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zwerg
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:04:00 -
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Hey guys,
i can fly Heavy Assault Ships now, ( Caldari ) but i dont really like 'em, so i was thinking about a Vagabound or a Deimos, My Gunnery Skills are very high atm, i think it was about 4mil, so im looking for a gun-boat and the eagle isnt that good in fire power as i expected.
So please help me out! what are the pros and cons for a Vaga and a Deimos?
Thanks, zwerg
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Soros
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:08:00 -
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Deimos is a blast to fly, but it relies on a close range engagement otherwise its toast.
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Felony Assualt
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:10:00 -
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Personally id go with the vaga, high damage and very fast. Much better than the piece of **** diemos.
Those who can, do; Those who cant, teach |

madaluap
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg Hey guys,
i can fly Heavy Assault Ships now, ( Caldari ) but i dont really like 'em, so i was thinking about a Vagabound or a Deimos, My Gunnery Skills are very high atm, i think it was about 4mil, so im looking for a gun-boat and the eagle isnt that good in fire power as i expected.
So please help me out! what are the pros and cons for a Vaga and a Deimos?
Thanks, zwerg
4 mil aint that high, but i would say vagabond. that thing is so fast, can tank and deal loads of dmg. with deimos you are slower, tank worse and cant the the allmighty stabs.... _________________________________________________
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Radeon McRaid
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:12:00 -
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If i had to choose between theese 2, i'd choose Vaga. But ih i had a free choice, i'd go for an Ishtar. Sure, you need good drone skills to deal some serious damage with it, but it's worth it.
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zwerg
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:16:00 -
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Yeh, well i am playing almost a year now so i think 4 mil on gunnery are high, for me i mean, first i skilled spaceship command to get all the bonuses for the ships,
Okay i think thats a big point for the vaga, but i heard that it cant take that much damage?!
And on what shall i go? Armor or Shield Repairing?
Could you please give me a good vaga fitting? that would be sooo great.
thx, the tiny zwerg
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Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:25:00 -
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Vaga>Deimos, but Ishtar>Both 
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg Yeh, well i am playing almost a year now so i think 4 mil on gunnery are high, for me i mean, first i skilled spaceship command to get all the bonuses for the ships,
Okay i think thats a big point for the vaga, but i heard that it cant take that much damage?!
And on what shall i go? Armor or Shield Repairing?
Could you please give me a good vaga fitting? that would be sooo great.
thx, the tiny zwerg
Deimos > armortank Vaga > shieldtank Deimos > a bit clumsy considering you want to be up close Vaga > fast as an interceptor while fitted for pvp (no joke)
Where are your tech 2 skills the highest? You dont want to use hacs with tech 1 guns and so-so skills to it. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

Valea Silpha
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:33:00 -
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The vagabond is definitely a better bet than a deimos. With MWD its essentially unkillable unless you jump into a VERY big bubble camp or you over-reach yourself.
The number of times i've seen vagas escape even from numerous BS is quite astounding.
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Haniblecter Teg
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:34:00 -
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Go for minnie HACS, if, for any reason, it'll bring you closer to t2 arties.
That's my rational for training up minnie AF's over Gallente AF's, I'd rather have t2 arties than t2 rails for BS fleet engagements. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
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NateX
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:37:00 -
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do vaga outdamage deimos? 
"Signatures is for n00bs".. lol |

BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: zwerg Yeh, well i am playing almost a year now so i think 4 mil on gunnery are high, for me i mean, first i skilled spaceship command to get all the bonuses for the ships,
Okay i think thats a big point for the vaga, but i heard that it cant take that much damage?!
And on what shall i go? Armor or Shield Repairing?
Could you please give me a good vaga fitting? that would be sooo great.
thx, the tiny zwerg
There's a nice discussion about Vagabond loadouts here: Linky
The ship is highly versatile, i've been flying it almost exclusively for some time and i still tend to change my setups every now and then. Contrary to the gimped concept of "versatility" other minie ships have, this is one that varies from decent to excellent in whatever you set it up for (within reasonable boundaries of course).
Originally by: Black Lotus I vote u for KIA spokesperson.
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zwerg
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Posted - 2006.04.02 16:54:00 -
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Great Thank ya guys,
well my current skill tree in gunnery for minni ships is:
S Projectil turret 5 M '' '' 5 L '' '' 0
so there is no prob using tech 2 guns for minnies i think, well i have skilled small and medium hybrid turret special, so there cant be a prob or?
Okay youre cool guys thx for the tipps and links. Now another question : Have you got fittings for the vaga? Cause i dont know anything about minnies or such.
Huge thank you, zwerg
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SiLeNCel2
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Posted - 2006.04.02 22:01:00 -
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vaga is cool, but if u get nosed by a bs, warp!!!! also a webber can cause u some serious trouble! pick your target wisely, or uŠll loose your 180 mil ship+equip in no time!
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