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Tarpedo
Incursionista
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Posted - 2014.01.31 10:58:00 -
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Computer screen. TV is obsolete technology. |
Doc Severide
State War Academy
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:20:00 -
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Tarpedo wrote:Computer screen. TV is obsolete technology.
Right... You don't really have a clue about new TV Tech do you?
People who complain you are "showing off" are simply jealous their wives rule their wallets... |
Doc Severide
State War Academy
Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:26:00 -
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Locke DieDrake wrote:
I use proper high resolution displays for EVE but I know some people that use TVs like you do. I can't handle 1080p resolution, since I run at 2x that number on the least capable of my displays.
To each their own.
Yes 1080P sucks. I'm running multiple 30 Inch Monitors at 2560 x 1600. EVE looks spectacular. Gonna go 4K but I want to wait until there is a good monitor with only 1 panel. The new ASUS is very nice but has 2 panels side by side. They "say" that doesn't make a difference but for $3500 bucks I wanna be sure... |
Triss S'Jet
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:27:00 -
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Usually computer screen, sometimes I use a projector when I want to look at nebulas, but it's not very convenient during longer sessions. |
Pharoah Strange
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:36:00 -
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Recliner, cordless mouse, 55" Telly and a bottle of Gentleman J. Can't afford first-class unless I'm flying EVE. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
424
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:38:00 -
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Adrie Atticus wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:flakeys wrote:Angelica Dreamstar wrote:I thought more people used LED beamers by now... Actually did do that a few times but it's just prettier on a nice bigscreen or even a 17" laptop then using the beamer.At a certain point it can get 'too big'  That never happened to me......... ;) Which one do you use then? The decent 1080p+ LED projectors are $2000+. That was actually meant differently.... ;)
EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You're at it from day 0! |
Anakhel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:45:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Locke DieDrake wrote:
I use proper high resolution displays for EVE but I know some people that use TVs like you do. I can't handle 1080p resolution, since I run at 2x that number on the least capable of my displays.
To each their own.
Yes 1080P sucks. I'm running multiple 30 Inch Monitors at 2560 x 1600. EVE looks spectacular. Gonna go 4K but I want to wait until there is a good monitor with only 1 panel. The new ASUS is very nice but has 2 panels side by side. They "say" that doesn't make a difference but for $3500 bucks I wanna be sure...
True that, I think a lot of people don't realized many TV screen have surpassed Computer Screen in terms of resolution.
I honestly don't see why I would go back to a computer screen. I tested the 2560 x 1600 on a 30" and it was insane. Blast off even my Apple Cinema Display. Looking forward to see my rig upgraded with 2x 30" @ 2560 x 1600 and adding a 55" @ 4k resolution - 3840 x 2160 or even 5120 x 3200. At that stage, I am afraid the bottleneck will be the video card. (And of course the budget, but wait 2 years and they going to be at 600$)
With the new 'pc mode' features on most tv, there is zero lag. Computer Screen and TV Screen market will clearly merged.
Only thing I can image for the computer screen market is the curved shape 180 degrees screen that is not interesting for a TV, or the office market that required high end calibration. (After Effect, InDesign, Maya, that kind of stuff) |
Pap Uhotih
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2014.01.31 11:58:00 -
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Locke DieDrake wrote:
I use proper high resolution displays for EVE but I know some people that use TVs like you do. I can't handle 1080p resolution, since I run at 2x that number on the least capable of my displays.
To each their own.
(Presuming we are excluding 4k.)
I don't think so, a 55" TV provides the same constrained image as a 30" TV which allows a much worse image than a 30" monitor, it is chalk and cheese.
Relatively small monitors keep up with TV's with ease. If your going to sit close to the screen then it makes a big difference, a 1080 HD TV spreads the pixels too thinly for there to be any gain in sitting near it - you would effectively see a lot of empty space. Sitting further away the TV comes into its own as the density of the pixels in a monitor is too high for the detail to be seen from a distance. The DPI and the distance you sit from the screen should be a clever ratio that deserves to be in this thread somewhere.
The pic of the op's log in screen is useful for comparison, a 30" monitor (2560x1600) give a 2" gap between the moon and the left of the character selection box (similar difference to top and bottom) over the large TV (1920x1080?). Not a massive difference (clearly the monitor is showing a bigger picture than the TV) but just as you can see far more of the log in screen you don't have issues like the market window blocking out the sun etc. The smaller TV's shown (720?) are of such low resolution that a 30" monitor could replace them both without altering the amount of information displayed. Assuming you were sitting close of course, if you're walking around the room etc. then the TV set up would be easier to keep an eye on.
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
601
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Posted - 2014.01.31 12:12:00 -
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have 60 inch 1080 HD but resolution is to poor for my taste monitor over it 99% of time.
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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Kenrailae
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
150
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Posted - 2014.01.31 12:12:00 -
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I am but a nub and only use a 23 and 21 inch monitor, I think. Not 100% sure on the metrics.
The Law is a point of View |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Var Foundation inc.
268
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Posted - 2014.01.31 12:19:00 -
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42" @1920 x 1080
Samsung LCD hd tv
Eve looks great , if I could play it.
