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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.04.05 11:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
War-crime
The facility was constructed by a terrorist force, and was being used to train the next generation of terrorists.
It was, therefore, a legitimate military target.
The only crimes here are the acts of extortion and murder perpetrated by the Ushra'Khan and their friends.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:22:00 -
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Yes, coincidence. The planning of the operation had taken longer than the 20 hours we knew that your 'major battle division' had left the Ushra'Khan.
We are merely defending the Empire and our way of life. You are the aggressors who chose to fly incursions into Amarr sovereign territory to steal and murder.
Now recruiting!
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.04.05 12:51:00 -
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A slaver and holder got killed. We will kill alot more before our time is over. I will murder as many slavers as I can lay my hands on.
Freedom for our people will be paved in Amarrian slavers blood.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
We are looking bad as well, for not be able to withstand the fleet
(latest report say 70+ ships including a number of capitals)
Fleet at it's peak was 65 ships...
Originally by: zoolkhan
...that not only consisted of PIE and the CVA but also of 3rd party
syphatizers, whoms role in this war was unknown to that date.
Legion of what? spoon?
Legion of the Spoon have cooperated closely with CVA on anti-pirate operations for a long time. During this time they have come to see the benefits that Amarrian civilisation brings. In addition to this they have developed a direct interest in the Amarr/Minmatar struggle since Stormriders (another terrorist corp) decided to declare open season on everyone in a number of systems they call home...
Originally by: zoolkhan
certain is, these people needed you to come. they would not have done that without your lead. So it is PIE & CVA only who deserve the bad
dreams about it. Your allies are just sheeps who follow.
PIE/CVA cannot funcion without sheeps.
These 'sheep' as you call them are valuable friends and allies with whom we have developed strong relationships while defending Amarrian space and imposing Amarrian law. Many of these 'sheeps' as you call them were pushed towards us due to Ushra'Khan's own terroristic actions.
We cannot help that wise and intelligent pod pilots recognise the truth in the Amarrian way and seek to work with us to preserve the peace. You are terrorists and murderers - it is no wonder right minded people turn against you...
Originally by: zoolkhan
Ushra'khan can. We fight to the last man if necessary.
I respect you for your faith even if it is wrong.
Originally by: zoolkhan
Your timing was well chosen though. You choosed to attack us,
right after one major battle division of the ushra'khan decided to go their own way. Coincidence i take it.
You may not believe me but for the record this operation had been in planning for well over a week - ever since the 'assassination' of Jamir Torash. For an alliance our size 65 pilots are not gathered over the course of an evening... We had no idea that Wongs of Maak were planning on leaving Ushra'Khan and it would have made no difference if we had. The attack would have gone ahead anyway.
Originally by: zoolkhan
But listen to the shepherd -
he knows we are not dead because one lost battle.
Yes you are not dead. Nor do I predict your immediate demise depite the foolish cause you fight for. However your eventual defeat and assimilation into the Amarrian Empire is inevitable. It is fate!
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Smiting pirates and terrorists since Sept 2003
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: zoolkhan on 05/04/2006 13:24:30
Originally by: Tharrn
We are merely defending the Empire and our way of life. You are the aggressors who chose to fly incursions into Amarr sovereign territory to steal and murder.
dont get silly
a) you declared war against us past year.
b) you do slave raids, killing the old kidnapping the young.
i could as well rephrase it: "chose to fly incursions into" minmatar "sovereign territory to steal and murder"
We just come for our people.
regards, v.Adm. ZoolKhan;
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Ethidium Bromide
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ethidium Bromide on 05/04/2006 13:28:01
Originally by: zoolkhan
Edited by: zoolkhan on 05/04/2006 13:24:30
We just come for our people.
i never tire to say: you can get them from market without killing. if you did we'd not even mind you flying around in amarr space.
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just because you are not paranoid doesn't mean i'm not following!
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin
You may not believe me but for the record this operation had been in planning for well over a week - ever since the 'assassination' of Jamir Torash. For an alliance our size 65 pilots are not gathered over the course of an evening... We had no idea that Wongs of Maak were planning on leaving Ushra'Khan and it would have made no difference if we had. The attack would have gone ahead anyway.
From warhorse to warhorse, i dont blame you for that. It was strategically
correct to choose a moment, when the losses on the own side would
be minimal.
Every field marshall would have done the same. Just the choice of the target... for your sake i hope, it was not you who choosed the target.
medals *spits* youre giving out medals for this piece-of-cake, no risk to the pilots assault?
