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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.06 19:13:00 -
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ôChuskarl's Family has declared war on Acrocorp. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.ö
Looks like they are at it again folks. Acrocorp, is a small corp of RL friends and co-workers. We are mostly miners, mission runners, etc. Really, we stick to ourselves and try to cause a problem. Well we get this above mentioned eve-mail and for no reason other than ôwe mined the holy veldsparö. Oh, I guess he means the veldspar that we have been mining for the last 8 months or so. But ChuskarlÆs Grandfather was so kind to let us know if we pay him 300mil that his lord will forgive us for our transgressions against his holy Veldspar or they will return it back to space by blowing up our ships. (Makes me wonder why their god allowed them to have their ships, hypocritical donÆt you think?)
Well, I figure we have a few options:
1.Ignore them and take a brief vacation. (They win)
2.Pay them their 300mil (Rather Die)
3.Break up the Corp and form another (They win)
4.Fight back, might die a lot but at least we will have our self respect. (they win, but we feel better)
I wonder why they have come 20+ jump to pick a fight? How many other corpÆs have folded and paid or have pulled the corp shell game? But unless someone or some group of people stand up to these extortionist and corpÆs of this type, this will continue and you know what, it could be your corp next. So just a warning, Chuskarl's Family have come to Akonoinen (as you might be able to tell from all the can advertisements in the belts and gates) and we hope to take back what belongs to all not just one radical corp.
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.04.06 19:20:00 -
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It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the Tritanium of Veldspar that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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Lil Miner |
gfldex
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Posted - 2006.04.06 19:37:00 -
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Edited by: gfldex on 06/04/2006 19:44:19
Edited by: gfldex on 06/04/2006 19:42:16
A while back ChuskarlÆs Family war deced a small corp that called my mates and me for help. They got 2 counter war decs on them. Two days later all active members of ChuskarlÆs Family where transfered into a new corp. We petitioned them and they got moved back and bound to their original corp. After that day they stayed docked.
I have no high meaning about them but don't even try to fight them back. They war dec small corps since quite some time now and know what they do. You will not be able to hurt them without help of ppl who are used to hunt players.
If you have the isk seek for some mercs and let them deal with ChuskarlÆs Family. If you dont disband your corp as soon as posible.
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Ardent Rellik
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Posted - 2006.04.06 19:39:00 -
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I presume you did not:
Smack-talk them, had a spy in their corp. & ripped them off, killed their ships or ate their porridge?
This is a prime example of why we need a war system overhaul. Chances are your game play is disrupted because bunch of "miscreants" as they call themselves decided to go pound few carebears.
They obviously know you are no threat to them, and they will have soft PVP targets. Good-luck.
Perhaps you should ask for help from a mercenary force, even if you cant pay them allot of ISK, perhaps you can help them in some other way.
If you guys just a bunch miners and manufacturers being targeted solely for the fact that you are industrial corporation and cant defend yourselves properly, then perhaps you should also call on some real PvPrs who like the challenge to come help you.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.06 19:54:00 -
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Edited by: Steve McHorn on 06/04/2006 19:59:03
We have never heard of them until yesterday when we received the war dec and at no time did we disrespect or smack talk even when we were being threatened.
We just want to have fun and play the game on our terms.
Now I will have to agree that war system need some sort of overhaul due to we are going to be forced to look over our shoulder and play a game we did not want at this point. But declaring war on other corps is an important game mechanic that is needed to resolve legitimate disputes, but not grief small corps that only want to make enough to provide for its self.
I appreciate the suggestions and we will see how it goes seeing aggression kickoff starts at 2105 hours.
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.04.06 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Steve McHorn
Well, I figure we have a few options:
1.Ignore them and take a brief vacation. (They win)
2.Pay them their 300mil (Rather Die)
3.Break up the Corp and form another (They win)
4.Fight back, might die a lot but at least we will have our self respect. (they win, but we feel better)
Stop looking at this from a "win/lose" perspective. In stead, see it as a learning opportunity and take the fight to them. I know you didn't ask to be wardecced, and you probably abhor the idea of having to fight but EVE is a game with PvP roots after all.
And who knows, you might actually *gasp* have fun in the process.
Oh and I bet Rells will post here to shamelessly promote his School of PvP. 
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.04.06 19:59:00 -
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They do this all the time... 
They are always declaring the new guys (no offense) and it seriously ****es me off.. Wish i had time to do something about it.
/Mav
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Slink Grinsdikild on 06/04/2006 20:05:17
Another case of online-agoraphobia. Delusional bits are in bold:
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We are not out to get rich, we just want to have fun and play the game on our terms. Now I will have to agree that war system need some sort of overhaul due to we are going to be forced to look over our shoulder and play a game we did not want at this point.
MMOGs are not little private shards for you and your friends to cocoon in and be totally sheltered from the outside world, you will have to interact with other people i'm afraid.
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Proud member of The 99977 - Those unfortunate ones not to make it into The 23. |
nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:06:00 -
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Well at lest is a diffrent excuse than they used to use...they after ISK and easy kills, if you hire mercs they will jump corp (while complaining you did so) etc.
They will most likly have a back up corp to jump to already just incase...
Good luck and I hope you kick their ass from one side space to the other.
They like ALT spies as well so be on the look out for recent corp mbrs...
They been doing this for damm near a year as far as i can tell...
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"I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:09:00 -
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Stop looking at this from a "win/lose" perspective. In stead, see it as a learning opportunity and take the fight to them. I know you didn't ask to be wardecced, and you probably abhor the idea of having to fight but EVE is a game with PvP roots after all.
And who knows, you might actually *gasp* have fun in the process.
Oh and I bet Rells will post here to shamelessly promote his School of PvP.
Believe me, when I signed up I was aware that this game has deep PVP roots. Thats exactly how we are going to look at it, maybe we will come out of this mess a stronger corp, only time will tell.
I just wanted to make people aware that the worst thing that one could do is pay off these people to go away, because they or others like them will come back. I figured I would put it out there so other corps that this might be happening too know they are not alone.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
Edited by: Slink Grinsdikild on 06/04/2006 20:05:17
Another case of online-agoraphobia. Delusional bits are in bold:
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We are not out to get rich, we just want to have fun and play the game on our terms. Now I will have to agree that war system need some sort of overhaul due to we are going to be forced to look over our shoulder and play a game we did not want at this point.
MMOGs are not little private shards for you and your friends to cocoon in and be totally sheltered from the outside world, you will have to interact with other people i'm afraid.
I have no problems interacting with game world or the people in it.
I understand there is a large percentage that like to PvP and I might do so at a different time and I will go into <.5 space and engage in it. But I donÆt know if it is me, but seems like I should have the say if I pvp unless my actions have offended someone or some group. Just seems in these circumstances that it is empire piracy.
Like I said, I will hopefully learn from this and come out even stronger with a new found respect for PVP.
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Ardent Rellik
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:29:00 -
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Since I think that this situation is outrageous, and since I have always felt that this is the reason why so many stay in NPC corporations, I would call on those ardent proponents of NPC disbandment, and obviously adept PVPrs, to come and help Acrocorp.
