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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.09.15 10:17:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 15/09/2003 10:23:36
This forum i think is passing over, to the reading community, a false picture of goings on in Venal.
This war isnt about Jade, and her specific hatred for Ragnar which has spread to other TTI, or about TTIs leaderships reluctance to do what is right. This war is about the current corps of the NVA, taking a stand against what they believe to be a Corp that are lead by a ego driven coward. One that uses smaller corps trust and loyalty, to ensure he prospers, while safely hidden behind these honest individuals.
He hires Pirates (my ass they are doing it for mutual love) to do his dirty work, he hides behind mall corps (scenites, 999) allowing them to lose ship after ship in the defense of his sorry name.
His spin doctors (tehel and co) virtually reside on this forum, doing nothing but either attacking Jade, or talking smack about facts n figures concering this "war".
Jade can handle herself, and has payed the price for being the most vocal of the NVA members. I personally do not share her hatred for all things TTI.
How should this "war" end?
I think Ragnar should be stripped of his leadership, and TTI handed back to the fair and just members that reside within it.
Low lifes like Mega and the Scenite jockeys, should retire, and take a well earned break.
999 and SI should take a honourable stand, and do what is right. Rejoin the NVA in its new form, and renew the great friendships that were built during the original conflict.
The future of the NVA is secured in its existence, and the coucil will be formed, Venal will be made available to others, despite the misconception born from TTI mouths.
This conflict is unecessary, and a waste of good friendships and good men. That said KIA are tired of the empty and weak threats of a crumbling TTI empire. Venal is our (NVA) space, we own it now, we will ensure it is safe and healthy place for others to use. You (TTi and hired monkeys) are no longer welcome in any way shape or form. Cross that border, and from here on in, we will make it our 1 and only mission to send you back in an egg.
<personal matter>
Scenites, Meester "Mongo (0 skillz) Peck" attacked me yesterday whilst i was farming in a long way off system. At first i thought i was actually in trouble, my shields were down to 70% after only a few seconds, then i relaised that he was actually hitting me weaker than the 50k npc i was farming, and the damage wasincurred whilst idly farming my ickle nulls, at which point I realised that the call for backup I had issued to my comrades, was pointless. He then managed to actually rile me in Local, a feat not yet managed by another pilot, and as such, KIA will be declaring war on your **** porr sorry ass excuse for a corp from tonight. Every corp must be held sanctionable for any members actions. You will be the only war we will fight outside of venal. But apparently Mongo invites such an action, so look forward to feeding your corpses to my dogs on a fairly regular basis.
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This war was never Jade vs TTI, and it still isn't now. Gone are the days when the NVA needed a few hours to assemble a defence fleet. Megas attempts over the past few days, have lead to far far higher losses for them, they Lost 4 BS last night vs a Single NVA Cruiser loss (3 mega BS and 1 TTI BS) and yet they still insist on presenting a pack of lies to both their own side and the watching world. This tactic, is the exact same way they lead KIA to almost destruction, lying to us about actual losses, making us believe we had a chance, that a final push would see us across the victory line. The leadership of TTI, should be ashamed of themselves, and those that are being lead blindly, should trust their inner feeling, and walk away.
See you on the battlefield my friends, and have no fears, the NVA and KIA are united and resolute in our actions.
The VA is dead, well and truly, long live the NVA.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.09.15 10:47:00 -
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I doubt there many people who think or believed that this war was only about Jade vs TTI.
And I have a feeling that you want to have a voice in this PR-war as well seeing Jade does get the spotlight.
Seriously, what was the new point of this post?
I knew about the NVA, I knew about KIA, Jade and her hate for Ragnar and other TTI. I also knew that many have requested TTI leaders to step down.
I dont read these forums that closely, so I take it if I knew this, everyone else would have too.
On SI point I cant say much, personally I wish you all well and I miss the friendly hullo's in local of KIA's on the move :)
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.09.15 11:00:00 -
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Just a couple of comments from 2 non conflict guys in Venal last night, they insinuated that KIA were now fightng a war for JAde, "how is that different from fighting for TTI b4" was their question.
This forum is full of arguments between Jade and TTI. She does an excellent job at defending both herself, and the NVA, but this war isnt being fought "for Jade", this is being fought because we (all the corps in the NVA)believe it is the right thing to do.
