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Unuthiel
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Posted - 2006.04.06 14:40:00 -
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SRS likes pirates for the most part. We live in one of the most pirate infested areas in Metropolis and generally have good dealings with those of the pirate profession.
That says a lot about these so called freedom fighters.
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Camar
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Posted - 2006.04.06 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Unuthiel
That says a lot about these so called freedom fighters.
1. SRS NEVER claimed to be freedomfighters.
2. SRS has always stated that their goal is the annihilation of the amarr empire and religion by ANY means.
3. What others think of our methods or corporation are of little or no concern what so ever.
4. This statement was made in order for those who wish to avoid armed conflict with SRS pilots and/or be viewed as hostile targets.
5. SRS are NOT affiliated with any alliance and/or corporation. The ONLY "outsiders" having any sphere of influence are Karin Midular and Wkumi Pol.
If there are any other questions or alike, anyone is free to either state them here or contact me personally.
Baseless accusations or false information stated as the "truth" will be ignored in the future.
We have no hidden agenda and are up front with our actions and stand for what we do and say.
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Unuthiel
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Posted - 2006.04.06 16:54:00 -
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3. What others think of our methods or corporation are of little or no concern what so ever.
Heh. It might seem of slightly greater concern as they are podding you. All you are achieving with the piracy statement is setting another group of pilots (the "anti-pirates") against you.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.04.06 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Camar
If there are any other questions or alike, anyone is free to either state them here or contact me personally.
Yes! There is another question.
Why does your name make me think of fried seafood?
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[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.04.06 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Camar
2. SRS has always stated that their goal is the annihilation of the amarr empire and religion by ANY means.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, is precisely why these impudent villains will be crushed.
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Mr Vapor
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:13:00 -
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I don't feel crushed. Do you have a crush on us Rodj?
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Forgery
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:41:00 -
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Edited by: Forgery on 06/04/2006 21:42:43
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Camar
4. This statement was made in order for those who wish to avoid armed conflict with SRS pilots and/or be viewed as hostile targets.
I don't wish to avoid armed conflict with SRS pilots. In fact, I've done my best to engage in armed conflict with SRS pilots for months, my corporation even declaring war on SRS. Sadly, avoiding armed conflict is what SRS seems to do best except toward people that can't defend themselves.
You couldn't even bother us, but you're going to destroy the Empire? If it weren't so pathetic I'd laugh.
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Mr Vapor
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Revanant
Originally by: Camar
4. This statement was made in order for those who wish to avoid armed conflict with SRS pilots and/or be viewed as hostile targets.
I don't wish to avoid armed conflict with SRS pilots. In fact, I've done my best to engage in armed conflict with SRS pilots for months, my corporation even declaring war on SRS. Sadly, avoiding armed conflict is what SRS seems to do best except toward people that can't defend themselves.
You couldn't even bother us, but you're going to destroy the Empire? If it weren't so pathetic I'd laugh.
Weird thing here is we can say the same about your people. I flew through Amarr territories constantly for the past few months and not....one...single...time did I see any 1st PG pilot. I guess you all fight wars from inside stations.
Maybe next time I dock in an Amarr station we can play checkers for the fate of the universe or something.
What I'm saying is, before calling us cowards essentially, maybe you could tell us where you might be and we could come visit. Stormriders doesn't hide the fact where we are. You can find us in several systems. Ardar, Taff, Gukalara, Klogori......one of us is there for sure usually. We have never hid and we never avoid unless we are faced with absolutely insurmountable odds. We live in a den of pirates for goddsakes.
Maybe you should reevaluate your opinion a little there.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:21:00 -
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We flew frequently through Amarr looking for you all. Usually ended up with Breed Love sitting docked in Emperor Family Station.
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Camar
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:30:00 -
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Darth Revanant...
First of all the war was made mutual.
We have been present in amarr space on several occasions.
The reason the war was retracted had something to do with an report including the three letters ooc.
So either you make a post containing ALL information or give it a rest.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.04.07 00:27:00 -
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So should I just contact you personally, then?