Also, as a firm believer in the motto of ôSTFU & put your money where your mouth isö û I shall issue a personal and unsecured loan to Acrocorp, in the amount of 50,000,000.00 ISK. This means they can pay it back, when they can, or if they can, or they can refrain from paying it back.
ThatÆs right people, they are completely and utterly a bunch of strangers to me, but this is a principal of things here. And, I also hope to prompt some people into action with this gesture.
Guys at Acrocorp, I shall transmit the ISK to you tonight at 00.00 EVT (+/- couple of hours). At this point, I think the community has to show its face, and either declare in not uncertain terms that what is happening to you is unacceptable, or prove once and for all that we are bunch of Elitist and double-faced liars, and as such really donÆt care about what happens to our neighbours in the game.
Thank you,
Ardent.
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Nephilia
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:30:00 -
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Alright this is what you do:
1. Get some intel on these guys fast...home system, how many members, names of members, age of characters, ships they fly (helps in jamming)..etc. (usually best if done by an alt)
2. Make sure all the names of the enemy corp are entered into your addressbook, and your corpmates as well. this will make them stand out in local and give you a heads up when they log on and off.
3. Organize. There is nothing better that these people like than a solo gank. Blob up, designate tacklers, ECM ships, damage dealers. I tell you they will not be expecting ECM from a bunch of new players, gets them every time. Make a leader of the fleet and if possible get on ventrilo or teamspeak.
4. Go out and attack them. This is big deal, because wars are lost or won by who chooses the battlefield. Don't let them station camp you, camp their station instead.
This is just a few things. You will be surprized how quickly this brings your corp together. Nothing like a good war to get everyones blood pumping. I know your miners and industrialists but even they can have teeth.
Do not give in and they will go away.
I have been in your situation a long time ago and I am glad that we decided to fight back.
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Slink Grinsdikild
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Steve McHorn
I will hopefully learn from this and come out even stronger with a new found respect for PVP.
Good on ya, I know most of them fly Battleships (Grandfather is a Tempest pilot if I remember correctly) and hang out in Derelik sometimes. I see them around Aranir, Dysa etc. quite frequently. But I don't really know them personally. Hope that helps..
Oh, and I kinda went off on a tangent there. 
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danneh
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:37:00 -
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Griefing Alt corp.
Contraband Inc |
Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ardent Rellik
Since I think that this situation is outrageous, and since I have always felt that this is the reason why so many stay in NPC corporations, I would call on those ardent proponents of NPC disbandment, and obviously adept PVPrs, to come and help Acrocorp.
Also, as a firm believer in the motto of ôSTFU & put your money where your mouth isö û I shall issue a personal and unsecured loan to Acrocorp, in the amount of 50,000,000.00 ISK. This means they can pay it back, when they can, or if they can, or they can refrain from paying it back.
ThatÆs right people, they are completely and utterly a bunch of strangers to me, but this is a principal of things here. And, I also hope to prompt some people into action with this gesture.
Guys at Acrocorp, I shall transmit the ISK to you tonight at 00.00 EVT (+/- couple of hours). At this point, I think the community has to show its face, and either declare in not uncertain terms that what is happening to you is unacceptable, or prove once and for all that we are bunch of Elitist and double-faced liars, and as such really donÆt care about what happens to our neighbours in the game.
Thank you,
Ardent.
Thank you for all your support and I hope to keep this thread updated of how it goes.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.06 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild Good on ya, I know most of them fly Battleships (Grandfather is a Tempest pilot if I remember correctly) and hang out in Derelik sometimes. I see them around Aranir, Dysa etc. quite frequently. But I don't really know them personally. Hope that helps..
Oh, and I kinda went off on a tangent there. [:oops:
Thanks for the Intel, we appreciate any that we can get.
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Defender ofCHAOS
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:12:00 -
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Normaly fighting to a enemie is nice, vs them its not, they gank miners and assoon they see you got a gun fitted they run to the station
they also use trial accounts to look for you, to target you in the hoop you fire and get concordockend, to steal your ores if your mining, to sit infront ofyou to interupt your warp
they are good in ganking but not in fair fights as then they get owned, so i think there yust a bunch of alts otherwise they yust crap
if you yust can get some exspierenced pvpers to help you they wil then bail fast enough as they want kils and not losses
forgot the killboards they use but what fits then is that they dont post there losses on there killboard
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Angelique deMornay
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:31:00 -
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I have no qualms about piracy or crime. Wolves are supposed to prey on the sheep, not other wolves. But going out of your way to grief, harass and outright destroy corps and players younger and weaker than yourself, I find that practice questionable at best.
Best of luck to all of you in Acrocorp, I sincerely hope you will prevail.
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cyrra
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:43:00 -
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I will send you an eve mail with the intel i can get again. not sure if i deleted their corp list or not. Another corp in our alliance was war dec'l by them also a few months ago. will see if anybody still has the names and home system info for you all. HTH.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.06 21:58:00 -
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They are a greifer alt corp.
If they get decc'd by anybody who is a threat (read "anybody but a nooby corp") they hole up and play on their mains.
Watch out for alts followed by an easy gank at a belt or somesuch.
They really are everything that is wrong with this game atm.
Looking at your info you are old enough to fight back, I suggest you do it and have fun doing so. It's a mind game and you have to be patient.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:10:00 -
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yeah, we are going to give them hell. Thanks to for all the tips, tricks, advice and intel. If anyone else gets war Dec'ed by them please feel free to contact me or my CEO and we can create a united front against them.
Thanks again,
Steve
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:23:00 -
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If you truly don't wish to fight back, take a break from EVE for a couple of weeks.
It's obvious by now CCP will not fix this broken game mechanic...
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
If you truly don't wish to fight back, take a break from EVE for a couple of weeks.
It's obvious by now CCP will not fix this broken game mechanic...
So regardless of this massive outpouring of support against this lame alt corp, they should just surrender and quit?
[23] Member: Official Forum Warrior
What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Bhaal
If you truly don't wish to fight back, take a break from EVE for a couple of weeks.
It's obvious by now CCP will not fix this broken game mechanic...
So regardless of this massive outpouring of support against this lame alt corp, they should just surrender and quit?
No, just take a break...
It's good to get away from the game from time to time if it gets frustrating due to asshats...
Better solution: Kill the asshats 
[23] Member: Official Forum Warrior
What's with the blue robots? Click my sig.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Bhaal
If you truly don't wish to fight back, take a break from EVE for a couple of weeks.
It's obvious by now CCP will not fix this broken game mechanic...
So regardless of this massive outpouring of support against this lame alt corp, they should just surrender and quit?
No, just take a break...
It's good to get away from the game from time to time if it gets frustrating due to asshats...
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Current Hobby other than EVE
My Hero
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Bhaal
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Bhaal
If you truly don't wish to fight back, take a break from EVE for a couple of weeks.
It's obvious by now CCP will not fix this broken game mechanic...
So regardless of this massive outpouring of support against this lame alt corp, they should just surrender and quit?
No, just take a break...
It's good to get away from the game from time to time if it gets frustrating due to asshats...
Better solution: Kill the asshats
Of course...