As for SI, you were the reason KIA joined VA. Gutted that we now are opposed tbh, but thats the way it is for now at least. xx
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.09.15 11:28:00 -
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who's Jade?
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2003.09.15 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Shakor on 15/09/2003 11:32:00
The human race has reached for the stars, travled milions of light years and found a new home, yet we still struggle to find both truth, lies, humility and peace.
It now seems that people are more content to get what they want through war and say things like, "it's the only way" or "it's what's right" and overlook the fact that the real battle that must be fought is the one for unity and universal freedom.
I am not saying the NVA/KIA are wrong and TTi are right or visa versa, just that there has to be another way. Ask youself this my good man, what are you fighing for? is it wealth or well-being? what is the price of this war? does it cost you and yours more wealth and well-being than is worth?
The same questions are directed at TTi and their fellows in arms too. Who wins in a war? maybe the lucky or the dead....
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.15 12:39:00 -
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I agree and concur with Eddz. This has never been about me vs Taggart. That was a convenient fiction designed by the Taggart Transpiratical propaganda department. They hoped by targeting me with a solicitation to multiple murder they would make it Taggart vs Jade. And thereby declare a conflict they could win.
They regretted RagnarÆs declaration within an hour of making it. But though the Taggart junior executives made all sorts of conciliatory noises and promises about having the assassination contract removed and beginning talks, Ragnar and his senior management were simply not interested in being seen to be so publicly and humiliatingly wrong.
ôApologise Jadeö said one.
ôLet us kill you once and then say sorry Jadeö said another.
ôRagnar over-reacted and let us end thisö said a committee of weaklings.
Over and over I have been asked by Taggart,
ôJade, if we remove the murder contract is the war over?ö
To which my answer has always been the same.
ôNo. Without the murder contract I no longer fighting Taggart for vital self defence, but I am still NVA sworn, and the NVA is sworn to war.ö
The only thing that Taggart would gain from removing the murder solicitation is an appearance of existence beyond mere puppetry for Ragnar and one manÆs lunacy.
In recent days we have seen Taggart making desperate attempts to make independent peace terms and settlements with individual corporations of the NVA. They claim,
ôWe were never at war with you!ö
ôWe never meant you harm!ö
ôWe can make you rich!ö
All lies.
For Taggart is an empire of lies, and their masters the masters of deceit. Hell, even in the cash offered for my killing they lie; to their own hirelings and allies they lie with bald-faced clashing contradictory untruths, they lie with every breath and every passing moment.
A week ago Ragnar increased the bounty offered for my killing to 100m a corpse. This to encourage the piratical allies of Taggart to greater efforts (who had hitherto claimed 5m a body was not sufficient). Now when one of them actually scores a success in this murderous business, suddenly the price is back down to 5m. Words cannot easily describe my derision for this blatant dishonesty in the midst of EveÆs most dishonest corporation.
But to return to Eddz and his statement;
The war was declared by Taggart on those members of the VA who voted against Taggart fifteen days ago. More corporations joined our side because they were disgusted by the treachery in the council chamber.
We made a decision then, and outnumbered, outgunned, out-isked, and outmanoeuvred we decided to fight. To make a stand for what was right. We voted to change Venal and the alliance for good, and we resolved to oppose Taggart dominion and all the falsehoods of their corrupt influence. Since then we have made common cause with dozens of corporations committed to the defeat of Taggart and Ragnar.
The NVA today is not the VA.
Our membership today is bright and vibrant and filled with new hope and possibility. But the NVA is as committed to the war as we were then; surrounded and betrayed by villains, declaring enmity to our foes, swearing oaths to each other to oppose the dying of the light. ItÆs not about me. ItÆs not about any single individual.
ItÆs about what is right
It's about what is wrong
In our hearts we all know what side of the battle lines we should be on.
Love and peace (and death to Ayn Rand)
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.09.15 12:57:00 -
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Dear Jade, if you agreed with Edd, why didn't you leave it at that?
I dont see a need to explain yourself further in a thread where KIA writes that this is a NVA war against TTI (and others) and not Jade vs TTI+extra's.
as for KIA joining VA for SI, who knows? Alliances, sides, NAPS and everything political can change in a day, a minute, in a simple conversation. So chances are we might fight again on the same side, instead of eachother. 
