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Cara Forelli
Darkstorm Corporation
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Posted - 2014.02.06 15:29:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Issue is...this is 1 out of 2 threads on the front page of "whining' / 'raging' because a new player did not read / did not do any research about what he was going to do and then complains about it.
There's a difference. The other poster didn't bother to read the tutorial and was complaining about one loss.
This OP was destroyed every time he undocked because of an obscure mechanic he didn't understand. How could you expect him to even know Faction Warfare existed without completing the tutorial? I didn't even understand the difference between my pod and an ibis at that point. I imagine there was some kind of warning when he joined the corporation (though I've never joined FW so I don't know for sure). Even then, it's probably not incredibly obvious that npcs are going to aggress you since the focus of faction warfare is on other players.
Imagine if noobs sprung fully formed from J'Poll's head. 
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Tialano Utrigas
Critical Mass Inc.
Nexus Fleet
90
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Posted - 2014.02.06 16:35:00 -
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So let me get this straight, the OP joined the opposite faction to the one he created his character in and the second he got into a ship the Faction Navy removed him from it...
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Miriya Zakalwe
Rifterlings
Point Blank Alliance
63
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Posted - 2014.02.06 17:09:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:J'Poll wrote:Issue is...this is 1 out of 2 threads on the front page of "whining' / 'raging' because a new player did not read / did not do any research about what he was going to do and then complains about it. There's a difference. The other poster didn't bother to read the tutorial and was complaining about one loss. This OP was destroyed every time he undocked because of an obscure mechanic he didn't understand. How could you expect him to even know Faction Warfare existed without completing the tutorial? I didn't even understand the difference between my pod and an ibis at that point. I imagine there was some kind of warning when he joined the corporation (though I've never joined FW so I don't know for sure). Even then, it's probably not incredibly obvious that npcs are going to aggress you since the focus of faction warfare is on other players. Imagine if noobs sprung fully formed from J'Poll's head.
Well, don't forget he was a self described famous Dust player. Reasonable to assume he is familiar with FW, as that's the entire point of Dust with respect to EVE. |
J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
3626
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Posted - 2014.02.06 18:21:00 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:J'Poll wrote:Issue is...this is 1 out of 2 threads on the front page of "whining' / 'raging' because a new player did not read / did not do any research about what he was going to do and then complains about it. There's a difference. The other poster didn't bother to read the tutorial and was complaining about one loss. This OP was destroyed every time he undocked because of an obscure mechanic he didn't understand. How could you expect him to even know Faction Warfare existed without completing the tutorial? I didn't even understand the difference between my pod and an ibis at that point. I imagine there was some kind of warning when he joined the corporation (though I've never joined FW so I don't know for sure). Even then, it's probably not incredibly obvious that npcs are going to aggress you since the focus of faction warfare is on other players. Imagine if noobs sprung fully formed from J'Poll's head.
2 things.
1. He comes from a DUST corp in FW. So isnt it usual that you at least do some reading about it before jumping into it, specially if it is something completely new to you.
2. As you said. He decided to do something without even finishing the tutorials first. Nuff said, usually you finish a tutorial first before doing other stuff just so you know the very basics. If you dont..all fine, but then dont act all surprised if you things happen you have no clue about.
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Allas-Ruii
Beyond New Frontier
4
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Posted - 2014.02.07 04:18:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:J'Poll wrote:Issue is...this is 1 out of 2 threads on the front page of "whining' / 'raging' because a new player did not read / did not do any research about what he was going to do and then complains about it. There's a difference. The other poster didn't bother to read the tutorial and was complaining about one loss. This OP was destroyed every time he undocked because of an obscure mechanic he didn't understand. How could you expect him to even know Faction Warfare existed without completing the tutorial? I didn't even understand the difference between my pod and an ibis at that point. I imagine there was some kind of warning when he joined the corporation (though I've never joined FW so I don't know for sure). Even then, it's probably not incredibly obvious that npcs are going to aggress you since the focus of faction warfare is on other players. Imagine if noobs sprung fully formed from J'Poll's head. 2 things. 1. He comes from a DUST corp in FW. So isnt it usual that you at least do some reading about it before jumping into it, specially if it is something completely new to you. 2. As you said. He decided to do something without even finishing the tutorials first. Nuff said, usually you finish a tutorial first before doing other stuff just so you know the very basics. If you dont..all fine, but then dont act all surprised if you things happen you have no clue about.
Even had he completed the tutorials before joining his DUST corp, the tutorials don't mention Factional warfare mechanics. Plus he did apologize and thanked the people who explained his issue to him. I would lay off him a little. He was nowhere as bad as the guy who was bitching about losing a ship, because he didn't read the mission correctly.
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Qalix
Long Jump.
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Posted - 2014.02.07 04:21:00 -
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I do believe you're the same troll as the previous "enraged" thread. |
Dkeh Weis
Theory Group
66
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Posted - 2014.02.07 14:33:00 -
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Allas-Ruii wrote:He was nowhere as bad as the guy who was bitching about losing a ship, because he didn't read the mission correctly.
That dude was funny, and I thought it was the same guy when I read the thread title. I WAS going to give him a blast of ****, then realized what was going on :P
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J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.02.07 17:19:00 -
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Allas-Ruii wrote:J'Poll wrote:Cara Forelli wrote:J'Poll wrote:Issue is...this is 1 out of 2 threads on the front page of "whining' / 'raging' because a new player did not read / did not do any research about what he was going to do and then complains about it. There's a difference. The other poster didn't bother to read the tutorial and was complaining about one loss. This OP was destroyed every time he undocked because of an obscure mechanic he didn't understand. How could you expect him to even know Faction Warfare existed without completing the tutorial? I didn't even understand the difference between my pod and an ibis at that point. I imagine there was some kind of warning when he joined the corporation (though I've never joined FW so I don't know for sure). Even then, it's probably not incredibly obvious that npcs are going to aggress you since the focus of faction warfare is on other players. Imagine if noobs sprung fully formed from J'Poll's head. 2 things. 1. He comes from a DUST corp in FW. So isnt it usual that you at least do some reading about it before jumping into it, specially if it is something completely new to you. 2. As you said. He decided to do something without even finishing the tutorials first. Nuff said, usually you finish a tutorial first before doing other stuff just so you know the very basics. If you dont..all fine, but then dont act all surprised if you things happen you have no clue about. Even had he completed the tutorials before joining his DUST corp, the tutorials don't mention Factional warfare mechanics. Plus he did apologize and thanked the people who explained his issue to him. I would lay off him a little. He was nowhere as bad as the guy who was bitching about losing a ship, because he didn't read the mission correctly.
Simple and quick.
First link...
Then forth big yellow banner clearly says it.
Dust is for the spoonfeeders.
EVE is for those who don't mind to jump to google.
And I never said he is as bad as the other enraged poster. He is FAR better and I do hope he gets his feet under him in EVE. It's just that he jumped head first into a pool, without checking how deep it is. Then don't find it weird when people tell you that next time you should check the depth first before diving and hurting your head on the bottom.
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