However this is what it's usually used for
If in doubt...do...excessively. |
Anakhel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.01.31 12:38:00 -
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Pap Uhotih wrote:The pic of the op's log in screen is useful for comparison, a 30" monitor (2560x1600) give a 2" gap between the moon and the left of the character selection box (similar difference to top and bottom) over the large TV (1920x1080?). Not a massive difference (clearly the monitor is showing a bigger picture than the TV) but just as you can see far more of the log in screen you don't have issues like the market window blocking out the sun etc. The smaller TV's shown (720?) are of such low resolution that a 30" monitor could replace them both without altering the amount of information displayed.
No sadly this setup isnt 4k. Right now my 30" are 1360 x 768, they do support 1920 x 1080 but I run 3x screen on 1 GTX 570 that (first) should not be able to do triple monitor. (Read everywhere, they should support only 2 monitor) My third monitor is plug via a usb 3 to hdmi link, but the GeForces still take it and render on all screen.
When I upgrade the 30" to 1920 x 1080, the picutre is obviously quite crisp, but nothing compare to the 2560 x 1600 I tested.
As for the 55", it is 1920 x 1080 and indeed, a little bit more blurry but with all the picture ajustement option, i honestly find it quite sharp.
Again, until I can afford the 4k version. That will change the game big time. At those resolution, it's the OS font and configuration that is not ready for such screen. Did you saw windows 8 on 4k resolution? |
Dior Rellik
NERFSQUAD
9
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Posted - 2014.01.31 12:58:00 -
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32" Widescreen LCD TV is what I use. I'm also square eyed and will never go back to anything smaller, although I am looking to buy a new rig. Really like the op's setup and it ain't OTT as others often are. |
Pap Uhotih
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2014.01.31 13:20:00 -
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Anakhel wrote:Pap Uhotih wrote:The pic of the op's log in screen is useful for comparison, a 30" monitor (2560x1600) give a 2" gap between the moon and the left of the character selection box (similar difference to top and bottom) over the large TV (1920x1080?). Not a massive difference (clearly the monitor is showing a bigger picture than the TV) but just as you can see far more of the log in screen you don't have issues like the market window blocking out the sun etc. The smaller TV's shown (720?) are of such low resolution that a 30" monitor could replace them both without altering the amount of information displayed. No sadly this setup isnt 4k. Right now my 30" are 1360 x 768, they do support 1920 x 1080 but I run 3x screen on 1 GTX 570 that (first) should not be able to do triple monitor. (Read everywhere, they should support only 2 monitor) My third monitor is plug via a usb 3 to hdmi link, but the GeForces still take it and render on all screen. When I upgrade the 30" to 1920 x 1080, the picutre is obviously quite crisp, but nothing compare to the 2560 x 1600 I tested. As for the 55", it is 1920 x 1080 and indeed, a little bit more blurry but with all the picture ajustement option, i honestly find it quite sharp. Again, until I can afford the 4k version. That will change the game big time. At those resolution, it's the OS font and configuration that is not ready for such screen. Did you saw windows 8 on 4k resolution?
Without heading off into research land and with a sense that I will be corrected. 1920x1080 is half (roughly) the pixels of 2560x1600. That means that 30" monitors cant use a standard DVI port as they don't have sufficient bandwidth so what tends (tended) to be the case is that a graphics card came with one dual link capable DVI port and one standard DVI port. That meant that a card had (in theory) sufficient bandwidth for three 1920x1080 displays - I never looked into whether it was possible to access that potential. |
Frank Millar
427
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Posted - 2014.01.31 13:41:00 -
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Iiyama ProLite GB2773HS 27 inch 144 hrz monitor at 1920x1080. I need a DVI-D cable to make the 144 hrz happen, that's for sure. |
Oxylan
QRDELESH - Mutual Admiration Society
110
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Posted - 2014.01.31 16:43:00 -
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Nothing wrong with playing on TV if you fell comfortable, got enough fps, sharp scren and resolotiun.
In future i plan to play on ultra wide lcd, 21:9 ratio somthing betwen 27-32'
Stuf on big screns looks cool, but when we talking about long therm gaming, middle size scren are best for playing, having scren monster close to eyes is bad idea, you lose focus and everything looks to big, even while using 24' monitor somtime i neeed to push it back because if to close thing looks so big and gaming is less efficient.
If it bleed we can kill it. |
Azov Rassau
Neo CONCORD
1
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Posted - 2014.01.31 17:40:00 -
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Anakhel wrote:I just got flamed for 'showing off' because of my rig. Truth is, instead of buying 2x Computer Screen I decided to go with one 55" + 2x 30" flat TV. Bottom line it costed me only 100$ more. I got great framerate, flat screen now have 'computer mode" you can activate, zero lag, Eve is just incredibly immersive and gorgeous on such a setup. Actually, any game is.
That's a nice setup you have there, I like the ambience and TV screen is a good idea.
But THIS beats almost any EVE gaming setup, I guessGǪ  |
Anakhel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.01.31 18:09:00 -
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Azov Rassau wrote:That's a nice setup you have there, I like the ambience and TV screen is a good idea.
