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Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.04.10 17:24:00 - [31] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Cpt Pugwash VC still did more damage to the gloating Bob yesterday than they have done to all their new enemies combined since mollies gift speach. Do you actually believe that? Seriously do you believe it to be true? From where I'm sat it's just a barefaced lie, no other way to describe it, well actually the delusional ramblings of a mad man would also cover it but rather than believing you are actually clinically not right in the head I'll check out the barefaced lie avenue first. An ornament that hardly ever gets flown in war that probably counts for 0.0001% of our war machine got popped, whilst over the weekend we releived our enemies of over 100 BS and several hundred other craft? You sunshine are living in your own little world. Straight isk value 100 BS say 8 billion + fitting - Insurance maybe 3-4 billion total. How much would you say a Silver Magnate sells for these days?... Probably a little more than it would have before the weekend Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Tashinki	Posted - 2006.04.11 08:16:00 - [32] Originally by: Naverin lol good game. the question is.. were they empty like ours? Don't worry, many outsiders know what was in them ;) Spies ftw. Tashinki signing out
Charles Burger	Posted - 2006.04.11 10:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash How much would you say a Silver Magnate sells for these days?... Probably a little more than it would have before the weekend Before the weekend, 15-20 billion. Now... ??
King Leonidas	Posted - 2006.04.11 14:20:00 - [34] Originally by: Charles Burger Originally by: Cpt Pugwash How much would you say a Silver Magnate sells for these days?... Probably a little more than it would have before the weekend Before the weekend, 15-20 billion. Now... ?? Is that all? Then it's hardly a crippling blow for us. That's a couple of hours work for BoB :\| King
Bozse	Posted - 2006.04.11 14:25:00 - [35] Originally by: Charles Burger Originally by: Cpt Pugwash How much would you say a Silver Magnate sells for these days?... Probably a little more than it would have before the weekend Before the weekend, 15-20 billion. Now... ?? Saw one on escrow for 8b last week wich would translate in to 6,15m / member in BoB if it would have been a collective loss wich it wasn't.
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.04.11 15:45:00 - [36] Originally by: Bozse Originally by: Charles Burger Originally by: Cpt Pugwash How much would you say a Silver Magnate sells for these days?... Probably a little more than it would have before the weekend Before the weekend, 15-20 billion. Now... ?? Saw one on escrow for 8b last week wich would translate in to 6,15m / member in BoB if it would have been a collective loss wich it wasn't. And assuming 1bil/freighter, thats 2.3mil / member in VC if it would have been a collective loss, which is wasn't. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
King Leonidas	Posted - 2006.04.11 15:53:00 - [37] Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: Bozse Originally by: Charles Burger Originally by: Cpt Pugwash How much would you say a Silver Magnate sells for these days?... Probably a little more than it would have before the weekend Before the weekend, 15-20 billion. Now... ?? Saw one on escrow for 8b last week wich would translate in to 6,15m / member in BoB if it would have been a collective loss wich it wasn't. And assuming 1bil/freighter, thats 2.3mil / member in VC if it would have been a collective loss, which is wasn't. We weren't the ones who brought it up, your amazing smaktalking leader did. King
Baun	Posted - 2006.04.11 16:07:00 - [38] Originally by: King Leonidas Originally by: Hllaxiu Originally by: Bozse Originally by: Charles Burger Originally by: Cpt Pugwash How much would you say a Silver Magnate sells for these days?... Probably a little more than it would have before the weekend Before the weekend, 15-20 billion. Now... ?? Saw one on escrow for 8b last week wich would translate in to 6,15m / member in BoB if it would have been a collective loss wich it wasn't. And assuming 1bil/freighter, thats 2.3mil / member in VC if it would have been a collective loss, which is wasn't. We weren't the ones who brought it up, your amazing smaktalking leader did. King The smack is not one sided. At least start smacking each other in character or move to the forum that was created just for smack. The Enemy's Gate is Down
OVERCOPES 1	Posted - 2006.04.12 00:45:00 - [39] Thought this was the in character forum,seems the mods only have the stormtroopers boots on for threads that dont contain BoB posts. Technolisa>those yellow things work better than platinum insurance :P
