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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2003.09.13 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Athren Soulsteal on 13/09/2003 23:04:59
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Boarding abandoned ships will result in them being tagged as stolen and being found piloting illegal or stolen ships will be a ship destruction level crime.
Saw this in another thread and it seem to have been ignored by everyone. However one of the things I do out of habit is check systems for direlics and I find about 2 per week, or used too.
So now if you find a direlic you must just leave it? The very name means abandoned ship and since most of these are from people that have quit the game, well I see a new exploit.
Get a ship, go leave it in space and sit back and watch as some poor unsuspecting player finds it, jumps in and is automaticlly attacked by the cops.
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cball
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Posted - 2003.09.13 23:10:00 -
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Interesting, havent heard of this
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Roba
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Posted - 2003.09.13 23:44:00 -
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EVE scifi story I rememeber the looting and salaving of derilict ships has been legit.
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Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2003.09.14 00:41:00 -
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What's the reasoning behind it? People complaining about their ships being stolen? Doesn't make sense. You might as well just get rid of the eject option.
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Darger VonReign
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Posted - 2003.09.14 01:04:00 -
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I don't like the idea....nor sec hits in 0.0 space.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.09.14 01:04:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 14/09/2003 01:04:12
Why?
I have a suspicion that people asked for this so they can bring their mining ship and hauler to the same belt, eject from one, board the other. I don't see any other use for it! Is this feature really necessary?!?!
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Athren Soulsteal
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Posted - 2003.09.14 01:23:00 -
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Actually heres my problem with it. When a player in a non player corp dies (kills their avatar or quits eve not sure if both) their items are randomly scattered across the systems. Any CEO knows that if a member dies all their stuff is automaticlly put in the corp hanger, well NPC corps do not have hangers so the stuff is scattered to the winds. This is why we used to find more direlects when everyone was quiting(i have looked up the players who owned the ships I found and no such player existed).
So if the player kill off their avatar and their ship is kicked out to space it has no owner becuse the owner no longer exists. These used to be nice easter eggs since I have found and retreved eveything from frigs (probe, batam) to crusers. My first thorax and vex were direlics I had found.
Unless there is some "theif/blackmarket" skill I do not know about removing the ability to retreve these ships has to be the worst idea since the one to move all the rare ore out to 0.0 space (but thats another post )
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Jorev
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Posted - 2003.09.14 03:07:00 -
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Why is CCP screwing around with things that are not broken when there are plenty of things that need fixing?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 07:41:00 -
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CSM chats have been useless - most of the gimps asked questions about corp. mangement.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.09.14 09:02:00 -
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not nessecery at all.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.14 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 14/09/2003 01:04:12
Why?
I have a suspicion that people asked for this so they can bring their mining ship and hauler to the same belt, eject from one, board the other. I don't see any other use for it! Is this feature really necessary?!?!
This would only be true if you get ganked for boarding your own ship from another ship.
I doubt carebears were responsible for this.
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Klydor
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Posted - 2003.09.14 11:12:00 -
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TBH I've yet to see an abandonded ship, well aside from the odd ibis outside a station. So the change will not effect me in the slightest.
It would lead to intresting posibilities if concord were able to retreive stolen ships and return them to their owners. But the chances of a ship been stolen in my mind as so slim anyway, I can't see the need for the change.
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slothe
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Posted - 2003.09.14 11:29:00 -
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ive oicked up loads of noob ships i found floating around - im a thief bah
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Aki Ross
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Posted - 2003.09.14 11:41:00 -
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It could be ok if it only applies to owned Ships.
That would let people claim unowned derelicts.
After all, if it has no owner how could it be theft?
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Sabahl
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Posted - 2003.09.14 11:51:00 -
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I don't understand what all the righteous ire is for.
If you board your own ship then it is still tagged as you so it's not salvaged, therefore you will not get a kill flag.
If you board any other ship you will be salvaging which is very often frowned upon.
And if, as many people point out, this is a "fix" for a problem that doesn't exis then why give a damn anyway?
I say bring it in. Lets see what it does to the game.
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2003.09.14 11:58:00 -
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Seems like another weird rule to add to their list of wierd rules...
It's getting to the point that you have to re-learn the rulebook after each patch now.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.09.14 12:08:00 -
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It is in the Updates section - it is planned for the future when the standing system is fully intergrated.
Nothing is set in stone yet I would believe, so stop whining, move over to the idea lab and post your thoughts how to do it better instead ;)
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2003.09.14 12:14:00 -
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Derik
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Posted - 2003.09.14 16:55:00 -
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Wrangler can you move this to the ideas lab cause I have some suggestions.
1: With the upcoming hacking skill if we are allowed to bypass the the ship hangers security and steal a ship then I can see it being tagged as stolen. But why would it be destroyed by the cops? Would it not be better for the cops to disable it then override the contoles and eject the player. I mean if someonw stills my ship I shure do not want the cops destroying it, I want it back if they can catch the theif.
2: The quote states "boarding and abandoned ship", well there needs to be a timer added. I can see the hopping into a ship that the owner is out exploring in his pod as jacking it. /the safest war to explore for rare ores is to park at a moon and search with a pod as the NPC will ignore you/
however if a ship has been left in space for say 24 hours it should be considered a direlic and thus salvage right apply.
One of the reasions I also check every system out is to find any easter eggs that may be out there. I have always imagine and hoped that one day i would run across an abandoned Jove frig and in the cargo would be the log of the previous owner recounting some great battle and how the ship was damaged and the owner was going to try and make it in his life pod. /you know content, story line/ If they take away the ability to salavage ships they are also taking away the ability to add a lot of really cool content.
Just imagine running across a ship that in a news release was the heroic figure in a recent battle and only now do you find the body of the owner floating beside. Or finding a ship and in the cargo is antibotics for a plauge /read the data log gives you the quest/ so now you must fly the ship and save the planet or turn your back on them and sell the stuff on the black market. Or how about finding a ship that was testing a new prototype drive do you activate the drive and suffer the fate of the missing pilot or do you return the ship to the owners corp...
See all these types of things will no longer be available if the DEV team makes salvaging illeagle 
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2003.09.14 20:47:00 -
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THAT
Is one stupid thing to do..
If you eject your ship is up for grabs.. I havn't heard of anyone complaining about it?
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