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Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:23:00 -
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So tell me about the n0mex deal. I know they left on their own and there was no drama. However, I heard something about how they weren't paid for ops or soemthing to that effect. No trolling please |
Senn Denroth
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
170
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:32:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:come to lowsec, you have our address, ring the door bell see what happens.
You'll get bent over like last time we saw you in lowsec?
http://killalliance.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17871
Thing I feel sorry for is the tainted names all of the younger SYJ players are getting from this whole ordeal. They don't have a chance of making it in to a decent alliance for a while now because their leadership and loyalist players are digging holes all the way to the earths core. |
Ion Udan
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
15
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:32:00 -
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Seraph, stop, just stop ok.
Let me address some of the points you made.
The people involved in this Op didnt spout how they were TAKING DOWN SYJ in this thread as you say, so stop trying to counter these "claims" as it just makes you seem like you're trying to save face.
As you and others say some of SYJ have moved out of wormholes, we aren't discounting that, have fun in low sec and enjoy the station games. This doesnt change the fact that this Op achieved what we wanted, seeding caps, getting kills, and burning SYJ's wormhole to the ground.
You said previously "You know where we are in low sec so come get a fight". You're talking to wormholers, we live in wormholes and get fights in wormholes. Sure roams out to K space occur but the sheer fact that you're trying to "get a fight in low sec" shows how little you understand.
You said "No one left their corpmates/alliance to get steamrolled" Contrary to what you think here, what effort did SYJ make to help their bro's out? With an alliance of your size surely you could've rage rolled to get connected to either try and extract your corp mates assets. The sheer fact you didnt help them shows you abandoned them.
You said "We just brought in a tech1 fleet for lulz, we never stood a chance". Bringing in BNI saved you some face, and made us love BNI more. SYJ had caps in system, I know this for a fact as many logged off in them. Archons, Chims, Rev's, Moros, Nags. So dont try to claim you never stood a chance. You had assets in system which could've made a difference.
So your attempts to try and redirect and blur what's going on should stop. The facts remain the same. |
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
40
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:38:00 -
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Ion Udan wrote:SYJ had caps in system, I know this for a fact as many logged off in them. Archons, Chims, Rev's, Moros, Nags.
Those would be Aussies (middle of their work day during the fight) and perhaps a few Euros (5am).
There wasn't even a cta mail sent out last night. I was just heading to bed when it started, there was one message in comms about a fleet, that's how big a deal it wasn't. |
Ion Udan
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
15
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Posted - 2014.02.13 00:45:00 -
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MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:Ion Udan wrote:SYJ had caps in system, I know this for a fact as many logged off in them. Archons, Chims, Rev's, Moros, Nags. Those would be Aussies (middle of their work day during the fight) and perhaps a few Euros (5am). There wasn't even a cta mail sent out last night. I was just heading to bed when it started, there was one message in comms about a fleet, that's how big a deal it wasn't.
Your post proves my point, thank you. |
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
40
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:00:00 -
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Ion Udan wrote: Your post proves my point, thank you.
Your point which I was replying to was that those caps "could have made the difference". No, they couldn't, because pretty much none play at the time of day.
To make things a bit clearer: you didn't invade SYJ's home :-) You invaded the home of 3 corps, with perhaps 15 active players total. The rest of us have literally nothing in there, and never had any intent to come back. |
Hidden Fremen
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
309
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:11:00 -
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Unsubscribing... I don't always post in >Wormholes>, but when I do, I immediately regret it because the thread is so sh*t... |
Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
214
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:17:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:So tell me about the n0mex deal. I know they left on their own and there was no drama. However, I heard something about how they weren't paid for ops or soemthing to that effect.
Nice. One of those "do you still beat your wife" questions. The issue with n0mex was that they weren't honest about another alliance member's assets. Kept giving different stories so Pell thought it would be better if they left. Haven't heard anything about them "not getting paid for ops." If that's just their propaganda guys spinning, or you know, perhaps you being full of crap, I don't know. But I don't know anything about that.
Senn Denroth wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:come to lowsec, you have our address, ring the door bell see what happens. You'll get bent over like last time we saw you in lowsec? http://killalliance.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17871Thing I feel sorry for is the tainted names all of the younger SYJ players are getting from this whole ordeal. They don't have a chance of making it in to a decent alliance for a while now because their leadership and loyalist players are digging holes all the way to the earths core.
