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Gregor Parud
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Posted - 2014.02.05 13:51:00 -
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Noxisia Arkana wrote:I normally don't but,
10/10.
He put in way too much effort for that. |

Ovv Topik
The Tuskers
623
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Posted - 2014.02.05 13:57:00 -
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Hanz Riemannder wrote: Quoting HTFU and all that isn't really helpfull.
So if you're stll here, get it together, man up, write down the names of the haters here, and start planning payback. It might never happen, but who knows? This is EVE afterall ...
So you're basically saying: HTFU. "Jita 4 4 Spaceport. You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious!" |

Ovv Topik
The Tuskers
623
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Posted - 2014.02.05 14:00:00 -
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Edrante Van'Oola wrote:I havn't been playing very long at all to be honest, my first dumb mistake was flying through rancer in my capsule and losing my +3 implants  The pilot of the smartbombing battleship that made the kill though was a very pleasent fella to chat with so its all good :) See! This forum is full of New Bro's who get EVE.
Have a +1 from me sir.
o7 "Jita 4 4 Spaceport. You will not find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious!" |

Miriya Zakalwe
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
61
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Posted - 2014.02.05 14:05:00 -
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Noxisia Arkana wrote:I normally don't but,
10/10.
I dunno. This one has the cloying stench of actual butthurt. |

Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
193
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Posted - 2014.02.05 14:39:00 -
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Op I feel for you. I remember the first time I did a lvl 4. No one told me that the NPc could scram. Then there was my very first bc - took it unfit into lowsec. Oh and the first time I looked at the ship scanner and said what are these anomalies wrapped to it to check it out and was suddenly blopped from the sky. Every player has been there and every player knows that the new player experience is fairly subpar. But the truth about eve is that none of the real fun in the game comes spoonfed from the dev. In fact eve as a pve game is pretty much crap. What keeps people coming to eve is the meta game - the interactions between players - which you can only really learn and experience from other players. So IMO skip going it on your own and forget the tutorials and join a newbie corp such as eve uni. You will have a better experience for it. I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |

J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3625
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:06:00 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:Op I feel for you. I remember the first time I did a lvl 4. No one told me that the NPc could scram. Then there was my very first bc - took it unfit into lowsec. Oh and the first time I looked at the ship scanner and said what are these anomalies wrapped to it to check it out and was suddenly blopped from the sky. Every player has been there and every player knows that the new player experience is fairly subpar. But the truth about eve is that none of the real fun in the game comes spoonfed from the dev. In fact eve as a pve game is pretty much crap. What keeps people coming to eve is the meta game - the interactions between players - which you can only really learn and experience from other players. So IMO skip going it on your own and forget the tutorials and join a newbie corp such as eve uni. You will have a better experience for it.
Apart from skipping the tutorials. I fully agree. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
15884
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Posted - 2014.02.05 17:51:00 -
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Hanz Riemannder wrote:Tbh, a lot of you guys really need to take a step back and realise that playing the game for so many years has made you very very biased. As a new player, coming into EVE right now, 7 or 8 years after release (dunno if thats correct), is hard. And if you're not used to sandbox games, it is even harder. Quoting HTFU and all that isn't really helpfull. Quote:GÇ£One cause is a cognitive bias called projection bias. Essentially living inside your own head your entire life makes it exceedingly difficult to understand how others do not also live your same life, think your same thoughts, and hold your same beliefs. In many cases itGÇÖs quite frustrating to try to empathize and understand why you yourself may not be the center of the universe, which generally results in one GÇÿacting outGÇÖ in various ways. So, in short: the internet.GÇ¥ It's considerably easier than it used to be, a lot of us started when the NPE consisted of "here's your ship, there's an NPC, try not to die", also known as "here's a Rubiks Cube, commit a physically impossible sexual act with yourself". Aura used to insult you when you exploded too, happy days.
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Rykane90
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.10 12:31:00 -
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He's entitled to his opinion and there is no problem with that, one thing though I think that your missing is that there is a reason why in that specific mission your are being 'owned'. It is to teach you that you can't fight every fight and that you need to know when you are overwhelmed and out gunned and need to bail out of the situation.
I hope you find time to get back into the game and it will be unforgiving but you learn from your mistakes and become better. |

Just Trent
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.02.10 22:52:00 -
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wow that mission is so easy, you don't have to fight anything, read the mission notes, fly there confirm them dead report back
really if you cant handle a tutorial mission, take a break rethink this game |

J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3650
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:16:00 -
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Just Trent wrote:wow that mission is so easy, you don't have to fight anything, read the mission notes, fly there confirm them dead report back
really if you cant handle a tutorial mission, take a break rethink this game
See. Some people do read and have no problems. Some dont and blame the game. Want to have some chat in game? Need help to get into the game as a new player? Just join my channel: Crazy Dutch Guy |
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Schminto
I Really Hate You Guys
0
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Posted - 2014.02.10 23:45:00 -
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I've only been playing about a week myself, i thought the tut's did a very good job of teaching you how the game works. I tried the game a few years ago, and quit about 30 mins into it. They have done quite a bit to teach you how the game works.
Today i found the beauty of wormholes, so far im down about 300m isk in blown up ships.. Don't fret that 2-3m isk you lost in a tut, it comes easy enough.
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Miriya Zakalwe
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
68
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Posted - 2014.02.11 00:32:00 -
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Schminto wrote:I've only been playing about a week myself, i thought the tut's did a very good job of teaching you how the game works. I tried the game a few years ago, and quit about 30 mins into it. They have done quite a bit to teach you how the game works.
Today i found the beauty of wormholes, so far im down about 300m isk in blown up ships.. Don't fret that 2-3m isk you lost in a tut, it comes easy enough.
You're a week in and you've already YOLO'd 300m ISK? And I though I was bad about burning through the PLEX :)
Perfect attitude, I approve! |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2438
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Posted - 2014.02.11 02:53:00 -
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"don't undock in anything you wouldn't mind seeing blown up" |

Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
124
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Posted - 2014.02.11 03:04:00 -
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If you're that irate about losing a ship you:
1. need to blow up more ships so you get use to it 2. need to go play something else
your choice.
also if it was a tutorial, they clearly tell you your ship is going to blow up and give you a ship to use for it. there are 2 of them. If I remember one is called "Minimizing Your Losses". |

Schminto
I Really Hate You Guys
0
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Posted - 2014.02.11 09:50:00 -
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Miriya Zakalwe wrote:Schminto wrote:I've only been playing about a week myself, i thought the tut's did a very good job of teaching you how the game works. I tried the game a few years ago, and quit about 30 mins into it. They have done quite a bit to teach you how the game works.
Today i found the beauty of wormholes, so far im down about 300m isk in blown up ships.. Don't fret that 2-3m isk you lost in a tut, it comes easy enough.
You're a week in and you've already YOLO'd 300m ISK? And I though I was bad about burning through the PLEX :) Perfect attitude, I approve!
Add another 40.. Just had a local someone or the other come blow my retriever to pieces.
Stop killin meh! |

djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
62
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Posted - 2014.02.11 11:11:00 -
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Vozlov Krovik wrote:
I have absolutely no intention of using Eve Survival. I might as well just watch a lets play on youtube and not even bother playing the damn game. You actually enjoy knowing exactly what to take with you on a mission, knowing exactly what is coming? Yet you're one of those that are telling me to not expect Eve to hold my hand, and that I don't have a tough enough skin for it? Lol, Irony.
Just ... wow. You have friendly people recommending that you actually take a moment to do some basic research on what the hell you are doing versus blindly warping in, exploding, and then filling the forums with e-rage due to your inability to read?
You're gonna do great here, man. |

Madrig Maleonid
VANISHED STARGATE
0
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Posted - 2014.02.11 15:47:00 -
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You're still missing the point man. In real life you are given Intel on the ships that you are pitted against and the weapons they might possibly be using. For most people they enjoy doing the research themselves therefore CCP didn't include it, at least not all of it. If you want to end up warping into a mission blind, by all means don't accept any of the generous help anyone seems to be giving you.
Also, I have an alt that I was completely irresponsible with and hauled 3.6 bill worth of merchandise in an itty mark V and ended up losing it all at a gatecamp. Biggest mistake I have ever made in my whole eve life. But that goes to show that eve still has consequences even to those who have been playing for 6-7 years. Yeah I regret doing it but I learned that's something I won't be doing again any time soon.
Just be glad you lost your free ship to a tutorial... and not 3.6 bill worth of faction mods and ships to a bunch of a-holes waiting for you in the next system.
Also if you look around eve online has the ABSOLUTE WORST tutorial as of any mmo (Google some images of "eve online learning curve". It's a little behind on the release name but it's still accurate to this day) You have to be willing to read what you have to do instead of just assuming what to do next. The fact that you lost your ship is completely your fault for not being prepared regardless of the fact the tutorial did what it was supposed to do. |

Leoric Firesword
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Inc.
8
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Posted - 2014.02.11 15:51:00 -
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Vozlov Krovik wrote:So I've been playing the game, and I've been enjoying it for the most part. The user interface is probably one of the most cluster****ed and downright unintuitive I've ever used, and the fact I have to constantly use google screams the developers really didn't put much thought into accessibility for new players, but I digress.
I've been mining whilst doing the tutorial missions, and have a nice few ships I've been getting to know and getting fitted appropriately.
Then I try a mission where I have to escort a ship of civilians. I go there, they are all dead and out of nowhere a group of enemies start pounding the crap out of me. Ok, I guess I've got to destroy them.
No. My capacitor runs out in seconds trying to repair my shields and hull whilst I scramble trying to figure out why my weapon systems aren't doing anything. Oh, because I have absolutely no chance of destroying these things at all. I'm in a tutorial mission and I'm being attacked by things I have absolutely no chance against. The one line in the mission briefing that alluded to this was...
'If anything seems amiss report back to station'
8 words out of 100 that hint at what the mission is going to go like. When I realised I was in an unwinnable situation I attempted to warp back to my station, getting destroyed in the painfully slow process of warming up my warp engines.
Needless to say I was pissed. A tutorial mission that pits you against people you have no chance of beating. The entire mission consisted of going to a place, and then running away from it. WTF kind of tutorial is that?
So now I'm down my best ship, best modifications and my best weapons and all my ammo. All because of a terrible tutorial mission. Needless to say It's somewhat taken a large chunk out of my interest in the game.
I have nearly 5 million credits, but I'll be spending most of that trying to refit a new ship, so I've literally just wasted the first few days of my trial. TBH I just can't be bothered trying to earn that kinda stuff back at this early stage, so I think I'm out.
/rant.
this isn't WOW, you'll need to learn to read and try again. :) |
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