I still wish everyone in NVA well, and I would enjoy working with such great corporations every second, I hope you do so this very moment.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Miso on 15/09/2003 13:01:03
I read all through these posts, and absorbing as they are, the only thing I could think of adding to this all is this:
"my cats breath smells of cat food".
Hope that helps.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:08:00 -
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Dear Jade, if you agreed with Edd, why didn't you leave it at that?
Its called illustrating the point m'dear. And since I'm bored and its lunchtime. Hey sue me!
Love and peace (and regret for the departure of slinky Lianhauns)
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Athule Snanm on 15/09/2003 13:20:56
Something that TTi seems unable to understand is that you cannot be the good guys unless you do good deeds. Spontaneously declaring war on half your allies due to a vote that you won and didn't even argue against apart from threats; allying yourself and fighting side-by-side with the worst scum in the galaxy: neither of these are good deeds.
Putting on the blinkers to this and still seeing yourself as the 'good guys' has seen several of your more prominent members quit to start anew with their own corporations. How many more will you force out with your arrogance when wars can be ended leaving slots for new ones in Empire Space? How many of your miners and industrialists look forward to scuttling to the nearest station every 30 minutes or face destruction? How many of your members are looking forward to mobile refineries, but will never be able to use them even remotely safely outside of core Empire space, if there?
Where is the TTi that claims to avoid unnecessary war? Where is the TTi that claims that negotiation comes first? Where is the TTi that claims it doesn't condone piracy? The answer is it has gone, if indeed it was ever there in the first place. Gone, and any reason replaced with the bloodthirsty whims of trigger happy wanna-be pirates.
I would agree with one thing though, at the moment the war has no clearly defined goal other than the defeat of TTi and the nature of what defeat means remains undefined. It is my personal hope that clear and fair surrender terms can be agreed upon and demanded from TTi. Terms designed to punish the TTi directorate, but sa***uard the personal opinions and properties of their more reasonable members. Let the choice be made - made between the ego of Ragnar and his cronies and the future ability of TTi members to live in peace.
People have asked what good is war for? Well - do not forget that TTi started this war, it was they who declared it and it was they who fired the first shots. It was they who infested Venal with psycopathic pirates and offered them bounties. This war has been forced upon us, but once it reached that stage we can only fight to protect the ideals and principles that we hold dear.
To those who accuse Jericho of making a personal land grab, or of being the leaders of the NVA - well I laugh at any such suggestions. Jericho does not have, nor ever will have the numbers to pursue such a policy. Neither have we block booked multiple unused offices in each station in Venal in order to cut out the competition using unfair practices, such as TTi has done. In fact, despite the huge office shortage in the galaxy Jericho on behalf of the NVA has managed to obtain 4 offices in Venal which will be distributed amongst members of the NVA without offices there. Jericho may be amongst the more vocal members of the NVA, but we are not there to build our own personal empire neither are we seeking domination of corps many times our own size and wealth.
Stavr0s once commented that Jericho makes a lot of noise but has poor combat skills - well let me tell you this, I agree. I agree most wholeheartedly because you can win friends without shooting everyone in sight, without greedily amassing as much ISK as possible and without lying and stabbing your friends in the back. You can make friends with loyalty, with reason, with kindness, with honesty and openness and with the balls to take risks for people who deserve it. People who cannot understand this will never understand the NVA or the Jericho Fraction.
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Paddyman
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:16:00 -
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Can i come in and ask a question or 2 here, ive been listening and listening to this massive war that is suppose to be happenen up there. Ive listen to the hard talk, the treats of wiping each other out, the hatred, the insults......
Q1. Have you anti TTI muppits actually done anything yet, how many BS,Crusiers have u destroyed over the last 2 weeks. Is the TTI money machine been wiped out, or is this going to stay a forum royal rumble. I mean how long does it take for yous to orgainize a damm fleet to inflict resonable losses.
Q2. TTI, you's have also taken the hard line and i propose a question... Does TTI even have guns. 
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:20:00 -
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Dear Jade, if you agreed with Edd, why didn't you leave it at that?
Its called illustrating the point m'dear. And since I'm bored and its lunchtime. Hey sue me!
Love and peace (and regret for the departure of slinky Lianhauns)
Id never sue you, you know that. Id might take you shopping, thats enough punishment , or so people told me.