But they would not have started this thread if they didn't want to fight...
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.04.06 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kylania
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the Tritanium of Veldspar that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
Always good to quote Dune in situations like this.
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"Ahh, Raven Aure. Your reputation precedes you."
"Uh oh. Which one?" |
Ardent Rellik
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:11:00 -
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Dear Acrocorp members,
I wasnÆt able to get in touch with your CEO in person; understandably, he is busy at the moment. However, I have transferred the promised amount of 50,000,000.00 ISK to his account to support you in this war.
As I stated previously, this is an unsecured loan. You can pay me back at your discretion, and also, understandably, war fortunes being fickle, I do not expect anything in return, or even the repayment.
However, if after your war with the griefing corporation is over and you fare better, should you repay the loan, I pledge to use it in the future to further good causes like yours.
Regards,
Ardent.
Bellow is an image of the ISK transfer:
WIRE TRANSFER
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ardent Rellik
I have transferred the promised amount of 50,000,000.00 ISK to his account to support you in this war.
A crazy man, but a total gentleman. Give that man a quafe!
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"Ahh, Raven Aure. Your reputation precedes you."
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Phelan Boots
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:27:00 -
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As a Dysa native, I can tell you I haven't seen them in our area for some time now. Thats really all the information I could give you though.
GL with the fight.
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ardent Rellik
Dear Acrocorp members,
I wasnÆt able to get in touch with your CEO in person; understandably, he is busy at the moment. However, I have transferred the promised amount of 50,000,000.00 ISK to his account to support you in this war.
As I stated previously, this is an unsecured loan. You can pay me back at your discretion, and also, understandably, war fortunes being fickle, I do not expect anything in return, or even the repayment.
However, if after your war with the griefing corporation is over and you fare better, should you repay the loan, I pledge to use it in the future to further good causes like yours.
Regards,
Ardent.
Bellow is an image of the ISK transfer:
WIRE TRANSFER
True Gentleman.. Gotta love it
You defiantly earned my respect.
/Mav
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Phant Zon
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Posted - 2006.04.06 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Aure
Originally by: Kylania
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the Tritanium of Veldspar that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
Always good to quote Dune in situations like this.
How about
"Bitterness I understand, but let us not rail against justice while weve arms and the strength to use them"
Paraphrasing a bit there, but still, rather appropriate eh?
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.07 00:49:00 -
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Edited by: Steve McHorn on 07/04/2006 00:53:06
Originally by: Ardent Rellik
Dear Acrocorp members,
I wasnÆt able to get in touch with your CEO in person; understandably, he is busy at the moment. However, I have transferred the promised amount of 50,000,000.00 ISK to his account to support you in this war.
As I stated previously, this is an unsecured loan. You can pay me back at your discretion, and also, understandably, war fortunes being fickle, I do not expect anything in return, or even the repayment.
However, if after your war with the griefing corporation is over and you fare better, should you repay the loan, I pledge to use it in the future to further good causes like yours.
Regards,
Ardent.
Bellow is an image of the ISK transfer:
WIRE TRANSFER
First thank you very much or you generous loan, I will get it back to you as soon as possible. They are just camping our station (I know, I know, rule number one, do not get caught in station.) We will learn and hopefully get better, if not, anyone looking for members :P
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.07 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
MMOGs are not little private shards for you and your friends to cocoon in and be totally sheltered from the outside world, you will have to interact with other people i'm afraid.
But are you obligated to interact on their terms?
Can you not see the problem with your own statement?
You're basically saying "don't expect to get your own way": but you ignore the fact that someone else is going to.
It's not "delusional" to say "I pay for the game, I'll play it the way I want to", nor is it delusional to say "no one should force unwanted interaction upon me".
There are plenty of people who are willing to participate in that sort of interaction, to ignore them and target instead those who aren't smacks of cowardice and a mean spirit. It's bad when some people can't even be sporting in a game.
I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I couldn't care less what you think of me - all that matters is this: Can you defend your opinions? |
Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.07 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: Steve McHorn
Edited by: Steve McHorn on 07/04/2006 00:53:06
Originally by: Ardent Rellik
Dear Acrocorp members,
I wasnÆt able to get in touch with your CEO in person; understandably, he is busy at the moment. However, I have transferred the promised amount of 50,000,000.00 ISK to his account to support you in this war.
As I stated previously, this is an unsecured loan. You can pay me back at your discretion, and also, understandably, war fortunes being fickle, I do not expect anything in return, or even the repayment.
However, if after your war with the griefing corporation is over and you fare better, should you repay the loan, I pledge to use it in the future to further good causes like yours.
Regards,
Ardent.
Bellow is an image of the ISK transfer:
WIRE TRANSFER
First thank you very much or you generous loan, I will get it back to you as soon as possible. They are just camping our station (I know, I know, rule number one, do not get caught in station.) We will learn and hopefully get better, if not, anyone looking for members :P
Hole up in Oueletta if you like. 60-70% of our corp are now outlaws but we can set you to positive so you dont get shot.
If Chuskarls come into local we get to shoot expensive ships piloted by eternal noobs.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.07 16:44:00 -
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Deja,
We might take you up on that offer, but for now we are trying to get a feel for force size and strength. Seems they have a crap load of alts buzzing around in system and we are pretty sure we have a spy among one of our new recruits which needs to be sorted out.
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BlackHole Bob
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Posted - 2006.04.07 21:49:00 -
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Join and alliance...pump there war bill to 50 mill a week...they go away for good...
Blackhole Bob
www.evegathering.com
Las Vegas EvE Gathering 2006, 2007
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:10:00 -
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If my new main was more developed, I would lend you the guns of Shadowlord, my flagship.
Good luck, beat those silly alts back into the Cruiser Age.
~Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
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Sanctus Maleficus
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Corunna ElMan
Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
MMOGs are not little private shards for you and your friends to cocoon in and be totally sheltered from the outside world, you will have to interact with other people i'm afraid.
But are you obligated to interact on their terms?
Can you not see the problem with your own statement?
You're basically saying "don't expect to get your own way": but you ignore the fact that someone else is going to.
It's not "delusional" to say "I pay for the game, I'll play it the way I want to", nor is it delusional to say "no one should force unwanted interaction upon me".
There are plenty of people who are willing to participate in that sort of interaction, to ignore them and target instead those who aren't smacks of cowardice and a mean spirit. It's bad when some people can't even be sporting in a game.
I would say this line of thinking shows you (and the others that share it) are either one, unfamiliar with PVP MMO's or are playing the wrong game.
I think one, far to many of you are looking at this from completely the wrong perspective. Eve is about immersion. The fact that you CAN do something like this in Eve is what makes this game amazing. Have any of you seen the movie Seven Samurai? Its about a small town in Japan that is going to be raided by bandits. So, the town hired its seven samurai to defend the city. But shame on those bandits for their "griefing" :-P. Pretty much the same thing here. A cowardly corp declares war on a defenseless mining corp in hopes of extorting ISK out of them. Its an age old trick. They made their plea, and someone helped them out with a sizable donation. I don't see anything wrong witht he game mechanics here, and infact, I think this is proof that its working the way it should.