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[04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw
[07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Vera Nosfyu
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Posted - 2006.04.07 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Revanant
We flew frequently through Amarr looking for you all. Usually ended up with Breed Love sitting docked in Emperor Family Station.
And why, praytell, should you be able to find us there? That would be like if I ran around Heimatar wondering why I couldn't find any Amarrian loyalists. There is no sense in allowing ourselves to be tracked down on your turf. If you want to find us so badly why don't you come up to our territory some time? I'm sure you'll be able to find a fight any time of the day there.
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Camar
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Posted - 2006.04.07 00:50:00 -
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I am sorry Nikolai Nuvolari, but I completely forgot about your question.
As to an answer - I really have NO idea 
But some crayfish would be tempting at this moment...mmm
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2006.04.07 04:18:00 -
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Edited by: Darth Revanant on 07/04/2006 04:21:06
Originally by: Vera Nosfyu
Originally by: Darth Revanant
We flew frequently through Amarr looking for you all. Usually ended up with Breed Love sitting docked in Emperor Family Station.
And why, praytell, should you be able to find us there?
Originally by: Mr Vapor
I flew through Amarr territories constantly for the past few months and not....one...single...time did I see any 1st PG pilot. I guess you all fight wars from inside stations.
Maybe next time I dock in an Amarr station we can play checkers for the fate of the universe or something.
Originally by: Camar
We have been present in amarr space on several occasions.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2006.04.07 04:24:00 -
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Originally by: Camar
Darth Revanant...
First of all the war was made mutual.
We have been present in amarr space on several occasions.
The reason the war was retracted had something to do with an report including the three letters ooc.
So either you make a post containing ALL information or give it a rest.
The reason the war was retracted has nothing to do with the reason SRS is no threat to the Empire or those who serve it. So long as you have the audacity to declare war against the Empire I will not give it a rest.
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Edward Sarum
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Posted - 2006.04.07 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Vera Nosfyu
And why, praytell, should you be able to find us there? That would be like if I ran around Heimatar wondering why I couldn't find any Amarrian loyalists. There is no sense in allowing ourselves to be tracked down on your turf. If you want to find us so badly why don't you come up to our territory some time? I'm sure you'll be able to find a fight any time of the day there.
ROFL, oh dear God in Heaven the Minmatar must be your creation to show us the stupidity in us all. Let me be sure I have this straight dog. Your terrorist cell declares all Amarr space a war zone but we will not find you in Amarr space. You will destroy the Amarr Empire by sitting in Minmatar space? ROFL
Well just to set the record straight little dog I was in Patro last night for some time and di not see you or your filth anywhere. So any time of day must not apply as you said, unless of course you keep on regualr busniess hours? Then again most dogs do not keep business hours since they do not sit on street corners.
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Shemar
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Posted - 2006.04.07 13:28:00 -
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I find it very entertaining that the Amarr loyalists are so incapable of handling guerilla warfare that they publicly admit (and complain) that they can't find the enemy.
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Tomahawk Bliss
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Posted - 2006.04.07 13:44:00 -
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Originally by: Shemar
I find it very entertaining that the Amarr loyalists are so incapable of handling guerilla warfare that they publicly admit (and complain) that they can't find the enemy.
what a snide and uneducated comment, i expect more of you Shemar.
If someone doesn't wish to be engaged, they will stay in null space or in a station, simple as that. if a small group chooses to avoid someone they can very easily. the mechanics of our universe make it beyond easy to run away, and infinitely harder to hold some one in place while you beat them bloody. if you had any experience you'd know this.
not to say that either of the two groups do run away, just that if one force wanted too the other couldn't do anything about it.
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Shemar
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:01:00 -
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My understanding of the SRS way of operations is that they hurt the Amarr empire by attacking it's weak assets. I have no direct ties with any of them, I draw that conclusion from the Amarr loyalist industrial corps that capitulate to them publicly from time to time. In that context, I would assume that their capability to act thusly without the Amarr loyalist organisations being able to stop them indicates sound strategy and tactics.
I do not know what their policy or tactics are regarding engagement of combat forces, but one would expect that like every other sound combat force they engage when the odds are in their favor and evade when the odds are against them.