(i'm delaying going to college)
love, hugs and profit
Lian
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:27:00 -
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Q1. Have you anti TTI muppits actually done anything yet, how many BS,Crusiers have u destroyed over the last 2 weeks. Is the TTI money machine been wiped out, or is this going to stay a forum royal rumble. I mean how long does it take for yous to orgainize a damm fleet to inflict resonable losses.
Short answer is yes, I myself was with a fleet of approximately 25 NVA ships yesterday for the best part of the evening and all night. M3G4 was doing most of the fighting, but at least one TTi Dominix went up in flames before I went to bed. Unlike most (all?) big wars to date one side is based in Empire Space which makes it harder to attack constantly without official wars. We have been assured that this problem will shortly be removed. 
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Q2. TTI, you's have also taken the hard line and i propose a question... Does TTI even have guns.
Yes they do, but not many and they seem very reluctant to use them. I saw about 10-15 M3G4 ships, but the only TTi ship I personally saw for sure was the Dominix that got blown up - the rest were at some mid-warp safe point according to an informant.
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vf142rex
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:42:00 -
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"It was they who infested Venal with psycopathic pirates and offered them bounties."
I just have to counter this point. It was the original VA that infested Venal with pirates. Jericho joined the old VA in full knowledge that they were pirate corporations. You helped fund VA defense (pirate corps) and it is you who is fighting alongside "ex-pirate" corporations that are flying ships, *gasp*, made possible in part by their pirating. Its another case of the pot calling the kettle black.
This is not black and white, right and wrong. Maybe if both sides took a second and acknowledged that the other side might also have a reason to be angry, maybe this war between mainly tree-hugging corps would end.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:43:00 -
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then were bored all over again.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:51:00 -
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vf142rex,
I thought you left?
Have you edited back in the segments of history you placed in public record and then edited out yet?
Your opinion has no weight.
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vf142rex
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Posted - 2003.09.15 13:56:00 -
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Jade, agree or disagree with my point. It wasn't opinion, it was fact. And btw,,,
*retires again*
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.15 14:00:00 -
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"It was they who infested Venal with psycopathic pirates and offered them bounties."
I just have to counter this point. It was the original VA that infested Venal with pirates. Jericho joined the old VA in full knowledge that they were pirate corporations. You helped fund VA defense (pirate corps) and it is you who is fighting alongside "ex-pirate" corporations that are flying ships, *gasp*, made possible in part by their pirating. Its another case of the pot calling the kettle black.
This is not black and white, right and wrong. Maybe if both sides took a second and acknowledged that the other side might also have a reason to be angry, maybe this war between mainly tree-hugging corps would end.
Yes we joined the VA knowing all too well it was populated with pirates. Pirates who stopped and warp scrambled their victims before asking for a toll. Pirates yes, but pirates several notches above your 1.0 loving M3G4 friends.
You yourself have said the key words "'ex-pirate' corporations" - and even these are in the minority. Our pot is a little dirty to be sure, but it's certainly nothing like your own pitch black alliance. No-one claims in all seriousness that any situation is black and white, but that does not mean that there is no right and wrong - no good and evil.
I have no personal animosity towards TTi members, but only TTi can stop the war they started. Never forget who reached for their guns first - or who shot who in the back with their secret threats away from the council chamber prior to the vote.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.15 14:00:00 -
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"fact" from a man who's idea of honest debate is cutting out the pages of the textbooks that disagree with his current argument?
No, I have nothing but derision for this TTI clone.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2003.09.15 14:43:00 -
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What ever the old VA was is irrelevant to most people including most of those in the new NVA. I have not had my ship blown to pieces for a personal crusade. I have fought and will fight for the ideals of the NVA. If those happen to be Jade's personal ideas I really don't know. I do know she has been focused and most diligent in her efforts for the cause. Win or lose I have been honored to fight with KIA, Rona, Jerico and many others
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.15 15:51:00 -
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Space Invanders name has been forever tainted when admitting to orethieving in noob space and it would be unwise to let them back into Venal at this point when the NVA almost achieved what looks like an ounce of credibility.
Convert Stations
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Kasha
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Posted - 2003.09.15 16:23:00 -
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Space Invanders name has been forever tainted when admitting to orethieving in noob space and it would be unwise to let them back into Venal at this point when the NVA almost achieved what looks like an ounce of credibility.