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Missile Spammer
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:04:00 -
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cheap tricks but mining the holy veldspar is hilarious :P
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:34:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Better solution: Kill the asshats
As you cant blow up stations nobody will be able to kill them after they learned that their pray got teeth.
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$ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.08 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sanctus Maleficus
I would say this line of thinking shows you (and the others that share it) are either one, unfamiliar with PVP MMO's or are playing the wrong game.
You still aren't getting the point... you don't tell me how to play my game. I'm enjoying it just fine and I don't feel I have to validate my playstyle to meet your preferences. It's only "wrong" to you (and those who share your view), but you are immaterial to me.
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Have any of you seen the movie Seven Samurai?
Samurai would understand the concept of fair play. Samurai don't prey on the weak.
(Yes I know that's not your point, but let's be honest - it doesn't really compare).
I'm not here to win any popularity contests. I couldn't care less what you think of me - all that matters is this: Can you defend your opinions? |
Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.08 04:30:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Sanctus Maleficus
Originally by: Corunna ElMan
Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
MMOGs are not little private shards for you and your friends to cocoon in and be totally sheltered from the outside world, you will have to interact with other people i'm afraid.
But are you obligated to interact on their terms?
Can you not see the problem with your own statement?
You're basically saying "don't expect to get your own way": but you ignore the fact that someone else is going to.
It's not "delusional" to say "I pay for the game, I'll play it the way I want to", nor is it delusional to say "no one should force unwanted interaction upon me".
There are plenty of people who are willing to participate in that sort of interaction, to ignore them and target instead those who aren't smacks of cowardice and a mean spirit. It's bad when some people can't even be sporting in a game.
I would say this line of thinking shows you (and the others that share it) are either one, unfamiliar with PVP MMO's or are playing the wrong game.
The game is not solely about PVP. There is something for everyone to do. If want to do PVP you go into <.5 space and become a pirate or a merc. If you want to become a miner, you have the freedom to do so. If this was solely a PVP game, then they would not have Concord and empire space. In a perfect game, it would be all PVP and there would be no need for Concord, because the player community would not stand for this crap and would kick there behinds back to their god forsaken system.
If you do not do anything to anyone and you talk and respect everyone that you come in contact with like you would have done to yourself, then you should not have anything to fear. But your right something is broke....and I think it seems to be the players. At what point did it become ok for this type of actions to take place? To be honest, we have had are butts handed to us in the last 2 days. Unfortunately, if things seem to continue in the current manner, we are going to have to take the road most traveled, roll over. We are up against a superior force with larger resources that know how to coordinate and attack and frankly, seem to have more time on their hands than I do or my corpmates. If this was a mining Op, I would probably kick their ars's when it came to gathering ore. Oh, thatÆs right; this is what this is supposedly about, us mining ore.
There has been people that have came along and offered money and moral support and we are grateful and appreciative of them and will repay the money. But until the community joins together as a whole and resolves issues like this, all the money and suggestions are for nothing. Because soon as we figure out how to get out of this mess it will jump to the next Acrocorp and they will be faced with same situation that we and other corps that have contacted me have faced.
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.08 08:15:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Steve McHorn
Edited by: Steve McHorn on 08/04/2006 04:38:52
Originally by: Sanctus Maleficus
Originally by: Corunna ElMan
Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
MMOGs are not little private shards for you and your friends to cocoon in and be totally sheltered from the outside world, you will have to interact with other people i'm afraid.
But are you obligated to interact on their terms?
Can you not see the problem with your own statement?
You're basically saying "don't expect to get your own way": but you ignore the fact that someone else is going to.
It's not "delusional" to say "I pay for the game, I'll play it the way I want to", nor is it delusional to say "no one should force unwanted interaction upon me".
There are plenty of people who are willing to participate in that sort of interaction, to ignore them and target instead those who aren't smacks of cowardice and a mean spirit. It's bad when some people can't even be sporting in a game.
I would say this line of thinking shows you (and the others that share it) are either one, unfamiliar with PVP MMO's or are playing the wrong game.
The game is not solely about PVP. There is something for everyone to do. If want to do PVP you go into <.5 space and become a pirate or a merc. If you want to become a miner, you have the freedom to do so. If this was solely a PVP game, then they would not have Concord and empire space. In a perfect game, it would be all PVP and there would be no need for Concord, because the player community would not stand for this crap and would kick there behinds back to their god forsaken system.
If you do not do anything to anyone and you talk and respect everyone that you come in contact with like you would have done to yourself, then you should not have anything to fear. But your right something is broke....and I think it seems to be the players. At what point did it become ok for this type of actions to take place? To be honest, we have had are butts handed to us in the last 2 days. Unfortunately, if things seem to continue in the current manner, we are going to have to take the road most traveled, roll over. We are up against a superior force with larger resources that know how to coordinate and attack and frankly, seem to have more time on their hands than I do or my corpmates. If this was a mining Op, I would probably kick their ars's when it came to gathering ore. Oh, thatÆs right; this is what this is supposedly about, us mining ore.
There has been people that have came along and offered money and moral support and we are grateful and appreciative of them and will repay the money. But until the community joins together as a whole and resolves issues like this, all the money and suggestions are for nothing. Because soon as we figure out how to get out of this mess it will jump to the next Acrocorp and they will be faced with same situation that we and other corps that have contacted me have faced.
~Overlord Eximius Josari
Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Industrial Giants |
Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.08 08:17:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Steve McHorn
Edited by: Steve McHorn on 08/04/2006 04:38:52
Originally by: Sanctus Maleficus
Originally by: Corunna ElMan
Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild
MMOGs are not little private shards for you and your friends to cocoon in and be totally sheltered from the outside world, you will have to interact with other people i'm afraid.
But are you obligated to interact on their terms?
Can you not see the problem with your own statement?
You're basically saying "don't expect to get your own way": but you ignore the fact that someone else is going to.
It's not "delusional" to say "I pay for the game, I'll play it the way I want to", nor is it delusional to say "no one should force unwanted interaction upon me".
There are plenty of people who are willing to participate in that sort of interaction, to ignore them and target instead those who aren't smacks of cowardice and a mean spirit. It's bad when some people can't even be sporting in a game.
I would say this line of thinking shows you (and the others that share it) are either one, unfamiliar with PVP MMO's or are playing the wrong game.
The game is not solely about PVP. There is something for everyone to do. If want to do PVP you go into <.5 space and become a pirate or a merc. If you want to become a miner, you have the freedom to do so. If this was solely a PVP game, then they would not have Concord and empire space. In a perfect game, it would be all PVP and there would be no need for Concord, because the player community would not stand for this crap and would kick there behinds back to their god forsaken system.
If you do not do anything to anyone and you talk and respect everyone that you come in contact with like you would have done to yourself, then you should not have anything to fear. But your right something is broke....and I think it seems to be the players. At what point did it become ok for this type of actions to take place? To be honest, we have had are butts handed to us in the last 2 days. Unfortunately, if things seem to continue in the current manner, we are going to have to take the road most traveled, roll over. We are up against a superior force with larger resources that know how to coordinate and attack and frankly, seem to have more time on their hands than I do or my corpmates. If this was a mining Op, I would probably kick their ars's when it came to gathering ore. Oh, thatÆs right; this is what this is supposedly about, us mining ore.