"No valid kill id specified"
Ion Udan wrote:Seraph, stop, just stop ok.
Let me address some of the points you made.
The people involved in this Op didnt spout how they were TAKING DOWN SYJ in this thread as you say, so stop trying to counter these "claims" as it just makes you seem like you're trying to save face.
As you and others say some of SYJ have moved out of wormholes, we aren't discounting that, have fun in low sec and enjoy the station games. This doesnt change the fact that this Op achieved what we wanted, seeding caps, getting kills, and burning SYJ's wormhole to the ground.
You said previously "You know where we are in low sec so come get a fight". You're talking to wormholers, we live in wormholes and get fights in wormholes. Sure roams out to K space occur but the sheer fact that you're trying to "get a fight in low sec" shows how little you understand.
You said "No one left their corpmates/alliance to get steamrolled" Contrary to what you think here, what effort did SYJ make to help their bro's out? With an alliance of your size surely you could've rage rolled to get connected to either try and extract your corp mates assets. The sheer fact you didnt help them shows you abandoned them.
You said "We just brought in a tech1 fleet for lulz, we never stood a chance". Bringing in BNI saved you some face, and made us love BNI more. SYJ had caps in system, I know this for a fact as many logged off in them. Archons, Chims, Rev's, Moros, Nags. So dont try to claim you never stood a chance. You had assets in system which could've made a difference.
So your attempts to try and redirect and blur what's going on should stop. The facts remain the same.
There's nothing to "save face to." Just telling you that you killed some abandoned towers in a wormhole most of us haven't been using for a few months. Why is that a hard concept for you to comprehend? But by all means, dress it up as much as you want. Just don't get upset when people like me point out what you're doing.
Nobody abandoned the people that remained. They didn't want to come along. If I get out of a bus, and said bus drives into a ditch, did I abandon those people? No. You're still trying to "find fault" with SYJ somehow, either they are "bad" because Pell is "bad" or we're "bad" because we "abandoned our alliance mates" or whatever non sense. Clearly you're the one with the problem here.
As Monkey pointed out, said caps were in AU/EU TZ so not a viable option. BNI was brought "for the lulz" as was our unmention worthy "defense" fleet which began like "oh hey what if we went to Bastion just to see what we can kill guys?" I'm sure the night was extremely important for you guys and you'll remember it as some grand invasion of the "w-space BoB" as some of you put it last night. |
Tyrant Scorn
21
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:19:00 -
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Interview with Pell Helix can be found: http://www.legacyofacapsuleer.com/mp3/LOAC_ep_01.mp3
Interview with Axloth Okiah to give the invaders perspective will be released tomorrow hopefully... ...
-á |
Ion Udan
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
15
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:21:00 -
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MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:Ion Udan wrote: Your post proves my point, thank you.
Your point which I was replying to was that those caps "could have made the difference". No, they couldn't, because pretty much none play at that time of day. To make things a bit clearer: you didn't invade SYJ's home. It hasn't been that for a long time. You invaded the home of 3 corps, with perhaps 15 active players total. The rest of us have literally nothing in there, and never had any intent to come back.
Are you that one dimensional that you cannot shift a fleet time around to when heavier assets are available?
Read my post again, i said "we invaded SYJ's WORMHOLE!"
Your failure to comprehend is astounding. |
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Seraph IX Basarab
Hades Effect Surely You're Joking
214
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:23:00 -
[131] - Quote
Ion Udan wrote:MonkeyMagic Thiesant wrote:Ion Udan wrote: Your post proves my point, thank you.
Your point which I was replying to was that those caps "could have made the difference". No, they couldn't, because pretty much none play at that time of day. To make things a bit clearer: you didn't invade SYJ's home. It hasn't been that for a long time. You invaded the home of 3 corps, with perhaps 15 active players total. The rest of us have literally nothing in there, and never had any intent to come back. Are you that one dimensional that you cannot shift a fleet time around to when heavier assets are available? Read my post again, i said "we invaded SYJ's WORMHOLE!" Your failure to comprehend is astounding.