What kind of honour would you hand over to your pilots when they went through a real battle???
regards, v.Adm. ZoolKhan;
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Sykosys
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:37:00 -
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We free slaves from the grip of the Amarr empire and take them to be educated. A free education in which once completed the students are free to choose which ever path they choose.
So what do the amarr slavers do?? They destroy the station where we help freed slaves.
And they call us barbarians.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sykosys
We free slaves from the grip of the Amarr empire and take them to be educated. A free education in which once completed the students are free to choose which ever path they choose.
So what do the amarr slavers do?? They destroy the station where we help freed slaves.
And they call us barbarians.
If the POS was there to educate the slaves that you have freed, then why in this very thread does one of your compatriots tell us that your "students" were recruited from major Minmatar population centres?
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Solusar
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Posted - 2006.04.05 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Originally by: Hardin
You may not believe me but for the record this operation had been in planning for well over a week - ever since the 'assassination' of Jamir Torash. For an alliance our size 65 pilots are not gathered over the course of an evening... We had no idea that Wongs of Maak were planning on leaving Ushra'Khan and it would have made no difference if we had. The attack would have gone ahead anyway.
What kind of honour would you hand over to your pilots when they went through a real battle???
Victory or death is enough.
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Sykosys
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Posted - 2006.04.05 14:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Sykosys
We free slaves from the grip of the Amarr empire and take them to be educated. A free education in which once completed the students are free to choose which ever path they choose.
So what do the amarr slavers do?? They destroy the station where we help freed slaves.
And they call us barbarians.
If the POS was there to educate the slaves that you have freed, then why in this very thread does one of your compatriots tell us that your "students" were recruited from major Minmatar population centres?
I never said they weren't either. I am merely pointing out how the facility was used to educate freed slaves as well. And as such you amarr loyalists destroyed it.
This very reason is why I joined the fight against slavery. I fight to free our people. Yet you fight to continue opressing them and to destroy them. As is evident in your last attack.
You would rather see your slaves dead than free. And it is that very flawed reasoning that I must free my brethren before you kill them all.
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.04.05 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Solusar
Victory or death is enough.
Freedom or death.
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Rise.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.04.05 14:19:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Sykosys
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Sykosys
We free slaves from the grip of the Amarr empire and take them to be educated. A free education in which once completed the students are free to choose which ever path they choose.
So what do the amarr slavers do?? They destroy the station where we help freed slaves.
And they call us barbarians.
If the POS was there to educate the slaves that you have freed, then why in this very thread does one of your compatriots tell us that your "students" were recruited from major Minmatar population centres?
I never said they weren't either. I am merely pointing out how the facility was used to educate freed slaves as well. And as such you amarr loyalists destroyed it.
This very reason is why I joined the fight against slavery. I fight to free our people. Yet you fight to continue opressing them and to destroy them. As is evident in your last attack.
You would rather see your slaves dead than free. And it is that very flawed reasoning that I must free my brethren before you kill them all.
If those slaves were really being educated on that POS, my only complaint would be that we could have done it so much better in the Empire.
However, you and I both know that your idea of education consists of guerilla warfare training, political indoctrination and unholy ceremonies.
As such, the POS could not be allowed to carry on with its vile work.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Neeoma Martineau
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Posted - 2006.04.05 23:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tharrn
We are merely defending the Empire and our way of life. You are the aggressors who chose to fly incursions into Amarr sovereign territory to steal and murder.
If the Amarr didn't have a long history of attack, kidnap, and enslavement, that statement would be entirely valid. As it is you can say little with authority regarding sovereignity, except perhaps how best to justify the violation thereof. Your right to your own way of life ends when it needs slaves to fuel it.
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Aran Cole
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Posted - 2006.04.05 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Neeoma Martineau
If the Amarr didn't have a long history of attack, kidnap, and enslavement, that statement would be entirely valid. As it is you can say little with authority regarding sovereignity, except perhaps how best to justify the violation thereof. Your right to your own way of life ends when it needs slaves to fuel it.
I think to call you a half-wit would be to give you a compliment.
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Neeoma Martineau
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Posted - 2006.04.05 23:53:00 -
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Originally by: Aran Cole
Originally by: Neeoma Martineau
If the Amarr didn't have a long history of attack, kidnap, and enslavement, that statement would be entirely valid. As it is you can say little with authority regarding sovereignity, except perhaps how best to justify the violation thereof. Your right to your own way of life ends when it needs slaves to fuel it.
I think to call you a half-wit would be to give you a compliment.
You're right, I entirely omitted the Amarr's tendancy towards brainwashing and indoctrinating young children. I readily admit that it was a gross oversight and I apologise for any offence I may have caused, or upset to those who are now deprogrammed and considered the aforementioned omission to be an insult and to demean their suffering.