There has been people that have came along and offered money and moral support and we are grateful and appreciative of them and will repay the money. But until the community joins together as a whole and resolves issues like this, all the money and suggestions are for nothing. Because soon as we figure out how to get out of this mess it will jump to the next Acrocorp and they will be faced with same situation that we and other corps that have contacted me have faced.
Your corp is far from being unique to this problem. Some corps fold up and die, some corps fight back and become much stronger because of it.
Don't hide your head in the sand just because the rhino wants to play rough.
Your decision now will affect what you and your corp will be this time next month. So make that decision...strength or weakness.
Then make it so.
~Overlord Eximius Josari
Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
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Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.04.08 08:33:00 -
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CCP should at least have some sort of gameplay mechanic that'll go against griefing alt corps at least. This is practically hurting the less-Pvp-ish/newbie/industrialist players from coming into EVE. This is a serious problem even if it's just small-time corps vs small-time alt-griefing corps. This could discourage newcomers into EVE, and even moreso, the industrialist-style players, which, btw, are quite largely responsible for our PLAYER based market.
I left Linage 2 because of people abusing the fact that you can still PK newbies in their starting towns with little to no provocation at all, if at ever. Doesnt this fall under harrassment? I think it does, no matter how you look at it.
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.08 09:56:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Eximius Josari on 08/04/2006 09:56:53
Originally by: Michiyo Daishi
CCP should at least have some sort of gameplay mechanic that'll go against griefing alt corps at least. This is practically hurting the less-Pvp-ish/newbie/industrialist players from coming into EVE.
While I sympathize, I don't see this as something negative for the 'victim' corp. This is an opportunity to learn something about the game they normally wouldn't be exposed to. You could say its simply pushing you into the pool rather than waiting for you to creep down the steps.
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This is a serious problem even if it's just small-time corps vs small-time alt-griefing corps. This could discourage newcomers into EVE, and even moreso, the industrialist-style players, which, btw, are quite largely responsible for our PLAYER based market.
You are right that much of the player based economy is driven by those of a noncombatant mindset...but the vast majority of them dont seem to value their time much since their prices leave no margins for profits. And since they place so little value in their time, how would it cost them anything to spend time doing something different? Something they might even enjoy.
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I left Linage 2 because of people abusing the fact that you can still PK newbies in their starting towns with little to no provocation at all, if at ever. Doesnt this fall under harrassment? I think it does, no matter how you look at it.
Sure it is harassment, but the game is designed to let in character harassment flourish. How you choose to deal with it is a reflection of your character. What would you want to see in the mirror?
~Overlord Eximius Josari
Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:16:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Michiyo Daishi
CCP should at least have some sort of gameplay mechanic that'll go against griefing alt corps at least. This is practically hurting the less-Pvp-ish/newbie/industrialist players from coming into EVE. This is a serious problem even if it's just small-time corps vs small-time alt-griefing corps. This could discourage newcomers into EVE, and even moreso, the industrialist-style players, which, btw, are quite largely responsible for our PLAYER based market.
I left Linage 2 because of people abusing the fact that you can still PK newbies in their starting towns with little to no provocation at all, if at ever. Doesnt this fall under harrassment? I think it does, no matter how you look at it.
No.
If you cant hack it then join a corp that can.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:25:00 -
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Quote:
You are right that much of the player based economy is driven by those of a noncombatant mindset...but the vast majority of them dont seem to value their time much since their prices leave no margins for profits. And since they place so little value in their time, how would it cost them anything to spend time doing something different? Something they might even enjoy.
I really don't know what to say. Am i being told we should accept this until we like it? You seem very PVP minded and I respect that, but what if someone told you that you had to do nothing but mine, or haul items from one station to another all the time you wanted to play, and you never know, you might like it.
Maybe people are misunderstating me. I am not tryinig to come across like I am crying because we are under seige. I am trying to bring to light that there is a minority of players that take advantage of corps that are really not equiped to defend themselves against an organized gank squads.
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Michiyo Daishi
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris
No.
If you cant hack it then join a corp that can.
what if there is no corp willing to take you in? Ever thought of that. Complete isolation due to the circumstances of EVE. It can happen, such is the randomness of life, both in game and RL.
We all know that EVE is a game that favors numbers, but what if you cant be one of the said numbers to survive?
Its true that some people are more PvP-inclined than others. Some dont even consider PvP and yet play EVE. EVE has something for all kinds, and sadly, thats its greatest weakness as well, since someone can just come and wtfpwn you with a ganksquad when you're not prepared/expecting it. What if you're that newbie who just wandered into his/her first 0.4 and just so happened to walk right into one? How would you consider that kind of experience of just being player killed, without even being able to muster a fight?
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Dario Wall
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Posted - 2006.04.08 11:47:00 -
[52]
I would lend you a hand, but I'm already a little occupied at the moment. But good luck with everything.
Originally by: Michiyo Daishi
I left Linage 2 because of people abusing the fact that you can still PK newbies in their starting towns with little to no provocation at all, if at ever. Doesnt this fall under harrassment? I think it does, no matter how you look at it.
I still remember going to Talking Island and seeing about 20 people on each exit to the town, with the guards dead. Ended up having maybe 100 people total sitting in the middle of town waiting for the PKers to leave. Made for a nice marketplace though...
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.08 13:09:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Michiyo Daishi
Originally by: Deja Thoris
No.
If you cant hack it then join a corp that can.
what if there is no corp willing to take you in? Ever thought of that. Complete isolation due to the circumstances of EVE. It can happen, such is the randomness of life, both in game and RL.
Then an npc corp.
If your life is plagued by such vagaries and randomness a wardec in an online game would hardly be a concern since you wouldnt be round much would you?
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.04.08 19:46:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Steve McHorn
Quote:
You are right that much of the player based economy is driven by those of a noncombatant mindset...but the vast majority of them dont seem to value their time much since their prices leave no margins for profits. And since they place so little value in their time, how would it cost them anything to spend time doing something different? Something they might even enjoy.
I really don't know what to say. Am i being told we should accept this until we like it? You seem very PVP minded and I respect that, but what if someone told you that you had to do nothing but mine, or haul items from one station to another all the time you wanted to play, and you never know, you might like it.
Maybe people are misunderstating me. I am not tryinig to come across like I am crying because we are under seige. I am trying to bring to light that there is a minority of players that take advantage of corps that are really not equiped to defend themselves against an organized gank squads.
The first corporation I ever made was just like yours. PlanetCorp Industries. Being industrialists we didn't pay all that much attention to killing anything but the npcs. After a couple weeks we decided low security was more profitable, and after some time we moved to Tartatven constellation. For awhile things went just fine then one day when we were mining (I was guarding the op in a Rupture lol) someone from a s d f (pirate corp) attacked us in a Gryphon. Now that doesnt seem like much, but he was a scout. A Raven came later. Anyway, we hauled ass back to our Republic Fleet station and sat there while being very annoyed at being attacked.