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.04.12 00:59:00 - [40] Originally by: OVERCOPES 1 Thought this was the in character forum,seems the mods only have the stormtroopers boots on for threads that dont contain BoB posts. Hello fanboi Anyone who focuses on the isk value of the Silver Magnate lost by BoB compared to the massive numbers of ship kills scored against VC (and 'friends') is demonstrating their complete lack of understanding of what it takes to win an alliance vs alliance war. Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. Eve Blacklight Style

Blacklight	Posted - 2006.04.12 01:00:00 - [41] Oh and before some clown sends a galnet message to refute my points. Do you seriously believe that VC et al are winning? Remember, tricks are for kids. Eve Blacklight Style
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.04.12 07:20:00 - [42] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: OVERCOPES 1 Thought this was the in character forum,seems the mods only have the stormtroopers boots on for threads that dont contain BoB posts. Hello fanboi Anyone who focuses on the isk value of the Silver Magnate lost by BoB compared to the massive numbers of ship kills scored against VC (and 'friends') is demonstrating their complete lack of understanding of what it takes to win an alliance vs alliance war. Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. What massive numbers would these be? what reality are you living in? Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.04.12 07:21:00 - [43] Originally by: Blacklight Oh and before some clown sends a galnet message to refute my points. Do you seriously believe that VC et al are winning? Remember, tricks are for kids. My arguement is weak better do something to rescue it. Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
King Leonidas	Posted - 2006.04.12 08:10:00 - [44] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: OVERCOPES 1 Thought this was the in character forum,seems the mods only have the stormtroopers boots on for threads that dont contain BoB posts. Hello fanboi Anyone who focuses on the isk value of the Silver Magnate lost by BoB compared to the massive numbers of ship kills scored against VC (and 'friends') is demonstrating their complete lack of understanding of what it takes to win an alliance vs alliance war. Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. What massive numbers would these be? what reality are you living in? It's understandable that you have no clue what's going on because after all you don't care what the other corps do nor do you even want to be in space anywhere near them as you've said on many occasion. I don't even know how you can bare to be in the same alliance chat as them. So let's give you some straight figures. VC KILLS THIS MONTH SO FAR (approx to allow for marginal error) 1 BS 10 Support BOB KILLS THIS MONTH SO FAR (approx to allow for marginal error) 14 BS 35 Support We're only 10 days into the month and already we have a 14:1 ratio against VC battleships and a 3.5 ratio against support. THAT would be large numbers. King
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.04.12 08:25:00 - [45] Originally by: King Leonidas Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: OVERCOPES 1 Thought this was the in character forum,seems the mods only have the stormtroopers boots on for threads that dont contain BoB posts. Hello fanboi Anyone who focuses on the isk value of the Silver Magnate lost by BoB compared to the massive numbers of ship kills scored against VC (and 'friends') is demonstrating their complete lack of understanding of what it takes to win an alliance vs alliance war. Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. What massive numbers would these be? what reality are you living in? It's understandable that you have no clue what's going on because after all you don't care what the other corps do nor do you even want to be in space anywhere near them as you've said on many occasion. I don't even know how you can bare to be in the same alliance chat as them. So let's give you some straight figures. VC KILLS THIS MONTH SO FAR (approx to allow for marginal error) 1 BS 10 Support BOB KILLS THIS MONTH SO FAR (approx to allow for marginal error) 14 BS 35 Support We're only 10 days into the month and already we have a 14:1 ratio against VC battleships and a 3.5 ratio against support. THAT would be large numbers. King Hardly massive figures as they stand, but when we consider a few facts. You attach hacs to support kills when they are more expensive than battleships There was the strangely timed unfortunate incident when VC TS was hacked Those figures are I assume taken from your killboard which dispite your protests are far from accurate. Bob avoid Reformation because you know it is bad for even your biased figures. All in all hardly the massive figures Blacklight claimed. Why don't you post about your figures for Reformation? I'll help you shall I. Reformation formed 2 months 13 days ago v Bob killed 25 bs Hacs 12 total kills 113 + those kills Bob haven't posted Lost 15 BS 4 Hacs 92 total with nothing further to add Would be more kills but Bob avoid us and we have been hitting Tibal Souls for a while now. Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
