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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:04:00 -
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*EC-P8R witnesses the largest fleet battles in Eve, and the fastest most effective use of dreads yet, to take out TRUST's capital production line, which has been selling to G/Iron *Atuk disbands[Eve politics loses Noob Scriptor], 60% of their members join BoB as Destructive Influences *Iron kicks all but 3 membercorps and leaves 0.0 *BoB sets all their friends hostile *G disbands
Naming suggestions + analysis only in this thread, no alts plz.
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:06:00 -
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Oh, and who do you think will fill the power vacuum in the northwest? Contribute to the Eve Wiki |
Emno
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:06:00 -
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lots of shooty + fun soon?
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Daiashi
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:07:00 -
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From the BoB comments it already has a name -'Phase 4' ________________________________________________
The most daring pilot in the Galaxy ~ I FLY NUDE |
Scalor Valentis
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:08:00 -
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F.U.B.A.R. fits just nice here i think ^__^
[23] Member: BoB Alt whoe
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:09:00 -
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begun the forum war has?
- Gob
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Ather Ialeas
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vishnej Oh, and who do you think will fill the power vacuum in the northwest?
I'm not feeling any vacuums in here...
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Daiashi From the BoB comments it already has a name -'Phase 4'
Phase 4 involves only two of the above directly. Contribute to the Eve Wiki |
Ziyi Zhang
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:14:00 -
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The "everyone says, screw it we cant beat BoB at their own game and it isnt even fun to try, lets go run missions in empire and wait for Lord of the Rings Online to get released" phase?
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BadManEdmundo
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:15:00 -
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Some people call it the beggining of the end, some people call it the end of the begging.
I like to think of it, it's been great, I hope it gets better. ___________________ Stain- Alliance, It's an Alliance Jim, but not as we know it |
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:16:00 -
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"Naming suggestions"
First reaction was "The Clusterfsck of 2006"...
... but then again it's not even mid year, yet. :s
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Mr Fubar
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis F.U.B.A.R. fits just nice here i think ^__^
damn you've found me out
F.U.B.A.R. Alliance coming soon(tm) by: <<< me !!!
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:22:00 -
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Name suggestion: "a molle"? j/k :)
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EL TITAN
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Vishnej *EC-P8R witnesses the largest fleet battles in Eve, and the fastest most effective use of dreads yet, to take out TRUST's capital production line, which has been selling to G/Iron *Atuk disbands[Eve politics loses Noob Scriptor], 60% of their members join BoB as Destructive Influences *Iron kicks all but 3 membercorps and leaves 0.0 *BoB sets all their friends hostile *G disbands
Naming suggestions + analysis only in this thread, no alts plz.
Actually its more like 95% of the active ATUK members are in DICE/bob tbh ;o _________________________________________________ <3 hi |
Coasterbrian
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:35:00 -
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This is The Great Shakeup of 2006.
The Great Shakeup of 2004 was when PA (the first one) and CA pretty much ended up with the rest of eve at negative.
The Great Shakeup of 2005 was rather long, between when CA disbanded and XF died, fracturing the south/east. This could also be said to include when BoB left the north, ending the GNW. ----------
Originally by: riker to thebold first post w/ your main.
Soft and Crunchy 4tw! \o/ |
Omatje
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:38:00 -
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Let's call it Evequake 2006
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gizli
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:40:00 -
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Molle/Seleene/CYVOK do a press release saying they are the same man in rl and that they went to all the G CEO's rl homes and forced them to disband G.
Molle/seleene/cyvoks a.k.a Mr. Sir. Officer. Gustav Von Smith III is winning eve Signature file size to big, please keep all files in the rotation under 24000 bytes - Petwraith
my sig rotation aint too big, i just changed it >.< |
Equinox II
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: gizli Molle/Seleene/CYVOK .. *snip*
I thought Sel was blacklights alt? wtf? The conspiracy goes even further than I thought ;p
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Beringe
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:45:00 -
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And it only took a week or so...
...and it isn't over yet. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
Baun
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:52:00 -
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How about the great rebellion against boredom?
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Ishahn
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Posted - 2006.04.07 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Scalor Valentis F.U.B.A.R. fits just nice here i think ^__^
or maybe s.n.a.f.u
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Vily
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:02:00 -
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The seige of EC and the northwestern evacuation
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:03:00 -
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I call this the "2006 surprise"
...like wtf. North has just become a melting pot, BoB has been unleashed in EVE and ATUK decided to go BoB.
I saw more action this week than in 6 months, and tbh I can't say what's going to happen next. ----------------
Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
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Culmen
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:08:00 -
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it shall be called the pre-titan era --------------------- Nerd 1: You like my Thorax? Do you want my Thorax? Tell me where you want my Thorax. Nerd 2: Yes, god yes, your Thorax is so gorgeous, stick it right into my Rifter, oh yeah |
Mr Fubar
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ishahn
Originally by: Scalor Valentis F.U.B.A.R. fits just nice here i think ^__^
or maybe s.n.a.f.u
no i dont have an alt named Mr. Snafu so its gotta be F.U.B.A.R.
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:52:00 -
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As has been suggested elsewhere, it could just be everyone taking stock of the consequences of the EC megablob and deciding that carrying on down this road is just not going to be fun. On this model, a lot of alliances become "roving", making their cash when and where they can, ignoring the problems of holding territory and getting their fights thick and fast wherever they feel like it. If this is the way things go, however, it will very likely cycle back, and in six months or a year we'll have a new crop of alliances staking out their claims and engaging in high and low politics, but with much-increased capital ship counts, better strategies against them and a more balanced playing field.