After awhile we decided to get involved with the locals and offer our help in what little capacity we could. So we joined the RP group called People's Republic of Minmatar, PRM (before ingame alliances). So PCI with its small fleet of cruisers participated in the defense of Tartatven against the first organized pirate corporation I experienced. Sneaky Magik Inc. This was back when Cruisers could use Torps, so we did make a dent at times. I remember fighting Fugazii's Cruise Rifter in a Bellicose lol...and forcing him to run :p.
My point is, things will happen in Eve much like they will happen in life. The only thing you have absolute control over is how you handle it. You can embrace it as the new experience it is...or whine and mope over your party being crashed.
I agree that wars from alt corps with bored mains is a bit annoying and silly. But **** happens man. You learn to adapt or you die...that's the way things work in and out of Eve.
~Overlord Eximius Josari
Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Industrial Giants |
Hinterwaeldler
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Posted - 2006.04.09 22:10:00 -
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Quote:
Hinterwaeldler > wow, you managed to kill a less than a week old char with your interceptor
Hinterwaeldler > that's quite impressive
Chuskarl's Grandfather must be very sensitive to comments about the relations in which they chose to fight, for after this comment I received this chat message from the old man:
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Hinterwaeldler > hi
Chuskarl's Grandfather > wow, you managed to win a war for your corp in less than a minute
Chuskarl's Grandfather > Option [1] (your vote), Declare war against Eve guardians
Chuskarl's Grandfather > that's quite impressive
Today they actually declared war on us. We are neither miners nor carebears, we are looking forward to gain experience in a war that will glue our corp closer together. In 24 hours we will join our new friends at acrocorp in a war to rid Lonetrek of the Chuskarl's.
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Nikita Fontaine
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Posted - 2006.04.10 01:24:00 -
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Yeah they are renowned for war deccing 'easy' targets, but Ive heard often they are pretty crap pvp'ers so just get some crusiers (insure them) and have some fun, if your not confident that your skills are up to standard you can always bring a few jamming ships along to give you the upper hand :s good luck!
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Great minds think alike but fools seldom differ
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Mi Lai
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Posted - 2006.04.10 03:16:00 -
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Feel free to contact me in game if you want some tips on how to fight with very low combat skillpoints.
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gfldex
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Posted - 2006.04.10 07:18:00 -
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Steve McHorn > The game is not solely about PVP.
And I tought the devs would becide what the game is about. Looks like I was wrong.
Steve McHorn > There is something for everyone to do. If want to do PVP you go into <.5 space and become a pirate or a merc.
So you come here to whine about a war dec and then you got the *beep*ing nerve to delare that PvP cant happen in > 0.4 ?
Steve McHorn > If you want to become a miner, you have the freedom to do so. If this was solely a PVP game, then they would not have Concord and empire space.
Steve McHorn > In a perfect game, it would be all PVP and there would be no need for Concord, because the player community would not stand for this crap and would kick there behinds back to their god forsaken system.
That's how it was in the beginning. No CONCORD and no sentries. The idea was that ppl would come together to form up a militia to protect themselfes. Those who came togethere were mOo and they terrorized the whole empire and nobody could overwhelm them. The devs had to learn that most ppl are bad players and need at least some kind of protection. But they never felt happy about save space. So ~2 years later we got the option to declare empire wars. It was absolutely clear what will happen (same with jet can flagging). Some players play the game better then others and force them to disband thier corps.
Steve McHorn > If you do not do anything to anyone and you talk and respect everyone that you come in contact with like you would have done to yourself, then you should not have anything to fear. But your right something is broke....and I think it seems to be the players. At what point did it become ok for this type of actions to take place?
When the devs decide it is a good idea.
Steve McHorn > But until the community joins together as a whole and resolves issues like this
The community allready comes together and forms huge alliance. Guess what they do? They declare war on each other.
All what I have read about you comes down to: Somebody else should come and solve my problems.
It's a shame that ppl like you are allowed to be a CEO.
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$ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Alaesa
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Posted - 2006.04.10 09:31:00 -
[59]
ah I remember chuskarls nubtards.
bigest bunch of lame alt griefers out there.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.10 14:32:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Steve McHorn on 10/04/2006 14:35:00
Originally by: gfldex
Steve McHorn > The game is not solely about PVP.
And I tought the devs would becide what the game is about. Looks like I was wrong.
Steve McHorn > There is something for everyone to do. If want to do PVP you go into <.5 space and become a pirate or a merc.
So you come here to whine about a war dec and then you got the *beep*ing nerve to delare that PvP cant happen in > 0.4 ?
Steve McHorn > If you want to become a miner, you have the freedom to do so. If this was solely a PVP game, then they would not have Concord and empire space.
Steve McHorn > In a perfect game, it would be all PVP and there would be no need for Concord, because the player community would not stand for this crap and would kick there behinds back to their god forsaken system.
That's how it was in the beginning. No CONCORD and no sentries. The idea was that ppl would come together to form up a militia to protect themselfes. Those who came togethere were mOo and they terrorized the whole empire and nobody could overwhelm them. The devs had to learn that most ppl are bad players and need at least some kind of protection. But they never felt happy about save space. So ~2 years later we got the option to declare empire wars. It was absolutely clear what will happen (same with jet can flagging). Some players play the game better then others and force them to disband thier corps.
Steve McHorn > If you do not do anything to anyone and you talk and respect everyone that you come in contact with like you would have done to yourself, then you should not have anything to fear. But your right something is broke....and I think it seems to be the players. At what point did it become ok for this type of actions to take place?
When the devs decide it is a good idea.
Steve McHorn > But until the community joins together as a whole and resolves issues like this
The community allready comes together and forms huge alliance. Guess what they do? They declare war on each other.
All what I have read about you comes down to: Somebody else should come and solve my problems.
It's a shame that ppl like you are allowed to be a CEO.
I am not the CEO and we are starting to get the hang of how to fight this. Never asked for someone to come fight our fight, we didn't know how to even start but we are coming along. When its not 10 on 1 matchup's, I would say it's almost fun.
As we trudge along through this, I have found you can wage all kinds of warfare to combat things like this. You can deny them combat by hanging in a station, you can run them all over the gallaxy chasing after you, and when you get actual matchups that are favorable, then you engage with conventional combat. You might not agree, but my forum post was another form of warfare, it's a battle of public relations.
Again I would like to thank everyone for the feedback, tips, and intel.
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.04.10 14:41:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Twilight Moon on 10/04/2006 14:42:40
I dont suppose you happen to mine the "Holy Veldspar" in 0.4 and below space do you?
If you do I know a few people who may well be very willing to have a shot at any large fleet of ships for kicks.....as long as they have decent mods fitted. 
Oh....Lonetrek....thats a bit of a journey. Still, I'll mention it to them.
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Corunna ElMan
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Posted - 2006.04.10 17:57:00 -
[62]
Originally by: gfldex
It's a shame that ppl like you are allowed to be a CEO.
And it's a shame that your mommy never taught you how to be a good sport when you play a game. See my sig...