King Leonidas	Posted - 2006.04.12 08:40:00 - [46] Edited by: King Leonidas on 12/04/2006 08:43:47 Edited by: King Leonidas on 12/04/2006 08:40:37 Those figures were in the last ten days. 14:1 kill ratio for BS alone against VC. Oh and why are you so scared of putting your whole alliance figures up against our alliance figures? You use one corp against our alliance but won't use your alliance against our alliance? Weak. We don't avoid you, you hide in the ass end of stain or wherever else it is you are hiding now. It sure isn't anywhere near our space or trust me, you're numbers would be a lot worse. Your attempts to make yourself look good only justify our statements! Shall I go ahead and count VC complete kills and losses since RFM formed or not? King
Ashen Brarn	Posted - 2006.04.12 08:46:00 - [47] I will state here that during my time in TRIBE, VC had a threat level approaching that of a blueberry muffin. Whether that has changed or not, I don't know. But I do know that VC is certainly considered by BoB as much less of a threat than a fruity doughy treat. During my time in Delve I have been involved in one (1) fight that would be considered close to even numbers. That was fun, but generally my personal experience with VC can be compared to the Blood Raiders efforts. Ineffectual at best, something to shoot at worst. ---
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.04.12 11:49:00 - [48] Edited by: Hllaxiu on 12/04/2006 11:50:27 Originally by: King Leonidas Those figures were in the last ten days. 14:1 kill ratio for BS alone against VC. Its kind of hard to kill battleships when you don't use battleships. Oh, and everytime I lose a battleship I net 60mil in "profit" because I built the ship with my own minerals from ratting. Every time I buy a HAC, even one we have the BPO of, I lose money on it. To place the monetary value of a Battleship above that of a HAC or command ship is ludicrous. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
TWD	Posted - 2006.04.12 13:31:00 - [49] Edited by: TWD on 12/04/2006 13:32:35 Just to be accurate, below are the stats on our killboard against VC. There are a few kills / losses missing + certain tech2 ships don't show up on the mainpage. I would say that at least 95% of all battleships and hacs are posted. Individual VC corp stats on our killboard shows participations (even 1 frigate pilot of that corp getting on a mail with different people from that alliance) and the losses of that corp - so does not give an accurate view. Kills: 223 battleships, 58 hacs (does not include TAOSP btw) Losses: 60 battleships, 39 hacs Positive HAC killratio ! We say in BoB that if we ever have a positive HAC killratio against any alliance they must be truly bad.
Kryztal	Posted - 2006.04.12 14:43:00 - [50] lol yeah youve got to be bad to lose more hacs then us. Also it costs BoB less to lose a HAC fully T2 kitted then a BS fully T2 kitted. Black Nova Corp Bob(TM) Brand Bleach - Eliminates Every Stain

Baun	Posted - 2006.04.12 15:14:00 - [51] Originally by: Kryztal lol yeah youve got to be bad to lose more hacs then us. Also it costs BoB less to lose a HAC fully T2 kitted then a BS fully T2 kitted. Thats not true for anyone. Even though you build them for alot less than the cost of a BS + fitting instead of losing them you COULD sell them for over 300% profit or so. When you lose them you are losing not only what it costs to build them but also the potential lost profit from selling them. The same thing applies to people who bought HACs a long time ago for cheaper. I for example bought all of my HACs for 75mil or less a LONG time ago. If I lose one I will still lose the full market value because its worth as an asset has increased over time. Anyhow ..... just came out of an econ midterm so I guess I was just in the mood. The Enemy's Gate is Down
King Leonidas	Posted - 2006.04.12 15:50:00 - [52] Edited by: King Leonidas on 12/04/2006 15:51:52 nvm cba arguing economics with someone who has no interest in either side. King