Thanks!
Azov Rassau wrote:But THIS beats almost any EVE gaming setup, I guessGǪ
Gooooooood...... The only thing missing is the capitain chair in the middle of that room!
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
0
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Posted - 2014.02.03 15:02:00 -
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"Response time: 12 ms gray to gray"
Ughhh!...... how can your eyes not hurt after spinning in space with that response time?
I cheap TV is not meant to handle that fast changing image of a computer game, hence there are "gaming monitors", not "TV one size fits all". A quality TV with "sports mode".... maybe, but that would cost quite a bit more |
Karl Jerr
Herzack Unit
1
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:53:00 -
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No TV; Asus PA246Q 24", my alt is on the second monitor: a 22" LCD Asus |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19135
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Posted - 2014.02.03 23:58:00 -
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hydraSlav wrote:"Response time: 12 ms gray to gray"
Ughhh!...... how can your eyes not hurt after spinning in space with that response time? Kids these days.
I remember when 15ms was lightning fast. 
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Proper Gangster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.04 00:56:00 -
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At the moment I'm using a single 32 inch 1920x1080 60 Hz CCFL Backlit LCD TV through HDMI, with a Radeon 7850.
I game on the couch, sat next to the Mrs, who also PC games from the couch.
Despite upping the font sizes, GUI scale and so on, the text is a bit small, and I'm unwilling to drop the resolution. I'm thinking about either getting a bigger TV, or maybe getting a monitor and somehow mounting that pretty close.
I have a desk I could sit at with a 1080P monitor, but what can I say - that would mean moving further away from my lady - she would be unwilling to accept such a compromise! My ideal/realistic setup would be triple 1080P monitors at a close enough distance, but I'm unsure how I'd feel about the bezels. |
James Nikolas Tesla
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
68
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:00:00 -
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Just me and my 1024 x 768 laptop screen.
1/27/14 A hell of a good day to be a miner!
Please help me with my ORE Battleship.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=315675 |
Wacktopia
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
622
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Posted - 2014.02.04 01:43:00 -
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Normally on the computer screen but occasionally on the TV if I'm in the mood for sitting in front of the big screen.
It doesn't render as well but I basically become a starship captain a little bit more so,.... yeah :)
Forums are playing EVE too. Fact. |
hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
0
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Posted - 2014.02.04 02:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:hydraSlav wrote:"Response time: 12 ms gray to gray"
Ughhh!...... how can your eyes not hurt after spinning in space with that response time? Kids these days. I remember when 15ms was lightning fast.
Actually, in "those days", a CRT (0 response time) was superior in every way (besides portability), and i've had my CRT till about 2 months ago :P |
Nelly Uanos
Quebec's Underdog League
Quebec United Legions
4
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Posted - 2014.02.04 02:28:00 -
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A couch with recliner, cordless mice, keyboard and headset. 47" LG HDTV. The computer is not in the same room actually. 
Doing fine... the worst was getting use to the small character but it's mostly gone now.
Wouldn't change back.  |
Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
145
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Posted - 2014.02.04 04:55:00 -
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I was playing on two 23" NEC EA231WMi (1920x1080). One character per screen if using both, I rarely stretched one window out across both screens. One screen died recently though and I replaced it with a 27" Dell U2713HM (2560x1440). The extra resolution is very nice for EVE's mess of UI windows I usually have open. Also a nice improvement for working in photoshop.
4k monitors sound niiiice... But too pricy unless you settle for a TN panel. Bleh. |
ashley Eoner
262
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Posted - 2014.02.04 05:30:00 -
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Anakhel wrote:Hey, Just curious, anyone here play eve on a TV instead of a computer screen? I just got flamed for 'showing off' because of my rig. Truth is, instead of buying 2x Computer Screen I decided to go with one 55" + 2x 30" flat TV. Bottom line it costed me only 100$ more. I got great framerate, flat screen now have 'computer mode" you can activate, zero lag, Eve is just incredibly immersive and gorgeous on such a setup. Actually, any game is. So I was curious, people spent hundreds of dollars in plex, thousand in rig and video card. What screen you plug on such computer? Q: How many of you DO play on a TV screen?
I play on a monitor because playing on a large TV sucks.
low resolution + large screen area = huge pixels. TVs have minimum viewing distances because the pixel sizes are so large.
I'd rather play high resolution on a smaller screen area so everything is sharper.
EDIT : I don't like playing stretched across screens because the bezels annoy the poop out of me. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
454
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Posted - 2014.02.04 11:55:00 -
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i have kinda same as you , 1 tv , 2 pc screens, 1 rig
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
ashley Eoner
262
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Posted - 2014.02.04 12:04:00 -
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Tippia wrote:hydraSlav wrote:"Response time: 12 ms gray to gray"
Ughhh!...... how can your eyes not hurt after spinning in space with that response time? Kids these days. I remember when 15ms was lightning fast.
As noted before CRT was superior in those days..
Hell in my day CGA was a luxury with most running variations of monochrome. I had an all in one monochrome green 8086 that was the bomb diggity decades before the imac popularized the all in one. |
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