Orethieving in noob space?  Huh??
As for "letting SI back to Venal" I have news for you. If we want to go to Venal,than we will go to Venal. I dont think that we have ever asked anyone for permission to conduct our bussines wherever it may be.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2003.09.15 16:28:00 -
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Is this news to you?
Ask drunkenmaster and he'll get you up to date on these exploits and possibly name the other who explained they had no intentions of hiding their orelifting passtime.
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Jeffor
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Posted - 2003.09.15 16:39:00 -
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T'is a nice litle monolouge "Queen" Jade has with her underlings...
Lemme state one fact we never offer money to pirate corps, if we need a task done we set a price on said task and wait for offers to come in task goes to best offer.
Just as in the real world.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.15 18:08:00 -
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Having never before removed your smug face from the proximity of your own behind m'dear, its a little rich for you to talk about "the real world."
Publishing a solicitation for murder is a crime. Taggart Transpiratical is a criminal organisation.
Clear enough for you?
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Tehel Necrona
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Posted - 2003.09.15 18:33:00 -
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In a time of war, no.
-Necro
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.15 19:10:00 -
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wow, if I had as much wordyness and wind as this jade person this war would be over with blowing hot air at the NVA.
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Cormyat Astara
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Posted - 2003.09.15 20:08:00 -
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If anointing Jade as Queen would irk TTI, then I'm all for it!
Jade for Queen!
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.15 20:16:00 -
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Guys this is a damn "VIDEO GAME", the only cause I have and any of you should have it to make the game fun.
After all if it ain't fun don't play. So BLAH!!! BLAH!! BLAH! ON UUUUUUU
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-QBall
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2003.09.15 20:16:00 -
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"Ask drunkenmaster and he'll get you up to date on these exploits"
There are so many ways to avoid having your ore stolen that only the charge of extreme incompetence and laziness on the part of the miner accounts for having ones ore stolen.
Calling it an exploit is just silly and childish. If we can blow you up and take your stuff, taking your stuff without blowing you up is obviously every bit as legal.
And everyone keeps talking about how TTi hires us to do things - so far, I haven't received a single gun, ship, or isk from TTi for anything. We're pretty self sufficient.
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2003.09.15 20:27:00 -
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I'm having a lot of fun in reading these posts... aren't you QBall ?  |
Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.09.15 21:31:00 -
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Is this news to you?
Ask drunkenmaster and he'll get you up to date on these exploits and possibly name the other who explained they had no intentions of hiding their orelifting passtime.
I have the feeling that your just peeved about the ore stealing because it was your ore which was unsecured.
You remind me of people who complain about being podded when they were afk.
And this was a rather friendly thread about KIA stating that its not Jade vs TTI+extra's but NVA vs TTI+extra's
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.09.15 22:21:00 -
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ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.09.15 22:52:00 -
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I'm getting tired of all this crap. If you want to gangrape TTi, do it then. Don't bore us to death with blah blah while trying to.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.15 23:02:00 -
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ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Captain Carebear
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Posted - 2003.09.16 02:09:00 -
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GIVE PEACE A CHANCE! BURY YOUR HATRED FOR EACH OTHER AND EMBRANCE ONE ANOTHER IN LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP!
Your constant fighting is horrible when we are all brothers of the same creator. I call on all Minmatar, Gallantian, Caldarian and Amarrain to join hands together in the spirit of peace and friendship!
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.09.16 09:40:00 -
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Is this news to you?
Ask drunkenmaster and he'll get you up to date on these exploits and possibly name the other who explained they had no intentions of hiding their orelifting passtime.
/me thrusts pelvis repeatedly
UH! UH!
You rule Danton.
Also, no, it wasn't me that stole the ore, it was my alt. Also, it wasn't even Danton's ore. He only got involved because he thought I should be banned from the game for having 'yarr' as my playername, and wanted to make some idle threats about what he'd do to yarr if they ever met in 0.0 space (ooooh, that's quite a threat) and to appear big and clever in front of some noobs.
And so what if I *did* steal ore. It's not like anyone made any effort to protect the ore in the first place. Any retard can use a set of secure cans. You can't blame me for picking up crap that people throw out. People getting their ore stolen is insignificant. They know the risks, they know the limitations.