Baun	Posted - 2006.04.12 16:28:00 - [53] Originally by: King Leonidas Edited by: King Leonidas on 12/04/2006 15:51:52 nvm cba arguing economics with someone who has no interest in either side. King err... Well I think what I said is right so if you think I am wrong I would like to know why so I can assess whether I want to alter my thinking on the subject. The one obvious comment is that the corporations might bear the profit loss while the players do not (since they dont own the BPOs), but I can't see how loss isn't present in either case. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.04.12 18:06:00 - [54] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash What massive numbers would these be? what reality are you living in? Dear Capt Stabwash, Congratulations on conveniently ignoring the 'and friends' part of my statement, we are not just fighting your corp and our killboard stats need no defending (thanks for posting the numbers anyway TWD et al) as anyone who wants to see them can check for themselves the pain being inflicted on VC, SA, FA at the moment. If it weren't such a persistant and consistent character trait of yours it would amaze me the distance and effort you'll go to in order to dissassociate your corporation from your own alliance and it's allies. To be honest we can hardly fight your corp anyway because you do everything in your power to avoid us, as our entire history down south has shown e.g. ran from FA when you got spanked and lost Delve, had to actually ask to be allowed out of Period Basis because you couldn't stand the heat when we moved in, abandoned the rest of VC to hide in southern Stain because you were getting smacked about all over the place in Fountain/Aridia etc. Claiming BoB won't fight RFM is utterly laughable. Please continue to draw attention to your total inability to achieve anything in Eve. Eve Blacklight Style
Icomeinpeace	Posted - 2006.04.12 22:08:00 - [55] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash Bob avoid Reformation because you know it is bad for even your biased figures. Wow this is the funniest thing I have read in awhile, thanks.
Cpt Pugwash	Posted - 2006.04.12 22:51:00 - [56] Originally by: Blacklight To be honest we can hardly fight your corp anyway because you do everything in your power to avoid us, as our entire history down south has shown e.g. ran from FA when you got spanked and lost Delve, Are yor lies and untruths never ending? I have never been a member of FA, My first visit to Delve/Querious since it was changed from JK-FIX was after FA had lost it to Bob. and that was only to pass through and attack Period Basis which was then held by Shinra. We did join up with the odd FA fleet attacking Nol but only once or twice. Originally by: Blacklight had to actually ask to be allowed out of Period Basis because you couldn't stand the heat when we moved in, Rubra had already made a move out of Period basis when you moved in and were operating in Stain. We asked for nothing. Originally by: Blacklight Abandoned the rest of VC to hide in southern Stain because you were getting smacked about all over the place in Fountain/Aridia etc. Claiming BoB won't fight RFM is utterly laughable. We left because of a lack of targets, which if your spies are half as good as you would have us believe you would know how much of a problem this is for those corps living in Fountain. Bob left months ago and Xelas won't undock. At no time in our history have Bob smacked Rubra/Reformation about. You have a reputation built from smacking carebears about and great forum warriors. When it comes to fighting an organised pvp force you always have to wash your hair or your roadtrip was over or whatever lame excuse is fotm. Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
Squelch	Posted - 2006.04.12 23:29:00 - [57] Originally by: Blacklight had to actually ask to be allowed out of Period Basis because you couldn't stand the heat when we moved in dmgi and rubra in conquerable stations vs bob? What other possible outcome could there have been? Really?
OVERCOPES 1	Posted - 2006.04.13 02:09:00 - [58] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: OVERCOPES 1 Thought this was the in character forum,seems the mods only have the stormtroopers boots on for threads that dont contain BoB posts. Hello fanboi Anyone who focuses on the isk value of the Silver Magnate lost by BoB compared to the massive numbers of ship kills scored against VC (and 'friends') is demonstrating their complete lack of understanding of what it takes to win an alliance vs alliance war. Silly rabbit, tricks are for kids. Man i love this guy,he truly thinks he's having a succesful life because of computer game. Quality,you couldnt make this up. Technolisa>those yellow things work better than platinum insurance :P
TWD	Posted - 2006.04.13 02:57:00 - [59] Too much attention for an alliance that makes too little difference, and we're all falling for it including me. I sincerely hope that VC one day get their **** together and try to make a difference (action for both sides) - it will not be anytime soon though - it would require an alliance leader who is less delusional and has better qualities than the current one. Good luck.
Blacklight	Posted - 2006.04.13 07:13:00 - [60] Originally by: Cpt Pugwash .... Conveniently focusing on the history of just a portion of your corp again so you don't have to face the facts, you have the most selective perception/memory/reading ability I have ever come across. Eve Blacklight Style



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