Are you that one dimensional that you cannot understand we don't care about the C6? |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
941
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:29:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Bane Nucleus wrote:So tell me about the n0mex deal. I know they left on their own and there was no drama. However, I heard something about how they weren't paid for ops or soemthing to that effect. Nice. One of those "do you still beat your wife" questions. The issue with n0mex was that they weren't honest about another alliance member's assets. Kept giving different stories so Pell thought it would be better if they left. Haven't heard anything about them "not getting paid for ops." If that's just their propaganda guys spinning, or you know, perhaps you being full of crap, I don't know. But I don't know anything about that.
Just by that response alone it shows that I am not full of crap, so that was easy to clear up.
Secondly, thank you for sharing what you could about this story. No trolling please |
MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
42
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:34:00 -
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Ion Udan wrote: Are you that one dimensional that you cannot shift a fleet time around to when heavier assets are available?
For something that matters, I'm sure we could. This didn't, so we didn't.
And again, it's not SYJ's wormhole, it was the private wormhole of 3 small corps. SYJ as an alliance had left. |
ROSSLINDEN0
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
196
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:47:00 -
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If your going to interview someone its probably best not to be a fanboi |
Tyrant Scorn
21
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:49:00 -
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ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:If your going to interview someone its probably best not to be a fanboi
Yeah, never met the guy before yesterday. He seems to have a few opinions I share... FANBOI INC OMG WTF!!
PS: Listen to the whole thing before you start screaming... ...
-á |
ROSSLINDEN0
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
196
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:55:00 -
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Tyrant Scorn wrote:ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:If your going to interview someone its probably best not to be a fanboi Yeah, never met the guy before yesterday. He seems to have a few opinions I share... FANBOI INC OMG WTF!! PS: Listen to the whole thing before you start screaming...
im 17 minutes in and it sounds like hes getting you wet but ok ill listen to the full thing before i make my final opinion |
Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
308
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:10:00 -
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I'm 34 minutes in and you could drown a toddler in my panties. |
Senn Denroth
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
170
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:47:00 -
[138] - Quote
Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Senn Denroth wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:come to lowsec, you have our address, ring the door bell see what happens. You'll get bent over like last time we saw you in lowsec? http://killalliance.co.uk/kb/?a=kill_related&kll_id=17871Thing I feel sorry for is the tainted names all of the younger SYJ players are getting from this whole ordeal. They don't have a chance of making it in to a decent alliance for a while now because their leadership and loyalist players are digging holes all the way to the earths core. "No valid kill id specified"
If you notice that the eve forums are changing a link when it redirects you, try copy/pasting it in your browser if you can manage it. |
ROSSLINDEN0
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
199
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Posted - 2014.02.13 02:59:00 -
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ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:Tyrant Scorn wrote:ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:If your going to interview someone its probably best not to be a fanboi Yeah, never met the guy before yesterday. He seems to have a few opinions I share... FANBOI INC OMG WTF!! PS: Listen to the whole thing before you start screaming... im 17 minutes in and it sounds like hes getting you wet but ok ill listen to the full thing before i make my final opinion
Ok so listened to all of it... im afraid im going to have to be undecided on the fanboi status as im not sure if the dribbling is your man crush on pell or your mental/physical disorder but what i am sure of is how shite that was and how much of my life i wasted.
And as for pells comments on how we'd have made so much isk if we done this 9 months ago well we had no reason to do it 9 months ago and im sure we would have still managed it back then as your ******** if you start the invasion without enough seeded cap and available pilots to finish the job, also how is the moon isk these days? we're thinking about taking our first r64 soon and we heard there's one in a region near you. |
Tyrant Scorn
21
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Posted - 2014.02.13 03:02:00 -
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ROSSLINDEN0 wrote:but what i am sure of is how shite that was and how much of my life i wasted.
I am sorry but I do not reimburse lost time...
...
-á |
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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
872
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Posted - 2014.02.13 04:05:00 -
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This has literally been the hardest podcast to finish. ever. Wormhole Minister of High Society Superior General | Order of Rob Minor @autoritare | The Diogenes Club |
Gnaw LF
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
615
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Posted - 2014.02.13 04:30:00 -
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Why bother, he and his alliance are small fry in low sec and a non-entity in w-space. At this point I'd be more interested in hearing from CEO of Marmite Collective. |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
872
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Posted - 2014.02.13 04:38:00 -
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Gnaw LF wrote:Why bother, he and his alliance are small fry in low sec and a non-entity in w-space. At this point I'd be more interested in hearing from CEO of Marmite Collective.