I have always found, regardless of the specific situation, that complaining about the tactics of your enemy is a sure sign that you are incapable of adapting to them. I do not see the SRS complaining, only their enemies, so by that I assume they are using superior tactics.
Yes, avoiding comflict is the easiest thing to do, if you know what you are doing, no argument there, but that's just how things are. It's not as if the SRS have not been achieving their objectives in the past. Based on their past results I would expect them to be in a position to do a good deal of damage to Amarr loyalist corporations.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2006.04.07 14:55:00 -
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Your point would be valid, heathen, except they don't claim to attack only weak assets. Here's what they do claim:
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We are now taking this a step further to target those who are passively supporting Amarr and it's allies by conducting business in Amarr, Khanid, and Ammatar territories, doing missions that further the interests of the Amarr, Khanid, and Ammatar, or engaging the pirates who would otherwise damage the Amarr, Khanid and Ammatar.
They are going to target all pilots who in any way support the Empire. I'm merely showing their inability to do just that. I would not bother if they had correctly said:
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We are now taking this a step further to target those who are passively supporting Amarr and it's allies by conducting business in Amarr, Khanid, and Ammatar territories, doing missions that further the interests of the Amarr, Khanid, and Ammatar, or engaging the pirates who would otherwise damage the Amarr, Khanid and Ammatar unless they are capable at combat.
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Shemar
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Posted - 2006.04.07 15:17:00 -
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I did not see anything indicating they would not engage battle hardened enemies. But doing so by choosing their own time, place and circumstances is a perfectly valid option. Surely you would not expect them to make an appointment with you in order to fight?
I cannot speak for SRS, but if it was me trying to destroy an empire with a handful of pod pilots, the last thing I would give you is standing battles. I would instead strike when you are alone and weak and dissapear into the vastness of space or the safety of a station when you are many and strong. And it would be your job to find a way to defeat this tactic.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2006.04.07 19:59:00 -
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This discussion is pointless and I would prefer if 1PG pilots would let it rest until SRS has proven that they are a threat.
I'd like to take the occassion though to point out again that neither Navy housekeeping tasks nor policing the Domain area are part of our units portfolio.
Now recruiting!
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Breed Love
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:10:00 -
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Havent we proven it already Tharrn? It was you who pulled the war, probably because you were way too weak for us, yes. Your countless excuses just prove that.
------ Originally by: Gazon
In any case, the whole affair had one lasting effect: Awarding Stormriders the label of ridiculous drug addicts with a tendency towards utterly foolish actions.
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Silver Night
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Posted - 2006.04.08 05:05:00 -
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2006.04.07 23:53
Stormriders has declared war on Intergalactic Combined Technologies.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
An odd thing to do. I supposed we looked ideal. Have members that do some work for the Amarr and whatnot. Good luck, see you in space.
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couger malthas
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Posted - 2006.04.08 14:24:00 -
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um, miss stormrider *****.
I would have to say im behinde the amarr 110% so does that mean you will try and pod kill im in amarr? does that mean you will kill me in 0.0?
If so can you please come say hi, or even you know start a war with me, i really want to play with a few new slaves cuz the ones i have are already seeing the light and love of god. So to me that means i need not beat them anymore.
So come willingly by prove low sec and well i would have to then give you the kiss of death. and what a waste it would be, you are such a wounderful specimen, you could have grow my stocks but it will never happen, you are to far from god.
fair well and im sorry but i must be sending you to hell if i ever see you.
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Kendar Zek
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Posted - 2006.04.09 03:44:00 -
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Stripping away the boastful egos on both sides of this discussion leaves me curious. I must ask what the Stormriders hope to gain by announcing to the entire capsuleer community that we are all targets if found in Amarr space. From a tactical perspective, it would stand to reason that the smaller force would seek to maintain the element of surprise by refraining from announcing their intentions.
Pardon me if I'm a bit under-educated on both fleet deployment and guerilla tactics, but common sense would dictate that neon signs are not in order when conducting hit and run operations. It occurs to me that such a bold declaration would simply draw the ire of pilots who would normally be content to mind their own business and leave cultural and territorial issues to the involved parties. Do you also intend to assault CONCORD and Imperial Navy vessels? Let's not forget that they support the security of the Amarr Empire, and therefore classify as targets under the terms of your declaration of hostilities.