As for 'possibly name the other' I haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about. I know Molly has stolen ore in her time, and there may be others. I don't know because, frankly, I don't care.
Anyway, you dragged this thread way off course. Well done. *golf clap*
As for the whole TTi/Jade thing... I'm thouroughly bored with it now. Every single post I see the same crap getting spewed forth by everyone. It's truly nauseating, and no longer entertaining, as it is so predictable.
Also, Hi KIA! :waves: I take it the NVA have reequipped you all now, so good luck in your fights.
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yarr
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Posted - 2003.09.16 09:41:00 -
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Danton.. Get bent, name-hater.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2003.09.16 09:47:00 -
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We re equipped oursleves tbh Drunk, although we did get 20 mill help from the nice guys at BBBB.
We have 6 combat bs now, and 2 more to follow this week. Although i hear the war is pretty much over. Mega taking too many losses, and TTI not willing to foot the bill for replacements + insurance. Same old story unfortunately. Miss you (SI) guys though ;(
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.09.16 10:23:00 -
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Glad to hear it Eddz.
We may fight together again one day. (but don't let the NVA know, they'll boot you ).
Until then, happy trails.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2003.09.16 10:25:00 -
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Nasty EddZ sent us all down the mines :(
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HitGirl
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Posted - 2003.09.16 10:26:00 -
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Nasty EddZ sent us all down the mines :(
Hehe been there done that:P
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smoked
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Posted - 2003.09.16 19:23:00 -
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Jade your so full of crap, you attempted a cou on TTi establishment and I am coming to blow your ass up.
Now lets see one of your drraaaaaaamatic post and please write us an essay again. We enjoy those.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2003.09.16 19:29:00 -
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Jade your so full of crap, you attempted a cou on TTi establishment and I am coming to blow your ass up.
Now lets see one of your drraaaaaaamatic post and please write us an essay again. We enjoy those.
"Taggart Transdimensional, as a corporation, follows the policy of aligning itself with Chaotic Good. Note that this does not mean that every person in the corporation is Chaotic Good, but most are."
"The Chaotic Good person:
* Acts as a rugged individualist.
* Keeps his word to any other good person.
* Never attacks or kills an unarmed foe.
* Never harms an innocent.
* Never tortures for pleasure or information. Threats may be permissible.
* Never kills for pleasure.
* Always tries to help others.
* Distrusts authority.
* Works well in groups, but dislikes confining rules and 'red tape'.
* Never betrays a friend.
"
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.09.17 08:12:00 -
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Jade your so full of crap, you attempted a cou on TTi establishment and I am coming to blow your ass up.
You have to undock from the station first.
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Asimov
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:01:00 -
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You have to undock from the station first.
Quick question for you Miso. Are you even in Venal? Cause if you aren't then how are you supposed to know if smoked is docked or not?
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TMX
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:01:00 -
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Lmao
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Georg
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Posted - 2003.09.17 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Athule Snanm on 15/09/2003 13:20:56
Something that TTi seems unable to understand is that you cannot be the good guys unless you do good deeds. Spontaneously declaring war on half your allies due to a vote that you won and didn't even argue against apart from threats; allying yourself and fighting side-by-side with the worst scum in the galaxy: neither of these are good deeds.
These would be the same scum that Jericho had no problem being allied with in the past? The same scum that you had no intention of getting rid of until for some illogical reason they decided to side with TTI by their choice, not your principles, in your civil war?
You are right that neither are good deeds, but the implication seems to be that Jericho would never engage in the same. For the first, I can't speak: for the second you have done it in the past and I believe would still be doing so if those scum hadn't switched sides of their own violition.
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Athule Snanm
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:05:00 -
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Nope it isn't the same scum. Whenever M3G4 were mentioned as someone to ask for help, and they were, people including myself replied with 'if I see a M3G4 member I'll kill them', 'M3G4 joins us, and we leave the alliance', etc, etc.
Did we support our allies in the VA? Yes we did, no-one's denying that. Were we on friendly terms with piratical members? Yes we were, very much so. Were we entirely comfortable with piracy? No. Did any of us ever recompense people that had been pirated or hit by accident? Yes we did, I can provide names if you want.