Actually a Crossfire episode between Pell and Bane would be fun. Wormhole Minister of High Society Superior General | Order of Rob Minor @autoritare | The Diogenes Club |
Tyrant Scorn
21
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Posted - 2014.02.13 05:29:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:Actually a Crossfire episode between Pell and Bane would be fun.
Bane didn't respond to my mail, so too bad for him, I gave him the chance but he didn't take it. ...
-á |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
941
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Posted - 2014.02.13 06:02:00 -
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I didn't feel the need to do it. It was not my op. I do however apologize for not responding to your mail. No trolling please |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
872
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Posted - 2014.02.13 06:05:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:I didn't feel the need to do it. It was not my op. I do however apologize for not responding to your mail.
It's your fault we had to listen to a garbage podcast, Bane. Apology accepted. Wormhole Minister of High Society Superior General | Order of Rob Minor @autoritare | The Diogenes Club |
Tyrant Scorn
21
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Posted - 2014.02.13 06:06:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:I do however apologize for not responding to your mail.
Thanks, you're welcome to come and chat about other very exciting stuff in a future episode...
...
-á |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Red Coat Conspiracy
872
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Posted - 2014.02.13 06:31:00 -
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Tyrant Scorn wrote:There are other ways of giving constructive criticism and actually forwarding idea's and suggestions to make sure next episode will be better...
Since you do care, I'll tell you how to start fixing your podcast:
1. Buy a mic. 2. Tone your opening music down when you start talking. 3. Structure your timeline so your guest doesn't just chest thump and ramble about having half a trillion in a wormhole, which sounds ridiculously unlikely and also stupid. Also, Pell, you didn't replace Narwhals. 4. Don't record a podcast around one guest, unless it's a legit interview, which should be objective, which this was not. 5. If you are going to focus on one guest, don't suck his d***, unless you want to sound like propaganda.
There's a start. Wormhole Minister of High Society Superior General | Order of Rob Minor @autoritare | The Diogenes Club |
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Surely You're Joking
65
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Posted - 2014.02.13 08:29:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote: More nonsense and propaganda
Since you keep on insisting posting this garbage and Pell calls us 2nd class citizen on podcast I'll do what I normally do not do and reply to this.
You, Seraph (yes you personally), is an example of whats wrong with entire SYJ. Everyone not contributing to your personal aim is garbage to you. Several times we have come out to aid on your lousy tower timers in lowsec but when we need aid you dont care. When theres a "paid" op defending some c3 you show with a 80 man fleet. But when its about aiding alliance members you dont even bother to ask said alliance members for a way in. Nor did you bother to ask how many caps we got in there. Or talk to allies for aid. Or even talk to us about coordinating any kind of defense. You just didnt care. The fleet you brought wasnt to save us. That was to save Pell's ego. If it wasnt you would have at least talked to the ceo's of the corps in the wh about a time we could peak our fleet.
I literally pitty the few euros who are staying with you because you have a few decent pilots. I hope they never get to deal with the crappy leadership and I regret the day we joined you guys. Not because of the invasion. We can recover from that. But for wasting months ingame trying to get some kind of communication going across timezones. I hope PL realise the error in supporting you guys and just leave you to your own failure.
And no, I havent ever seen any pay from alliance merc ops. And no, you will never see your loan to Pell for his titan repayed. And yes the mythical srp will continue to be 6 months late.
To everyone else: SYJ has no presence in WH space at all anymore. Nothing. And if you didnt understand it; yes we are dropping the stupid alliance. We would do better by mining veldspar in a c1 |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
942
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Posted - 2014.02.13 08:38:00 -
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Quote:also some of our guys some time later when we already was disgruntled at pell this happens.... http://killboard.low-class.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20114he wasnt set to blue either to us or the alliance at the time of the kill. pel starts screaming like a infant with no toys that he was supposed to be blue and we will give the stuff back and repay him. we ofc didnt like the idea of giving away loot we gotten the right way in our eyes. after alot of threats from pell nash and the directors came to a conclusion of giving the remaining blueprints back to them but not pay them anything at all, that pell had to do as he hadnt set them to blue as he claims he did. needless to say we were saying **** you pell long before you guys started burning their hole. none of the grunts here ever liked being on ops with his crew either. just wanted to clear it up abit so you get the whole picture and i didnt want to post on the thread. if you use this pls dont use my name in there as nash would get cranky. thnx m8 /not tim
Interesting No trolling please |
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