As it is and especially now that it has subsumed ATUK, BoB has basically won the current arms race - the race to overwhelming numbers of capital ships - by industrial effort and blobbing up, and the apparent losers may well be effectively cedeing victory of this round and moving to a new paradigm in which having twenty dreads simply isn't relevant. This will remain the status quo probably for as long as one force (ie BoB) retains an overwhelming capital advantage - and while this status quo remains, that capital advantage will be effectively useless.
What may result from this possible scenario is a stagnation of capital ship production, especially by BoB, as every time they increase their fleet size they make it less likely that they will ever see decisive combat and justify their investment. If this stagnation happens, and if then new fledgling powers decide they want to fight in the old ways again and start preparing in secret, the balance could be shifted quickly to the point where there are multiple alliances which can field EC-sized capital fleets. If new groups manage to steal a march on BoB in this way, and can again compete on equal terms, proper territoral conquest becomes viable again.
However, it will be POS wars in a very different manner. The effort needed to run POS will likely not change, but with large fleets of dreadnaughts it will be much easier to destroy them. Currently, POS wars are something of a grind, with POS being attacked individually by dread assaults and being fairly significant actions individual actions. The ****ing around in D7 has illustrated this nicely - five alliances on two sides duking it out, with to my knowledge two POS destroyed in the system in like a fortnight of fighting. With EC-class dread fleets on all sides, it will be much easier to knock over individual POS unopposed, to the point where you could reinforce normal-sized systems in a day and finish them off the day after. However, with large capital fleets on both sides, it will also be easier to mount defences in specific locations, by counter-deploying dreadnaughts. This will, I would hope, lead to a more dynamic POS war, with the focus coming back from the POS themselves to the enemy fleet. The defender at a POS always has a firepower advantage from the station defences, and if you can deploy an equal number of dreadnaughts, you should be able to fight the attackers off. This should put the fleet back on top as the major deciding factor, with wars turning not on POS grinds but on decisive fleet actions, usually with significant capital presence on both sides and often being full-on engagements between opposing capital fleets, with dread-on-dread combat determining the outcome of the war - the loser gets smashed, and the winner steamrolls on through all the hostile POS.
Of course, BoB could probably prevent all this from happening and curtail POS actions indefinitely by simply maintaining their current lead and cranking out more capital ships. I don't think this would be good for the game in the long run; thankfully, judging by their latest announcement I think they'll probably realise this and let events take their course. Here's hoping...
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Dr Smacktalk
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Posted - 2006.04.07 23:59:00 -
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BoBs goal as posted a few months ago was to own all of 0.0 in EvE.
Now the question is who is the next alliance to go down.
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Robet Katrix
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:22:00 -
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I officially decalare that this period shall be called the great breaking.
and possibly depnding on the next few weeks the great reformation
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MessiahOfLight
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Posted - 2006.04.08 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Joerd Toastius ... status quo probably for as long as one force (ie BoB) retains an overwhelming capital advantage - and while this status quo remains, that capital advantage will be effectively useless.
What may result from this possible scenario is a stagnation of capital ship production, especially by BoB, as every time they increase their fleet size they make it less likely that they will ever see decisive combat and justify their investment. If this stagnation happens, and if then new fledgling powers decide they want to fight in the old ways again and start preparing in secret, the balance could be shifted quickly to the point where there are multiple alliances which can field EC-sized capital fleets. If new groups manage to steal a march on BoB in this way, and can again compete on equal terms, proper territoral conquest becomes viable again...
... Of course, BoB could probably prevent all this from happening and curtail POS actions indefinitely by simply maintaining their current lead and cranking out more capital ships. I don't think this would be good for the game in the long run; thankfully, judging by their latest announcement I think they'll probably realise this and let events take their course. Here's hoping...
I seriuosly doubt, that BOB will slow down the Capital Ship/T2 stuff Production considerable, even in the near future. And although BOB might decide to fight on the other alliances terms, in order to get some fun out of them, doesnt mean that we will not considering to turn the wars onto our terms again if we need to.
I seriously hope that the other Alliances out there, and the future ones will come to see, that Eve is not only about fighting with weapons. We use our Industrial force to fight too, and i seriously doubt, that anyone else will beat us, if they stop building POSes and Cap ships and whatever. Cause if this continues, there will come a time when we have hundreds of capital ships, Trillions of isks, and a production capability bar none. Then truly Eve will be dominated by BOB. Not because we were so good, but because the others were too lazy. And therefore having ruined their game themselves. Noone can possibly blame uf for playing the game how its meant to be played.
[Anything i said here, is MY personal Opinion, and does NOT represent my Corp or Alliance]
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HatePeace LoveWar
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Posted - 2006.04.08 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: EL TITAN
Originally by: Vishnej *EC-P8R witnesses the largest fleet battles in Eve, and the fastest most effective use of dreads yet, to take out TRUST's capital production line, which has been selling to G/Iron *Atuk disbands[Eve politics loses Noob Scriptor], 60% of their members join BoB as Destructive Influences *Iron kicks all but 3 membercorps and leaves 0.0 *BoB sets all their friends hostile *G disbands
Naming suggestions + analysis only in this thread, no alts plz.
Actually its more like 95% of the active ATUK members are in DICE/bob tbh ;o
Was gonna say, my ass aint fat enough to account for 40% of ATUK. Although perhaps he was talking about my wtfleetskills that account for 99.99% of atuks efficencey, yes u know its true tit!
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