Perhaps you are simply posturing for public support from the enemies of the Amarr Empire. This bold announcement by the Stormriders is incongruent with members' claims that they are indifferent towards others' opinions. Guerilla fighters rarely issue warnings to their prey; such things are more a formality of fielding a large occupation force, for the benefit of innocent bystanders who may be caught in the crossfire.
Needless to say, this affair has left me scratching my head. I rarely travel through imperial territory, but I certainly hope that the Stormriders have the good sense to recognize that not everyone in Amarr space is personally conspiring with the emperor. Personally, I am unconcerned with racial hostilities, save to say that I mourn the loss of life on both sides of these conflicts.
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Vera Nosfyu
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Posted - 2006.04.09 06:16:00 -
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Before I start, Mr. Zek, I would like to thank you for maintaining a respectful tone. This is, unfortunately, far more than those who would claim to be our betters have managed to do.
Originally by: Kendar Zek
Stripping away the boastful egos on both sides of this discussion leaves me curious. I must ask what the Stormriders hope to gain by announcing to the entire capsuleer community that we are all targets if found in Amarr space. From a tactical perspective, it would stand to reason that the smaller force would seek to maintain the element of surprise by refraining from announcing their intentions.
We do not want meaningless conflict. This press release was intended to help other pod pilots understand that we are not pirates, that they are perfectly safe from us so long as they leave the Amarr Empire.
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Do you also intend to assault CONCORD and Imperial Navy vessels? Let's not forget that they support the security of the Amarr Empire, and therefore classify as targets under the terms of your declaration of hostilities.
Fighting the Imperial Navy is still a ways out of our grasp. This press release is a declaration of intent, not a signal to go weapons-free on every ship in sight. Despite what others may have you believe we are not so full of delusions of grandeur to think that we can accomplish what we have set out to with the strength we have now.
Also, the notion of attacking CONCORD is absurd. CONCORD is a diplomatically neutral entity and while I would very much like to see it turn its guns against the slaver menace it provides an important function to the galaxy as a whole.
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Guerilla fighters rarely issue warnings to their prey; such things are more a formality of fielding a large occupation force, for the benefit of innocent bystanders who may be caught in the crossfire.
That is exactly what we are doing, Mr. Zek. We are letting everyone who has been passively aiding in the enslavement of the Minmatar and promotion of the Amarrian religion of bigotry know that if they stay in Amarr space they are in danger of retaliation by the Stormriders. Recall the ending statement of the press release, "LEAVE! Or your lives may become forfeit." We do not want to endanger anyone who simply did not think about the global repricussions of doing business in Amarr.
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Needless to say, this affair has left me scratching my head. I rarely travel through imperial territory, but I certainly hope that the Stormriders have the good sense to recognize that not everyone in Amarr space is personally conspiring with the emperor. Personally, I am unconcerned with racial hostilities, save to say that I mourn the loss of life on both sides of these conflicts.
Of course they aren't. However it's simple economics. Every time you buy something in the Empire or sell something in the Empire you are making the Empire economically stronger.
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Deckchair
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Posted - 2006.04.09 23:39:00 -
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Intriguing.
Hats off to Vera for being a good sport in Mani.
Stormrider's true motive for war dec on ICT was made blatently apparent tonight. One of our members embarrased them in Gyrezen and they want vengeance. Nothing to do with RP, nothing to do with their "terrorist" action against Amarr.
Indeed one of their pilots was declaring he was going to "stab you in the face".
*sigh*
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Vera Nosfyu
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Posted - 2006.04.10 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Deckchair
Intriguing.
Hats off to Vera for being a good sport in Mani.
Stormrider's true motive for war dec on ICT was made blatently apparent tonight. One of our members embarrased them in Gyrezen and they want vengeance. Nothing to do with RP, nothing to do with their "terrorist" action against Amarr.
Indeed one of their pilots was declaring he was going to "stab you in the face".
*sigh*
Or maybe you just made yourselves a rather obvious target by sticking your necks out.
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