The concept of the council is not for any one corp to impose its will on others, but to allow all to have an equal say. Active corporations and those that help each other will naturally gather support in their motions, but they can only do that by their arguments and actions - not by claiming huge numbers, real or not, or by threatening people. Now look at our member list, bear in mind what I have just said and ask again how sincere we are about the current NVA position on piracy. If you don't think JF is sincere then remember for all the talk we are just one vote amongst many.
One thing that has amused me recently is TTi's claims about not having brought in M3G4 to Venal or having paid them. Perhaps M3G4 would like to explain why they have suddenly gained an office in Venal - an office that was not there when we last did a holdings survey in Venal. Or maybe a TTi member could explain this - though I doubt their rank and file members are privvy to all the secret blood pacts made in their name.
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Miso
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:33:00 -
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You have to undock from the station first.
Quick question for you Miso. Are you even in Venal? Cause if you aren't then how are you supposed to know if smoked is docked or not?
Are you his mother or something? Boyfriend?
Everytime I see smoked in local, hes in station. Hiding. Like m3g4 are famous for doing. Answer ur question?
And I was in Obe. But not any more.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.17 13:28:00 -
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Smoked me old mucka!
IÆm afraid I donÆt know what a ôcouö is so canÆt comment on whether I attempted one or not. Is it some sort of variant sex-game? I can see your interest on the grounds of potentially jealously; in that case, I bet Ragnar promised that youÆd be his ôspecial boyö as he bent you over the sofa, non? But life is full of such disappointments.
Or was it the ôSmoked gets smokedö headline in the NVA thread? That was funny you have to admit.
And IÆve been meaning to ask about the 100million bounty Ragnar promised for the bodies. Your man tells me he is only getting 5million (although TTi pledged twenty times as much to the gate camper pirate allies). Tell me truthfully mÆdear, are you keeping the other 95million as M3G4 corp internal taxes?
Go-on babycakes, fess up, I wonÆt tell.
Love and peace (and tumbling hulks of allied taggart battleships)
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.17 13:34:00 -
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Quick question for you Miso. Are you even in Venal? Cause if you aren't then how are you supposed to know if smoked is docked or not?
Ah its the famous mr Asimov!
Seen any "Ravens" lately ?
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Asimov
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Posted - 2003.09.17 23:39:00 -
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Hmmm, I thought I already apologized for that bit of snafu Jade, but if you insist then i'll apologize again if need be. I have no problem admitting when i'm wrong, unlike you.
As a matter of fact there's only been one other person that i've ever known in Eve to be even remotely like you, and that of course would be the all too infamous Hell Gremlin. |
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.17 23:43:00 -
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Who on earth is Hell Gremlin?
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Anla Shok
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:13:00 -
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Who on earth is Hell Gremlin?
if you really dont know him i suggest you read up on history..fast.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:20:00 -
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You may have to explain it to me Anla m'dear, remember, I'm a poor little retail only gal!
Love and peace
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Derek
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:35:00 -
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Yes Hellgremlin is a legend.
He still comes on IRC once and a while though.
Althought i never see Jade on there. Too busy writing posts On the forums probably.
Hellgremlin was much like you Jade only even crazier. He would set up corp wars just so he could write a good RP story on the summit. (endless war anyone? ). The summit was really alive in those days.
Unfortunately he was getting RL threats (no these weren't threats from ragnar before anyone starts screaming) so he went as an alias named Nuts for a while in TOASP and he never came into retail.
You can never really know TTI history until you know Hellgremlin and the original wars that we were a part of. Unfortunately not many people care about the history except maybe that INO thing that always gets brought up again and again.
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Captain Carebear
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Posted - 2003.09.18 02:51:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Carebear on 18/09/2003 02:51:08
PEACE FOR ALL!!!!
Jade and Ragnar need to call a truce in this ghastly affair! War is horrible all the lives destroyed, the property damaged, the hope for peace ruined.
I plead with Jade to call Ragnar and make peace! End the hostilities so both your sides can rejoin in harmony and peace and dance in joy throughout field of flowers!
Peace!!!!!!!
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2003.09.18 03:30:00 -
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mmm Hellgremlin smells nice
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Rocko
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Posted - 2003.09.18 04:31:00 -
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Ah those were the days.....
Engineered Corp wars all for PR.....
A master craftsman pulling the strings behind the scene's.....
Those were the days.....
Lieutenant Commander SOG
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