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Aran Cole
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Posted - 2006.04.06 00:44:00 -
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Edited by: Aran Cole on 06/04/2006 00:44:05
Originally by: Neeoma Martineau
Originally by: Aran Cole
Originally by: Neeoma Martineau
If the Amarr didn't have a long history of attack, kidnap, and enslavement, that statement would be entirely valid. As it is you can say little with authority regarding sovereignity, except perhaps how best to justify the violation thereof. Your right to your own way of life ends when it needs slaves to fuel it.
I think to call you a half-wit would be to give you a compliment.
You're right, I entirely omitted the Amarr's tendancy towards brainwashing and indoctrinating young children. I readily admit that it was a gross oversight and I apologise for any offence I may have caused, or upset to those who are now deprogrammed and considered the aforementioned omission to be an insult and to demean their suffering.
Every time you open your mouth you prove my point.
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Neeoma Martineau
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Posted - 2006.04.06 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Aran Cole
Edited by: Aran Cole on 06/04/2006 00:44:05Every time you open your mouth you prove my point.
I don't suppose it'd be worthhile for me to ask for some justification for your uh... opinions?
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2006.04.06 12:46:00 -
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Originally by: Neeoma Martineau
Originally by: Aran Cole
Edited by: Aran Cole on 06/04/2006 00:44:05Every time you open your mouth you prove my point.
I don't suppose it'd be worthhile for me to ask for some justification for your uh... opinions?
Ah minmatar w/o brackground, cheering with the obviously "winning team"
even though it is against his own race, tribes , people.
obviously drugged and brainwashed.
what kind of intelligent comments did you expect neeoma?
his horizon is even too narrow to realize that he would have been
still in slavery and w/o own pod if the rebels and freedom fighters
would not have started the fight back then.
these types of forum-warriors deserve your full ignorance.
regards, v.Adm. ZoolKhan;
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Aran Cole
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Posted - 2006.04.06 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Ah minmatar w/o brackground, cheering with the obviously "winning team"
even though it is against his own race, tribes , people.
obviously drugged and brainwashed.
what kind of intelligent comments did you expect neeoma?
his horizon is even too narrow to realize that he would have been
still in slavery and w/o own pod if the rebels and freedom fighters
would not have started the fight back then.
these types of forum-warriors deserve your full ignorance.
Forgive me.. I haven't made my life story public so therefore I have no background. My own people betrayed ME. They betrayed THEMSELVES by rebelling against the Amarr. Still in slavery without a pod? Ridiculous. If the Minmatar had submitted to the Amarr instead of rebelling, we might actually have a place in the Empire. All my life I will never forgive those who have so selfishly denied a whole race of salvation. And forum-warrior? I'll have you know that I back up every damn thing I say here in space.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:04:00 -
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Aran Cole has been a prominent member of the Aegis Militia since its formation a year ago. That you are ignorant to that fact does not make him any less valuable or worthy of respect. I've flown with him countless times and will do so countless more.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
Since the prowler pilot was also a tempest pilot in the defense fleet i dont need to explain further how it comes that it was "only two hauls". Even a rookie can imagine, that ive been trying to give you some kind of resistance , even though it was quite futile to honour the truth.
So your prowler pilot chose a futile defense attempt instead of rescuing the "innocents" who you admit you knew were going to die if they were left there? Sounds like your priorities need adjusting.
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Aran Cole
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Aran Cole on 06/04/2006 22:52:29
Originally by: Darth Revanant
Aran Cole has been a prominent member of the Aegis Militia since its formation a year ago. That you are ignorant to that fact does not make him any less valuable or worthy of respect. I've flown with him countless times and will do so countless more.
Your words are very kind Master Revanant, thank you.
* Aran Cole bows his head.
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zoolkhan
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Posted - 2006.04.07 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Darth Revanant
So your prowler pilot chose a futile defense attempt instead of rescuing the "innocents" who you admit you knew were going to die if they were left there? Sounds like your priorities need adjusting.
Ok the *yawn* treshold is reached. the answer has been given earlier in this thread.
if i would drop on that level, id probably return with "all that was remaining was amarr workers that were hired to do the cleaning works or something like that. but you'd probably take that for real and make another pressrelease from it:)
some of your allies may confirm though, that my main profession and expertise
lies not in flying prowlers:)
regards, v.Adm. ZoolKhan;
W're Ushra'Khan - we come for our people!
