking about this type of possibility at Fanfest 2013 (because I was standing right next to him at a pubcrawl when he brought it up). I think you aren't taking into account quite a key point in CCP Nobody's post, namely:
CCP Nobody wrote:However if you don't have time to change your tools (if you need to make some big changes) there is no rush on doing that, because the actual data in the tables will not have changed between this SDE and the previous SDE .
Because at this time nothing will be changing in the information provided in the SDE, it was not a priority for us to bring third party developers on board with the change at an earlier date. Instead we've been focused on ensuring this change is as bug free as possible, which is why we are only recently finalizing the details of the SDE.
Regardless, as CCP Nobody said, we will be providing a dev blog covering this change as soon as possible, and are doing everything we can to ensure that the effects of this change are as minor as possible.
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/ccp_lebowski |
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Seth Darkness
Friends of Honor
3
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:04:00 -
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So from what I'm reading here, moving data from main DB to individual file means that there will be less lag? |

pmchem
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
687
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Posted - 2014.01.31 20:49:00 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:I think you aren't taking into account quite a key point in CCP Nobody's post, namely: CCP Nobody wrote:However if you don't have time to change your tools (if you need to make some big changes) there is no rush on doing that, because the actual data in the tables will not have changed between this SDE and the previous SDE .
Because at this time nothing will be changing in the information provided in the SDE, it was not a priority for us to bring third party developers on board with the change at an earlier date. Instead we've been focused on ensuring this change is as bug free as possible, which is why we are only recently finalizing the details of the SDE.
I get that many people love SQLite and dislike being provided a MSSQL dump. ok, fine. That's why players post conversions to whatever db fotm. But considering that there are issues with virtually every release's SDE [1] it would be nice if CCP ever followed through on a real third party dev program where we can get things -- even basic things like db dumps with public knowledge -- in advance of TQ release. Even though you guys aren't planning on changing any data, forgive us for being skeptical of that going through pain-free. There were a lot of promises about improved dev support by Andi at Fanfest 2k13 which were never followed through on.
[1]: here are some issues people had JUST with rubicon's, for the non-ccp reading this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3892346#post3892346 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3896668#post3896668 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3897813#post3897813 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3904861#post3904861 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3941847#post3941847 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4053313#post4053313 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4053313#post4053313 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4152999#post4152999 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4166988#post4166988 @pmchem on twitter || GARPA || Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
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Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
420
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Posted - 2014.01.31 23:57:00 -
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Qual wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:Can you pls explain me what is this change exactly for because i dind't understand it well? Whats things it will allow CCP to make. It will aloow CCP to easier edit Universe Data, such as adding star systems or altering/adding positions of existing star systems items such as stations, stargates and even planets. I imagine this is the first step towards a more dynamic Universe where things can change more often and esier than they do now.
How about orbiting celestial bodies? |

Rauour Engil
Rabies Inc.
2
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Posted - 2014.02.01 01:05:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:Morwen Lagann wrote:We used to be able to do this by editing the raw coordinates of bookmarks within the client, iirc You do not recall correctly, this was never possible. The XYZ-coordinates were only displayed in the 'Create bookmark' and 'Edit bookmark' dialogues but you could not in any way edit the coordinates. Didn't someone use code injection and a bunch of people get banned? This would be back when LV, MC, ISS, BOB were down south.
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fattox4189
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2014.02.01 11:31:00 -
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So to ask a dumb question, will this mean that this testing involves mirroring TQ? Or will it be unmirrored until further notice? |

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
690
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:57:00 -
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fattox4189 wrote:So to ask a dumb question, will this mean that this testing involves mirroring TQ? Or will it be unmirrored until further notice? The devs want to test something most likely the process they will use to update the DB when they move the change to TQ needs a new test to check some process optimizations.
Per the other threads some time nexts week they will mirror TQ and test their p[rocess as described below. Best guess Wednesday per the devs after the Mass test confirms the DB changes are good.
First step they will make a mirror copy of TQ. This does not effect TQ except for the added time to process the copy at down time. I think.
Sisi keeps running and gets updated according to what the devs want to test using the DB it currently uses.
They then process the mirrored copy so it fits the rules for Sisi: all stations, POS and sov structures are deleted and the market is changed plus all the testing system stuff is added. This takes dev time so CCP Habakuk has to schedule some time in his day to execute and validate the changes.
The the server admins load the DB on to the Sisi server and then runs the patch that updates the TQ data to the version the devs want on Sisi. This tests the process TQ will go through when the change is added. The last time Sisi got updated with this change it took about a 3 hour down time to run the update script on the DB. This validates the time required so CCP can inform the TQ players how long the down time will be.
We dont like CCP getting there estimations wrong
Sisi wont get another mirror from TQ until the devs need one. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe. |

Alexis Antollare
The Demon Gate Ronin Oni Alliance
5
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Posted - 2014.02.01 16:24:00 -
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CCP Atropos wrote:Alexis Antollare wrote:I am not able to download the mac patch. I keep getting exception reports.
Help? Can you provide us with the exceptions? Pastebin is good for dumping the EVE Launcher logs to.
Wish I could. It outputs a large text file that I can not copy/paste. That said, I'm trying to re-create the incident again so at the very least I can screen shot the section of the code that it scrolls to, and it seems to be working fine now....
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
690
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Posted - 2014.02.01 18:20:00 -
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Alexis Antollare wrote:CCP Atropos wrote:Alexis Antollare wrote:I am not able to download the mac patch. I keep getting exception reports.
Help? Can you provide us with the exceptions? Pastebin is good for dumping the EVE Launcher logs to. Wish I could. It outputs a large text file that I can not copy/paste. That said, I'm trying to re-create the incident again so at the very least I can screen shot the section of the code that it scrolls to, and it seems to be working fine now.... you can save the file to the community page bug report page
If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe. |

Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1212
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Posted - 2014.02.03 09:03:00 -
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All that smells to me like a long term plan to add more systems in faster interactions... ;) "If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |

Nagarythe Tinurandir
Tormented of Destiny German - Wings
178
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Posted - 2014.02.04 13:50:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:All that smells to me like a long term plan to add more systems in faster interactions... ;)
or spaces in the intersolar gaps. how about some rouge planets?
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
690
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Posted - 2014.02.07 13:17:00 -
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Update to when this will go to TQ.
Its been on Sisi for 2 weeks  If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe. |

Pensive Olerie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.04 12:52:00 -
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CCP Lebowski wrote:Greetings Capsuleers!
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The universe data contains, for example: the positions for all systems, planets, gates, asteroid belts and the asteroids in these belts.
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how about stations? I'm not seeing, e.g,
QYZM-W V - Carebear Rehab Center ( Minmatar Service Outpost )
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Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
692
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Posted - 2014.03.04 21:08:00 -
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Pensive Olerie wrote:CCP Lebowski wrote:Greetings Capsuleers!
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The universe data contains, for example: the positions for all systems, planets, gates, asteroid belts and the asteroids in these belts.
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how about stations? I'm not seeing, e.g, QYZM-W V - Carebear Rehab Center ( Minmatar Service Outpost )
Bug reporting it will put the issue in front of a dev faster. If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide
See you around the universe. |

Pensive Olerie
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.03.05 02:27:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Pensive Olerie wrote:CCP Lebowski wrote:Greetings Capsuleers!
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The universe data contains, for example: the positions for all systems, planets, gates, asteroid belts and the asteroids in these belts.
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how about stations? I'm not seeing, e.g, QYZM-W V - Carebear Rehab Center ( Minmatar Service Outpost ) Bug reporting it will put the issue in front of a dev faster.
Do you think it's a bug? |
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