It's not that you're 'roleplaying a jerk'... it's a matter of typecasting. |
gfldex
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Posted - 2006.04.10 19:16:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Steve McHorn
You might not agree, but my forum post was another form of warfare, it's a battle of public relations.
I will agree with you when you quote one post of yours where you don't complain about the game we play. Even if you find a smart term for your complains it stays forum whining.
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$ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.11 03:40:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Twilight Moon
Edited by: Twilight Moon on 10/04/2006 14:42:40
I dont suppose you happen to mine the "Holy Veldspar" in 0.4 and below space do you?
If you do I know a few people who may well be very willing to have a shot at any large fleet of ships for kicks.....as long as they have decent mods fitted.
Oh....Lonetrek....thats a bit of a journey. Still, I'll mention it to them.
thanks for the offer, but we have things under control finally (for now). The people that said that we might like it, well they were correct. It was just a matter of getting over the shock of first few days when they wiped us up and figuring out how to fight back as a group.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.11 13:16:00 -
[65]
How can we speed up the rate of which we lock pods or be able to pod them without getting a lock? Pirate, Jedi tricks would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Mobile Oak
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Posted - 2006.04.11 13:24:00 -
[66]
There's a skill under Electronics that will increase your targetting speed. I think its called Target Signature Analysis. Additionally if you're in a gang, there are Leadership skills that will improve everyone's rate of acquiring a lock.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.11 21:52:00 -
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Yeah, I have it up to lvl3 already. Guess the only way to maybe do it is suicide with a smartbomb. I have no hope of targeting a capsule with a battleship before they warp away.
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BoneEater
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Posted - 2006.04.12 11:18:00 -
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Edited by: BoneEater on 12/04/2006 11:18:01
for podding, a frig with a good skilled char or sensor booster (or even sig amps) proved well |
monkeyking1
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Posted - 2006.04.13 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Well at lest is a diffrent excuse than they used to use...they after ISK and easy kills, if you hire mercs they will jump corp (while complaining you did so) etc.
They will most likly have a back up corp to jump to already just incase...
Good luck and I hope you kick their ass from one side space to the other.
They like ALT spies as well so be on the look out for recent corp mbrs...
They been doing this for damm near a year as far as i can tell...
/me waves
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DanMck
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Posted - 2006.04.13 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: monkeyking1
Originally by: nahtoh
Well at lest is a diffrent excuse than they used to use...they after ISK and easy kills, if you hire mercs they will jump corp (while complaining you did so) etc.
They will most likly have a back up corp to jump to already just incase...
Good luck and I hope you kick their ass from one side space to the other.
They like ALT spies as well so be on the look out for recent corp mbrs...
They been doing this for damm near a year as far as i can tell...
/me waves
reminds me of last year......
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monkeyking1
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Posted - 2006.04.13 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: DanMck
Originally by: monkeyking1
Originally by: nahtoh
Well at lest is a diffrent excuse than they used to use...they after ISK and easy kills, if you hire mercs they will jump corp (while complaining you did so) etc.
They will most likly have a back up corp to jump to already just incase...
Good luck and I hope you kick their ass from one side space to the other.
They like ALT spies as well so be on the look out for recent corp mbrs...
They been doing this for damm near a year as far as i can tell...
/me waves
reminds me of last year......
Tbh there just playing the game the way they want to it is a pvp game after all
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.13 13:50:00 -
[72]
Originally by: monkeyking1
Originally by: DanMck
Originally by: monkeyking1
Originally by: nahtoh
Well at lest is a diffrent excuse than they used to use...they after ISK and easy kills, if you hire mercs they will jump corp (while complaining you did so) etc.
They will most likly have a back up corp to jump to already just incase...
Good luck and I hope you kick their ass from one side space to the other.
They like ALT spies as well so be on the look out for recent corp mbrs...
They been doing this for damm near a year as far as i can tell...
/me waves
reminds me of last year......
Tbh there just playing the game the way they want to it is a pvp game after all
This sound familour? "whaa you hired mercs...no fair!!!!!"
They can play the game how they like, but the perception they are a bunch of lamers picking on new corps seems to be pretty wide spread even within the pure PvP crowd in this thread...
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Zatire
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:14:00 -
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Not the first time I heard of them and after what they did to a friends corp we ravens would love to get a bite out of them aswell if you need help.
Give me a call if they crawl out from whatever hole they hidding in
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monkeyking1
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zatire
Not the first time I heard of them and after what they did to a friends corp we ravens would love to get a bite out of them aswell if you need help.
Give me a call if they crawl out from whatever hole they hidding in
convo them and ask them to come out from tehre hole for u
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Elliott Manchild
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:22:00 -
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lol Grandfather still owes me 3isk!
And they just play the game how they want to they are pirates after all
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:42:00 -
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Sounds like you have found what the game really is about.
Tracking disrupters and ecm can work wonders for you and if you want those pods a frigate with a 20km scram and two sensor boosters will do the trick.
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Brem Watson
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:44:00 -
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So I'm leaving out of a base in Hageken and I see a sizeable amount of ships outside. A couple of minutes later, all hell brroke loose so I decided to watch.
Someone in a Raven got pounded to kingdow come. Acrocorp were the victors.
To the OP, never run man. I've been in a few wars (too early in my Eve career). You created your corp to exist and you'll need to defend it. Even if your corp is no big on fighting, there has to be some protectors in the group. That's just the way it has to be.
Kudos to the guys helping Acrocorp out.
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monkeyking1
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Elliott Manchild
lol Grandfather still owes me 3isk!
And they just play the game how they want to they are pirates after all
i loves u
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lab alt3
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Posted - 2006.04.13 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: monkeyking1
Originally by: DanMck
Originally by: monkeyking1
Originally by: nahtoh
Well at lest is a diffrent excuse than they used to use...they after ISK and easy kills, if you hire mercs they will jump corp (while complaining you did so) etc.
They will most likly have a back up corp to jump to already just incase...
Good luck and I hope you kick their ass from one side space to the other.
They like ALT spies as well so be on the look out for recent corp mbrs...
They been doing this for damm near a year as far as i can tell...
/me waves
reminds me of last year......
Tbh there just playing the game the way they want to it is a pvp game after all
This sound familour? "whaa you hired mercs...no fair!!!!!"
They can play the game how they like, but the perception they are a bunch of lamers picking on new corps seems to be pretty wide spread even within the pure PvP crowd in this thread...
/me waves to dan and nahtoh
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badgerken
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Posted - 2006.04.13 18:34:00 -
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above char me hehe
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Ardent Rellik
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Posted - 2006.04.13 18:41:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Brem Watson
Edited by: Brem Watson on 13/04/2006 17:46:39
So I'm leaving out of a base in Hageken and I see a sizeable amount of ships outside. A couple of minutes later, all hell brroke loose so I decided to watch.
Someone in a Raven got pounded to kingdom come. Acrocorp were the victors!
To the OP, never run man. I've been in a few wars (too early in my Eve career). You created your corp to exist and you'll need to defend it. Even if your corp is no big on fighting, there has to be some protectors in the group. That's just the way it has to be.
Kudos to the guys helping Acrocorp out.