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Elrianmk2
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Posted - 2006.04.07 11:15:00 -
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I am curious would the Ammar have allowed a U'K industrial class ship to evacuate the civilians on that station? I somehow doubt it, in fact i am sure the ship would have been anihilated as well as any ship who tried to assist the civilians on that station for assisting a terrorist organisation. Your remarks and deciet are as always well thought out, but ultimatly flawed.
Perhaps if the Ammar were to have a resettlement facility that allowed all races to come and go without threat of brainwashing or enslavement others may wish to study in thier facilities. I however do not wish to become "Enlightened".
I fear that in order to destroy what Ammar percieves to be terrorists they have sunk to the same ideals that they howl about.
Oh forgive me i forgot, i believe the constant slave raids on Gallante and Minmatar space are probably classed as terrorist activities, i wonder if this happens in Caldari space as well, just better hidden.
Perhaps the Ammar organisations could have requested a Cladari or Gallante observer to be stationed on the facility in order to ensure that this was not a terrorist facility? Whether U'K would have accepted this i do not know. Although given the alternitives that you have displayed perhaps they would have.
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The only certainties are death and taxes.
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The Seneschal
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Posted - 2006.04.07 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: The Seneschal on 07/04/2006 11:27:52
Swift, beatiful justice.
Amarr Victor!
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Edward Sarum
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Posted - 2006.04.07 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: zoolkhan
some of your allies may confirm though, that my main profession and expertise
lies not in flying prowlers:)
This seems very true, your main profession seems to be in making excuses and spinning lies to lay blame for your own inadaquacies on others. Your main profession seems to be attacking Amarr that are just going about their daily lives, your main profession seems to be that of universal scum.. You should get a pay raise you do your job so well...
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Kailea Shandrasekkar
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Posted - 2006.04.07 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Kailea Shandrasekkar on 07/04/2006 11:50:14
Originally by: Elrianmk2
I am curious would the Ammar have allowed a U'K industrial class ship to evacuate the civilians on that station? I somehow doubt it, in fact i am sure the ship would have been anihilated as well as any ship who tried to assist the civilians on that station for assisting a terrorist organisation. Your remarks and deciet are as always well thought out, but ultimatly flawed.
Perhaps if the Ammar were to have a resettlement facility that allowed all races to come and go without threat of brainwashing or enslavement others may wish to study in thier facilities. I however do not wish to become "Enlightened".
I fear that in order to destroy what Ammar percieves to be terrorists they have sunk to the same ideals that they howl about.
Oh forgive me i forgot, i believe the constant slave raids on Gallante and Minmatar space are probably classed as terrorist activities, i wonder if this happens in Caldari space as well, just better hidden.
Perhaps the Ammar organisations could have requested a Cladari or Gallante observer to be stationed on the facility in order to ensure that this was not a terrorist facility? Whether U'K would have accepted this i do not know. Although given the alternitives that you have displayed perhaps they would have.
My skin crawls every time i see a gallente speaking about justice in war.
Seems YOU forgot your history as well. Or wasn't your people who carpet-bombed Caldari Prime, killing millions of innocent lifes, in an, *ahem*, pre-emptive strike?
And yet, it gave you gallente an advantage at war; we focused at rescuing our people. Did Gallente waited for us to remove our relatives, elders and children? frozen hells, NO. We had to endure high losses in order ot evacuate them. But that's all-out war, isn't? That's the way it should be.
Please don't offend my intelligence. There is war happening there between Amarr and Minmatar so-called freedom fighters, not a gallente mud-fight broadcast. They don't need voyeurs. They need a winner and a loser.
Whoever believe in all this democratic, human-rights focused, better-than-thou, just, well-intentioned Gallente lies is as nanve as a baby.
Now let'em fight. If they need your help or your opinion, they'll call.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.04.07 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Elrianmk2
Perhaps the Ammar organisations could have requested a Cladari or Gallante observer to be stationed on the facility in order to ensure that this was not a terrorist facility? Whether U'K would have accepted this i do not know. Although given the alternitives that you have displayed perhaps they would have.
There was an independent Achura observer present for much of the operation.
Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori |
Maggot
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Posted - 2006.04.07 13:17:00 -
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I would hardly call an imbedded reporter independent.
I see he happily repeated the filthy lies you spew over the networks.
Quote:
After the first tower got out of reinforced mode and was open to attack, the fleet continued to evaporate the "Minmatar Cultural Education Centre", giving no quarter. Vice-Admiral Blake, speaking for PIE. Inc. was satisfied: " I think you can see that this was no simple educational facility!," referring to the bases' defences.
You know full well the original base was completely undefended until you attacked it some weeks ago.
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