I am glad Acrocorp is enjoying themselves. Please pound them some more & collect little biomass when you can. I am watching the unfolding events with great fascination.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.04.13 21:34:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Brem Watson
Edited by: Brem Watson on 13/04/2006 17:46:39
So I'm leaving out of a base in Hageken and I see a sizeable amount of ships outside. A couple of minutes later, all hell brroke loose so I decided to watch.
Someone in a Raven got pounded to kingdom come. Acrocorp were the victors!
To the OP, never run man. I've been in a few wars (too early in my Eve career). You created your corp to exist and you'll need to defend it. Even if your corp is no big on fighting, there has to be some protectors in the group. That's just the way it has to be.
Kudos to the guys helping Acrocorp out.
Yeah, things are going much better. It has been nice to go on the offense and stop playing frigate wars.
It seems that the people that stuck around and didn't leave the corp after the first slaughter have grown closer together and are working a lot better as a group. Another good thing is we have met new people that unfortunatly I don't think we would have met under normal conditions.
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Brem Watson
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Posted - 2006.04.14 01:55:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Steve McHorn
Originally by: Brem Watson
Edited by: Brem Watson on 13/04/2006 17:46:39
So I'm leaving out of a base in Hageken and I see a sizeable amount of ships outside. A couple of minutes later, all hell brroke loose so I decided to watch.
Someone in a Raven got pounded to kingdom come. Acrocorp were the victors!
To the OP, never run man. I've been in a few wars (too early in my Eve career). You created your corp to exist and you'll need to defend it. Even if your corp is no big on fighting, there has to be some protectors in the group. That's just the way it has to be.
Kudos to the guys helping Acrocorp out.
Yeah, things are going much better. It has been nice to go on the offense and stop playing frigate wars.
It seems that the people that stuck around and didn't leave the corp after the first slaughter have grown closer together and are working a lot better as a group. Another good thing is we have met new people that unfortunatly I don't think we would have met under normal conditions.
The thing to remember is that you win some and you'll lose some but never give up your corp so people will leave you alone. Sometimes you just have to bring it to 'em.
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monkeyking1
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Posted - 2006.04.14 09:09:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Steve McHorn
Originally by: Brem Watson
Edited by: Brem Watson on 13/04/2006 17:46:39
So I'm leaving out of a base in Hageken and I see a sizeable amount of ships outside. A couple of minutes later, all hell brroke loose so I decided to watch.
Someone in a Raven got pounded to kingdom come. Acrocorp were the victors!
To the OP, never run man. I've been in a few wars (too early in my Eve career). You created your corp to exist and you'll need to defend it. Even if your corp is no big on fighting, there has to be some protectors in the group. That's just the way it has to be.
Kudos to the guys helping Acrocorp out.
Yeah, things are going much better. It has been nice to go on the offense and stop playing frigate wars.
It seems that the people that stuck around and didn't leave the corp after the first slaughter have grown closer together and are working a lot better as a group. Another good thing is we have met new people that unfortunatly I don't think we would have met under normal conditions.
Sounds like good fun its also a way to find out wat members will help out
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.04.14 10:26:00 -
[85]
Originally by: badgerken
Edited by: badgerken on 13/04/2006 18:36:26
above char me hehe
OMG just noticed nathoh still cant see a brick wall nvm the pvps who arnt invovled cept maybe guy (cant remember name) who gave isk even the corp that has been dec'd seems to be having fun so u could think of it in a difrent perspective they are brining new corps fun 
I not gonns disscuss anicent history with your or MK, lets just say we disagree how things went down and not disrail the thread...
To the OPs corp...hurt em some more
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monkeyking1
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Posted - 2006.04.14 10:44:00 -
[86]
Originally by: nahtoh
Originally by: badgerken
Edited by: badgerken on 13/04/2006 18:36:26
above char me hehe
OMG just noticed nathoh still cant see a brick wall nvm the pvps who arnt invovled cept maybe guy (cant remember name) who gave isk even the corp that has been dec'd seems to be having fun so u could think of it in a difrent perspective they are brining new corps fun
I not gonns disscuss anicent history with your or MK, lets just say we disagree how things went down and not disrail the thread...
To the OPs corp...hurt em some more
hey m8 history is history
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DanMck
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:04:00 -
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Edited by: DanMck on 14/04/2006 11:04:34
derailing not finished
rionnag alba ftw
hey ken 
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monkeyking1
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Posted - 2006.04.14 11:41:00 -
[88]
Originally by: DanMck
Edited by: DanMck on 14/04/2006 11:04:34
derailing not finished
rionnag alba ftw
hey ken
omg u dont even say hi to me 
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Viper69
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Posted - 2006.06.01 19:39:00 -
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The Chuckys will get bored and move on. Disbanding your corp is not a good idea. Wars will always come and go in any corp you have. Thats just the game.
Our corps have 2 options.... Go else where to mine and trade in relative peace ... OR fight together. Alone we are easy prey against a vet corp like the Chuckys...and they know it.
ViperCorp
CEO
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Viper69
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Posted - 2006.06.01 19:41:00 -
[90]
The Chuckys will get bored and move on. Disbanding your corp is not a good idea. Wars will always come and go in any corp you have. Thats just the game.
Our corps have 2 options.... Go else where to mine and trade in relative peace ... OR fight together. Alone we are easy prey against a vet corp like the Chuckys...and they know it.
ViperCorp
CEO
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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.06.01 19:51:00 -
[91]
pulling one from the grave eh? Good Luck in this past fight... Chuskies once dec'd Universal Corp... while we lived in Derelik... That was a fun fight... sadly concord found that the war didn't meet some terms and well... I guess we finished it didn't we?
-Nate
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Svetlana Scarlet
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Posted - 2006.06.01 21:02:00 -
[92]
Since it sounds like you are in Caldari space, if you want help and are at all interested in getting into the roleplaying scene, you may want to talk to the Kimotoro Directive; we've had experience with these sorts of jokers before, and we're always interested in hearing from new RP corps. Good luck -- it sounds like you've found out they aren't as scary as they sounded at first. A quote from the Monarch sounds appropriate here, but unfortunately it would get censored. :)
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Chief of Diplomatic Staff
Captain, CNS Shield of Larani
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |
Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.06.02 00:56:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet
A quote from the Monarch sounds appropriate here, but unfortunately it would get censored. :)
I'll get you Brock Sampson?
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.06.02 05:41:00 -
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On behalf of Purify I would like to offer you our full moral support in your efforts to do away with these vermin. If there is anything more we can do to help we will.
"I believe that there will ultimately be a clash between the oppressed and those that do the oppressing. I believe that there will be a clash between those who want freedom, justice and equality for everyone and those who want to continue the systems of exploitation."
Malcolm X.
I make cool banners for ISK.
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Steve McHorn
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Posted - 2006.06.02 17:10:00 -
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thanks everyone. It's been a while since I have last updated this tread but we have another thread going here for the ones that care or are interested. Seems this problem is bigger than we thought.
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Ivan Kirilenkov
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Posted - 2006.06.02 17:36:00 -
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Please do not dig up old threads when there's allready another thread on the same topic on the front-page.
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